Sylvia Browne dispenses medical advice

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From the Oct. 29 Montel Williams Show: WILLIAMS: So please welcome Antha to the show. Where's Antha at?

ANTHA (Wants to Know What Causes Her to Faint): Hi.

WILLIAMS: Now, tell us about this fainting problem of yours. Wait, how long has this been going on?

ANTHA: Well, when it first started happening a lot, it was two years ago, and then I had looked back and realized that it had happened when I was younger as well. It was about two years ago, from the span of maybe, like, June to December, and I was fainting every day. And then, it was kind of every other
day. And then it was--it was lessening a little bit, but at the time, I was working in HR, and I was doing the orientation for new hires. So I would be with all these new hires and be like, 'Listen, you know, I might faint,' which was scary for them and very scary for me.

Ms. BROWNE: Oh, yeah.

ANTHA: And you know, it's happened a lot of different times. I've been getting my hair done, and I'll be like, 'OK, you can finish my hair on the floor,' or I'll drive in the right lane, so that if I'm going to faint, I can just quick pull over. Different instances, what will happen...

WILLIAMS: Wait, wait, wait. You are actually living your life around your fainting?

ANTHA: Yes.

WILLIAMS: And how many doctors have you seen and asked them, 'What's going on?'

ANTHA: I got MRIs. I got CAT scans, blood tests, sonograms, urine tests, like, every medical test imaginable. And they were just kind of like, 'Oh, it's syncope,' you know? Will that...

WILLIAMS: It's what?

ANTHA: It's syncope, which is just--it means fainting. What will happen is, is that I'll black out for about five minutes, and then for another 10 minutes or so, I can't move. I'm cold. I'm clammy. I'm shaky. And it's--I'm afraid to, you know, go out sometimes on my own. I'm afraid to drive.

Ms. BROWNE: Otherwise--if it wasn't for what I do know psychically, I would say it was like an epilepsy, but it's not. You have a terrible case of low blood sugar, terrible.

ANTHA: What--what do--what would you do to help that go away?

Ms. BROWNE: You have to eat protein. And you have to eat small meals all the time.

ANTHA: Yeah. Because I feel like I--I constantly need to eat to keep myself up. And then, I have to usually go to the bathroom before and after it happens, so I felt like there was something digestive going on, too, and I was missing something.

Ms. BROWNE: That's right. It's because you're not eating enough protein. Let me tell you something, and I don't tell about myself. When I was a young girl, I used to faint everywhere. Fainted in church, fainted on streetcar tracks. I had low blood sugar.

ANTHA: Yeah, because I was just afraid.

Ms. BROWNE: You got to eat hard-boiled eggs. I don't care what it is, everything, all the time.

ANTHA: So you--you think it's just a diet thing? Like, should I see a nutritionist?

Ms. BROWNE: Yes, and I would go to the hospital, and I would get a glucose tolerance test. Lie there with a needle and drink that goo.

ANTHA: 'Cause I'm nervous, you know, for the future, for when I'm going to have children. And I always tell my husband, like, I'm always afraid that--that I don't have a long time to live.

Ms. BROWNE: Honey, you have low blood sugar. That's the end of the conversation.

WILLIAMS: And like she said, you need to go and have it checked.

Ms. BROWNE: That's it. That's it.

WILLIAMS: Go see a doctor, have him check your blood sugar and see...

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah. Go to the hospital and get the glucose tolerance test.

ANTHA: So, otherwise, health-wise...

Ms. BROWNE: Oh, yeah, you're fine.

ANTHA: ...I'm fine?Why is this woman allowed to get away this charlatanism? :mad:

[Suezoled]

Browne often seems to dispense medical advice. But that's okay; if the person dies, she can, for a fee, channel that person's message from the beyond to your loved ones who haven't come over yet. And if the person died of, say, a stroke, she'll still insist, because she saw, the person also had heart problems, even though autopsy would reveal nothing is wrong with the heart.

[Monketey Ghost]

While I agree that she does occasionally give medical advice, what's wrong with telling someone to go see a doctor, to go to the hospital for blood sugar tests?

[Suezoled]

Sylvia has no place telling someone what is going on with their bodies, telling them what to get tested, and at what facility. She has no idea what the person's real problems might be; it might not be blood sugar at all. Sylvia is a living breathing deception, a poisonous balm for the masses who prefer lies in exchange for their hard earned cash.

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More, from the Oct. 22 show:Unidentified Woman #24: Hi, Sylvia. My 13-month-old daughter was diagnosed
with torticollis a little after she was born, and she's being--in therapy right now. And I'm just wanting to know if she's going to overcome that and be OK.

Ms. BROWN: She is. Absolutely.

Unidentified Woman #24: OK. Good.

Ms. BROWN: Because you storm the heavens with prayers, and they do work. You know that, don't you?

WILLIAMS: Yes, ma'am?

Unidentified Woman #25: My daughter's having some medical problems, and I wanted to know if you know what might be wrong with her and if she'll be OK.

Ms. BROWN: She's got a problem with terrible anemia. She's got a problem with irritable bowel syndrome. And she has a problem with her C3 and her L4 and L5.

Unidentified Woman #25: Thank you.

Unidentified Woman #26: Hi, Sylvia. I've been dealing with skin problems for about 10 years, and I've been to about 20 different doctors. Could you tell me what it is?

Ms. BROWN: Wheat.

Unidentified Woman #26: Wheat?

Ms. BROWN: Wheat. You can't eat wheat.

Unidentified Woman #26: OK. Thank you.

Ms. BROWN: It makes you have, like, an eczema or whatever. Yeah. Trust me on this. Don't even--listen to what I say. Stay off wheat for a week, then eat a piece of toast or whatev--and see what happens to you. You'll see it.

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From the September 24 show:Unidentified Woman #4: Hi. Sylvia, I've been ill since 1994, and no one has told me that what I have deteriorates. And I kind of think it does, and I kind of think we're making...

Ms. BROWNE: What, that chronic...

