Weapons of American terrorism: clustet bombs

[Huzington]

http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/weapons/ClusterBombs.html

"People are decapitated, arms, legs, hands and feet are severed from their bodies-? anyone and anything alive in the immediate vicinity is shredded into a bloody mess.

'Picture yourself, your girlfriend or boyfriend, your wife or husband, and your children reduced to dismembered body parts by the United States military, and you'll have a clue as to what unfortunate people around the world have experienced since the Vietnam Genocide.

'Cluster bombs were used by American/NATO forces to brutally murder civilian people all over Yugoslavia in 1999 and Afghanistan in 2001. American/British forces have used cluster bombs against the civilian people of Iraq from 1991 to the present day. Millions of cluster bombs were dropped on the civilian people of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia during the viciously racist genocide known as 'the Vietnam War.'

Used by the United States military since the Vietnam Genocide, cluster bombs are among the most indiscriminate weapons in their arsenal. These bombs not only cause physical suffering and loss - they also severely hinder agricultural and economic development of the land, many years into the future. Villagers are terrified to work on land they know is littered with unexploded cluster bombs.

This is what the United States Air Force and Navy have done to the people and land of Laos, Cambodia, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Afghanistan and Iraq.

Every year hundreds of people in these lands - including many children - are murdered and maimed for life by American cluster bombs that have become land mines.

This is why the U.S. Corporate Mafia Government refuses to sign a treaty for the elimination of land mines. It knows that if it signed such a treaty it would be effectively agreeing to end its use of cluster bombs.

Images (warning: graphic)

'A dead little Iraqi girl in Basra with a pile of corpses in background. These are your fellow human beings, literally butchered to death by American pilots who dropped cluster bombs on them':

http://free.freespeech.org/americanstateterrorism/iraqgenocide/Genocide2gfx/ManCarriesDeadGirl.jpg

How can anyone support these fiends?

[BTox]

Originally posted by Huzington

How can anyone support these fiends?

Stalin, Mao and Lenin: 60,000,000 killed. Fiends indeed!

[Ed]

Damn "clustet" bombs. If they would have used cluster bombs all would have been cool.

[Grammatron]

Don't look now Huzington but there are two mass murderers in your avatar!

P.S. From now on this will be my reply to each of your posts unless they actually have substance though I'm not holding my breath on that one.

[DialecticMaterialist]

It's called a war pal. It's not supposed to be nice. If it was nice, we'd have one once a week for pay-per-view. In any event, did we use any on Iraqi cities? Or on any residential areas?

Also how do you know the girl in that picture died of a cluster bomb?

[Huzington]

Originally posted by BTox


Stalin, Mao and Lenin: 60,000,000 killed. Fiends indeed!

Ignoring the fact that they did not kill even a million people, what do Lenin, Stalin, and Mao have to do with America's weapons of terrorism?

Stupid, bloodthirsty American.

:rolleyes:

[Huzington]

Originally posted by DialecticMaterialist
It's called a war pal. It's not supposed to be nice.

Ah, so that's how you Americans justify terrorism and genocide and plunder and some of the worst atrocities of the 20th century. :rolleyes:

[BTox]

Originally posted by Huzington
Stupid, bloodthirsty American.


60,000,000 dead. That's a fact, jack.

[Ed]

Clustet Bomb Souffle
From: arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva)
Date: Mon, 2 Aug 93 2:36:51 CDT



4 egg yolks
1 cup unsweetened clustet bombs
1/3 cup sugar
3 tablespoon milk
1 tablespoon brandy
4 egg whites
unsweetened whipped cream

In a small mixer bowl beat egg yolks till thick and lemon colored, about
5 minutes; set aside. In a small mixer bowl beat the clustet bomb puree, sugar, milk,
and brandy till smooth. Beat in egg yolks till well combined. Wash beaters
thoroughly. In a large mixer bowl beat egg whites till stiff peaks form.
Fold the beaten whites into the clustet bomb mixture. Turn into an ungreased
1 1/2 quart souffle dish. Bake in a 350F oven for 35 to 40 minutes. Serve
immediately. Top with unsweetened whipped cream. Makes 4 servings.


Explosively Delicious

[Grammatron]

Originally posted by BTox


60,000,000 dead. That's a fact, jack.

Now, now BTox, if you are going to call it a fact you must be accurate. The figure is around 60,000,000 it could in fact be more, now that's a fact.

[BTox]

Originally posted by Ed
Clustet Bomb Souffle
Explosively Delicious

:D

I also hear clustet bombs make wonderful enemas - squeaky clean!

[Huzington]

What does any of that have to do with America's war crimes?
Nothing.

Typical, all too predictable Yankees with your red herrings and
other such diversions, and your laughable attempts at justifying
some of the worst atrocities in history :rolleyes:

[BTox]

Originally posted by Grammatron


Now, now BTox, if you are going to call it a fact you must be accurate. The figure is around 60,000,000 it could in fact be more, now that's a fact.

Yes, that is true. How about 60,000,000 +/- 10,000,000?

