Maoist Revolution in Nepal

[Huzington]

The last time I checked (a few months ago), the Reds have 1/3 of the country of Nepal. And India is next. And you fools say that "Communism
is dead". :rolleyes:

Maoist attacks continue

Maoists caused several million rupees in damage in overnight attacks on Bara district development committee office and 17 ward office of Birgunj municipality, regional police said.

A peon and gardener at the district development office were injured in the explosion.

Rebels torched two motor vehicles donated by the British Government to a forestry project in Butwal Sunday. Rebels stepped up attacks in the Terai ahead of strike call by the Madesh Mukti Morcha, an affiliate of the rebels, Monday.

Rebels set off an explosion at the traffic office in Birtamodh, Jhapa, Monday. First reports said the strike has affected the terai districts from Jhapa to Banke in far west Nepal. nepalnews.com br Dec.15

Explosion in Biratnagar

Maoists exploded powerful bombs in the office building of Ward No. 8 in the eastern city of Biratnagar at 6:30 pm Sunday, radio reports said.

The explosion destroyed windows of the office and drinking water pipes, the reports said. No one is reported dead or injured, as the incident occurred in the off hours, the reports said.

Police has tightened security in and around the area, which is near Devkota Chowk and is at 200 metres' distance from the District Police Office, the reports said.

Meanwhile, two blasts have also been reported in Birgunj and Butwal. No any untoward incidents happened in the two separate blasts, details of which could not be received instantly, the reports said. nepalnews.com mr Dec.14

Army Motor vehicle damaged in explosion

A joint security patrol miraculously survived a Maoist ambush Monday near a river in Mohottari one day after 11 armed policemen and four others were killed in the district in a surprise attack, regional police said.

The motor vehicle was damaged in the explosion on a diversion gravel road. A team consisting of army and police personnel was going to Nawalparasi for a regional conference when the government forces were surprised.

A brief gun battle ensued in a nearby jungle following the surprise attack. nepalnews.com br Dec.15

Nepalis' Accounts Frozen In Indian Border States

The Indian government has frozen around 2000 bank accounts of Nepalis in Uttar Pradesh and Uttaranchal states on suspicions that they have links with the Maoists. The move was taken a month after the US imposed economic sanctions on the Maoists and urged other nations to follow the suit. The Indian government started secretly investigating Nepalis? accounts on the request of the Nepal government, Indian intelligence sources said. The first phase of the investigation was started by freezing about 2000 bank accounts of Nepalis in Udhamsinghnagar, Champawat, Pithhauraghad and Pilibhit districts, among others.

Maoists Plan To Organize Nepalis In India

According to Dr. Baburam Bhattarai, the Maoist number two, the Maoists are planning to organize Nepalis living in India. Talking to a news weekly he said, "There are more than 10 million poor Nepalis who earn their livelihood in India. We are trying to organize them and under their protection we plan to hold talks with different quarters." Though he did not specify where the "talks" would be held, the assumption is Indian cities would be venues since the rebels last month met UML leaders in Lucknow. The secret meeting triggered a furor in Nepal, with a section of the media accusing India of sheltering the insurgents. Bhattarai said in a letter published in the current issue of a weekly here that since his organization was already "occupying" 80 percent of Nepalese soil, it did not have to hold its meetings on foreign soil. However, it chose to do so because of the Nepalis residing in India, he said. "Elements who cannot survive without alms from foreigners have been shedding crocodile tears just because we chose to meet on foreign soil," his letter said. "They are also harping on how the Indian state has protected the Maoists [...] Some people are demonstrating their intellectual bankruptcy when they say the meeting between Maoist and (leftist) leaders in Siliguri two years ago an the latest one in Lucknow justify their argument that India has been the base of the entire People's War." The Himalayan Times daily reports

[Hexxenhammer]

I hate to feed a troll, but your post indicates that you think terrorist attacks against civilians are a good thing. Have you read that first quote in your sig?

[Huzington]

Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
I hate to feed a troll, but your post indicates that you think terrorist attacks against civilians are a good thing. Have you read that first quote in your sig?

