September Stundie Nominations

[Travis]

September is here and we can probably anticipate a nice helping of Stundilicious, Stundiable Stundies. Remember that a good Stundie is not just about Conspiracy Theories but is funny and concise. It may not make you lose faith in humanity but it certainly is a risk....so tread carefully and let those nominations roll like a bad Killtown analogy.

[joe911]

Just remember, it's all an illusion, albeit a realistic-looking one. No matter in which era you live, there will always be some faction bent on conquering the world. Just go with the flow and enjoy the experience.

Whatever you fight, you become. Resistance is futile, b/c think of what you are doing... fighting against a hologram. Does it really matter if the hologram is "evil" or "good"? In the end, whether you enjoy your time here overall in this holgraphic frequency is more important than who's controlling the world.

:D:D:D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1238448&postcount=1

[Brainache]

:D:D:D

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1238448&postcount=1

Holographic frequency?

My Brane Hertz...

[Horatius]

And we're off to a good start:


You don't need explosives; you just need heat, apparently. Lest we forget, the plane's impacts, other than providing the heat source, had nothing to do with the collapses.

[gtc]

Is there a poll for the August stundies?

[jaydeehess]

Horatius, you beat me to it.

Title? How about "100 ton airliner crashes at high speed, no significant damage reported"

[Travis]

Is there a poll for the August stundies?

It will be up Thursday morning. I've been moving a new roommate in this week and it's been wearing me out because I'm being forced to sell off a lot of stuff in a yard sale to make room. Yes, my old roommate left a lot of stuff behind and just told me to sell it off or junk it.


On the plus side I've made $1500 off his old stuff so far. :cool:

[Mancman]

I am also suspicious of the "explode on impact" scenario in that modern aircraft are designed to NOT burst into flames upon crashing! however on 9/11/2001 we have THREE crashes where all three demonstrate the "explode on impact" behavior.... VERY STRANGE!

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2204686781&topic=11235

[Arus808]

omg...seriously? a plane is pretty much a flying boat with fuel in the wings. Tell me how they are "designed" not to "explode" on impact, considering that its a flying fuel tank?

[Fishstick]

omg...seriously? a plane is pretty much a flying boat with fuel in the wings. Tell me how they are "designed" not to "explode" on impact, considering that its a flying fuel tank?

They're designed not to go all Hollywood and explode into a ball of fire the second they hit the ground in a crash landing. I dont think "Plowing through a skyscraper" is on the Boeing checklist. Well, maybe these days it is.

[dudalb]

I am expecting great things this month with Swine Flu CT theories.

[Dave Rogers]

Here's an interesting piece of tortured logic from our newest truther.

wrong, you're asking me to present complex physics equations to prove something very basic and intuitively obvious. Only a physicist would be able to do this, thus you're implying that only a qualified physicist is entitled to comment on this matter thus you're appealing to authority

I'm not sure which is worst - not knowing the difference between a request for explanation and an appeal to authority, not understanding the distinction between a valid and an invalid appeal to authority, or the rather strange implication that we should accept his assertions because he doesn't know how to prove them.

Dave

[TexasJack]

Here's an interesting piece of tortured logic from our newest truther.

I'm not so sure he's new, recycled is probably a better description.

[Mel Odious]

Yeah, this is a lot like one of my July 2009 nominees (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4935263&postcount=156), but gosh-darn it, mysticmolly puts it so eloquently ...


How to get rid of conspiracy nuts!!!

Put about the rumour that the swine flu vaccine is deadly and it should not be taken and let it spread to all of the truther forums.

Then add a special ingredient to the vaccine to protect against a killer virus you intend to release to get rid of all the nonsense people in the world eg in Africa etc and let the conspiracy nuts go down with them!!!!

Problem solved !!!!


DI Forums. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80358)

I especially liked the idea that vaccines don't protect against killer viruses unless you add "a special ingredient".