[Grammatron]

Originally posted by Huzington
What does any of that have to do with America's war crimes?
Nothing.

Typical, all too predictable Yankees with your red herrings and
other such diversions, and your laughable attempts at justifying
some of the worst atrocities in history :rolleyes:

Well, because it's not a proven "war crime" unlike those committed by the "red herrings" in your avatar.

[Ed]

Originally posted by BTox


:D

I also hear clustet bombs make wonderful enemas - squeaky clean!

I said "Explosive" did I not?:D

[BTox]

Originally posted by Huzington
Typical, all too predictable Yankees with your red herrings and
other such diversions, and your laughable attempts at justifying
some of the worst atrocities in history :rolleyes:

Hey Huz, why does Stalin have such a small cranial volume, especially compared to Lenin - take a close look at your avatar. He looks almost Cro Magnum. Was he really microcephalic?

[DialecticMaterialist]

Originally posted by Huzington


Ah, so that's how you Americans justify terrorism and genocide and plunder and some of the worst atrocities of the 20th century. :rolleyes:

No. We justify our war efforts by saving millions of people, or at least making an effort to, from totalitarian/authoritarian rule.

Your use of the words "terrorism" and genocide are also so vague as to be meaingless and at odds with most experts in both fields.

BTW, this only begs the question of how you justify even more ruethless war, and actual terrorist efforts of communist factions, who fight not for freedom but totalitarianism.

[Huzington]

Originally posted by DialecticMaterialist
[B]No. We justify our war efforts by saving millions of people, or at least making an effort to, from totalitarian/authoritarian rule.[/]b]

Saving civilians? Like the children and women you raped and
blew to smithereens in Vietnam? Like the children and women you
blew to pieces in Korea for wanting a worker's democracy, until
there was "no targets left" in the words of one American war
criminal? Like the north Koreans you have attempted to starve
into submission for years? Or the Iraqis, whom you essentially
committed another genocide against? Atomic-holocaust in Japan?
Belgrade? American-owned death camps in Cuba? Installation of
Pinochet and other brutal dictators? American activity in Nepal &
Peru? Support of monster Saddam Hussein? And the list goes
on and on.

Please! :rolleyes:

[c0rbin]

Where are you from, Huzington?

[DialecticMaterialist]

Originally posted by Huzington


Saving civilians? Like the children and women you raped and
blew to smithereens in Vietnam? Like the children and women you
blew to pieces in Korea for wanting a worker's democracy, until
there was "no targets left" in the words of one American war
criminal? Like the north Koreans you have attempted to starve
into submission for years? Or the Iraqis, whom you essentially
committed another genocide against? Atomic-holocaust in Japan?
Belgrade? American-owned death camps in Cuba? Installation of
Pinochet and other brutal dictators? American activity in Nepal &
Peru? Support of monster Saddam Hussein? And the list goes
on and on.

Please! :rolleyes:

No like the people of South Korea, who today make 20 times as much money as the average north korean.

[Jessica Blue]

Originally posted by DialecticMaterialist
It's called a war pal. It's not supposed to be nice. If it was nice, we'd have one once a week for pay-per-view. In any event, did we use any on Iraqi cities? Or on any residential areas?
But you're not supposed to be at war with the Iraqi people are you? Why are cluster bombs necessary in a war of liberation? Cluster bombs don't discriminate between civilians and terrorists and go on killing after the war is over. And they were used in residential areas DM.

Trolling aside, criticism of the extensive use of cluster bombs in Iraq is fair enough. Many of them were old cluster munitions, used by US ground forces, which can leave unexploded bomblets capable of detonation anytime after deployment.

According to this report from USA Today:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/iraq/2003-12-10-cluster-bomb-cover_x.htm

A four-month examination by USA TODAY of how cluster bombs were used in the Iraq war found dozens of deaths that were unintended but predictable. Although U.S. forces sought to limit what they call "collateral damage" in the Iraq campaign, they defied international criticism and used nearly 10,800 cluster weapons; their British allies used almost 2,200....

If as the coalition claimed, it was doing it's utmost to "minimize civilian casualties" why the extensive use of these bombs? Cluster bombs don't seem very compatable with the philosophy of minimal harm.

Many Iraqis are bitter that their neighborhoods were chosen for attacks by U.S. cluster munitions. That anger has hurt efforts to convince Iraqis that U.S. troops came as liberators, not occupiers.

[Zep]

ALL modern militaries use cluster bombs. And lots of other nasty weapons and tactics that hurt, maim and destory people - military or otherwise. So it has been since Og first hit Grug with a sharp rock. Is this pretty? No. Is it acceptable as a mark of civilisation? No. Is it unique to any military? No. Should they be allowed to continue to be used by anyone? No.

So clam up, Huz. No-one is innocent of using these weapons, including any of your favourite country's armies. Instead, why don't you actively campaign for the removal of landmines and cluster bombs from EVERY army's use, and every land on this earth? Start with North Korea's...