Unidentified Woman #4: ...medical...

Ms. BROWNE: ...fatigue and fibromyalgia...

Unidentified Woman #4: Yes, absolutely.

Ms. BROWNE: ...deteriorate? No, honey, it doesn't deteriorate.

Unidentified Woman #4: It's--I am worse than ever.

Ms. BROWNE: I know, but, see, honey, I swear to God to you the one thing that helps--please, listen to me, fibromyalgia--and I'm not a big Atkins fan, but you 've got to go on protein.

Unidentified Woman #4: I am.

Ms. BROWNE: You can't feed the body sugar. You don't have to eat big, fat, bloody meat. You can eat soy, whatever you want to eat.

Unidentified Woman #4: Mm-hmm.

WILLIAMS: Chicken, fish.

Ms. BROWNE: But no, you don't. You cheat.

Unidentified Woman #4: You're right.

WILLIAMS: All right, all right. How much white flour you eat?

Unidentified Woman #4: Pardon me?

WILLIAMS: How much white flour do you eat?

Ms. BROWNE: Too much.

Unidentified Woman #4: Not too much. I'm a candy eater.

WILLIAMS: Not too much.

Ms. BROWNE: You see that--that...

WILLIAMS: Did you have some bread this morning?

Unidentified Woman #4: Pardon?

WILLIAMS: Did you have bread this morning?

Unidentified Woman #4: No, I didn't.

WILLIAMS: Cereal this morning?

Unidentified Woman #4: I haven't eaten today yet.

WILLIAMS: OK, good.

Ms. BROWNE: No cereal. He's right. No bread, no, no.

Unidentified Woman #4: Uh-huh.

Ms. BROWNE: No. And stop that damned candy.

WILLIAMS: Busted!

Unidentified Woman #4: Yeah, I did get busted.Busted?! She admitted that she eats too much candy! :rolleyes:(This follows a competely unrelated "reading" for Tina.)

Ms. BROWNE: Absolutely, absolutely. Now have you had your breasts checked recently?

TINA: No.

Ms. BROWNE: 'Cause you have cystic breasts. You know that, don't you?

TINA: No.

Ms. BROWNE: Well, get them checked.

TINA: OK.

Ms. BROWNE: It's not serious. I just want you to check them.

TINA: OK.Just a quick websearch found numerous sites like this one (http://www.cpmc.org/services/women/breast/breast_cyst.html), which state that "Breast cysts are common, particularly in women age 40-60."Unidentified Woman #20: I've been seeing a doctor for migraines, and he wanted to send me to a neurologist and I've kind of put it off. I'm kind of afraid to go. Is it something more than--I'm--I'm thinking it's something more. Or is it just I'm plagued with migraines that are getting worse?

Ms. BROWNE: No, it--it--but you have to go to a neurologist. You know, but have him please look at your C3 and C4 in your neck, the cervical nerve area.

Unidentified Woman #20: That's the problem area.

Ms. BROWNE: I know it is.Well, at least here we can hope she has convinced someone to go to a neurologist.

[Paladin]

Syncope isn't as simple as "just fainting"

http://www.ninds.nih.gov/health_and_medical/disorders/syncope_doc.htm

What is Syncope?
Syncope is the temporary loss of consciousness due to a sudden decline in blood flow to the brain. It may be caused by an irregular cardiac rate or rhythm or by changes of blood volume or distribution. Syncope can occur in otherwise healthy people. The patient feels faint, dizzy, or lightheaded (presyncope), or loses consciousness (syncope).

As I understand it, If a person's blood sugar falls so low that they faint, they are in a seriously life-threatening condition. While Browne may not be incorrect in advising that the person have their blood glucose levels checked, it ain't the same as syncope.

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From the September 17 show:Unidentified Woman #6: Hi, Sylvia. How's my health?

Ms. BROWNE: You're anemic, your blood sugar's lousy and your stomach's not that great. So why don't you go and get a complete physical?

Unidentified Woman #6: OK.

Ms. BROWNE: I mean, you know you're anemic, don't you?

Unidentified Woman #6: Well, I have been going through that.

Ms. BROWNE: Well--well, yeah.

Unidentified Woman #6: It's just--it's...

Ms. BROWNE: Well, take iron, for God's sake.There are several different types of anemia - Iron Deficiency Anemia (IDA) is just one type. Furthermore (http://www.irondisorders.org/disorders/ida/index.htm), Large doses of supplemental oral iron have not been proven beneficial. Studies conducted by Dr. Janet Hunt, Grand Forks Nutritional Center, U.S. Department of Agriculture, indicate that our body's natural regulation mechanism will adjust for the amount of iron absorption during periods of growth and pregnancy. Increased supplementation in normal individuals can cause additional and possibly unnecessary iron to go into burial as reflected by ferritin elevation.Unidentified Woman #11: Hello, Sylvia. My daughter is going to ha--be having surgery, and we want to know if that's really the way to go or not with her.

Ms. BROWNE: This is corrective?

Unidentified Woman #11: Yes, corrective.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah.

Unidentified Woman #11: It is?

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah. It's the only way to go.

Unidentified Woman #11: OK, thank you.

Ms. BROWNE: Otherwise she's just going to balloon up, do you know what I mean? Yeah.

Unidentified Woman #11: 'Cause she's in a lot of pain.

Ms. BROWNE: I know she is, and she's beginning to hold water.

Unidentified Woman #11: Mm-hmm.

Ms. BROWNE: I know.

Unidentified Woman #11: Thank you.Unidentified Woman #21: Hi. I wa--I--I'll be married 25 years in January, and I was just concerned about my husband's health.

Ms. BROWNE: I'm concerned about his thyroid and his prostate. But if he looks at that, he'll be fine.

Unidentified Woman #21: OK. Thank you.Hmmm...an older man should have his prostate checked. How DOES she do it?