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I'd like to nominate this unknown twoofer over at the Screw Loose Change comments section (http://www.haloscan.com/comments.php?user=%20screwloosechange%20&comment=2292350043774089261) for this hilariously sloppy and ham-fisted impersonation of one of our forum regulars:

I`d rather not get the hat tip, patty.
Go find your own stories, faggot. The JREF are tired of this crappy blog copying and pasting our material.
Good Lt. | 09.03.09 - 7:38 pm | #

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I especially liked the idea that vaccines don't protect against killer viruses unless you add "a special ingredient".

Vaccines without the special ingredient are called "saline solution". ;)

[Horatius]

Vaccines without the special ingredient are called "saline solution". ;)



Yeah; the saddest part is, she's technically correct, just not in the way she thinks she is.....sigh.

[NWO Sentryman]

From the Stundie diamond mine that is facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=11021&post=69762&uid=2204686781#topic_top


3) There is oxygen present in the oxidizer, you :rule10:. THAT IS WHY IT IS CALLED AN OXIDIZER!

IT DOESN'T COME FROM THE AIR!!! IT'S IN THE COMPOSITE!!! GOD, THE CHEMICAL REACTION INVOLVES WHAT IS PRESENT IN THE MATERIAL.

NOT THE AIR!!!

THE CHEMICAL REACTION FROM THE ORGANIC ADDITIVE CAUSES THE AIR PRESSURE TO CHANGE! TO GO "BOOM"!!!

THEY USE TECHNOLOGY CALLED ELECTRON MICROSCOPY, X-RAY ENERGY DISPERSIVE SPECTROSCOPY, ETC. TO EXAMINE WHAT IS THE MATERIAL!
INERT ATMOSPHERE PROVES NOTHING!

YOUR INERT IDEA PROVES NOTHING!

[defaultdotxbe]

From the Stundie diamond mine that is facebook.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?topic=11021&post=69762&uid=2204686781#topic_top
the quote needs more context

to anyone confused by this, shes responding to someone who said Jones et al should have tested their paint chips in an inert atmosphere, to prove it was thermite (self-oxidizing) and not just some other material combusting

the stundie nominee, is saying the oxygen came from the thermite, not the atmosphere, completely ignoring the fact that this would need to be proven by burning it in an inert atmosphere

[UNLoVedRebel]

Homeland Insurgency was disappointed he never won a stundie so he created a sockpuppet and came up with this gem:

At least 3 out of 3 debunkers have low evidence of their stories.

"at least" is 100%.

[Travis]

Yeah, this is a lot like one of my July 2009 nominees (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=4935263&postcount=156), but gosh-darn it, mysticmolly puts it so eloquently ...





DI Forums. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80358)

I especially liked the idea that vaccines don't protect against killer viruses unless you add "a special ingredient".

It continues to amaze me that they can't see how stupid that line of logic is.

[NWO Sentryman]

So when are the August Stundie finals coming?

[Nick Terry]

according to a Holocaust denier named shyster, reading books is proof that one's opponents are gatekeepers (reply #2 (http://rodohforum.yuku.com/topic/7740?page=-1))


When the gate keepers, having had the advantage of reading all the books, lie and deny repeatedly, one knows with what one is dealing.

[ihaunter]

I nominate Thetan1974:

You are confusing a phobia with paranoia.

Considering what it is you are accepting, you are paranoid.

Heh.
Nope - paranoid would be if I was WRONG. Which i am not in my mind. That's the same as me telling you, that you actually are a sheep. You don't believe in that, so, in your mind, you're not.

Heh.

[Travis]

So when are the August Stundie finals coming?

Check my signature. ;)

[Trojan_Jockey]

Nice argument about why you should never post a source to back up your claim.

I used to put up lots of links until I realized I was being asked for them so they could be followed up on and destroyed. My claim is that TNT produces light waves all the way into the x-ray spectrum of frequencies and I am your source. Now, go ahead and try refuting that with a counterclaim that makes sense.

From the DI forums of course.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1248175&postcount=228

[Alareth]

Nice argument about why you should never post a source to back up your claim.



From the DI forums of course.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1248175&postcount=228


Sources are for suckers.

[Dave Rogers]

I can barely keep track of this post from 9/11-investigator long enough to point out what's wrong with it.