[Huzington]

Originally posted by DialecticMaterialist


No like the people of South Korea, who today make 20 times as much money as the average north korean.

In the 1980s north Korea was richer and more prosperous
than south Korea. It was the 17th most prosperous country in
the world.

But of course, it is convenient for you to ignore these facts. It is
"good anti-Communist" stuff, I dare say. :rolleyes:

[Grammatron]

Originally posted by Huzington


In the 1980s north Korea was richer and more prosperous
than south Korea. It was the 17th most prosperous country in
the world.

But of course, it is convenient for you to ignore these facts. It is
"good anti-Communist" stuff, I dare say. :rolleyes:

Ohhhh I see what you problem is, you don't know it's actually 2003 and North Korea is starving to death because it's not on full life support by USSR.

[RussDill]

Originally posted by Huzington

'Cluster bombs were used by American/NATO forces to brutally murder civilian people all over Yugoslavia in 1999 and Afghanistan in 2001. American/British forces have used cluster bombs against the civilian people of Iraq from 1991 to the present day. Millions of cluster bombs were dropped on the civilian people of Vietnam, Laos and Cambodia during the viciously racist genocide known as 'the Vietnam War.'


Trust me, if the US armed forces wanted to murder civilians, you'd know about it.

[Zep]

Originally posted by Huzington
In the 1980s north Korea was richer and more prosperous than south Korea. It was the 17th most prosperous country in
the world....and I take it you have some hard credible evidence of this to show us?


Or are you going to be relying on Kim Jong Il's schizoid view of reality? If so, you really should read Headscratcher4's sig lines - they are a model of KJI's complete [lack of] touch with reality.

PS. Bet you won't provide ANY evidence at all, now will you!

[NightG1]

Originally posted by Huzington


Saving civilians? Like the children and women you raped blah blah blah
Speaking of rape committed by invading armies...the Red Army in Germany. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,707835,00.html)

[Huzington]

Originally posted by NightG1

Speaking of rape committed by invading armies...the Red Army in Germany. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,707835,00.html)

Ad hominem tu quoque fallacy.

As for Zep, what I said is according to British documentary
"The Real Doctor Evil".

[Jocko]

Comrade, you still owe me a North Korean-hosted website. I know this is off topic, but then again... so are you.

How's life down there in history's dustbin?

[Huzington]

Jocko said
[...] this is off topic

:rolleyes: it has always been off topic.

[Jocko]

Originally posted by Huzington


:rolleyes: it has always been off topic.

I will keep bumping that thread, COMRADE, until you make good on your boast. Starting a thread is easy; any *sshole can do it. Following through takes a tad more gumption, and dare I say, intellect.

You know, kind of like the way your glorious 1917 revolution started with a bang and died with a whimper two generations later.

So how about you find your state-sponsored nads and face a challenge for once? I've seen how your tripe is received elsewhere on the web, and no one has yet forced you to back up a claim.

I'm going to do exactly that.

[rikzilla]

Originally posted by Huzington


Saving civilians? Like the children and women you raped and
blew to smithereens in Vietnam? Like the children and women you
blew to pieces in Korea for wanting a worker's democracy, until
there was "no targets left" in the words of one American war
criminal? Like the north Koreans you have attempted to starve
into submission for years? Or the Iraqis, whom you essentially
committed another genocide against? Atomic-holocaust in Japan?
Belgrade? American-owned death camps in Cuba? Installation of
Pinochet and other brutal dictators? American activity in Nepal &
Peru? Support of monster Saddam Hussein? And the list goes
on and on.

Please! :rolleyes:

You forgot Chile,...

OBTW,...aren't you the same creep that was posting here before about the "rights" of pedophiles??
:tr:

[ingoa]

Originally posted by Huzington


In the 1980s north Korea was richer and more prosperous
than south Korea. It was the 17th most prosperous country in
the world.

But of course, it is convenient for you to ignore these facts. It is
"good anti-Communist" stuff, I dare say. :rolleyes:

Okay finally a statement. Please provide a source for that. :D

The DDR (German Democratic Republic) overtook West-Germany 1980. At least that's what the five-year-plan said. Oooops, never mind.:D

[Mike B.]

Originally posted by ingoa


Okay finally a statement. Please provide a source for that. :D

The DDR (German Democratic Republic) overtook West-Germany 1980. At least that's what the five-year-plan said. Oooops, never mind.:D

:D :D :D

Don't forget all those people trying to escape from West Berlin into the worker's paradise of the DDR...
;)

I mean that is why the wall was built right?

[NightG1]

Originally posted by Huzington


Ad hominem tu quoque fallacy.

As for Zep, what I said is according to British documentary
"The Real Doctor Evil".
So the rapes committed by the Red Army in Germany - well documented - are OK by you?

[Kodiak]

Originally posted by Huzington
Ignoring the fact that they did not kill even a million people, what do Lenin, Stalin, and Mao have to do with America's weapons of terrorism?

:jaw:

WOW...


Huzington, you're my kind of woo-woo...the blantant propagandist.