I hate to feed the troll (who is trying to ignite a flame war with
me, i.e. trolling, by calling me names), but they were not "terrorist
attacks". You're just mad the the Communists are winning. :P

And remember - India & Peru are next, and the Communists
there are making good progress.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Huzington


I hate to feed the troll (who is trying to ignite a flame war with
me, i.e. trolling, by calling me names), but they were not "terrorist
attacks". You're just mad the the Communists are winning. :P

I hate to feed a troll too but I HAVE to ask this question.

Pray tell, wht exactly DO you consider a terrorist attack? Attacks carried out by those whose politics you disagree with?

[Huzington]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep


I hate to feed a troll too but I HAVE to ask this question.

Pray tell, wht exactly DO you consider a terrorist attack? Attacks carried out by those whose politics you disagree with?

It is a war fought by the people against the highly oppressive
ruling class of Nepal. Surely you cannot deny that the Nepalese
have endured a lot of oppression under this class. These are
people trying to liberate themselves, fighting for a worker's
democracy by the only means possible. It is just inconceivable to
me that these acts of liberation are acts of "terrorism". An
example of terrorism would be, e.g., the atomic-holocaust of
Japan, or the events on September 11, attacks which did not
serve the people, which were not in the slightest conducive to
ending oppression, etc.

[Hexxenhammer]

According to the Nepal Home Page (http://www.nepalhomepage.com/general/political-structure.html) the communists are already a pretty strong political party with 31.6% of votes. So the Maoist rebels aren't content to just join this party and affect change from in the system, they feel the need to blow stuff up. Makes sense to me.

[BTox]

Originally posted by Huzington
And remember - India & Peru are next, and the Communists
there are making good progress.

60,000,000 plus lives lost, and they want to tack on even more...

[Tony]

Im always impressed by people who fight for poverty. That's all communism has to offer.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Huzington


It is a war fought by the people against the highly oppressive
ruling class of Nepal. These are people trying to liberate themselves, fighting for a worker's democracy by the only
means possible. An example of terrorism would be, e.g., the
atomic-holocaust of Japan, or the events on September 11.

Ah so I am right, your definition of terrorism does depend on your opinion of the perpetrator and/or the victim.

By your logic the "atomic holocaust of Japan" could be characterized as a last ditch effort by a democratic state to remove a brutal military dictatorship from power and the 9/11 attacks could be characterized as oppressed Arabs striking a blow against the imperialistic might of the United States by the only means possible.

If you play enough games with words you can justify nearly anything. But in the end, terrorism is still terrorism no matter what games you play to justify it.

[Huzington]

Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
According to the Nepal Home Page (http://www.nepalhomepage.com/general/political-structure.html) the communists are already a pretty strong political party with 31.6% of votes. So the Maoist rebels aren't content to just join this party and affect change from in the system, they feel the need to blow stuff up. Makes sense to me.

And they are winning, too. They have the suport of the people.
Socialism cannot be achieved without revolution.

[hgc]

Originally posted by Huzington

...
Socialism cannot be achieved without revolution. And not even then either.

[Hexxenhammer]

Originally posted by Huzington


And they are winning, too. They have the suport of the people.
Socialism cannot be achieved without revolution. See, Mcdonalds just needs to open up some franchises in these villages. They'd have a Big Mac and see the wonders of capitalism and cholesterol at the same time.

[jj]

Originally posted by Huzington
The last time I checked (a few months ago), the Reds have 1/3 of the country of Nepal. And India is next. And you fools say that "Communism
is dead". :rolleyes:

Maoist attacks continue

Maoists caused several million rupees in damage in overnight attacks on Bara district development committee office and 17 ward office of Birgunj municipality, regional police said.


Yippie. So marxists can destroy. We already knew that.


A peon and gardener at the district development office were injured in the explosion.

They can kill, too.

Big news. Stalin wasn't exactly a piker in that regard.

Rebels torched two motor vehicles donated by the British Government to a forestry project in Butwal Sunday. Rebels stepped up attacks in the Terai ahead of strike call by the Madesh Mukti Morcha, an affiliate of the rebels, Monday.


Ok, you've made a point, Marxists can destroy, pillage, loot, and steal.