Do you remember the video (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sjLgzgflCk8&feature=PlayList&p=0FDE25A3653C02EC&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=24) where a flower pot filled with thermite burns through a car motor bloc in seconds? The same amount of nano-thermite reacts in milliseconds rather than seconds. And besides the nano-thermite was used not to melt steel but to pulverize concrete, a different thing altogether. It was regular thermite/thermate that was used to melt steel and weaken the structure.

So nanothermite is much better at burning through steel than regular thermite, which is why they didn't use it to burn through steel. But for some reason they decided to use the nanothermite, which is better for melting steel, to pulverise the concrete, which they didn't need to do, then they could use the regular thermite, which isn't as good at melting steel, for melting steel. After all, why use one kind of thermite when you can do something useless even worse with two?

Dave

[Childlike Empress]

September is here and we can probably anticipate a nice helping of Stundilicious, Stundiable Stundies. Remember that a good Stundie is not just about Conspiracy Theories but is funny and concise.


OK, here's a honorable nomination of Stundie himself, who has created a funny and concise term which i'm planning to steal on occasion - the joke is on you:

I shall see your response before I wade in with the rest, because your response to these 1st failing few minutes will let us know whether you are serious or pantomime debunking.


hahahahahahahahaha!!! (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=318606&t=2219079) :D

[Minadin]

Opponents of reform have mounted a vicious smear campaign against me," Jones said in the statement. "They are using lies and distortions to distract and divide.


http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/09/06/obama.adviser.resigns/index.html?eref=igoogle_cnn

Because the first thing that opponents of the administration's health care ideas would do is to . . . go after the green energy czar?

. . . for . . . something that's not related to health care or green energy?

. . . which . . . is actually true?

This reminds me of when 9/11 truthers used to like to claim that every TV show that featured them in any way was some sort of hit piece. You would say, 'But it's a documentary' and they would say 'Exactly!'.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I am somewhat saddened this month to present that rarest of prizes, the thing twoofers fantasize about but can never nail down ("This n00b thinks fire can weaken steel, roflcopter!") the nearly mythological debunker stundie.

Drakieus once caught a telescope THHIIIIIIIS BIG!

Maybe I can clear something up here if CT's would take the time and money but...

...I currently possess a high-powered telescope in my backyard, purchased when my father left the military, and with it if the Moon is full and close enough, you can see the American Flag and the base of the Lunar Lander used to settle on the moon.

So I don't know what the big deal is. They landed on the moon - yay. So did the Russians at one point.

What's the big deal?

[R.Mackey]

OK, here's a honorable nomination of Stundie himself, who has created a funny and concise term which i'm planning to steal on occasion - the joke is on you:

While I would agree that "pantomime debunking" does happen now and then, there is also real debunking, and I doubt that Stundie has the intellect to discern them...

I am somewhat saddened this month to present that rarest of prizes, the thing twoofers fantasize about but can never nail down ("This n00b thinks fire can weaken steel, roflcopter!") the nearly mythological debunker stundie.

Drakieus once caught a telescope THHIIIIIIIS BIG!

Egad, that would be some nice telescope. Say about like this (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CFHT) with roughly three orders of magnitude better resolution. From his backyard. (Also laughing at "when the Moon is close enough...")

Those are some mighty fine e-muscles, indeed.

[Horatius]

So because there are Black Ops with a Black Budget. And no one could know what goes on there. Therefore 9/11 was an inside jobby job? Filling an empty hole with conjecture are we? That's your evidence?

At least I'm trying to put something substantial into the hole, rather than trying to pretend the hole isn't there.


You heard it here first, folks. "Conjecture" = "Something Substantial".

[WildCat]

From Newton's Bit facebook thread, Bryan wrote in reference to the Madrid Tower:
Bryan wrote2 hours ago

Considering the concrete melts at a lower temperature than steel has anyone considered that the steel frame work on that building was substandard or even completely finished?
or are all of you structural experts on building codes in Spain?
and what was the concrete reinforced with...steel maybe!
http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2204686781&topic=11255#topic_top

[Newtons Bit]

From Newton's Bit facebook thread, Bryan wrote in reference to the Madrid Tower:

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2204686781&topic=11255#topic_top

Woo, people are finally figuring out how to properly use my name! The possessive noun for "Newton's Bit" is fun for the whole family.