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From the September 10 show:Unidentified Woman #3: Hi, Sylvia. I've had many medical problems since I was young, and my husband and I would like to try and have a baby and I just want to know if that's going to be safe.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, but before you do that, I want you to make sure that you really have your heart monitored, OK? Before you do that, OK? And the only problem is, when you do get pregnant, you're going to have to stay nine months in bed. It's OK. It's worth it.

Unidentified Woman #3: OK. Thanks.And here's a little veterinary medicine from the July 30 show:Unidentified Woman #6: Yes, my dog's been having seizures, and they can't seem to find out what's wrong with her. Could you tell me, does she have a brain tumor?

Ms. BROWNE: Yes, she does.

Unidentified Woman #6: She does. Is there anything we can do?

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah. And it's, oh, right behind the right ear in this quadrant right here. See, I--you know, I am such an animal lover. There's not much you can do about this now.

Unidentified Woman #6: Is she in pain?

Ms. BROWNE: Pardon me?

Unidentified Woman #6: Is she in pain?

Ms. BROWNE: No, she's in no pain, no. No, I'd be real nuts with that. No, no.For that poor dog's sake, I hope that Sylvia is correct on this one. Can you imagine if the dog really IS in pain, but the owner lets her suffer because this alleged psychic tells her that nothing can be done?

[Paladin]

Originally posted by zakur
From the September 10 show:And here's a little veterinary medicine from the July 30 show:For that poor dog's sake, I hope that Sylvia is correct on this one. Can you imagine if the dog really IS in pain, but the owner lets her suffer because this alleged psychic tells her that nothing can be done?
Dogs usually behave in very obvious ways when they are in pain. The very question, "Is she in any pain," is a sure indicator that she isn't, so Sylvia can safely say, "No, she isn't." In addition, epileptic seizure, according to the sources below, is not a painful condition.

That, friends, is cold reading in a nutshell.

BTW, canine epilepsy is common enough, and is treatable in many cases.

http://www.k9web.com/dog-faqs/medical/epilepsy.html

http://www.k9magazinefree.com/k9_perspective/iss11p7.shtml

Owners need to remember also that their dog is not suffering - epilepsy in itself is not a painful illness, even though it can seem to doting and worried owners that their pet must be feeling pain.

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From the July 23 show:WILLIAMS: Please welcome Myra to the show.

MYRA (Says She Doesn't Know Why Her Stomach Swells Up): Thank you.

WILLIAMS: Myra. First--first--first, explain what the issue is. Explain the problem. What's been happening?

MYRA: Well, my stomach will swell up to the size of about a five- to eight-month pregnant woman. The pain is constantly there. Sometimes it's worse than others. It's been there since childbirth, I guess, according to my mother. I go to the emergency room often and they keep me a few days, run all these tests, then send me back home. They've done MRIs on me. They took out a left ovary. They've done hernia surgery, ultrasounds, D&Cs, laparoscopy. I've been to gastroenterologists, urologists, OB/GYNs, pain specialists.

Ms. BROWNE: You can't take iodine.

MYRA: Excuse me?

Ms. BROWNE: You can't take iodine.

MYRA: Salt?

WILLIAMS: Iodine--fish, shellfish.

Ms. BROWNE: Iodine is in salt, it's in fish, it's in--it's in anything.Got that folks? Iodine is in anything
MYRA: Iodine.

Ms. BROWNE: You can't take iodine.

WILLIAMS: Go check it out.

MYRA: And my daughter, do you think she--that she would have the same problem?

Ms. BROWNE: Absolutely. It runs in the family.

MYRA: It does? And...

Ms. BROWNE: It's--and we have iodized salt, we have fish, we have tuna--I mean, you know, it's--it's--like Montel was saying in one show, it's--it's better than gluten. Gluten's in everything. I mean, at least you know where fish is or iodine is.

MYRA: Well, can you explain why when I wear elastic or high-heel shoes that my stomach will swell like that and cause more pain?

Ms. BROWNE: Well, honey, too, because you're putting pressure on the diaphragm and everything else. See what I'm saying?

MYRA: Yeah, any kind of pressure, oh, it kills me.

Ms. BROWNE: Ask anybody who has Crohn's or diverticulitis if they wear heels. It puts pressure because, you know...

WILLIAMS: And that's your stomach normally.

MYRA: That was that morning, and then 15 minutes later I put on a skirt and a pair of high-heel shoes and that happened.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah.

MYRA: Yeah.

WILLIAMS: And it goes up and down like that almost...

MYRA: Yes. And sometimes it's really, really more extended than that. I mean, it's awful.

WILLIAMS: B...

MYRA: I wear--I wear about a size 8 to 10. I hate to say my size on TV, but I usually have to wear a 12 or a 14 because of my stomach swelling.

WILLIAMS: You know what you could do just to verify this for yourself?

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah. Yeah.

WILLIAMS: Go to a person who's an immunologist...

Ms. BROWNE: Yes. And check on your iodine.

WILLIAMS: ...who will then check and see--well, not even an immunologist. A person who determines whether or not you have allergies. So an allergy specialist.

Ms. BROWNE: Allergies. Allergist. Yeah.

MYRA: OK.

WILLIAMS: Have them test you for iodine allergy and then if it comes back, that means you have to start avoiding those things that have iodine in them...

MYRA: I sure will.

Ms. BROWNE: Anything that has to do...

WILLIAMS: ...because it's probably causing gas in your system...

MYRA: OK.

Ms. BROWNE: See, what happens is...

WILLIAMS: ...to extend.

Ms. BROWNE: ...sort of like Montel says, it might not happen that day...

MYRA: Right.

Ms. BROWNE: You know, it's like I've had people with lactose...

MYRA: Right. Oh, yeah. Mm-hmm.

Ms. BROWNE: ...but the next day you get it. Do you see what I'm saying?

MYRA: Yes, ma'am.I'm not familiar with iodine allergies. Is abdominal distension a symptom? Regardless, I would have referred this woman to another gastroenterologist, not an allergist.Unidentified Woman #17: I've been suffering with pain for a lot of years and treatment, and I'm not getting anywhere. Do you know what it is, how I can get help?

