View Full Version : Texas Justice - Water Deadly Weapon, Bible Beatings
UnrepentantSinner
9th December 2003, 06:48 PM
A trial currently underway in Austin involves a Pastor who beat a child for not studying his Bible piusly enough.
http://www.dfw.com/mld/dfw/news/state/7453397.htm
And better yet, water is now a deadly weapon.
http://www.bayarea.com/mld/cctimes/news/7448920.htm
This story is also in the Dallas Morning News, but requires a subscription.
Blue Monk
9th December 2003, 07:57 PM
The Austin Bible Beating is a local story for me so I'd like to add something.
I can't find a link but they recently released photos of the beaten child and I would like for anyone reading about this to know that the injuries were severe.
All of us locally have been outraged by this incident but none of us were prepared for the photos. Two EMS workers who testified both said that they inadvertantly violated a standard rule to not react to injuries, for fear of alarming the patient, because they were so shocked by the severity.
They will be convicted.
They have admitted to the beating and are now only trying to defend themselves by suggesting they had the parents permission but no sane person on any jury could possibly allow for any justification for two grown men to beat a child so severly. He nearly died.
It would be considered brutal by gangland standards.
I hope the creeps rot in jail for a long time.
edited to add: By the way, many of their church still support them.
:jaw:
Let's hear it for faith-based initiatives.
Beanbag
9th December 2003, 08:26 PM
Those few people who know I'm an atheist have often wondered why I'm not more public about it. I've pointed out to them that there are a lot of people out there who would have no qualms about killing me "because God said it was OK." Texas is the buckle in the Baptist Bible Belt, and that's the one end of the belt you don't want to get hit with.
My experience has been that the greater the devotion, the lower the humanity. Compassion only exists for those that follow the same line. Anyone different is something less, and can be exploited or abused without cause for concern. Besides, it's for their own good.
Regards;
Beanbag (who really does believe in his SIG line)
WildCat
9th December 2003, 08:27 PM
Yes, they were severe. It was featured on ABC news this morning, absolutely horrible. They could get life for this, and maybe they should. Fundie idiots.
Zep
10th December 2003, 01:47 AM
As part of their punishment, they should be forced to tour each and every fundie Baptist church in Texas (and surrounding states, if possible) at their Sunday services, and be forced to recount to the assembled fundie congregations what they did and why they did it, in full detail from a prepared statement. With a picture show of the injuries they inflicted on the boy while they do this.
It is obviously not only these criminals that need a lesson...
UnrepentantSinner
10th December 2003, 02:19 AM
Since I'm the local guy for the Dallas story here's an excerpt from The Dallas Morning News:
Eight men could face up to 20 years in prison if convicted of assaulting Southern Methodist University fraternity pledges with an unusual deadly weapon: water.
In a northeast Dallas apartment last month, Braylon Curry and another SMU fraternity pledge were forced to drink hot sauce and gallons of water and were beaten with wooden paddles, authorities said.
Mr. Curry, an SMU junior, went into a coma, suffering from pulmonary edema, a condition in which water enters the lungs, and hyponatremia, a sodium imbalance brought on by excess fluid consumption, doctors said.
"If they refused to drink, if they stopped drinking, if they weren't drinking fast enough, they were beaten with paddles," said Bill Turnage, a deputy Dallas police chief in the northeast division.
The men were from Alpha Phi Alpha an all black fraternity. I wonder if the defense will play the race card.
I'm more concerned about the precident of declaring water to be a deadly weapon. What's next? If I feed someone with a legume alergy a handful of peanuts will I be charged with murder?
And on a medical note, most deaths from Exstacy are caused by hyponatremia.
NoZed Avenger
10th December 2003, 06:00 AM
Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner
I'm more concerned about the precident of declaring water to be a deadly weapon. What's next? If I feed someone with a legume alergy a handful of peanuts will I be charged with murder?
If you know about the allergy, you bet you will.
If you have reason to suspect the allergy, either criminally negligent homicide or involuntary manslaughter might be possibilities.
Mr Manifesto
10th December 2003, 06:02 AM
Originally posted by Beanbag
Texas is the buckle in the Baptist Bible Belt, and that's the one end of the belt you don't want to get hit with.
That's a very interesting turn of phrase. I'll have to steal it. ;)
NoZed Avenger
10th December 2003, 06:41 AM
Originally posted by Blue Monk
I hope the creeps rot in jail for a long time.
Seconded.
Tony
10th December 2003, 07:31 AM
WTF!?! It's a shame a little kid has to suffer because of these people's stupidity.
UnrepentantSinner
10th December 2003, 07:44 AM
"Iran is a democracy"
-----Jon_in_london
I hate to risk derailment, but technically he's right.
Tony
10th December 2003, 07:46 AM
Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner
I hate to risk derailment, but technically he's right.
Have you seen Jon's signiture? If you have, you'll get the joke. :)
Blue Monk
10th December 2003, 07:55 AM
Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner
I hate to risk derailment, but technically he's right.
Not to split hairs (aw who am I kidding?) it's a theocratic republic.
specious_reasons
10th December 2003, 08:33 AM
I seem to recall that some Chicago-area Baptist churches would have public beatings, where the father (or the priest) would flog their children for real or percieved transgressions.
It seems it's not isolated to the South, but I'm fairly certain this comes from certain Baptist variations.
From Beanbag:
My experience has been that the greater the devotion, the lower the humanity. Compassion only exists for those that follow the same line. Anyone different is something less, and can be exploited or abused without cause for concern. Besides, it's for their own good.
You should post more often, Beanbag, you've got a knack for pithy observations.
Beanbag
10th December 2003, 04:04 PM
Originally posted by specious_reasons
You should post more often, Beanbag, you've got a knack for pithy observations.
I've been accused of being full of pith and vinegar more than once.
Regards;
Beanbag
Blue Monk
10th December 2003, 09:08 PM
Both brothers have been found guilty on two counts, injury to a child and aggravated assault.
The jury deliberated for three hours. They both face life in prison on the injury to a child charge.
I’ll post it when the sentencing is complete.
Matabiri
11th December 2003, 06:04 AM
Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner
I'm more concerned about the precident of declaring water to be a deadly weapon. What's next?
It's dangerous stuff.
"Inhalation
Acute over exposure: Inhalation can result in asphyxiation and is often fatal.
Chronic overexposure: Chronic inhalation overexposure not encountered."
http://www.hsegroup.com/hse/text/water.htm
(There was (allegedly) a school safety book in the UK that, under "Water" said, "Eye contact: rinse with plenty of water.")
Blue Monk
12th December 2003, 06:51 PM
The twins go to prison.
The brother who did the beating got 26 years for injury to a child and 20 years for aggravated assault.
His brother who held the kid down got 14 years for injury to a child and 14 years for aggravated assault.
I don't know if the sentances will be served concurrently but that is usually the case.
NoZed Avenger
12th December 2003, 08:36 PM
Originally posted by Blue Monk
The twins go to prison.
The brother who did the beating got 26 years for injury to a child and 20 years for aggravated assault.
His brother who held the kid down got 14 years for injury to a child and 14 years for aggravated assault.
I don't know if the sentances will be served concurrently but that is usually the case.
They are concurrent.
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