Have you noticed this type of American propaganda?

[Huzington]

Have you noticed that the imperialist Western media, particlarly those of
America, call China capitalist when they speak of China's growth, and they
call China communist when they speak negatively about its policies, just
like the Nazis did with regard to the Soviet Union? Have you noticed that in
Imperialist history books on China, when talking about anything negative
about Chinese history (which they are so bent on focusing upon), they
refer to China as "Communist China", but when they wish to say anything
positive about China (though this is rare), they choose to simply call it
"China"? They almost never fail to do this. This is a very subtle, but
very effective, type of propaganda which the US imperialists in particlar
are wont to employ. It is effective because it associates in the minds of the
people the idea of Communism with negative things, and the idea of
Capitalism with positive things, and it does all this implicitly but most
efficiently.

We must stand up against U$ imperialist propaganda, and all the
other evils which are connected with Capitalism. Oppose and fight
against this haven of Imperialist aggression and tyranny, which
we so humbly call "America". As long as America continues to
sadistically hold down and subjugate the toiling masses, mankind
will always be in chains and can never be liberated from
oppression and exploitation. Death to America! http://www.ozemail.com.au/~micd/shoot.gifhttp://www.ozemail.com.au/~micd/patriot.gif

[Jude]

Shouldn't you be busy with defending your right to fondle children?

[Huzington]

Ah, so you haven't noticed this type of propaganda?

[American]

Originally posted by Huzington Death to America! http://www.ozemail.com.au/~micd/shoot.gifhttp://www.ozemail.com.au/~micd/patriot.gif


Whatever your motivation, in the year 2003 you need to understand the term "perceived threat" and what it means when you say such things in a place like this.

[geni]

Originally posted by American



Whatever your motivation, in the year 2003 you need to understand the term "perceived threat" and what it means when you say such things in a place like this.


Having just read the other threads he's started I think he first needs to understand the term reality.

[Huzington]

Originally posted by American



Whatever your motivation, in the year 2003 you need to understand the term "perceived threat" and what it means when you say such things in a place like this.

Was the excessive vagueness of that statement intentional?

[Jocko]

Originally posted by Huzington


Was the excessive vagueness of that statement intentional?

Probably no more so than your excessively inflammatory declaration was. And can there be any doubt that such a reaction is your intended result? You know, so you can feel threatened and oppressed, as is the communist way? Sheesh, you're like a battered wife who keeps going back to her drunk husband.

You shouldn't take American's words seriously. God knows we don't take YOURS seriously.

[Huzington]

Originally posted by Jocko


Probably no more so than your excessively inflammatory declaration was. And can there be any doubt that such a reaction is your intended result? You know, so you can feel threatened and oppressed, as is the communist way? Sheesh, you're like a battered wife who keeps going back to her drunk husband.

You shouldn't take American's words seriously. God knows we don't take YOURS seriously.

What do I personally have to do with American propaganda?
Stay on track, son. Enough of your diversions.

[Jocko]

Originally posted by Huzington


What do I personally have to do with American propaganda?
Stay on track, son. Enough of your diversions.

I never said you had anything to do with American propaganda. Your plate is quite full already with your own, anyone can see that. Carry on, comrade!

[geni]

Provide an example. And before you say that it proves haven't noticed the blatent US propaganda check my location.

[Evolver]

Originally posted by Huzington
Have you noticed that the imperialist Western media, particlarly those of
America, call China capitalist when they speak of China's growth, and they
call China communist when they speak negatively about its policies, just
like the Nazis did with regard to the Soviet Union? Have you noticed that in
Imperialist history books on China, when talking about anything negative
about Chinese history (which they are so bent on focusing upon), they
refer to China as "Communist China", but when they wish to say anything
positive about China (though this is rare), they choose to simply call it
"China"? They almost never fail to do this. This is a very subtle, but
very effective, type of propaganda which the US imperialists in particlar
are wont to employ. It is effective because it associates in the minds of the
people the idea of Communism with negative things, and the idea of
Capitalism with positive things, and it does all this implicitly but most
efficiently.