Ms. BROWNE: Fibromyalgia. You have fibromyalgia.

Unidentified Woman #17: OK. What's that do?

Ms. BROWNE: Fibromyalgia s--responds--and I'm not a doctor--responds to a high-protein diet more than anything else in this world.

Unidentified Woman #17: Thank you.I cannot find any studies confirming that a high-protein diet is the most effective treatment of fibromyalgia. Here, again, I think Sylvia is talking out of her ass.

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From the July 16 show. This one is hilarious:Ms. BROWNE: Let's go to the woman with the stomach thing, who was stabbed.

WILLIAMS: Well, I was--let's do that. The lady in front, the lady--right there in--in the strawberries. Stand up for a econd. 'Cause you got stabbed last year. No, in another life.

Ms. BROWNE: In a--yeah, in another life.

WILLIAMS: In another life. Do you have stomach issues? Answer that first.

Unidentified Woman #3: I--not that I'm aware of.

Ms. BROWNE: But be very careful, because it's right in this area right here. That's why you're beginning to have acid.

Unidentified Woman #3: I'm having respiratorial problems.

Ms. BROWNE: OK, well this is acid-respiratory.

Unidentified Woman #3: Yeah.That is pure comedy!

In this next one, Sylvia diagnoses the audience member and then diagnoses Montel: Unidentified Woman #7: Hello. I'd like to know if I'm going to see the right doctor. I had a bad fall many years ago, and the pain is in my spine to my hips, to my knees. Will I get the right treatment?

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah. You know that you cracked your four--your L4, L5 and L6. You know that, don't you?

Unidentified Woman #7: Correct.

Ms. BROWNE: Yes. You know that you also have a Sciatica problem running at...

Unidentified Woman #7: Correct.

Ms. BROWNE: Correct. Yeah.

WILLIAMS: Well, could you do an X-ray on my ankle right this minute, because, you know--I mean, you should just look right through there because this...

Ms. BROWNE: You do have a weak ankle, though. You know that, don't you?

WILLIAMS: Yeah, I know I've got a problem. OK, we'll talk about that later.

Ms. BROWNE: No. You don't have a split, but you do have a bone spur. You know you do. You have a bone...

WILLIAMS: That spot that hurts?

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, that hurts when you walk on it. You know it used to be like a--a bone bruise. You know what that feels--it's a bone spur.

WILLIAMS: Yeah. Yeah. You can see it?

Ms. BROWNE: Of course I can.

WILLIAMS: OK.

Ms. BROWNE: We've only known each other 12 years.

WILLIAMS: I'm sorry. Go ahead. Go ahead. Yeah.

Ms. BROWNE: Go ahead. Come on, darling.

WILLIAMS: Go ahead, do her X-ray. Go ahead.

Unidentified Woman #7: I--thank you. I--I want to know, will I...

Ms. BROWNE: You are going to find a neurologist that's going to take care of it. Now listen to me.

Unidentified Woman #7: OK.

Ms. BROWNE: I'm not for you having surgery, but they're going to give you some kind of an injection. Do you see what I'm saying?

Unidentified Woman #7: Yes.

Ms. BROWNE: That it's going to block nerve.

Unidentified Woman #7: OK.

Ms. BROWNE: All right? Because it's...

Unidentified Woman #7: OK.

WILLIAMS: So the pain will dissipate.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, because this limping around...

Unidentified Woman #7: I'm in agony.

Ms. BROWNE: ...is stupid, it's aggravating.

Unidentified Woman #7: Thank you.

Ms. BROWNE: And you always were so active, and now you can't be, it's making you crazy.

Unidentified Woman #7: The more you can't do something, the more determined you are to do it.

Ms. BROWNE: Isn't it--isn't it--it just makes you nuts.

Unidentified Woman #7: Correct.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah.

Unidentified Woman #7: Thank you so much.

Ms. BROWNE: You're welcome, sweetie.Woman is in pain. Sylvia sees an injection in her future. Wow!

Does Montel really believe Sylvia is X-raying people with her super powers? He can't be that gullible.

[Suezoled]

I'm in pain Zakur. Someone put Sylvia out of my misery. :D

[zakur]

Originally posted by Suezoled
I'm in pain Zakur. You must have been stabbed in a previous life. ;)

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by zakur
Does Montel really believe Sylvia is X-raying people with her super powers? He can't be that gullible.

Oh, it's far worse.

Montel is smart. No doubt about that. He knows about people, and he can spot a fake when he sees one.

Montel also has MS. That's Multiple Sclerosis.

Sylvia? She has predicted that there will be a cure "within the next few years" ("Past Lives, Future Healing", p.141). She even mentions her "closest, most treasured friend" whom she loves "in this life" just as she's loved him in their "past lives together". Yup, that's Montel she is talking about.

What does a person do, when diagnosed with MS? MS will turn you into a slobbering vegetable before it kills you, and the prospects for a cure are not rosy. It's not even in sight.

But here comes Sylvia, Montel's "closest, most treasured friend" (their friendship predates his diagnosis), promising a cure "within the next few years".

What is Montel to do? He hinges on Sylvia, the same way any believer will hinge on any psychic that tells the believer what he/she wants to hear.

From his POV, very understandable. From Sylvias POV? ROI. That's Return Of Interest.

The business of mediumship is far, far worse that just "connecting" with people. It's not about "closure" or making contact "one last time".

It is emotional and psychological vampyrism.

It doesn't matter if you promise them a cure for MS or fool them into believing they are "connecting" with Auntie Em. Or Ol' Yella.

It is emotional and psychological vampyrism, no matter how you look at it.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by zakur
You must have been stabbed in a previous life. ;)

You're psychic!

Past Li(v)es (http://www.skepticreport.com/psychics/browneerrors.htm)
Find "Camille", the misplaced homesteader.

