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Mr.Herbert

30th August 2009, 05:42 PM

As most Americans know, Senator Ted Kennedy passed away recently and was laid to rest with his two slain brothers. The funeral yesterday was quite an event in the city of Boston. Past Presidents: Bush(W), Clinton, Carter, along with their wives were in attendance. Vice President Biden was there as was Speaker of the House Pelosi. Barak and Michelle Obama who were vacationing in Martha's Vineyard were there with Barak delivering the eulogy. As you can imagine, the security around the city of Boston was nothing short of increible. All Boston Police officers were called in. No one on the force had the day off. Secret Service was everywhere! Roof tops, street corners. etc. Exits on the Massachusetts Turnpike were closed. City blocks, closed.

I come into the picture on Thursday. I am just back from working in New York for a couple weeks and was quite tired from working late on Wednesday and traveling via train back home only hours prior. I was asked to meet with Secret Service officers regarding a visitor. I would like to get deeper into the specifics, but by doing so would allow the truthers to learn too much about the location of my employment. (there is a thread dedicated to me at the CIT forum)After taking SS officers on several different tours, I offered to take one of them out for lunch. To make a long story short, upon sitting at our table, the SS officer learned of my interest in conspiracy theories. I quickly assured him of my skeptism and that my hobby is debunking them. I nearly spit out my Coke when he said this to me:

"Do you know that some of those idiots think the government blew up the World Trade Center?" I laughed and told him that the 911 conspiracies are the ones that i spend the most time learning about. He brought up some of the "famous people" that "actually believe that ****." I went down the list of names. From Ed Asner to Charlie Sheen to Rosie O'Donnell.

Next, we discussed the different theories. Surprisingly, he wasn't aware of many of them. In addition to the WTC, he had heard of the missile at the Pentagon and the flight 93 "shoot down." Other than that, he sat there close to hysterics as I explained to him about Judy Woods, Alex Jones, Steven Jones, and the other usual suspects. He got the biggest chuckle from the CIT Flyover Theory. He then asked me how anyone would believe such a ridiculous story. The conversation continued for the duration of lunch (1/2 hour) He asked a few questions, but found most of it quite amusing.

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Unsecured Coins

30th August 2009, 05:54 PM

so... what you're saying is... a Secret Service agent interrogated you about your debunking "hobby" and that you're the Harley Guy?

Thunder

30th August 2009, 05:58 PM

mythstifieD

30th August 2009, 06:03 PM

any Truther who is reading this is now saying:

"what??? the Secret Service know all about us!!! they are part of the conspiracy!! they know all about us!!! he was just lying to you!! they know all about us..don't they???"

Exactly! He was just playing dumb to see where your loyalties lie!!

I hope you didn't come off nervous, he might think you were just being sensible and not accusing him of murder!

I would move, pronto!!

/tinfoilhat

Thunder

30th August 2009, 06:07 PM

my best friend since 2nd grade works for the State Dept. He deals with computers daily. He is also former CIA and DOD.

he knows very few details about 9-11 Conspiracy Theories.

and why? cause he is married and has a life.

Unsecured Coins

30th August 2009, 06:10 PM

defaultdotxbe

30th August 2009, 06:44 PM

Bobert

30th August 2009, 07:20 PM

To a normal sane person the fact that a SS agent is willing to jump in front of a bullet is a sign of a hero but to a ********** in the head CT'er it is a sign they are willing to plant plane parts at the pentagon.

Horatius

30th August 2009, 09:08 PM

and because he's the harley guy, right?

Forget it man, We're all Harley Guy now....

Longfellow

30th August 2009, 09:18 PM

I'm the Harley Guy! [/Spartacus mode]

tuc0

30th August 2009, 11:09 PM

I come into the picture on Thursday. *snip*

I don't believe you. Who has ever heard of a Secret Service agent eating lunch??!?

...

Now that your story has been exposed as fabrication it's obvious 9/11 was an inside job and we need a new investigation!

Panoply_Prefect

31st August 2009, 12:22 AM

It looks weird seeing them referred to as "SS Officers"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101III-Weill-061-29,_Luxemburg,_Himmler_mit_Offizier_der_Waffen-SS.jpg

Klimax

31st August 2009, 12:40 AM

It looks weird seeing them referred to as "SS Officers"

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/1/1d/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101III-Weill-061-29,_Luxemburg,_Himmler_mit_Offizier_der_Waffen-SS.jpg

It is unfortunate abbreviation of their name. (Could have been selected better anyway...)