We must stand up against U$ imperialist propaganda, and all the
other evils which are connected with Capitalism. Oppose and fight
against this haven of Imperialist aggression and tyranny, which
we so humbly call "America". As long as America continues to
sadistically hold down and subjugate the toiling masses, mankind
will always be in chains and can never be liberated from
oppression and exploitation. Death to America!

No, I have never noticed any of the crap you mentioned. Who's propaganda are you reading?

While I have strong misgivings about the present regime driving the USA, I find your last comment to be highly offensive.

I do give you credit for creating a topic where I feel I must say to American, "Right on, Dude!"

[Huzington]

Originally posted by Evolver


No, I have never noticed any of the crap you mentioned.

Calling it names won't help

While I have strong misgivings about the present regime driving the USA, I find your last comment to be highly offensive.

I do not care about your feelings. They have nothing to do with
US imperialist propaganda, which is the subject of discussion

[American]

Originally posted by Huzington

Was the excessive vagueness of that statement intentional?


My opinion of your words doesn't matter to anyone. Others' opinions probably will.

[geni]

Originally posted by Huzington

I do not care about your feelings. They have nothing to do with
US imperialist propaganda, which is the subject of discussion

Once again provide an example.

[Jocko]

Originally posted by American



My opinion of your words doesn't matter to anyone. Others' opinions probably will.

Oh, don't feed the little guy's need to feel threatened by the big, evil imperialst US. After all, if he's threatened, he must be VERY important, right?

This is what happens when you can't shock your parents with tattoos and piercings any more. I'll lay odds he even joined a grunge band, hoping for some kind of attention. Next stop: a sex change in Sweden. STOP THE MADNESS!

I look at him like I would a child with tourette's. It's not his fault and you shouldn't take him seriously. I blame the parents. On the other hand, there's no good to come from enabling his delusions, either.

[Huzington]

Originally posted by geni


Once again provide an example.

An example of what?

[Evolver]

Originally posted by Huzington


Calling it names won't help



Neither will posting claims without references.

Originally posted by Huzington

I do not care about your feelings. They have nothing to do with
US imperialist propaganda, which is the subject of discussion

If you want a discussion, post with some rationality. If you post like a troll, you'll get treated like a troll.

[Ralph]

I have a hard time taking anyone that uses the word "imperialist" seriously.

[American]

When you say "Death to America!" in the context of ranting, that's called a warning sign, and if any violence followed there would be national outrage (at us) that people knew and did nothing about it.

[geni]

Originally posted by Huzington


An example of what?

Your original claim

[BTox]

Originally posted by Huzington
As long as America continues to
sadistically hold down and subjugate the toiling masses, mankind
will always be in chains and can never be liberated from
oppression and exploitation. Death to America! http://www.ozemail.com.au/~micd/shoot.gifhttp://www.ozemail.com.au/~micd/patriot.gif

Dang, there are more cranks on this board than you can shake a stick at. Is this place a kook magnet or what?

[Ed]

Originally posted by Ralph
I have a hard time taking anyone that uses the word "imperialist" seriously.

How about

"Lick spittle crypto-imperialist revisionists"?

:D

[Skeptic]

(yawn)

People, if this guy isn't a troll (which is 99.99% certain), he's insane. Either way, no point in replying to him...

[Ralph]

Originally posted by Ed


How about

"Lick spittle crypto-imperialist revisionists"?

:D

Now that's more like it........................you can never go wrong with "Yankee running dog capitalist swine" either though.

[Ed]

Originally posted by Ralph


Now that's more like it........................you can never go wrong with "Yankee running dog capitalist swine" either though.

Lacky, gotta work "lacky" in there somehow.

Interesting. Could you pass the Turing test using only flaccid commie slogans?

You: How are you today?

CyberCommie(tm): The sun is rising from the blood red sky of the east.