Cell Memory (http://www.skepticreport.com/psychics/cellmemory.htm)

[UnrepentantSinner]

That frog-voiced constipation-visaged bitch. I merely hated her before, but now I wish pain and suffering upon her. Hopefully as much as she's caused others directly and indirectly.

The fact that this lumpy piece of sub-human detrious continues to have a profitable life tells me there is no Karma, Three-Fold Law or any other B.S. like them.

[jimlintott]

ANTHA: I got MRIs. I got CAT scans, blood tests, sonograms, urine tests, like, every medical test imaginable. And they were just kind of like, 'Oh, it's syncope,' you know? Will that...

The lady had already had blood tests done and had said so. I'm no doctor but my guess is that blood sugar was likely one of the first things her doctor checked.

[chillzero]

Originally posted by No Answers
While I agree that she does occasionally give medical advice, what's wrong with telling someone to go see a doctor, to go to the hospital for blood sugar tests?

because a lot of her fans, especially those with lower medical insurance (or none), will take her 'advice' about changing their diet, and not see a doctor, because they believe they have already been told the answers.
This person may change their diet completely, as advised, not see a doctor, and get ill from some difficiency or overload of some vitamin/chemical/additive or other.

[zakur]

From the May 7, 2003, Montel Williams show:BRANDIE (Wants To Know If There Will Be A Cure For Her Blood Disorder): Sorry, I get emotional.

Ms. BROWNE: That's all right.

BRANDIE: I have been diagnosed with a rare blood disease, and--among a few other diseases that have happened over the last few years. Nobody in my family has been diagnosed with this one particular disease. There's no cure for it. I'm in the hospital...

Ms. BROWNE: It's where your blood cells are not dividing right or something, isn't it?

BRANDIE: Right. I'm missing a protein.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, right.

WILLIAMS: You know, I'm about ready to pop you. I really am. 'Cause you know why? 'Cause you make me look bad--I'm sorry to--to do this, but you know what happens is, I--I--I will leave this show. The show will air, and somebody 's gonna come up to me and say I gave Sylvia all this information, and I didn't give you anything.

Ms. BROWNE: Brandie...

WILLIAMS: Go ahead. I'm sorry.

Ms. BROWNE: ...you know that I didn't know that.

WILLIAMS: That's right. Go ahead.

BRANDIE: No. I--I...

Ms. BROWNE: Well, you didn't even know that.

WILLIAMS: I know. Go ahead. Go ahead, do your thing.

Ms. BROWNE: Anyway, there will be a--a cure. Now this is gonna sound crazy, but g--get to a blood doctor and see if you can't give blood. You don't want to give blood to anybody else, but I want you to also have some blood extracted because I'm also worried about your red cells multiplying. Do you see what I'm saying? So wha--I mean, so what? You give blood, let it go down the--you-- 'cause you're not gonna give it to anybody.

BRANDIE: Right.

Ms. BROWNE: But I want you to have a--you know, let...

WILLIAMS: Flush the blood?

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, flush it.

BRANDIE: OK.Huh? :confused:

[LTC8K6]

It sounds like Sylvia has prescribed bloodletting for Brandie.

Clearly, Brandie's red blood cells are multiplying too quickly, and Brandie must get rid of some of them. :)

Ugh! This stuff is hard to read. I can't imagine sitting and watching it go on. I would throw things at the TV.

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Originally posted by CFLarsen
Sylvia? She has predicted that there will be a cure "within the next few years" ("Past Lives, Future Healing", p.141). She even mentions her "closest, most treasured friend" whom she loves "in this life" just as she's loved him in their "past lives together". Yup, that's Montel she is talking about.Reading through some more of these Montel transcripts, I found another place where Sylvia says MS will be cured. The following is from the November 5, 2002, Montel Williams Show:Ms. BROWNE: Let's talk about MS, not just because I'm--you know, that I love you so much that I'm always concerned, but they really, really are going to come out with a two-part hormone thing that does have to do with some kind of stem cell that's going to just arrest MS like that.Got that, folks? It's going to be a "two-part hormone thing" derived from stem cell research that will arrest MS.

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More obsession with anemia and "big fat bloody meat," from the December 31, 2002, Montel Williams Show:Unidentified Woman #5: Hi, Sylvia. I was just wondering if there was any health issues that are arising around my family or myself?

Ms. BROWNE: No. And you don't look it, but in--it's very characteristic in young females, which I meant to tell you about your daughter, too-is anemi--anemia. You've got to watch your daughter, the oldest one...

WILLIAMS: Gotcha.

Ms. BROWNE: ...anemia, anemic. You know you're anemic. Because you go in and out of it. I don't think you have to eat big fat--like I say to my clients, big fat bloody meat, but for God's sake, eat more protein.

Unidentified Woman #5: Thank you.

Ms. BROWNE: OK.

WILLIAMS: You've got to put a little red meat in your body.

Ms. BROWNE: That's--you can, sure. But, you know, people think when you say meat that it's big fat bloody meat three times--no. But, you know, we are carnivores.This "reading" is just completely garbled.

First she says there are no health problems in this woman's family.

Then she says the woman's daughter is anemic.

Then she says the woman is anemic.

Then she says they need to eat "big fat bloody meat" because "we are carnivores."

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

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Some more health soothsaying from Sylvia, also from the December 31 Montel Show:Unidentified Woman #9: Do you know when we'll have a baby?

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, a boy.

Unidentified Woman #9: Do you know when?

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, right away.

Unidentified Woman #9: Oh.

Ms. BROWNE: That's why I want him to get an echocardiogram. Not because I think he's go--if I thought he was going to die, I'd be right up over the, you know, thing here, but he's got a murmur and he's got a little bit of a leak here that's starting, and I want to catch it. Because, you know, they have the thing here that--that go--What?--and it...

WILLIAMS: Up the femoral artery, up the...

Ms. BROWNE: Ye--yeah, yeah. And it just--Super Glue.

WILLIAMS: OK.

Unidentified Woman #9: Thank you.

WILLIAMS: OK.

