Sayano–Shushenskaya Accident CT

[defaultdotxbe]

I hadn't even heard about this accident (I usually keep better tabs on international news) but I a website i visit once in a while for laughs has a CT on it (http://reformation.org/russian-power-plant-sabotaged.html)

some choice quotes:

This power station—the largest in Russia— was the 6th largest in the world.

Only the very best hardened concrete and steel are used for the construction of power stations.

On August 17, 2009, a small nuclear bomb ripped through the power plant causing total destruction and killing 75 people. The bomb, or bombs, must have been similar to the ones planted in the basements of the Twin Towers.

This was a very sophisticated small nuclear device to cause so much destruction.

Obviously the work of the Pentagon and NATO.
yeah...hes a mininuker...

The Russians are known worldwide for their great manufacturing skills. Whatever they make is always rugged and dependable. From the AK47 to some of the largest hydroelectric power plants in the world, made in Russia means RELIABILITY.
parallels the truthers assessment of the WTC as so strong as to be invunerable

World War III can begin in the Caucasus any day now!!

The most likely location for World WAR III to begin is the Caucasus. Since his defeat last year, President Mikheil Saakashvili has been itching for round two.



BTW, this is the same guy who says jesuits survive nuclear explosions

[kookbreaker]

'Russian means reliability'?

Not enough laughing dogs.

[JoeyDonuts]

Russian = Reliability?!? What a load of crap.

Just look at the design ethos behind Russian warships. Impressive, right? Bristling with weapons and sensors! WOW!

Ahem. That's redundancy. They don't know how to fix that crap at sea, and don't have the parts and logistics to do it anyway. When one radar fails, they'll shrug their shoulders and flip on one of the other four.

[kookbreaker]

This is a good place to put Top Gear's review of Communist (mostly Russian) cars. Not much for reliability

Part 1

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Part 2

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[fullflavormenthol]

Chernobyl is a name that is synonymous with quality!

[timhau]

The Russians are known worldwide for their great manufacturing skills.

Right. My grandpa had a saying he'd use whenever he had done a highly temporary, duct-tape-and-bubble-gum type fix to some household appliance: "It ain't great, but it's better than a new Russian one."

[Klimax]

But some of their things are reliable.After all we have russian nuclear reactors.(Water mediated!) and some army equipment we got during totality is serving quite well.

But those were probably exceptions...

[jakesteele]

The Aswan High Dam was constructed by the Russians, and has been operating successfully since 1958.

The Bratsk power station is located in south central Russia, and has been operating successfully since 1967.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Davy_Crockett_(nuclear_device)

One of the smallest nuclear weapons ever built, the Davy Crockett was developed in the late 1950s for use against Soviet troops had war broken out in Europe. Small teams of the Atomic Battle Group (charged with operating the device) would be stationed every few kilometers to guard against Soviet attack, using the power of their nuclear artillery to kill or incapacitate advancing troop formations and irradiate the area so that it was uninhabitable for up to 48 hours, long enough to mobilize NATO forces.

Here's what must have happened. One of out super-stealth mode, black ops, off-the-books, higher-than-the-President security clearance spooks infiltrated and lobbed one of these babies in from the hillside.:boxedin:
It was specifically use so that the radiation went away after 48 hrs. so that no one could actually prove it was a small tactical nuke.:rolleyes:

Those damn Yankees, how dare they.:mad:

[dudalb]

Russian = Reliability?!? What a load of crap.

Just look at the design ethos behind Russian warships. Impressive, right? Bristling with weapons and sensors! WOW!

Ahem. That's redundancy. They don't know how to fix that crap at sea, and don't have the parts and logistics to do it anyway. When one radar fails, they'll shrug their shoulders and flip on one of the other four.

Russian Small Arms are great , but anything requiring really HIgh Level Tech and the reliability of Russian weapons takes a BIG nose dive.

[Toke]

From what I hear, and sometimes see at a distance, their ships are poorly maintained.

[fullflavormenthol]

From what I hear, and sometimes see at a distance, their ships are poorly maintained.
I think you have stumbled upon the real issue. The Russians could build really good stuff, they just seemed to have a hard time taking care of it.

[Vermonter]

I dunno, the AK and SKS series of rifles are pretty reliable. You could bury the AK in mud for a week and it'll still fire.

[Chaos]

Russian Small Arms are great , but anything requiring really HIgh Level Tech and the reliability of Russian weapons takes a BIG nose dive.

The T-34 was pretty good, too. A primitive contraption, compared to the Panther or Tiger, or even the PzKfw IV, but it worked, sort of, and it was simple enough to build in massive numbers.

As Stalin is said to have put it, quantity has a quality all of its own.

[leonAzul]

I hadn't even heard about this accident (I usually keep better tabs on international news) but I a website i visit once in a while for laughs has a CT on it (http://reformation.org/russian-power-plant-sabotaged.html)

some choice quotes:


yeah...hes a mininuker...


Even lamer when one considers a radical Islamist group, Riyadus Salikhiin, claims it was a tank mine Link (http://www.reuters.com/article/latestCrisis/idUSLL40111)

Quickly refuted, officially Link (http://en.rian.ru/russia/20090824/155907965.html)

[kookbreaker]

I dunno, the AK and SKS series of rifles are pretty reliable. You could bury the AK in mud for a week and it'll still fire.

The Russians were capable of making solid, no-frills weapons and other items without much trouble. Not a big deal, any industrialized country can do the same thing with proper overseeing.

Nuclear power plants are not something I would put in the 'no-frills weapon' category.

[Klimax]

The Russians were capable of making solid, no-frills weapons and other items without much trouble. Not a big deal, any industrialized country can do the same thing with proper overseeing.

Nuclear power plants are not something I would put in the 'no-frills weapon' category.

I think that VVER 440 is not bad...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dukovany_Nuclear_Power_Station

[Chaos]

The Russians were capable of making solid, no-frills weapons and other items without much trouble. Not a big deal, any industrialized country can do the same thing with proper overseeing.

Nuclear power plants are not something I would put in the 'no-frills weapon' category.

Maybe they simply take the T-34 approach to nuclear power plants... i.e. if they need two, build three, so one could blow up and they´d still have enough power.

[dropzone]

This is a good place to put Top Gear's review of Communist (mostly Russian) cars. Not much for reliability
Part 1
AmIKbjpeTZw
Part 2
CfWcXGYzhJcTo put this comparo in perspective, in 1970, when Ford-America was building such fine cars as the Pinto and the Maverick (worst steering I ever encountered), my brother and the other salesmen at his Ford dealership were told to offer scrap metal value for Cortinas like the one that won the race. And he owned a Fiat 128 and another brother owned an Austin America (Austin 1300 with slushbox). I gave the former a book titled "Lemons," about the worst cars of the 60s-80s. He admitted to having owned a majority of them at one time or another. He now specializes in older Benz Diesels, at least one of which is not running.

ETA: Which, considering the quality and longevity of Benz Diesels, should give you an idea of the quality of his wrenching. Dude's killed nearly as many cars as he's owned.