Y: Right, well, you hear the Dow broke 10k today?

CC(tm): The revolution will never cease.

Y: What, you don't like money?

CC(tm): The running dog lackeys of the USA will meet revolutionary justice!!

Y: (Yawn) Whatever.....

CC(tm): The oppressed workers will rise up and march, like a red tide to victory ...

Y: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

CC(tm): ... over the capitalistic class traitors who .......

God, do people really utter such unmitigated BS?

[RussDill]

Have you ever noticed your need to refer to any country that you don't like as "imperialists", but fail to attach that label to countries that you like, yet seek to annex land? I have never once heard you add the label "imperialist" to north korea, even though they wish to annex south korea. I'm not even sure what land the US is after, the schedule for giving control back to the Iraqi's keeps speeding up, as loss of american life their becomes increasingly less popular.

Interesting propaganda on your part.

[RussDill]

Originally posted by Skeptic
(yawn)

People, if this guy isn't a troll (which is 99.99% certain), he's insane. Either way, no point in replying to him...

The north korean news agencies certainly aren't trolls, and neither is kim jong il (even with his plan for triplets). There is a real element out there with a hate for capitalism, with a belief that only goverment can parent mankind.

[epepke]

I've noticed that the terms "Capitalism" and "Communism" have been so misused over the past few decades that they have lost so much meaning that only someone's deranged sock puppet would try to use them to show a logical contradiction.

Does that count?

[Gem]

I have never once heard you add the label "imperialist" to north korea, even though they wish to annex south korea.

Just a technicality here: People on both North and South Korea want a unified country. It's a bit like saying the Civil War Union wants to annex the South.

Similar also to China and Taiwan. However, Taiwan wants to become indepedent, so it would become an annexation.

Now, real annexation by the communists occured when the Soviets marched through East Europe.

Gem

[plindboe]

Huz,

you're an embarrasment to the left, and your trolling is counterproductive. You need to grow up.

[Huzington]

Originally posted by RussDill
Have you ever noticed your need to refer to any country that you don't like as "imperialists", but fail to attach that label to countries that you like, yet seek to annex land? I have never once heard you add the label "imperialist" to north korea, even though they wish to annex south korea. I'm not even sure what land the US is after, the schedule for giving control back to the Iraqi's keeps speeding up, as loss of american life their becomes increasingly less popular.

Interesting propaganda on your part.

News flash: The vast majority of south Koreans want to annex with north Korea as well; and the north Koreans want to do this
by peaceful means. For more info: http://www.korea-dpr.com/march04.htm

[RussDill]

Originally posted by Huzington


News flash: The vast majority of south Koreans want to annex with north Korea as well; and the north Koreans want to do this
by peaceful means. For more info: http://www.korea-dpr.com/march04.htm

*Thats* a reliable source of information. I think thats the same site that touts the medicale miracle stone. And anyway, it has nothing to do with your point. The south most definately does not want to reunify under Kim Jong Il's government. They do not want the unification that the north wants. The unification would want to unify under a government more like the south korean government. Their family and friends are across the border starving, not for lack of food, but because of a brutal dictator, of course they want to help

[ktesibios]

Originally posted by Ed


Lacky, gotta work "lacky" in there somehow.



"The old man brightened again.

‘Lackeys!’ he said. ‘Now there’s a word I ain’t ’eard since ever so long. Lackeys! That reg’lar takes me back, that does. I recollect oh, donkey’s years ago — I used to sometimes go to ’Yde Park of a Sunday afternoon to ’ear the blokes making speeches. Salvation Army, Roman Catholics, Jews, Indians — all sorts there was. And there was one bloke — well, I couldn’t give you ’is name, but a real powerful speaker ’e was. ’E didn’t ’alf give it ’em! “Lackeys!” ’e says, “lackeys of the bourgeoisie! Flunkies of the ruling class!” Parasites — that was another of them. And ’yenas — ’e definitely called ’em ’yenas. Of course ’e was referring to the Labour Party, you understand.’ "

-Geroge Orwell, Nineteen Eighty-Four:book:

[Ralph]

Originally posted by Ed


Lacky, gotta work "lacky" in there somehow.