Ms. BROWNE: OK.Super Glue?! :confused:

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From the May 28, 2003, Montel Williams Show:Unidentified Woman #2: Hi, Sylvia. My husband has been hos--hospitalized for the past two days, all kinds of tests, hooked up to machines. Do you know what 's wrong?

Ms. BROWNE: I want them to look at his liver.

Unidentified Woman #2: OK.

Ms. BROWNE: I want 'em to do a complete bilirubin count.

Unidentified Woman #2: That's what they're doing.

Ms. BROWNE: Something's wrong with the liver that's spiking.

WILLIAMS: Are--are--do you already know that there's something wrong with his liver? OK. Let me take a little break. We'll be back right after this.Spiking liver. I hate when that happens.Unidentified Woman #3: Yes. Hi, Sylvia. I've always had like medical problems, and I've always been to the doctor. And they can never find out what 's wrong. I have like severe hair loss and stomach and sinus problems. Can you tell me why?

Ms. BROWNE: And your thyroid is awful.

Unidentified Woman #3: Really? Is that why this hair is--my hair is falling out?

Ms. BROWNE: Sure, your hair will thin, you're terribly exhausted. Your digestive system--it's a motor mechanism of the body. You must get a T-3, T-4, because if you just have blood taken, they won't find it.

Unidentified Woman #3: Those are tests, T-3 or T-4?

Ms. BROWNE: T-3, T-4.

Unidentified Woman #3: OK.

WILLIAMS: Have a full thyroid test done.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah.

Unidentified Woman #3: Thank you. Thank you very much.

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From the May 21, 2003, Montel Show:Unidentified Woman #22: Hi, Montel. Hi, Sylvia. I would like to know if I'm gonna get better from this disease that I was born with. There's no cure for atopic dermatitis. And it's just manifet--fested throughout my body, and I don 't know what to do anymore.

Ms. BROWNE: Have you stopped everything that has to do with dairy?

Unidentified Woman #22: Yes. I understood that that's a major allergen.

Ms. BROWNE: Big major. But see, what people don't realize...

WILLIAMS: And everything.

Ms. BROWNE: Everything. You've gotta look at labels. We had a kid here on this show whose m--mother took her off of lactose because she was having seizures, then found out the medication they were giving her was bound in lactose. So be so careful. Look at your boxes, everything.

Unidentified Woman #22: OK. Thank you.

WILLIAMS: It is really silly, but truthfully, the amount of--it's--it's like when people try to go off of certain flour...

Ms. BROWNE: Oh.

WILLIAMS: ...or off of gluten. You'd be shocked at--when you start reading the fine print...

Ms. BROWNE: Oh, my God.

WILLIAMS: ...they'll give you a big word, and that word represents gluten...

Ms. BROWNE: Means gluten.

WILLIAMS: ...and something else.

Ms. BROWNE: Yes.

WILLIAMS: So be very careful of your s--you need to be on a--on a milk-free diet, completely milk, dairy-free diet.

Ms. BROWNE: No lactose.

Unidentified Woman #22: Well, I just use soy milk now, but I'm still breaking out.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, but even packaged goods that you get can be bound, or they can even have...

WILLIAMS: Cookies, candy.

Ms. BROWNE: Anything.

Unidentified Woman #22: OK. Thanks.From the May 14, 2003, show:KALLIE (Has Been Trying To Get Pregnant For 3 Years): Me and my husband have been trying for at least three to four years to have a child. I just wanted to know, when will I ever get pregnant?

Ms. BROWNE: No, you're going to have to adopt, honey.

WILLIAMS: But now, you have been--both you and your husband have been to doctors, correct? What have the doctors told to you?

Ms. BROWNE: They can't find anything.

KALLIE: They can't. They said he was fine, and I was fine.

Ms. BROWNE: You're fine.

WILLIAMS: So why wouldn't she be able have a child?

Ms. BROWNE: It's the weirdest thing. It's almost like sometimes people are allergic to each other. In other words, let's say she's acidic, and he's too acid--or too alkaline. It--it negates the sperm.

WILLIAMS: So between the two of them, they're just not gonna have a baby?

Ms. BROWNE: (Shakes head) But adoption is so wonderful. Really, it is. And I don't want you to have to go through that month after month after month agony.

KALLIE: OK.

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From the Aug. 4, 2004, Montel Williams show:
WILLIAMS: Yes, ma'am, you had a question for Sylvia.

Unidentified Woman #7: Hi, Sylvia. I'd like to know if you know of the reason that my daughter has an illness or if we'll find out what the illness is?

Ms. BROWNE: Isn't this a neurological problem?

Woman #7: No, not that we know of.

Ms. BROWNE: Are you sure that it's not in the whole nervous system?

Woman #7: That's a question that I'm asking.

Ms. BROWNE: That's what I'm telling you. I'm sure it's in the neurological system.

Woman #7: OK.

Ms. BROWNE: Have you checked or had an endocrinologist? You should have a neurologist and an endocrinologist. Check the pituitary and pineal gland.

Woman #7: OK. Yeah, we only did the--the digestive system and everything.

Ms. BROWNE: Mm-mm. This is the master gland. This regulates everything. Please go from here up, all right?

Woman #7: OK, yeah. Thank you.

[BillHoyt]

Originally posted by zakur
Spiking liver. I hate when that happens.

Now, now, the liver's gotta get itself ready for Olympics Beach Volleyball somehow.

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From the November 3, 2004, Montel Williams Show:WILLIAMS: Yes, ma'am? You have a question for Sylvia?

Unidentified Woman #13: Sylvia, I have a good friend of mine that just lost her hair for no reason. And I was wondering if you had an answer.

Ms. BROWNE: Lost what, honey?

Woman #13: She lost all her hair for no reason.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah. Alopecia. Yeah.

Woman #13: She's 52, though. Can you get that at 52?

