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AJM8125
24th July 2009, 01:47 PM
Well sort of. While doing a little surfing around trying to find an example of alienentity's truther's past postings, I found this nifty little contest:
http://superhawkcontest.blogspot.com/
I'm on my mobile right now so that link might not work so I'll tell you this truther is offering up his crappy old Honda motorcycle, his coin collection and $911 cash to anyone who can explain the collapse of the WTC building without "violating the laws of physics".
The catch here is that he appears to the only one judging the answers. I've enquired about his qualifications that make him an expert; no reply thus far.
Shocker.
The Platypus
24th July 2009, 01:52 PM
It's a bluff, he would never pay up...
Sam.I.Am
24th July 2009, 01:55 PM
I wonder if it will work when I email him a copy of all of the NISTs PDF's...
:D
Donal
24th July 2009, 02:01 PM
Hey, Honda bikes last forever. I bought my first motorcycle back in February. A 1996 Honda CB750. The previous owner took good care of it and it looks almost brand new and runs like a dream. I see a lot of the CB series from the 1960s throughout lower Manhattan (sadly, they seem to be big in the hipster community)
alienentity
24th July 2009, 02:04 PM
marcoddy
UK, age 29.
AJM8125
24th July 2009, 02:09 PM
I see a lot of the CB series from the 1960s throughout lower Manhattan (sadly, they seem to be big in the hipster community)
Which is exactly why I called it a crappy bike. I imagine if I won it I could unload it for an ungodly amount to some wannabe. All the more incentive to enter.
Sword_Of_Truth
24th July 2009, 02:11 PM
It's a bluff, he would never pay up...
I wonder if it will work when I email him a copy of all of the NISTs PDF's...
:D
If we have a volunteer who is willing to spend more than he would likely get back, I'd say go for it.
There is legal precedent for forcing him to pay (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mel_Mermelstein) if he should decide to shove his head even further up his ass:
In 1980, the Institute for Historical Review (IHR) promised a $50,000 reward to anyone who could prove that Jews were gassed at Auschwitz.
Mermelstein wrote a letter to the editors of the LA Times and others including The Jerusalem Post. The Institute for Historical Review wrote back, offering him $50,000 for proof that Jews were, in fact, gassed in the gas chambers at Auschwitz. Mermelstein, in turn, submitted a notarized account of his internment at Auschwitz and how he witnessed Nazi guards ushering his mother and two sisters and others towards (as he learned later) gas chamber number five.
Despite this, the IHR refused to pay the reward. Mermelstein subsequently sued the IHR in California Superior Court for breach of contract, anticipatory repudiation, libel, injurious denial of established fact, intentional infliction of emotional distress, and declaratory relief (see case no. c356542). On October 9, 1981, Los Angeles Superior Court Judge Thomas T. Johnson ruled in favor of Mermelstein, finding that he had provided sufficient evidence to prove his claim that Jews were gassed in the gas chambers at Auschwitz. The Court issued a judgment requiring the IHR to pay Mermelstein $50,000, plus $40,000 for personal suffering, and write a public apology to Mermelstein.
jaydeehess
24th July 2009, 02:12 PM
I will give my 1968 305 Honda CB77 Superhawk, a listed amount of gold and silver, and Nine Hundred and Eleven U.S. Dollars to the first person who can explain how the Twin Towers and World Trade Center Building 7 "collapsed" in a manner which fits the official story and DOES NOT DEFY THE LAWS OF PHYSICS; this must explain the near free-fall collapses, the molten metal beneath all three buildings, the pulverized steel-reinforced concrete, and the twisted girders.
Send responses to SuperhawkContest@live.com
All possible legit answers will be replied to as to why or why they are not correct. Legit answers will be reviewed by at least three engineers.
Pertinent responses will be posted at SuperhawkContest.blogspot.com
I will pay to ship the Superhawk and metal to the winner anywhere in the world. I am located in Portland, Oregon.
He does not list the 3 engineers nor say that their identities or qualifications will be made known to the respondents.
I note that he is setting himself up to disqualify someone based on their not being able to say exactly what caused specific deformations in specific columns.
alexi_drago
24th July 2009, 02:13 PM
this must explain the near free-fall collapses, the molten metal beneath all three buildings, the pulverized steel-reinforced concrete, and the twisted girders.
The near free-fall (if you must call it that) and the twisted girders ok
The molten metal and pulverized steel-reinforced concrete, hmmmm........
16.5
24th July 2009, 02:16 PM
"DOES NOT DEFY THE LAWS OF PHYSICS; this must explain the near free-fall collapses, the molten metal beneath all three buildings, the pulverized steel-reinforced concrete, and the twisted girders."