Panoply_Prefect

31st August 2009, 01:30 AM

It is unfortunate abbreviation of their name.

They would say that, wouldn't they! A coincidence, I think not! NwO is obviously mocking us.

PP

eromitlab

31st August 2009, 02:53 AM

i can see it now:
PROOF DEBUNKERS WORK FOR THE GOVERNMENT!!!!

Predictably, your call was answered by a truther troll in the comments of screwloosechange, and in less than one hour.

One of the shills over on JREF just admitted that he briefed a Secret Service agent on the 9/11 truth movement. They are not even hiding their government connections anymore.

http://forums.randi.org/showthre...ad.php? t=152573

And shill Wally, earning his pay check this weekend, just put up a video of the WRIF Dylan interview

http://forums.randi.org/ showthre...078#post5061078
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Savannah 9/11 Truth | Homepage | 08.30.09 - 10:28 pm | #

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/screwloosechange/2806915490524948877/?a=33211#218262

Mr.Herbert

31st August 2009, 03:57 AM

Predictably, your call was answered by a truther troll in the comments of screwloosechange, and in less than one hour.

http://www.haloscan.com/comments/screwloosechange/2806915490524948877/?a=33211#218262

Wow! This is the reason why I kept my story brief and with minimal information. I wish I could share more of my experience as it was something I wont soon forget.

Björn Toulouse

31st August 2009, 06:40 AM

One of the shills over on JREF just admitted that he briefed a Secret Service agent on the 9/11 truth movement. They are not even hiding their government connections anymore.

Hilarious! The stupid never ends, like, the SS had to talk to Mr. Herbert about the TM because they couldn't find the information on the internet themselves.

Maybe it was the SS that was briefing Mr. Herbert? Think about that, Savannah 9/11 Truth. I see from your web page (http://9-11.meetup.com/381/)that since last November when you had 2 attendees at your monthly meet-up, you have had ZERO attendance since. That's some fine organizing there, DT and Sarah. Maybe you will do better in September if it doesn't rain.

Slayhamlet

31st August 2009, 06:51 AM

Hilarious! The stupid never ends, like, the SS had to talk to Mr. Herbert about the TM because they couldn't find the information on the internet themselves.

Maybe it was the SS that was briefing Mr. Herbert? Think about that, Savannah 9/11 Truth. I see from your web page (http://9-11.meetup.com/381/)that since last November when you had 2 attendees at your monthly meet-up, you have had ZERO attendance since. That's some fine organizing there, DT and Sarah. Maybe you will do better in September if it doesn't rain.

How'd you find that so quick?

Maybe you really are a shill. Or just have shill-like powers.

Mr.Herbert

31st August 2009, 07:51 AM

The NwO paymaster sent me an urgent request insisting that I have my O.P. edited. They said they would withhold my earnings until this was done.

Thanks to Myriad for taking care of this!

nicepants

31st August 2009, 08:31 AM

Predictably, your call was answered by a truther troll in the comments of screwloosechange, and in less than one hour.

I think it's interesting that the truthers believe this with zero supporting evidence...however if it had been something that went against what they believe, they'd be clamoring for youtube video proof.

Klimax

31st August 2009, 12:05 PM

The NwO paymaster sent me an urgent request insisting that I have my O.P. edited. They said they would withhold my earnings until this was done.

Thanks to Myriad for taking care of this!

It is a pity you had to want the post edited.

But IIRC there was nothing identifying...

ImANiceGuy

31st August 2009, 12:40 PM

Other than a good story, this is retarded.

If a crazy conspiracy existed........would this guy confirm it all for you if he was in on it?

If a crazy conspiracy existed, is it not reasonable to assume compartmentalized knowledge? If they're gonna go to all the trouble of flying a plane over the P while simultaneously shooting a missle..........would they send out a group email to anyone @gov*.*

You know the answer to these questions is no....

Some skeptics are guilty of slippery slope-esque logic when it comes to who would be in the know if a conspiracy existed.

Truthers feed off of this. Don't feed their Truth.

defaultdotxbe

31st August 2009, 01:05 PM

If a crazy conspiracy existed, is it not reasonable to assume compartmentalized knowledge? If they're gonna go to all the trouble of flying a plane over the P while simultaneously shooting a missle..........would they send out a group email to anyone @gov*.*

see thats the thing with truthers, theyll tell you only like a dozen people need to be in the know, but then theyll assume an army of shills roam the web and anyone who so much as has lunch with a secret service agent is actively part of the coverup

Mr.Herbert

31st August 2009, 01:11 PM

Other than a good story, this is retarded.

