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Galileo
14th August 2009, 08:51 PM
Galileo's Dream by Kim Stanley Robinson
Adam Roberts hails a return to form
Adam Roberts
The Guardian, Saturday 15 August 2009
The best candidate for the first science fiction novel is a short book by the astronomer Johannes Kepler, known as Kepler's Dream (1634): a weirdly potent mix of up-to-date (for the 17th century) lunar science and imagined monstrous alien life. Kim Stanley Robinson's new novel pays elegant homage to the genre's Ur-text, fleshing out and extrapolating its premises by taking as protagonist Kepler's contemporary Galileo Galilei - the man whose discoveries did more to kick-start modern science than anybody before Newton.
Buy Galileo's Dream at the Guardian bookshop Two-thirds of the novel is a scrupulously researched and brilliantly effective historical tale dramatising Galileo's life and times; the remainder is set among the colonised moons of Jupiter in the year 3020. Alien life has been encountered beneath Europa's ice; it may be benign or it may pose a terrible threat to Jovian human society. By means of temporal entanglement (with just a little Robinsonian hand-waving), Galileo is brought "proleptically" forward to lend his prestige to the debate over what to do. Once you accept this premise, there's nothing to do but admire how neatly Robinson weaves together the two narrative lines. As the historical Galileo increasingly incurs the anger of the Inquisition, the story acquires a powerful and near-tragic sense of inevitability. At the same time, we read on eager to find out what happens next in the 31st century, and how the two storylines fit together. It is all very skilfully handled.
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/books/2009/aug/15/galileos-dream-kim-stanley-robinson
Good job, Galileo, sounds like a pretty good book. I plan to snap up a copy. Will scope out the local bookstore and see if I can spot a copy. Hope the rest of the crew here finds this post a good read.
Chase_the_Bass
14th August 2009, 09:02 PM
I remember see this in the Aug 1 New Scientist. Sounds pretty interesting and I plan on picking up a copy as well.
Ysidro
14th August 2009, 09:09 PM
Sorry, but that book is written about the other Galileo. Not the JREF troll who pretends to be the historical one.
Who cares about another crappy pseudo-historical drama anyway?
Galileo
14th August 2009, 09:10 PM
I remember see this in the Aug 1 New Scientist. Sounds pretty interesting and I plan on picking up a copy as well.
Thank you. If you google 'Galileo's Dream by Kim Stanley Robinson' a lot of interesting reviews come up. The author seems to have a vivd imagination.
Galileo
14th August 2009, 09:13 PM
Sorry, but that book is written about the other Galileo. Not the JREF troll who pretends to be the historical one.
Who cares about another crappy pseudo-historical drama anyway?
This is an absolutely brilliant piece of science fiction and undoubtedly the best science fiction novel I have read this year. Well worth every penny.
This astonishing novel attempts to reconcile contemporary theories about time, space, and the nature of the universe with Galileo's 17th-century discoveries of the first laws of physics. As if that weren't enough, it also explores human fear of change; socio-political power struggles; the relationships between religion, science and philosophy; gender politics and psychology. That it does all this within the space of a single book is testament to the author's overarching imagination and intelligence.
source:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Galileos-Dream-Kim-Stanley-Robinson/dp/0007260318
I am not a troll. I am Galileo, the Truthseeker.
Ysidro
14th August 2009, 11:27 PM
source:
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Galileos-Dream-Kim-Stanley-Robinson/dp/0007260318
I am not a troll. I am Galileo, the Truthseeker.
Sure you are.
I'm Spartacus.
Galileo
15th August 2009, 07:06 AM
Sure you are.
I'm Spartacus.
No, you lie, you are Ysidro.
Can you make an intelligent comment about the book? Can you handle a book with a complex plot?
I Ratant
15th August 2009, 08:15 AM
Sure you are.
I'm Spartacus.
I'm Spartacus!
Akhenaten
15th August 2009, 09:00 AM
I'm Spartacus!
I'm not.
hgc
15th August 2009, 10:17 AM
He's not the messiah. He's a very naughty boy.
TexasJack
15th August 2009, 10:25 AM
This is fiction, just like the posts of our resident truther.
Akhenaten
15th August 2009, 11:03 AM
<snip>
Galileo is brought "proleptically" forward to lend his prestige to the debate over what to do.
Follow the gourd.
asmodean
15th August 2009, 01:44 PM
I'm Spartacus!
I'm Spartacus, and so is my wife!
Galileo
15th August 2009, 06:27 PM
This is fiction, just like the posts of our resident truther.
