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Agammamon
10th December 2003, 10:37 AM
Well a couple of weeks ago we had a sailor torch himself in his car or at least that was the initial report.
Back then I thought this has 3 probable causes, all bad but some worse than others (from "best" to worst).
1. Drunk/stoned, lit a cigarette, fell asleep and FOOM! What I had really expected the verdict to be.
2. Suicide - I really didn't give this one much credence since most sailors who kill themselves are depressed and death by fire is pretty rare in these cases.
3. Someone set him on fire.

The most recent info going around now is that there were two bodies pulled from the car. It wasn't their car.
To make it worse these two were supposedly a couple of guys who ratted on a smuggling ring operating off their boat. So it looks like option 3, the worst of them all by far.

Of course I have to say that all this info is getting to me third hand and I really don't know how much credence to give anything past someone got burned up.

Luke T.
10th December 2003, 10:50 AM
Any news reports that you have links to?

Jocko
10th December 2003, 10:56 AM
I'll be very surprised if you find they burned to death. More likely they had been disposed of in some other manner and the fire was a means to cover tracks long enough to buy some time.

My guess is a coroner will find two behind the ear on each corpse.

WildCat
10th December 2003, 11:07 AM
I also think that most likely they were killed first, as it is pretty easy to get out of a car fire, unless a crash rendered you unconscious or the gas tank was suddenly punctured.

But cars do burn, here's one (http://home.mindspring.com/~turniton/carfire02.jpg) in front of my apartment 2 weeks ago. I saw him driving up w/ a small flame underneath. He jumped out, and you can see what happened.

I had to find an excuse to link to that pic, one of the most unusual I ever took! ;)

Hexxenhammer
10th December 2003, 11:33 AM
Nice picture Wildcat.

Andonyx
10th December 2003, 12:15 PM
Hey WC, I know that intersection fairly well...

Mind if I send that link to some friends, or is that going to screw up your bandwidth?

Charlie Monoxide
10th December 2003, 01:20 PM
Nice picture Wildcat. I second that! Damn nice! The "Pour House" looks like an interesting spot to imbibe....

Charlie (Homer need beer) Monoxide

WildCat
10th December 2003, 01:22 PM
Originally posted by Andonyx
Hey WC, I know that intersection fairly well...

Mind if I send that link to some friends, or is that going to screw up your bandwidth?
Go ahead, my web space is capped but afaik my bandwidth isn't.

WildCat
10th December 2003, 01:24 PM
Originally posted by Charlie Monoxide
I second that! Damn nice! The "Pour House" looks like an interesting spot to imbibe....

Charlie (Homer need beer) Monoxide
Unfortunately it closed 2 years ago. I miss it! All the free peanuts you could eat to go w/ your draft beer. Nothing in a bottle, that's why it was the pour house.