Interesting. Could you pass the Turing test using only flaccid commie slogans?

You: How are you today?

CyberCommie(tm): The sun is rising from the blood red sky of the east.

Y: Right, well, you hear the Dow broke 10k today?

CC(tm): The revolution will never cease.

Y: What, you don't like money?

CC(tm): The running dog lackeys of the USA will meet revolutionary justice!!

Y: (Yawn) Whatever.....

CC(tm): The oppressed workers will rise up and march, like a red tide to victory ...

Y: zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

CC(tm): ... over the capitalistic class traitors who .......

God, do people really utter such unmitigated BS?

Of course..(banging heel of palm against forehead)...how can one possibly engage in meaniful Marxist dialogue with tossing in a few "lackeys".

What about "stooges".................that's another good one.

"Crypto-revisionist" is fine for college students like Huzington who are just trying to let chicks know they're hip.

It won't raise a decent fart out of some poor schmuck who's working 12 hour days on a turnip collective.

For him you need something like " throwing off the oppressive yoke of the jackbooted,war-mongering,imperialist, stooges."......

[Skeptic]

The north korean news agencies certainly aren't trolls, and neither is kim jong il (even with his plan for triplets).

But "Huzington" is. As for the North Koreans, they fall under the "insane" category.

By the way, I TRIED to read Mao's "little red book"... I've never read such nonsense in my life.

[Ed]

Originally posted by Ralph



What about "stooges".................that's another good one.

"Crypto-revisionist" is fine for college students like Huzington who are just trying to let chicks know they're hip.


..

True, I was flashing back to when Gore Videl called William Buckley a "crypto-nazi" and Buckley said Buckley said something like "if you call me a nazi again, you goddam faggot, I'll knock your teeth down your throat" or something like that.

I also find it interesting that the "workers" chose their country over some silly notion of "worker solidarity" at the outset of WW1. This illustrates a point that I have made repeatedly to Ian, that evidence trumps some silly logic or in this case some absurd ideology.

Yours in solidarity, comrad.:D

[Frank Newgent]

http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/san232s/hardfunnypics/threadmonkeyrobot.gif

thanks LeFevre

[LFTKBS]

Huz - welcome back; I like that you've started ten threads in the last two days. I am also certain that you will abandon these threads after being shown that you're wrong - as you having the past - because you are a coward.

Let's rewind to the thread "Kim Jong Il is a genius," shall we? Here's my post that you never bothered replying to:

"Let me be frank here and risk gettting "reported" by saying first that you are dumb. I never said Canada was a bastion of free speech; on the contrary, I find that most industrialized countries have pretty awful histories of protected speech, including the United States and Canada. Canada's Hate Law is clearly at odds with the spirit of free speech, and the United States government is often opposed to the same thing. I know of exactly zero countries that score 100% on the LFTKBS Free Speech Index.

However, just because no countries fully support what should be a fundamental human right does not prove or support your point.

Canada's Hate Law is inherently undemocratic. The Sedition Act? Undemocratic. USA PATRIOT Act? Undemocratic.

Now, answer my question: you claim to support democracy, yet find the restriction of speech to be an acceptable solution to certain dilemmas. This is illogical. Either a) you have a profoundly ignorant idea of what democracy is supposed to be, b) you have no idea what you're talking about, or c) you're a troll.

A lot of people on the forum are saying c; I happen to think a & b. We'll find out eventually, so keep those posts a-comin'!"

P.S. Don't forget to not reply.

[Badger]

Frank, that's not a picture of a monkey humping a robot.

That's a picture from an experiment on bonding. The monkey has been raised with that "robot", as the caption reads, as its mother. It has nipples that secrete milk, and a heated cloth covering. In the background of the picture is an alternative mother, made of wire, also with nipples. Some monkeys were raised with that as their "mother".