Now, when can/will they do anything constructive, Huziwatzis?

Their record in that regard is long, and uniformily negative.

[Huzington]

Originally posted by hgc
And not even then either.

Though Capitalism was restored in almost every Socialist country,
nonetheless Socialism has been achieved before, and it will
continue to be the goal of all progressive mankind.

[Tony]

Originally posted by hgc
And not even then either.


:dl:

[jj]

Originally posted by Huzington


Though Capitalism was restored in almost every Socialist country,
nonetheless Socialism has been achieved before, and it will
continue to be the goal of all progressive mankind.

Socialism has never been achieved. What Marxism has shown is that it is so tragically, utterly flawed that every attempt simply allows the cheaters and bullies to float to the top and steal from everyone else.

History is clear on that matter.

Socialism is dead, buried by history.
Marxism is dead, buried by history.
Communism is dead, buried by history.

All you have left is the angry murdering and destruction of the mob proteliatariat.

You have not a thing constructive to point to in all of Marxism, Socialism, Leninism, Communism, Stalinism, PolPotism, Kimism, put together, not a single, solitary constructive thing to point to.

Your whole philosophy is fully and exclusively destructive, and involves stealing from individuals in order to survive as a hopeless political mistake.

[Hexxenhammer]

I'd just like to thank Huzington for posting this here today so that the left and the right can come together and laugh at him.

[jj]

Originally posted by Tony



:dl:

Hey, Tony, you forgot something. You failed to make fun of what I said in this thread, I guess you're falling down in your attempt to carry out your disenfranchisement propaganda.

Get on the stick, Tony.

[BTox]

Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
I'd just like to thank Huzington for posting this here today so that the left and the right can come together and laugh at him.

Yes, he and rouser have that same ability - need more of them around here!

[Tony]

Originally posted by jj


Hey, Tony, you forgot something. You failed to make fun of what I said in this thread

It wasnt funny.

I guess you're falling down in your attempt to carry out your disenfranchisement propaganda.

Yep.

Get on the stick, Tony.

Is that what you say to your under-age male lovers?

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
I'd just like to thank Huzington for posting this here today so that the left and the right can come together and laugh at him.

No kidding.

Maybe if we can ship him over to Isreal, the Isrealis and Palestinians would be too busy laughing at him to bother killing each other.

I think we have the secret to world peace right here.

[jj]

Originally posted by Tony

Is that what you say to your under-age male lovers?

Making false accusations of child abuse now, liar?

[Hexxenhammer]

Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
I'd just like to thank Huzington for posting this here today so that the left and the right can come together and laugh at him.

.Is that what you say to your under-age male lovers?

Making false accusations of child abuse now, liar?

That didn't last long.

[Tony]

Originally posted by jj


Making false accusations of child abuse now, liar?

You said it, not me. I find it interesting you would interpret my harmless and sarcastic rhetorical question as an allegation.

[Huzington]

Bah, you're all just mad that the Maoists have EIGHTY PERCENT
of the country.

Edit: Nepalese revolutionaries entering India;

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/3313523.stm

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Huzington
Bah, you're all just mad that the Maoists have EIGHTY PERCENT
of the country.

Nope I am mad that they are killing people in the name of some unrealistic political goal. The percentage of the country that their butchery has gained them is irrevelant.

[Ed]

Gather round folks, gather round. I interrupt the freak show for just a moment of your time.

Please attend to my latest new product, satisfaction guarenteed.

The freak will be back in a moment after I have taken your orders.......

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Ed
Gather round folks, gather round. I interrupt the freak show for just a moment of your time.

Please attend to my latest new product, satisfaction guarenteed.

The freak will be back in a moment after I have taken your orders.......

I'll take a case. My goal in life is to be able to be the most popular guy in the nudist colony. You know. the one that can carry two cups of coffee and a dozen donuts at the same time.

The most poplular woman, by the way, is the one that can eat all twelve donuts.

[Hexxenhammer]

Originally posted by Huzington
[B]Bah, you're all just mad that the Maoists have EIGHTY PERCENT
of the country.
That's funny. I just this second talked to a Nepalese friend of mine and he said that the rebels control 40% of the country. I then asked him if the people in the area controlled by the Maoists are for the Maoists or against them. He said they were neither, they were just scared. When there is fighting going on, the "people" you go on and on about do whatever the guy with the gun tells them to do.