And I'm jealous that I don't get to Stundie that stuff =[

[WildCat]

Woo, people are finally figuring out how to properly use my name! The possessive noun for "Newton's Bit" is fun for the whole family.
I wasn't sure if I had it right!

[Dave Rogers]

Another supposedly new poster is exploring new areas of irrationality.

I'm putting together a little memorandum noting how you have been misusing these forums.
How an anti free speech activist is using this as a platform against constitutional rights, how there is absolutely no discourse on these pages and how you - hiding behind your avatars - are actively undermining the American constitution.There is only one conspiracy here - and it is of your making.

Apparently we're preventing free speech by... er... posting stuff on an internet forum. How does that one work again?

Dave

[Klimax]

Another supposedly new poster is exploring new areas of irrationality.



Apparently we're preventing free speech by... er... posting stuff on an internet forum. How does that one work again?

Dave

Misusing this forum... anti-free speech...

This was huge LOL! :D

[triforcharity]

Wow, that was certainly mind-boggling!! Wow, preventing free speach by providing aa free outlet to express....yourself.... Wait, what?? LOL!!!

[AJM8125]

I'd appreciate it if you OCT types would stop dropping the 'T' word around us. You be dissin da truth.

NGC actually used the term "truthers" to refer to the objectivists, a silly-sounding label used as shorthand within the community of 9/11 skeptics, but not one that they use when speaking to critics. The use of that insider label was one of the many appeals to emotion rather than reason used in the show. To help understand this, compare the use of the "N" word by African-Americans themselves, as opposed to its use by people who are not members of that group and instead are hostile toward its members. The repeated use of the word "beliefs," more appropriate to emotional and religious contexts, rather than the word "conclusions," which carries a connotation of rationality, is another example of this kind of manipulation.

No more 'T' bombs, mmmkay? kthxbye.

http://www.ae911truth.org/info/92

[Brainache]

I'd appreciate it if you OCT types would stop dropping the 'T' word around us. You be dissin da truth.



No more 'T' bombs, mmmkay? kthxbye.

http://www.ae911truth.org/info/92

So the new word for baseless speculation is "conclusion"? I never knew that.

[Alareth]

I'd appreciate it if you OCT types would stop dropping the 'T' word around us. You be dissin da truth.



No more 'T' bombs, mmmkay? kthxbye.

http://www.ae911truth.org/info/92


I recorded that show but haven't had a chance to watch the whole thing.

It appears to be Gage, Griffin and Avery in a room watching as Truther claims are put to actual physical testing and then explaining why all test results are irrelevant based on the "Principle of Ambulatory Goalposts"

[triforcharity]

I recorded that show but haven't had a chance to watch the whole thing.

It appears to be Gage, Griffin and Avery in a room watching as Truther claims are put to actual physical testing and then explaining why all test results are irrelevant based on the "Principle of Ambulatory Goalposts"

Pretty much!! Its good science though. Especially the Thermite one, but the top WIN for the whole show (IMHO) is the jet fuel experiment.

Oh, and Principle of Ambulatory Goalposts almost made me wet myself.

[Agatha]

Referring to a proposed announcement by Alex Jones on the 8th of September: Wake up Says:

September 8th, 2009 at 4:51 am
For the people who dont actually know what Alex Jones is talking about, remember this
09/09/09 is 9 to the 9th power of 9

I think his/her mathematical skills may be a little lacking.

http://www.infowars.com/huge-announcement-coming-tomorrow-to-infowars-and-prison-planet/

[Travis]

The stupid is exponential.

[Dave Rogers]

When are controlled conditions not controlled? When they're a demolition, according to our resident Swedish stundie master.

It seems some posters think that one or more structures have been presented that meet the conditions above but only videos of various controlled demolitions of structures have been shown/linked to suggesting that they all fulfill the conditions above without any evidence, of course.

No, a Heiwa Challenge structure must be destroyed under controlled conditions (not demolition)

It mustn't be controlled, it must be controlled. The difference should be obvious.

