Will Dean lose the Kook vote?

[corplinx]

Will the florida coup, haliburton, right wing corporate media, evil global corporations kooks leave Dean now that he has appeared on FoxNews? He was feeding the kook hunger with tangential tidbits at his rallies slamming Fox, now he has gone on FoxNews Sunday for an interview.

Has Dean become mainstream enough now where he doesn't need the vote of the rabid anti-bush types who think FoxNews is Karl Rove's Pravda?

[rdaneel]

Nah, us rabid anti-Shrub types applaud Dean for facing his evil media minions in their lair. :biggrin:

[corplinx]

Originally posted by rdaneel
Nah, us rabid anti-Shrub types applaud Dean for facing his evil media minions in their lair. :biggrin:

Good point, for them denial isn't just a river in Egypt.

[SRW]

Well I hear Nader is testing the waters for an other run, so I expect the kookiest of the kooks will jump off the Dean band wagon.

[DavidJames]

"Will Dean lose the Kook vote?"

Nah, I think they will vote for Bush just like last time ;)

[specious_reasons]

corplinx, you crack me up. Your question doesn't deserve a serious answer, so I'll give it one.

I think Dean is more concerned about who watches Fox than who produces it, as long as the producers aren't so rabidly Republican that they don't give him at least a chance to speak.

Fox News may be biased, but it's still gotta get ratings, and Howard Dean is a newsmaker.

[corplinx]

Originally posted by DavidJames
"Will Dean lose the Kook vote?"

Nah, I think they will vote for Bush just like last time ;)

They kooks on the other side had Buchanan to vote for. I haven't paid attention to what they are up too lately since the left wing kooks are more vocal right now.

Right wing kooks were much more vocal during Bush I's presidency so I'm not sure there is a pattern to discern.

[corplinx]

Originally posted by specious_reasons
corplinx, you crack me up. Your question doesn't deserve a serious answer, so I'll give it one.


Hey, you know Malachi151 woke up on Sunday morning, turned on Fox to take notes for his chapter of Answer, and fainted when he saw Howard Dean on there. :)

[Otther]

I don't know about the kooks, but as a centrist I'm really worried that Dean is going to get the nomination. I'd like to see bush out of office as anyone, but to me Dean isn't worth the price.

[Tony]

Originally posted by Otther
I don't know about the kooks, but as a centrist I'm really worried that Dean is going to get the nomination. I'd like to see bush out of office as anyone, but to me Dean isn't worth the price.

Weird. I wont consider voting for anyone but Bush unless Dean gets the nomination. If Dean gets the nomination, my vote is up in the air.

[Mike B.]

Originally posted by rdaneel
Nah, us rabid anti-Shrub types applaud Dean for facing his evil media minions in their lair. :biggrin:

Hey R,

Isn't that quote from the 1945 filim "The Woman in Green" starring Basil Rathbone as Sherlock Holmes and Henry Daniell as Moriarity?

[rdaneel]

The quote in my sig is from the original Sherlock Holmes story The Final Problem (http://www.geocities.com/fa1931/british/conandoy/final.html).
I imagine it's been used many times since.

[Frank Newgent]

Originally posted by Tony


Weird. I wont consider voting for anyone but Bush unless Dean gets the nomination. If Dean gets the nomination, my vote is up in the air.
I applaud you, Tony. It looks almost certain that it will be these two...

[HarryKeogh]

at the risk of sounding like a complete idiot and after googling for the reasons why, i have to ask...why is dean considered a kook?

[corplinx]

Originally posted by HarryKeogh
at the risk of sounding like a complete idiot and after googling for the reasons why, i have to ask...why is dean considered a kook?

noone in this thread accused him of being one........

I think he is a very smart and ambitious man who nailed the most rabidly anti-bush democrats (who happen to believe in haliburton conspiracies, a vast right wing conspiracy, and that foxnews is Pravda of the movement) early on as he was the only candidate vocally anti-bush.

Now he has picked up mainstream democrat support and is getting the votes of the union blocks and the minority cartels and no longer needs the kook votes.

He can go on FoxNews and run back to the center at this point and not worry about losing the nomination due to losing these voters who believe in weird things to cement their hatred.

Sorta reminds me of right wing marks who believed in all sorts of weird Clinton conspiracy stuff (mena airport, the "killing fields", etc). However, they didn't have a rabidly anti-Clinton candidate in 96 to vote for in republican primaries.

[Frank Newgent]

Originally posted by corplinx


noone in this thread accused him of being one........

I think he is a very smart and ambitious man who nailed the most rabidly anti-bush democrats (who happen to believe in haliburton conspiracies, a vast right wing conspiracy, and that foxnews is Pravda of the movement) early on as he was the only candidate vocally anti-bush.

Now he has picked up mainstream democrat support and is getting the votes of the union blocks and the minority cartels and no longer needs the kook votes.

He can go on FoxNews and run back to the center at this point and not worry about losing the nomination due to losing these voters who believe in weird things to cement their hatred.

Sorta reminds me of right wing marks who believed in all sorts of weird Clinton conspiracy stuff (mena airport, the "killing fields", etc). However, they didn't have a rabidly anti-Clinton candidate in 96 to vote for in republican primaries.
Or that he is simply a straight talker...

[corplinx]

Originally posted by Frank Newgent

Or that he is simply a straight talker...

Good one.

Everytime I hear a politician use the phrase "straight talker" I feel a phantom hand reach into my back pocket.

I usually find the straight talk dies when you ask simple questions like "how would you fix social security?" or "how would you fix medicare?". About then they smile real big and say "in a way that protects our seniors and makes sure the next generation of americans aren't blah blah blah."

The only true to life straight talker on the democrat ticket is probably Kucinich who says exactly what he thinks. Sure, he may believe in aliens or whatever but everytime I hear the guy you can tell he isn't holding back.

[Ignatius]

Originally posted by corplinx


Good one.

Everytime I hear a politician use the phrase "straight talker" I feel a phantom hand reach into my back pocket.

I usually find the straight talk dies when you ask simple questions like "how would you fix social security?" or "how would you fix medicare?". About then they smile real big and say "in a way that protects our seniors and makes sure the next generation of americans aren't blah blah blah."


Yeah, a similar phrase is that people want their politicians to ignore partisinship and just "get 'things' done". There seems to be a belief that we will have better government if politicians just get these undefined, elusive "things" done. Regardless of whether they believe in them or not.

[peptoabysmal]

Originally posted by HarryKeogh
at the risk of sounding like a complete idiot and after googling for the reasons why, i have to ask...why is dean considered a kook?

Here's a slanted, but funny, article that discusses that very topic:

His Indignant Majesty, Sir Howard Dean (http://www.americandaily.com/item/3819)

[Otther]

Until recently Dean was just a slightly more interesting face in the crowd of the Cat's potential canidates... The thing that really jolted me into disliking him was his interview on hardball, the that has him talking about wresting total control of our news from FoxNews.

[specious_reasons]

Originally posted by Otther
Until recently Dean was just a slightly more interesting face in the crowd of the Cat's potential canidates... The thing that really jolted me into disliking him was his interview on hardball, the that has him talking about wresting total control of our news from FoxNews.

Did you actually see the interview, or just hear the pundit's spin of it afterward?

[Regnad Kcin]

Originally posted by Otther
The thing that really jolted me into disliking [Dean] was his interview on hardball, the that has him talking about wresting total control of our news from FoxNews. He and Chris Matthews were joking around. (http://www.dailyhowler.com/dh120503.shtml)