[Huzington]

Originally posted by Hexxenhammer
That's funny. I just this second talked to a Nepalese friend of mine and he said that the rebels control 40% of the country. I then asked him if the people in the area controlled by the Maoists are for the Maoists or against them. He said they were neither, they were just scared. When there is fighting going on, the "people" you go on and on about do whatever the guy with the gun tells them to do.

Well, I just read the report of the revolutionaries themselves,
and they report that they have 80% of the country. And the
oppressive Royal Army who killed so many innocents itself has admitted this.

The Nepalese reactionaries (aristocrats, capitalists and landlords)
need international solidarity to keep them in power. And they do
get it, not just from Anglo-American imperialists or India, but also
the People's Republic of China (apparently the Capitalist Party of
China doesn't want as its neighbour a living example of Maoism).

[jj]

Originally posted by Tony


You said it, not me. I find it interesting you would interpret my harmless and sarcastic rhetorical question as an allegation.
I said nothing of the sort, you made the accusation. Do not attempt to claim that I've accused myself of being some kind of pederast, that's both false and seeking to muddy the evidence.

No accusation of criminal behavior is ever "harmless" no matter how sarcastic or rhetorical it may be.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by Tony

Is that what you say to your under-age male lovers?
ooooooooooooooo...... Tony is being a very naughty boy. Tony may want to have a think before he hits submit reply.

[Hexxenhammer]

Originally posted by Huzington


Well, I just read the report of the revolutionaries themselves,
and they report that they have 80% of the country. And the
oppressive Royal Army who killed so many innocents itself has admitted this. Maybe you should check your sources. And maybe you should move to Nepal and live in one of the Maoist villages. Or Peru. Or North Korea. Maybe NK would take you instead of one of kidnapped Japanese citizens they want back. They'd whip a fat, white boy like you into shape in no time I'm sure.

[The Fool]

Originally posted by Tony


You said it, not me. I find it interesting you would interpret my harmless and sarcastic rhetorical question as an allegation.
This is the usual cowards squeal you use to backslide from your racist statements...Its good to see that you are getting good value from your investment in cowardice and are now using it to backslide from offensive accusations of child abuse.....good one Tony.

[hgc]

Originally posted by Huzington

... living example of Maoism You see Huzy, it's the little things that are going to trip you up. "Living," in this case, would equate to "dying." What is Maoism anyway? Forced collectivization of agriculture? Snatching children away from their families to be raised by party? Sending youth into the countryside to be "re-educated" working in deadly conditions on pointless projects? Uh gee, why did Maoism not make it in China anyway? Perhaps because it sucks donkey dick, nu?

[Segnosaur]

Originally posted by Huzington
The last time I checked (a few months ago), the Reds have 1/3 of the country of Nepal. And India is next. And you fools say that "Communism
is dead". :rolleyes:

Maoist attacks continue



Ummm.... question...

If this really were evidence that 'the Reds' were gaining in popularity, etc, then shouldn't the article be about how the people are pushing for Communism (though political action and mass rallies), rather than through bombings and other attacks that can be accomplished by a tiny minority of the population?

[Nyarlathotep]

By the way, am I the only person to notice that, according to Huzington, the Maoists have gone from having 1/3 of the country to having 80%, just during the brief time that this thread has existed?

Wow, they're good. they gained about 43% of Nepal in just a few hours. If nothing else they must be tactical geniuses.:rolleyes:

[Reginald]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
By the way, am I the only person to notice that, according to Huzington, the Maoists have gone from having 1/3 of the country to having 80%, just during the brief time that this thread has existed?

Wow, they're good. they gained about 43% of Nepal in just a few hours. If nothing else they must be tactical geniuses.:rolleyes:

They will be banging on the doors of the pentagon any day now.



erm......Comrade.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Reginald


They will be banging on the doors of the pentagon any day now.



erm......Comrade.