Dave

[NWO Sentryman]

By Gaetan on the politics forum

You fellows have no argument, if there wouldn't be socialism in your countries you peoples would starve to death. Don't listen by your capitalist médias like Fox own by millionaires who don't want to pay their fair amount of income tax.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=5086554#post5086554

[Nick Terry]

Another HDer, little grey rabbit, puts foot in mouth (http://rodohforum.yuku.com/reply/139857/t/A-challenge-to-the-Moose-and-the-bunny.html#reply-139857)

There is a large amount of work that needs to be done to unravel the Hoaxsters mess on one single incident, it is unreasonable to expect that can be repeated for 30 incidents or that even enough anomalies were left for someone to find.

[Dr Adequate]

A wingnut (http://thegundeck.blogspot.com/) gives us a masterclass in how to make one's paranoid delusions unfalsifiable (bolding mine):

Obama is following in the footsteps of Hitler, step-for-step. Do not be shocked if we soon learn of an "Obama Youth Corps", identical to Hitler's Youth Corps.

This is beyond scary. This is Horrible. A United States President is trying to brainwash and control the youth of America, with the willing assistance of schools and school teachers nationwide, along with the communist-infiltrated NEA.

If you have children in school, you are being betrayed by those who claim to be their educators. They are stealing your children and your nation.

ADDENDUM:
News of this has gone viral, exploding across the country with amazing speed.

As a result, you can guarantee that Obama's little talk to the kiddies will be innocent as can be, as American as apple pie.

[beachnut]

I'd appreciate it if you OCT types would stop dropping the 'T' word around us. You be dissin da truth.



No more 'T' bombs, mmmkay? kthxbye.

http://www.ae911truth.org/info/92
He should win the extra credit special stupid for adding this to his rant.

Had any of the show’s producers bothered to research Dr. William Pepper’s exoneration of Martin Luther King’s alleged assassin, James Earl Ray, in a civil trial in 1999, they would have learned that there was in fact a bona fide conspiracy to murder King that was conducted by agencies within the US government and the Memphis police department. US Army snipers followed orders, taking up a position as backup shooters, without knowing why they were so ordered. They were never ordered to shoot because the primary shooter did his job. After realizing what they had been made part of, several of them left the US and went into hiding
http://www.ae911truth.org/info/92 How insane does the information have to be for Gage to post it at his web site of moronic delusions? Gage needs the money to tour the earth to spread his delusions.
I better save the page before Gage returns from what appears to be a very short trip to the land of super stupid. The trip back to reality must be harder to make.

[Grizzly Bear]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3RpNSF-er88&feature=related
glipzik (1 hour ago) Show Hide
Bigmuffexpress,
I would suggest you get yourself a thunderbird, floor that sucker to 150 miles an hour and drive it right into a big semi or dump truck since you don't believe the laws of physics.
If a 140 ton aluminum airplane can go through a 500,000 ton steel and concrete building like a knife through butter, a one ton thunderbird should have no problem cutting right through a 3-4 ton truck.

What does thou think of this?

[triforcharity]

His scale is a slight bit off, not to mention the mass involved.....

But, a GREAT find!! And, I don't know of a 1980's Thunderbird that can do 150 mph. But, hey, what do I know.

[Travis]

I'm thinking RocketsledThunderbird time!

[defaultdotxbe]

His scale is a slight bit off, not to mention the mass involved.....

But, a GREAT find!! And, I don't know of a 1980's Thunderbird that can do 150 mph. But, hey, what do I know.
my 87 tbird's speedometer only went up to 85, the owners manual said that was the max speed of the car, but it went faster ;) dont think it could quite hit 150 though

i also have a 96, the computer cuts the fuel at 100mph :mad:


of course im sure if i plowed either of them into the side of a semi truck trailer at 150mph theyd punch right through it, of course what comes out the other side probably wont be much of a thunderbird anymore lol

[patchbunny]

Is it cheating to post links to the David Icke forums? 'cause the stupidity there is just so thick, it just feels wrong.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1250069&postcount=287

"If the atom bomb was anything more than wishful thinking we could imagine a submarine commander going rogue and pounding any nation on the planet back to the stone age, maybe most of them, to smitherines with only the firepower onboard. The rogue sub could launch from the continental shelf of the US for example and knock out her command centres with lightning fast nuclear strikes. The sub would strike one city, submerge, reappear at a more northern position on the coastline and strike again with apparent impunity. Then they could go around the continent and strike the other coasts with as much fury. The reason this has never occured is because the atom bomb claims are bogus."