It is nothing but a personal experience I had. That's all. I thought it would be interesting to share here. Let the truthers read into it as much as they want. They are "fed" from anything & everything that is written in this forum.

Mr.Herbert

31st August 2009, 01:16 PM

It is a pity you had to want the post edited.

But IIRC there was nothing identifying...

It would have been possible to figure out my place of employment by what was written in the last paragraph.

Sunray Breaker

31st August 2009, 01:51 PM

Dammit man!!! You've blown our cover...We're not supposed to talk openly about our private lunches with SS.

Now the CT's are gonna blow our cover...Thanks alot!!! Now we have to cancel our false flag Operation Planet X Smashes the Crap out of Earth plan...

We can always fall back on Operation Second Coming plan to round up the sheeple.

Pantaz

31st August 2009, 01:57 PM

It is nothing but a personal experience I had. That's all. I thought it would be interesting to share here. Let the truthers read into it as much as they want. They are "fed" from anything & everything that is written in this forum.

Don't you understand, personal anecdotes require EVIDENCE (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=149258)!!11!1!!

Vermonter

31st August 2009, 05:31 PM

That's a pretty neat story. :)

Lupie

1st September 2009, 04:42 AM

It is nothing but a personal experience I had. That's all. I thought it would be interesting to share here. Let the truthers read into it as much as they want. They are "fed" from anything & everything that is written in this forum.

I'll go ahead and feed the truthers-

For the record, I am a debunker. I also own a company who's major customers include the Dept. of Defense, as well as multiple
federal agencies includng the Secret Service. And...

My father happens to be a retired Secret Service Agent. (cue the spooky X-Files music)

L.

P.S. Interesting story Mr. Herbert.

Pinch

1st September 2009, 05:21 AM

It is nothing but a personal experience I had. That's all. I thought it would be interesting to share here. Let the truthers read into it as much as they want. They are "fed" from anything & everything that is written in this forum.

What is funny is how the PfT boy-os will spin this as some sort of weakness on your part. They did the same with me when I was at the Pentagon back in May and saw Lt William Lagasse, he of the "the plane flew NOC/I saw the plane hit" fame. We had been evacuated from the conference center because of the smell of gas, and while outside I noticed the familiar face.

He was on a cell phone just about the entire time, coordinating the arrival of the Arlington County fire trucks and doing his Pentagon Police job, and because I didn't go up and interrupt him (like a Troother would? Like a rude idiot would) to ask if he really saw the aircraft hit the building, they look at that as some sort of weakness.

njslim

1st September 2009, 10:15 AM

Dont' spend your shill money all in one place....

Macgyver1968

1st September 2009, 11:17 AM

When I wipe hard drives at work, I use a DOD standard. By truther logic, I work for the governement.

Pardalis

1st September 2009, 11:23 AM

dropzone

1st September 2009, 08:03 PM

My brother had a frat bro, Little Tuna, surprisingly-related to Big Tuna Accardo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Accardo). After college he went directly into the Secret Service, with GI sunglasses and talking lapels (I thought those exchanges were the province of the FBI or Chicago Police Department.) Okay, it's off-topic, as is my wife's potential as a Mafia Princess ("Sam Giancana liked my highballs!"), but it's funny and I live for the funny.

FTR: Wife's highballs consist of lots of any booze plus any mixer within reach. She usually ended up out on the lawn (not within reach of FBI microphones) with the wives.

ETA: Wife was at the hospital when Big Tuna died. She says that he was pushed into a corner of the ER so he could die peacefully/without anybody taking measures to keep him alive. He might've gone to Hell sooner, but not by much.

ETAA: She's pissed that Wikipedia is not accurate regarding where he died. Me, I see it as a form of protection.

Mr.Herbert

2nd September 2009, 04:17 PM

Wait a second, Mr Herbert, you explained to him the CIT flyover in under half an hour? How can this be done? I tried to once and it took me at least 15 minutes just to sort through it and try to formulate descent narrative until I finally gave up!

If someone was truly interested in the flyover theory, I agree it would take days to make a valiant attempt at an explanation.

However, if you start with:
"There are a couple guys who think a 757 flew over the pentagon at the same time a bomb went off fooling all witnesses into thinking they saw the impact"..... right about there I am usually told to STFU.