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Undesired Walrus
24th July 2009, 08:47 AM
In the theme of the season, how many would it take?

I'd suggest (Just for starters):

1: Folk who knew with a great degree of accuracy what the surface looked like, so that if the Soviet's landed in the future and took pictures of something completely different they wouldn't humiliate the states.
2: Ultra-patriotic, but ultra-talented prop designers, capable of building vast swathes of
3: Scientists and engineers to fake thousands of facts of accurate scientific statements made by the moon walkers made their descent to the surface.

.......

UNLoVedRebel
24th July 2009, 12:51 PM
1) a lot

NGCHunter
24th July 2009, 01:26 PM
Someone who can build a gigantic vaccuum chamber large enough to drive around in a rover while simultaneously being flown in 1/6th gravity parabolic arcs inside a gigantic jet built by someone else to specifications the likes of which the world has never seen.

The Central Scrutinizer
24th July 2009, 01:42 PM
At least 100,000.

Dr. Lao
24th July 2009, 01:44 PM
Don Knotts.

Reluctant Astronaut or NWO Shill?

AbelovPes
24th July 2009, 02:38 PM
There is a very important rule when you are faking anything big - never try to do the same trick twice.
If faked, NASA would have to break this rule multiple times for almost no additional benefit as the first ML was also the most memorable and the next received only a mild nod from public or nothing at all. To this day many regular people simply thinks there was only one, the Armstrong moon landing.

So to fake moon landing you don't need many people in the loop. But to fake it repeatedly - that would be just too astronomicall!

JoeyDonuts
24th July 2009, 02:48 PM
Kurt Russell.

Just thinking
26th July 2009, 07:23 PM
At least 100,000 ...

... who could all keep the world's biggest secret for their entire lives!

MG1962
27th July 2009, 06:53 AM
It would also require the co-operation of the Soviet, Australia and Spanish governments

blue sock monkey
27th July 2009, 06:57 AM
Don't forget the caterers, gaffers, and best boy.

MG1962
27th July 2009, 07:02 AM
Oh and the company that makes Omega watches...they are still selling the fact their watch went to the Moon, and we all know advertising on TV is true ;)

timhau
27th July 2009, 10:55 AM
It would also require the co-operation of the Soviet, Australia and Spanish governments

Yes, and that includes a huge number of Soviet scientists, none of whom have come out to confess after the fall of the Soviet Union.

Sword_Of_Truth
27th July 2009, 04:45 PM
Someone who can build a gigantic vaccuum chamber large enough to drive around in a rover while simultaneously being flown in 1/6th gravity parabolic arcs inside a gigantic jet built by someone else to specifications the likes of which the world has never seen.

Seriously. There is just no bloody way to fake the footage of the dust coming off the wheels of the lunar rover and coming back down in perfect parabolic arcs without the suspension of a single mote.

steve s
28th July 2009, 09:50 PM
Seriously. There is just no bloody way to fake the footage of the dust coming off the wheels of the lunar rover and coming back down in perfect parabolic arcs without the suspension of a single mote.

I wish the Mythbusters had tackled that during their lunar episode. It would have been simple enough to do. Just get a pan full of that fake regolith they were using and rig up a pancake flipper to kick up a bunch of dust.

Steve S.

Just thinking
29th July 2009, 08:00 AM
Oh and the company that makes Omega watches...they are still selling the fact their watch went to the Moon, and we all know advertising on TV is true ;)

Billy Mays here, on the Moon, for the amazing Omega watch ...

Ocelot
29th July 2009, 08:30 AM
Seriously. There is just no bloody way to fake the footage of the dust coming off the wheels of the lunar rover and coming back down in perfect parabolic arcs without the suspension of a single mote.

I'd do it in CG these days.

In those days I'd do a smaller vacuum chamber - hanger sized. I'd film with a speeded up camera and use an optical printer and mattes to superimpose this on a landscape.

It wouldn't be very convincing but in low quality footage it might pass.

Of greater difficulty would be manufacturing a third of a metric ton of moon rock samples which gave radiometric dates of 4.5 billion years.

If manned missions are ruled out the easiest way of doing this would be to build robots to go to the moon and collect the samples.

asmodean
30th July 2009, 07:14 AM
In the theme of the season, how many would it take?

I'd suggest (Just for starters):

1: Folk who knew with a great degree of accuracy what the surface looked like, so that if the Soviet's landed in the future and took pictures of something completely different they wouldn't humiliate the states.
2: Ultra-patriotic, but ultra-talented prop designers, capable of building vast swathes of
3: Scientists and engineers to fake thousands of facts of accurate scientific statements made by the moon walkers made their descent to the surface.

.......

All the engineers and subcontractors used. They either have to be in on it, or getting fake orders but where to incompetent to realise the components they where asked for was not feasible to use in a moon landing project, OR they managed to make all the parts to specification at which point there would be no use for faking anything.

Rasmus
30th July 2009, 07:23 AM
If manned missions are ruled out the easiest way of doing this would be to build robots to go to the moon and collect the samples.

This is my favourite part:

To fake the moon landing, you would have to be so detailed and accurate in the fakery, that you could just easily do it for real.

Just like here:

It is already no problem to launch a man into space and return him safely. Now, on top of that, you have to land a probe on the moon, have it collect samples and safely return it to earth.

But if you can do all that you could just as easily fly a man to the moon and return him safely just like y ouwere going to pretend you did, anyway.

Ocelot
30th July 2009, 09:42 AM
But if you can do all that you could just as easily fly a man to the moon and return him safely just like y ouwere going to pretend you did, anyway.

No, you see there's the radiation in the Van Allen Belt. I'm not saying that it would outright kill any human who went up that high but one would come back all stretchy, another with the ability to turn into flame, and the last guy would be big and strong but really ugly. And the token chick would be invisible.