Ms. BROWNE: Oh, sure. You can get that at any time, alopecia. Yeah. Now, the only thing that some doctors recommend is to check the thyroid, but even that, uh-uh. It's a hormonal thing.Unidentified Woman #14: Hi, Sylvia. Over the past seven years I've had nine knee surgery, and I've developed, like, arthrofibrosis. And they keep saying there's no cure for it. I can't bend my leg. Is there going to be a cure?

WILLIAMS: Sorry.

Ms. BROWNE: They're going to do some kind of implant.

Woman #14: Done it. I've done it.

Ms. BROWNE: No, no, no. This is going to be like an electrode, do you see what I'm saying, that's going to make it move.

Woman #14: I've had nine surgeries in 11 years, and...

Ms. BROWNE: Oh, that's crazy.

Woman #14: This is crazy. I can't bend my leg. And I'm like, you know, my whole life is gone.

Ms. BROWNE: I know. I know. Have you gone into physical therapy?

Woman #14: Oh, yes.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah. They are--within the next year and a half, they're going to have electrodes that they're going to put in, just like they will with Christopher...

Woman #14: So it's going to get better.

Ms. BROWNE: They're going to do that with Christopher Reeves and a lot of these people that, you know, can't move. You're going to see it.

I have a new book coming out called "The Prophecy for the Next 100 Years." Actually, he's the one that started that for me, because he kept asking me, `What's going to happen in the next 25 years? What's going to happen in the next 50 years?' And then when it got to 100 years, I couldn't see anything. So I said, `For the next 100 years.'

WILLIAMS: So does it have...

Woman #14: My leg...

WILLIAMS: No, go ahead.

Woman #14: No, sorry.

Ms. BROWNE: We're done after 100 years. We're done. We're gone.Yeah, too bad that electrode thingy didn't work out for Christopher "Reeves."

It's also too bad we'll all be extinct in 100 years. :rolleyes:

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The Montel Williams Show - October 27, 2004 Unidentified Woman #24: My husband comes home from work, and he always says his back hurts. But since I started going out with him, before I married him in 1992, he always said his back hurt. Is there something that he should get checked about?

Ms. BROWNE: No, his back just hurts.

Woman #24: OK.

Ms. BROWNE: He's got a bad back.

Woman #24: Should he go--should he get checked out by a doctor?

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah. But he has a bad back.

WILLIAMS: Does he exercise?

Woman #24: (Shakes head)

Ms. BROWNE: He really should exercise.

Woman #24: No, but it's physical-lifting work, truck driving, and he lifts...

WILLIAMS: Let me ask you this.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, but, honey, he should be doing stomach crunches, honestly.

WILLIAMS: Can I just ask a question? What's--what's his--how old is your husband?

Woman #24: Twenty-nine.

WILLIAMS: How big is his waist? What size pants does he wear?

Woman #24: Thirty-four, thirty-four.

WILLIAMS: Yeah, you got to tell your husband that he better start working on them abs.

Ms. BROWNE: And...

WILLIAMS: And he's how old?

Woman #24: Twenty-nine. He's almost 30.

WILLIAMS: And he lifts a lot of stuff?

Woman #24: Yes.

WILLIAMS: Cargo and stuff? That's his problem. He's probably doing it for a lot of the time. Most--and a lot of guys don't recognize this. You get more strength out of your abdominal, out of your stomach work...

Ms. BROWNE: Absolutely. Montel's right.

WILLIAMS: ...especially if you're lifting on a--as a construction worker, as a worker, more of your strength is going to come out of your stomach than out of your back. He's doing nothing but hurting his back every time he lifts something.

Ms. BROWNE: Exactly. My son had a bad back...

WILLIAMS: He needs to start doing some ab work...

Ms. BROWNE: ...and he tightened his abs...

WILLIAMS: ...tighten up that stomach...

Ms. BROWNE: ...and his back was fine.

WILLIAMS: ...and that back problem will go away. I'm 47, I had a back problem for 20 years. I don't do less than 600 sit-ups a day, and I never have a back problem.

Ms. BROWNE: That's right. That's what my son had to do.

WILLIAMS: Ever.

Woman #24: Thank you.

WILLIAMS: Yep.

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From the Oct. 20, Montel Williams show:WILLIAMS: Please welcome Kimberly to the show.

Kimberly? What did you want to--you wanted to ask Sylvia some questions about some pain you're experiencing, right? Talk to her. What did you want to ask her?

KIMBERLY (Feels Spirits Are Holding Her Down): Since about 1997, I've been having these episodes where my whole body will go numb. I feel paralyzed. I feel like someone or something is holding me down, and I cannot speak. Whenever I'm finally set free, it's like my body springs up, and my voice belts out into a yell.

You know, the first episode I had was in '97. My best friend, Nora, and I were spending the night at my mother's house, and she started, like, a ghostly type of a moan. I woke her up and thought she was having a dream, you know, and she explained to me what had happened to her. And I said, `Oh, you're crazy. You had a nightmare. Go back to sleep.' About 10 or 20 minutes later, the same thing happened to me.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, some of that's astral projection, but I'm really concerned about you having an MRI because I think you're having mini-seizures.

KIMBERLY: Really?

Ms. BROWNE: Yes.

WILLIAMS: How old are you?

KIMBERLY: Twenty-seven. Yeah, I have five children, so I have a lot of stress on my back, and..

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, but see--and--and it's very easy to control. This is not a death sentence, do you see what I'm saying, but you're having mini-seizures.

KIMBERLY: Right, but back to this astral projection thing, because that's what I've been--actually thought.

WILLIAMS: Darling, if I were you right this second, I'd be asking you let's talk about this seizure thing. Should I go to a doctor? Forget about astral projection.

Ms. BROWNE: Yes. Go to a neurologist, honey. Go to a neurologist.

KIMBERLY: Well, I am. I am. A neurologist.

Ms. BROWNE: Yes.

KIMBERLY: OK.

Ms. BROWNE: Now, the astral projection can make you feel like that, but you're having too many of these, do you see what I'm saying?

KIMBERLY: Right, so I have this knot, like, on the back of my head. Is there any significance? Would this be the neurology type of thing?