The monkey in this picture has just been startled, and has run to, and clung to its "mother" for protection.

Monkeys raised in isolation, with only these pseudo parents to interact with do not adapt well to exposure to other monkeys.

I've seen film of this experiment a few times, and I find it really disturbing to watch terrified little monkeys clinging to wire parental representations, when exposed to a group of normally behaved siblings.

This digression has nothing to do with the thread, but apparently, neither does the thread's author.

[gaaaaaaaaarrrr]

Huzington, you so crazy!

[Troll]

Originally posted by Frank Newgent
http://www.student.smsu.edu/s/san232s/hardfunnypics/threadmonkeyrobot.gif

thanks LeFevre

Is that from Harlow's experiment?

[Troll]

Originally posted by Huzington
Have you noticed that the imperialist Western media, particlarly those of
America, call China capitalist when they speak of China's growth, and they
call China communist when they speak negatively about its policies, just
like the Nazis did with regard to the Soviet Union? Have you noticed that in
Imperialist history books on China, when talking about anything negative
about Chinese history (which they are so bent on focusing upon), they
refer to China as "Communist China", but when they wish to say anything
positive about China (though this is rare), they choose to simply call it
"China"? They almost never fail to do this. This is a very subtle, but
very effective, type of propaganda which the US imperialists in particlar
are wont to employ. It is effective because it associates in the minds of the
people the idea of Communism with negative things, and the idea of
Capitalism with positive things, and it does all this implicitly but most
efficiently.

We must stand up against U$ imperialist propaganda, and all the
other evils which are connected with Capitalism. Oppose and fight
against this haven of Imperialist aggression and tyranny, which
we so humbly call "America". As long as America continues to
sadistically hold down and subjugate the toiling masses, mankind
will always be in chains and can never be liberated from
oppression and exploitation. Death to America! http://www.ozemail.com.au/~micd/shoot.gifhttp://www.ozemail.com.au/~micd/patriot.gif

Works both ways doesn't it?

[RussDill]

Originally posted by Skeptic
The north korean news agencies certainly aren't trolls, and neither is kim jong il (even with his plan for triplets).

But "Huzington" is. As for the North Koreans, they fall under the "insane" category.

By the way, I TRIED to read Mao's "little red book"... I've never read such nonsense in my life.

Did you know that kim jong il has chairman Mao's magic box?

http://www.livejournal.com/~kim_jong_il__/4660.html

[Zep]

Such a FUNNY guy that Huzington is! I mean, one could be forgiven for thinking he is a troll or something, but it's just TOO realistic to be that.

:rolleyes:

[the_ignored]

Originally posted by Huzington


What do I personally have to do with American propaganda?
Stay on track, son. Enough of your diversions.
Ok, here's a diversion for you...Tiennamen Square. Remember?

At least the yank gov't doesn't run over it's own student with tanks, and threatens all out war with some other country because they (Taiwan) wants to be separate from them.

This has GOT to be a put on. Hell, I should send this idiots' posts to Ann Coulter (http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=1462)! For once in her life, she'd REALLY have something to bitch about...

[Nasarius]

Is this perhaps JK born again as an extreme leftist?

*sigh* Tis a sad day for this forum...

[Huzington]

Originally posted by the_ignored

Ok, here's a diversion for you...Tiennamen Square. Remember?

At least the yank gov't doesn't run over it's own student with tanks, and threatens all out war with some other country because they (Taiwan) wants to be separate from them.

This has GOT to be a put on. Hell, I should send this idiots' posts to Ann Coulter (http://www.shopnetdaily.com/store/item.asp?ITEM_ID=1462)! For once in her life, she'd REALLY have something to bitch about...

Tiennamen Square was a tragedy. I completely supported those
student protesters in their opposition to the tyranny of state-
capitalist China.

[DialecticMaterialist]

In regards to that type of propaganda, quite frankly "no".