Alex Jones and the Obama "Joker" Poster

[Dumb All Over]

From yesterday's Orlando Sentinel comes this story (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-bk-obama-joker-suspect-081309,0,4959018.story) about the Obama Joker posters. The article begins by showing a picture of one of the posters plastered in a public place. At the bottom of the poster you can clearly see "infowars.com". I have to wonder whether Alex Jones is simply jumping on someone else's bandwagon or if he had more to do with the original posters that started popping up in L.A.

Note: It may very well be that this is not the most appropriate section of the forum to post this, but since Alex Jones is our most favorite goofy troofy, I thought I'd try here first.

[Brainster]

More discussion as well as a claim that it's Jones behind the posters here (http://www.examiner.com/x-1551-Fringe-Culture-Examiner~y2009m8d14-Obama-Joker-poster-designer-claims-authorship-starts-contest).

My guess is that Alex did not originate the posters, but he did use them to advertise his website (and is having a contest with a $1000 prize for putting them up).

[Dumb All Over]

My guess is that Alex did not originate the posters, but he did use them to advertise his website (and is having a contest with a $1000 prize for putting them up).
This would be my guess, too. The posters in Florida look like black and white photocopies of the original.

The article mentions that the Clermont Police have interviewed an unnamed suspect. It would be too much to ask if the suspect is, in fact, Alex Jones.

[Thunder]

i actually like the posters. it associates nutty Obama-haters with Alex Jones and his insanity.

just like Birthers....Jones and his truthers are a gift to moderates like myself.

[Horatius]

My guess is that Alex did not originate the posters, but he did use them to advertise his website (and is having a contest with a $1000 prize for putting them up).



Yep. There's no way Alex would have missed the branding opportunity in the first wave of posters. He's just bandwagonning something that became popular.

[Edx]

I dont know if this has been posted before but in case anyone hasnt seen it.

G_XF0y5VE0E

WOW.

KOO KOO

:wide-eyed

[fullflavormenthol]

I dont know if this has been posted before but in case anyone hasnt seen it.

G_XF0y5VE0E

WOW.

KOO KOO

:wide-eyed
http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/243294a88cc8fe1e4f.jpg

[Ohnoes]

Those who guessed that Alex had nothing to do with the concept of the posters....Were right!

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2009/08/obama_joker_artist_revealed.html?ft=1&f=103943429/

It wasn't Alkhateeb, by the way, who added the word "socialism" to the image and turned it into posters that started showing up several weeks ago around Los Angeles. That was the work of someone who found his original image -- a takeoff on a Time cover -- and expanded on it.

It would seem that Alex grabbed it up and gave no credit....Surprise Surprise!:jaw-dropp

[Grizzly Bear]

I dont know if this has been posted before but in case anyone hasnt seen it.

G_XF0y5VE0E

WOW.

KOO KOO

:wide-eyed

I stopped 30-seconds in... the AJ laugh and the creepy music... told me that it would be 9 minutes of mental breakdown if it were a ton of alex jones dosages.

[D'rok]

I think this about sums up AJ:

http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fv%2F06CvUjL gK5g&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D TMQLLqiKaas

[Horatius]

I think this about sums up AJ:

http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fv%2F06CvUjL gK5g&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3D TMQLLqiKaas



You couldn't find a video of a braying jackass? Other than Jones, I means.

[D'rok]

You couldn't find a video of a braying jackass? Other than Jones, I means.

Ask and ye shall receive:

http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3 DUbtehzxpIH4&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fv%2FTMQLLqiK aas
(http://www.youtubedoubler.com/?video1=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3 DP1Zibtvqnis&video2=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fv%2FTMQLLqiK aas)

[Horatius]

That's the stuff!

[Brainster]

So the guy who originally came up with the poster is a Palestinian? Who would have voted for Dennis Kucinich?

[Nosi]

Is it just me or does that Obama/Joker have unpleasant racist shades on top of sinister political overtones? It looks like"Blackface" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackface) make up that was oh so popular around the less enlightened days of the 1930's.

[Fishstick]

So the guy who originally came up with the poster is a Palestinian? Who would have voted for Dennis Kucinich?

Freepers' heads can be heard popping.

[Nosi]

Freepers' heads can be heard popping.

Post that on that website, a whole lot of fun could be had...
:id:

[Oliver]

I dont know if this has been posted before but in case anyone hasnt seen it.

G_XF0y5VE0E

WOW.

KOO KOO

:wide-eyed


Joker-like psychopath ranting about Joker-like psychopath. Comedy gold.

[chillzero]

So ... if someone else created these posters .... yet Alex is using them to advertise .... doesn't that make him in breach of copyright laws? Doesn't he owe someone wads of cash for using their posters?

[Oliver]

So ... if someone else created these posters .... yet Alex is using them to advertise .... doesn't that make him in breach of copyright laws? Doesn't he owe someone wads of cash for using their posters?


Someone like the Time Magazine that owns the copyrights to the original Obama photograph? ;)


Eta: http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com/2009/08/obama-joker-los-angeles.html

[KingMerv00]

The Painter's avatar. Blech.

[jakesteele]

I dont know if this has been posted before but in case anyone hasnt seen it.

G_XF0y5VE0E

WOW.

KOO KOO

:wide-eyed

:jaw-droppWow, that was so far over the top, I actually thought it was pretty cool. He had a good cadence and flow of rhetoric that reminded me of a televangelist on a roll. At times I got the feeling that he was satirizing his own image and was actually laughing all the way to the bank like he said Obama was laughing at us.

It was a taut, psychological thriller in the grand tradition of Alfred Hitchcock. I laughed, I cried, I stood to my feet and cheered at his utter brilliance and audacity. I give it at least two thumbs up.

[Nosi]

But what if he BELIEVES all his...AHEM?

[Horatius]

So ... if someone else created these posters .... yet Alex is using them to advertise .... doesn't that make him in breach of copyright laws? Doesn't he owe someone wads of cash for using their posters?

Someone like the Time Magazine that owns the copyrights to the original Obama photograph? ;)


Eta: http://mikephilbin.blogspot.com/2009/08/obama-joker-los-angeles.html



The altered picture would probably be considered a derivative work, (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derivative_work) for which licensing might be a bit complicated, but AJ's use is pretty much a straight rip-off.


US Copyright Office Circular 14: Derivative Works notes that:

A typical example of a derivative work received for registration in the Copyright Office is one that is primarily a new work but incorporates some previously published material. This previously published material makes the work a derivative work under the copyright law. To be copyrightable, a derivative work must be different enough from the original to be regarded as a "new work" or must contain a substantial amount of new material. Making minor changes or additions of little substance to a preexisting work will not qualify the work as a new version for copyright purposes. The new material must be original and copyrightable in itself. Titles, short phrases, and format, for example, are not copyrightable.

[Axiom_Blade]

WOW.

KOO KOO

:wide-eyed

There's some Grade A nightmare fuel!

[Latitude]

That video is hilarious, but what's with the pimp and slapping bitches comments? Is this in reference to something or is he actually just using racial stereotypes to get his point across?