Ms. BROWNE: Yes. There is.

KIMBERLY: Would this knot--I've had it looked at...

WILLIAMS: How long has that knot been on the back of your head?

KIMBERLY: I've had it looked at actually by a neurologist. For--for about a year now.

WILLIAMS: And when did it--when did this blackout thing start?

KIMBERLY: And he told it was a type of fatty cyst and to go home.

WILLIAMS: When did these blackout things start?

KIMBERLY: '97.

Ms. BROWNE: Yeah, but see, a fatty cyst, I don't care what it is. It still could be pressing on a nerve.

KIMBERLY: Right.

Ms. BROWNE: And I wouldn't accept anything that a doctor said that didn't biopsy something or just say, `Just go home.'

KIMBERLY: He didn't, and I wanted him to.

Ms. BROWNE: Well, then go to another doctor.

KIMBERLY: OK.

Ms. BROWNE: Idiot doctors. Not all of them, but I mean...

[Dr Adequate]

Ms. BROWNE: You can't take iodine.

WILLIAMS: Go check it out.

MYRA: And my daughter, do you think she--that she would have the same problem?

Ms. BROWNE: Absolutely. It runs in the family.

MYRA: It does? And...

Ms. BROWNE: It's--and we have iodized salt, we have fish, we have tuna--I mean, you know, it's--it's--like Montel was saying in one show, it's--it's better than gluten. Gluten's in everything. I mean, at least you know where fish is or iodine is.

...

WILLIAMS: Go to a person who's an immunologist...

Ms. BROWNE: Yes. And check on your iodine.

WILLIAMS: ...who will then check and see--well, not even an immunologist. A person who determines whether or not you have allergies. So an allergy specialist.

Ms. BROWNE: Allergies. Allergist. Yeah.

MYRA: OK.

WILLIAMS: Have them test you for iodine allergy and then if it comes back, that means you have to start avoiding those things that have iodine in them...

MYRA: I sure will.
Just to make sure that her fans are literally cretins (http://www.encyclopedia.com/html/c1/cretinis.asp).

That's got to be the worst piece of medical advice I've ever heard.

Isn't this actually illegal? As in "practicing medicine without a license"?

[Goshawk]

Disclaimer: IANAL.

I would guess that her "out" for practicing medicine without a license, along with all the myriads of other people who also offer medical advice although they're not legally "doctors", is that she's not prescribing treatment or writing prescriptions, she's only offering "advice", and that the recipients aren't paying her for her services.

Just a guess.

[Nex]

After reading through this thread, I really want to put my fist through a wall.

I have nothing conducive to add to the conversation, I'm so mad I can barely type.

It's people like her that cause all this distrust in the professional medical community. How many people will have to become very sick or die because of this psychic and alt.med crap before they realize it's just that-- crap.

:mad: :mad: :mad: *rawr* :mad: :mad: :mad:


*OK thanks, I feel much better now.*

[Marian]

2052 of the California Business and Professions code states:

2052. (a) Notwithstanding Section 146, any person who practices or
attempts to practice, or who advertises or holds himself or herself
out as practicing, any system or mode of treating the sick or
afflicted in this state, or who diagnoses, treats, operates for, or
prescribes for any ailment, blemish, deformity, disease,
disfigurement, disorder, injury, or other physical or mental
condition of any person, without having at the time of so doing a
valid, unrevoked, or unsuspended certificate as provided in this
chapter or without being authorized to perform the act pursuant to a
certificate obtained in accordance with some other provision of law
is guilty of a public offense, punishable by a fine not exceeding ten
thousand dollars ($10,000), by imprisonment in the state prison, by
imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one year, or by both the
fine and either imprisonment.
(b) Any person who conspires with or aids or abets another to
commit any act described in subdivision (a) is guilty of a public
offense, subject to the punishment described in that subdivision.
(c) The remedy provided in this section shall not preclude any
other remedy provided by law.

Someone might consider refering this to the Medical Board of California.

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She might get off on a loophole if she states it's for entertainment purposes only before every performance.

[Lisa Simpson]

Originally posted by Marian



Someone might consider refering this to the Medical Board of California.

A couple of weeks ago, I was listening to Jamie and Danny on the radio, and they had a psychic on. This guy (http://www.garyspivey.com/). A listener called in, with a laundry list of problems. After a while, he tells her she's obsessive compulsive (wow, what insight!). And it's because she's demonically possesed. Then he says "imagine a golden light, traveling down from your head to your toes." She says okay. He tells her "the demon is gone." She asks, "will I still be obsessive?" He says no, the demon is gone.

I was sooooo mad. How dare he tell a person who is obviously troubled that she is now miraculously cured. I wish I had a tape of it to report to the CA Medical Board.

[Marian]

Originally posted by Lisa Simpson
A couple of weeks ago, I was listening to Jamie and Danny on the radio, and they had a psychic on. This guy (http://www.garyspivey.com/). A listener called in, with a laundry list of problems. After a while, he tells her she's obsessive compulsive (wow, what insight!). And it's because she's demonically possesed. Then he says "imagine a golden light, traveling down from your head to your toes." She says okay. He tells her "the demon is gone." She asks, "will I still be obsessive?" He says no, the demon is gone.

I was sooooo mad. How dare he tell a person who is obviously troubled that she is now miraculously cured. I wish I had a tape of it to report to the CA Medical Board.

Why would you need a tape? You have your memory to file a complaint, and I'm sure the station keeps tapes of episodes for quite some time after airing. Shouldn't be an issue for them to obtain a copy.

[Lisa Simpson]

I filled out a complaint form after reading this on Gary Spivey's website:

Gary is a Medical Intuitive/Spiritual Healer. He can see your health and do healings, which means he can tell you any problem you may be having medically as well as the ability to physically heal the problem.

We shall see what the Medical Board has to say. BTW, I couldn't find the "for entertainment purposes only" disclaimer anywhere on his website.

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Does this mean he's practicing medicine without a license?