THE NEPALESE MAOISTS ARE IN CARSON CITY, THEY HAVE TAKEN MY OFFICE!!!!!! AIEEEEEE!!!! RUN FOR THE HILLS!!!!!!!!!!!

[Tony]

Originally posted by jj

I said nothing of the sort, you made the accusation.


I say again:

I find it interesting you would interpret my harmless and sarcastic rhetorical question as an allegation.

[jj]

Originally posted by Tony



I say again:



"Harmless", says Tony!
Never mind history, now,
"Harmless", says Tony!

[Huzington]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep
By the way, am I the only person to notice that, according to Huzington, the Maoists have gone from having 1/3 of the country to having 80%, just during the brief time that this thread has existed?

Wow, they're good. they gained about 43% of Nepal in just a few hours. If nothing else they must be tactical geniuses.:rolleyes:

Read my original post again, moron. I said THE LAST TIME I
CHECKED. That was quite some time ago, and the article was
outdated. Now I read again for updates...and I find that the
percentage is now eighty. Duh!

:rolleyes:

[jj]

Originally posted by Huzington


Read my original post again, moron. I said THE LAST TIME I
CHECKED. That was quite some time ago, and the article was
outdated. Now I read again for updates...and I find that the
percentage is now eighty. Duh!

:rolleyes:

"moron"... "Duh"

Didn't you say you don't read people's articles if they abuse you?

Hypocrite.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Huzington


Read my original post again, moron. I said THE LAST TIME I
CHECKED. That was quite some time ago, and the article was
outdated. Now I read again for updates...and I find that the
percentage is now eighty. Duh!

:rolleyes:

Either that or you are pulling numbers out of your a$$.

[Huzington]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep


Either that or you are pulling numbers out of your a$$.

No. From the MAOIST INFORMATION BULLETIN:

The heroic People’s Liberation Army, Nepal (PLA) has been handing severe blows to the royal mercenary RNA day after day and in every possible front all over the country. There are almost daily reports of successful minings, ambushes, commando attacks and selected frontal battles against the genocidal royal armed forces organized in the so-called Unified Command, in which hundreds have been killed and large quantities of arms and ammunitions seized. This has forced the hired killers of the despotic monarchy to retreat to newly fortified barracks in selected strategic areas and more than eighty percent of the country has passed on to the control of the revolutionary forces. To hide this defeat and embarrassment, the royal butchers have been stepping out stealthily in the nearby areas and massacring unarmed political activists and general masses so as to fulfill their daily quota of ‘encounter deaths’ propagandized through the state controlled media.

Published by: International Department, CPN(Maoist)

Contact address: Inf_bulletin@yahoo.com / Inf_bulletin@hotmail.com

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Huzington


No. From the MAOIST INFORMATION BULLETIN:



Now there's a source you can trust:rolleyes:

[Huzington]

Originally posted by Nyarlathotep


Now there's a source you can trust:rolleyes:

Straight from the revolutiory forces themselves...people who
are actually there, involved &c. Quite unlike CNN :rolleyes:

[Zep]

From: The Maoist Nepalese Group
To: Huzington

Sit down.

Shut up.

Stay that way.

You are not helping our cause at all by opening your mouth, comrade.

Open it again and when we get to power we will have to review your membership in our movement...on a permanent basis.

Yours in solidarity,
Maoist Nepalese

PS. Also, please don't mention where our money comes from...

[aerosolben]

Originally posted by jj
Socialism has never been achieved.

Not so. IIRC, one of the Scandinavian countries (Norway? Finland?) adopted a socialist governmental structure several decades ago. No violent revolution, no dictator; arguably one of the few successfully socialist governments ever.

Of course, successful is a relative term. Everyone was equally very poor. Eventually they loosened economic controls.

Perhaps someone else has more details.

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by Huzington


Straight from the revolutiory forces themselves...people who
are actually there, involved &c. Quite unlike CNN :rolleyes:

There is a distinction between blatant propaganda and news. You seem quite unable to make that distinction.

CNN (like any news organization) undoubtedly has their biases too and anyone with any sort of critical thinking skills knows this and takes it into account when hearing the news as they present it. However I still consider them 100X more trustworthy than some some propaganda arm of some Maoist rebel movement.