Uh, I am not sure that there is any hard evidence of the "molten metal' in the first place.
UNLoVedRebel
24th July 2009, 02:34 PM
It's best to leave these call for attentions competitions alone. This individual doesn't have even the most rudimentary understanding of physics. He thinks the government tried to pass off a controlled demolition using unknown technology with thermite as a fire-induced progressive collapse. There is no reasoning with people as deranged as this. You can explain the laws of physics to him in eloquent detail, he will not be able to understand it even if he tried. This is a University of YouTube grad, all he will do is cite a YouTube video as "proof".
jaydeehess
24th July 2009, 02:35 PM
I wonder if it will work when I email him a copy of all of the NISTs PDF's...
:D
His retort would be;
- NIST did not address the entire collapse only stating that global collapse would ensue after initial collapse
-NIST did not attempt to explain the underground fires, certainly not in the detail that would suffice for this prize
-NIST does not adress how all the concrete got pulverised
Sam.I.Am
24th July 2009, 02:38 PM
The near free-fall (if you must call it that) and the twisted girders ok
The molten metal and pulverized steel-reinforced concrete, hmmmm........
I wonder if this idiot knows what lightweight concrete is composed of and its strength or what the reinforcement consists of.
Example, this is a block of lightweight concrete:
http://img174.imageshack.us/img174/4607/block6998405.jpg
Notice that you can hammer nails into it, not exactly what you will find true of your average sidewalk.
This is what you will find inside thin slabs of concrete as reinforcement:
http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/3474/weldedmeshpanelconcrete.gif
It is used to prevent cracking from expansion and will not support the concretes weight.
Lightweight concrete has no strength because the aggregate used is rigid foam, not stone like regular concrete. It is also highly aerated to further decrease its density.
I think this guy is denser than the concrete used in the WTC and is quite possibly denser than my sidewalks concrete.
eromitlab
24th July 2009, 02:39 PM
Like there's any hard evidence of anything truthers talk about...
Also, I'd love to hear one of them even attempt to explain how molten metal fits into their controlled demolition narrative. WTC would be the first time in history that a CD produced molten metal, and for weeks on top of that. Guess that's where the superduperultrananothermite fits in, amirite?
jaydeehess
24th July 2009, 02:47 PM
the near free-fall collapses,
Ahh the ambiguous "near" free fall. It would be encumbant upon the truther to state just how far afeild from 'free fall' rate it would have to be before he would not find it suspicious.
the molten metal beneath all three buildings,
Given that the evidence for this is anecdotal one wonders exactly what he means by molten metal? Is it the lakes of liquid steel or the red hot, yet still solid, chunks?
the pulverized steel-reinforced concrete,
Given that if one smacks a reinforced concrete with a hammer one gets dust rising one wonders just what the steel in the concrete has to do with preventing dust from being produced? One also wonders how he characteriszes this. Is it a pulverization of ALL the concrete as is the bent (pun intended) of some in the TM? If not that he must supply a quantity of concrete that was respresented by the dust on scene.
and the twisted girders.
That one is easy. Very large forces bent them, but methinks he has a very specific question in mind such as "see this girder(he probably means column but maybe he isn't an engineer himself) and how its deformed. How exactly did that occur?"
jaydeehess
24th July 2009, 02:51 PM
Like there's any hard evidence of anything truthers talk about...
Also, I'd love to hear one of them even attempt to explain how molten metal fits into their controlled demolition narrative. WTC would be the first time in history that a CD produced molten metal, and for weeks on top of that. Guess that's where the superduperultrananothermite fits in, amirite?
yousrite, and I might add, it requires superduperultrananothermite in enormous quantities and/or with an ability to burn slow enough to last several weeks
Dave Rogers
24th July 2009, 02:57 PM
Good luck, everyone. Heiwa's million dollars will be parachuted in from piggyback before anyone gets as much as a straight answer from this woo merchant.
Dave
Lupie
24th July 2009, 03:56 PM
Gee,
This sure sounds like a nifty contest! But, I need another hobby that involves collecting like I need a hole in the head. As far as the money, I think Mr. truther probably needs those funds far more that I do. And the wheels, well, I'm more of a Ducati man, so I will regrettably, not be participating in this oh-so wonderful little excercise in truther desperation.
L.
boloboffin
24th July 2009, 05:29 PM
I have heard a description of the concrete used in the WTC floors (but can't remember where) as just enough to keep women's high heels from popping through the floor. That makes sense to me since the idea is to eliminate as much weight as possible while maximizing structural strength.
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