I am not truther, I am a truth-seeker, and a very good one at that. I'm famous.
Galileo
15th August 2009, 06:29 PM
I'm Spartacus, and so is my wife!
I don't believe you.
But if a JREF rebellion ever occurred, and the JREFers took over the government, it would be much like the days of Spartacus.
Can you comment on the book, instead of just making smart-a** comments?
Akhenaten
15th August 2009, 06:41 PM
I don't believe you.
But if a JREF rebellion ever occurred, and the JREFers took over the government, it would be much like the days of Spartacus.
Can you comment on the book, instead of just making smart-a** comments?
I can do both.
It's rubbish
A smart a** would be an invaluable aid to a prospector in remote country.
Akhenaten
15th August 2009, 06:45 PM
I am not truther, I am a truth-seeker, and a very good one at that. I'm famous.
I was famous before the country in which the ancestral home of your ancestors' ancestors was founded existed even as a distant dream.
Get some time up, little one.
Ysidro
15th August 2009, 09:02 PM
We are all a little bit Spartacus.
But I'm more Spartacus than most.
Jimbo07
15th August 2009, 10:15 PM
Who cares about another crappy pseudo-historical drama anyway?
Even one written by Kim Stanley Robinson?
Looks like one I might pick up...
Akhenaten
16th August 2009, 07:18 AM
Even one written by Kim Stanley Robinson?
Looks like one I might pick up...
Unfortunately, the poor book appears to have become a bit secondary to the discussion. It's not its fault.
Does it look any good? I don't know the author's work, I'm afraid.
Cheers,
Dave
I Ratant
16th August 2009, 09:35 AM
Unfortunately, the poor book appears to have become a bit secondary to the discussion. It's not its fault.
Does it look any good? I don't know the author's work, I'm afraid.
Cheers,
Dave
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She's a good writer, it's too bad what's his name with his problem saw it.
Sword_Of_Truth
16th August 2009, 01:35 PM
Can you comment on the book, instead of just making smart-a** comments?
No, we can't comment on the book because this thread isn't about the book. The claim that is being discussed here is that the book was written about a JREF forum member.
So far, absolutely no evidence has been presented to support that claim.
jhunter1163
16th August 2009, 01:51 PM
The rest of you guys can be Spartacus. Call me Ishmael.
TexasJack
16th August 2009, 01:58 PM
I don't want to be Spartacus.
Ryokan
16th August 2009, 02:01 PM
I'm Brian, and so is my wife!
Ysidro
17th August 2009, 02:50 AM
Even one written by Kim Stanley Robinson?
Looks like one I might pick up...
Oh great, a book by a decent author has been tainted by one of our resident crazies.
Oh well, I have plenty of other things to read.
DC
17th August 2009, 02:55 AM
Galileo, in case you are not just trolling. and really Belive or "know" you are the real Galileo.
Talk about it with your Doctor.
timhau
17th August 2009, 03:51 AM
I am not truther, I am a truth-seeker, and a very good one at that. I'm famous.
And a friend of mine has a cat who is the King of Rock'n'Roll.
asmodean
17th August 2009, 06:58 AM
I don't believe you.
But if a JREF rebellion ever occurred, and the JREFers took over the government, it would be much like the days of Spartacus.
Can you comment on the book, instead of just making smart-a** comments?
Of course. The book will most likely be good, I've been a fan of Robinson since his RGB-Mars series.
Your delusion about being Galileo is bats**t insane.
Humanzee
18th August 2009, 07:08 PM
How Marius Was Right and Galileo Was Wrong Even Though Galileo Was Right and Marius Was Wrong
http://adsabs.harvard.edu/abs/2009arXiv0903.3429G
arthwollipot
18th August 2009, 07:19 PM
Does it look any good? I don't know the author's work, I'm afraid. I couldn't stand the only KSR book that I started to read (Red Mars). That isn't a good start for me. I'd consider reading this one simply because it's about Galileo.
Piscivore
18th August 2009, 07:25 PM
I was famous before the country in which the ancestral home of your ancestors' ancestors was founded existed even as a distant dream.
Get some time up, little one.
Please... I've been around since the Ordovician period.
RoboTimbo
18th August 2009, 07:28 PM
Thank you. If you google 'Galileo's Dream by Kim Stanley Robinson' a lot of interesting reviews come up. The author seems to have a vivd imagination.
Which chapter delves into Galileo's internet posting history?
dudalb
20th August 2009, 03:12 PM
TIme to cue in some Queen, folks.......
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