[defaultdotxbe]

Is it cheating to post links to the David Icke forums? 'cause the stupidity there is just so thick, it just feels wrong.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1250069&postcount=287

"If the atom bomb was anything more than wishful thinking we could imagine a submarine commander going rogue and pounding any nation on the planet back to the stone age, maybe most of them, to smitherines with only the firepower onboard. The rogue sub could launch from the continental shelf of the US for example and knock out her command centres with lightning fast nuclear strikes. The sub would strike one city, submerge, reappear at a more northern position on the coastline and strike again with apparent impunity. Then they could go around the continent and strike the other coasts with as much fury. The reason this has never occured is because the atom bomb claims are bogus."
was that the same thread where a guy said TNT emits xrays? was a nom last month i believe, lol

[Horatius]

As per this discussion:

Can I formally nominate them all for the first Mass Group Stundie Award? No voting, no competition, just a straight up acknowledgment of one of the largest mass face-plantings of modern times?

Knock yourself out. Trying to find individually good ones is hard considering the overwhelming mass of idiocy they present.

Seconded.


I hereby formally nominate all the AJ Die'Tards (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=5088040#post5088040) for the first ever Mass Group Stundie Award.


Here they are, in all their glory, lovingly compiled by New Guy deRoy:




http://www.infowars.com/twenty-minutes-with-the-president/#

In a fake interview with the President written by Charlie Sheen as an interest piece, the Sheenster's idea backfires and inadvertently exposes the critical thinking skills of infofailures everywhere.

Not surprisingly, comments have since been disabled.

great interview, lets see what comes of it.
The same people who caused 9/11 are the same EVIL SCUM who put this moron puppet in office talking to him behind closed doors WTF is that going to do??? Nothing!!!
Great Job Charlie!

A few notable responses you should remember by President Obama: [insert criticisms of Obama's responses]
If this does not convince obama to do something nothing will!great job charlie!
I rarely read the comments on Infowars because they usually digress to subjects unrelated to the original story. However, I am heartened to see the positive response to this posting. The government shills are standing out here like unburned passports at Ground Zero. Were the subject not so grave, their comments would be quite humorous.

To belittle this interview and the courage it took to both request it and carry it out, one must have no concept of the real world and what it would take to get an audience with the president of the U.S., no matter who he or she might be, or be receiving payment to try and do so.

The gravity of directly questioning the president about inconsistencies in the official story of the most influential event in any of our lifetimes is overwhelming. And, when this interview is included in “Fall of the Republic” and spread around the world on YouTube, it might break the whole 9/11 lie wide open.

Thanks Charlie.
excellent job charlie! glad to see some real questions asked of these criminals. next step is to arrest all these traitors for treason and take this country back.
WOW.. he REALLY did a good job. I sure hope this makes a difference for you in the US. It used to be a great country but nowadays… I won’t spend my holydays overthere anymore.
Fantastic job, Charlie!

Unfortunately it was quite clear that Obama resisted everything you said – despite all of the evidence you presented.

On the bright side, you have supplied us with a great link to send to those who can’t see the truth, to help them open their eyes.

Thank you for so boldy standing up for “We the people.” You are a brave Patriot!
absolutely fascinating…

wonderful job charlie!

Rather immodest of the president to judge himself as on the right side of history, already – shouldn’t that be our job once he’s done?
Like Obama did not allready know of all of this.It is not like he is not briefed the socalled secrets, anyone with some sense knows the official story is bunk.I dont understand what the fuzz is about.How many celebrities does it take to change politics? Do the two even have a relation and if so,.. is not hollywood also under the current corruption? Why would anyone think Obama is going to suddenly turn around? He is just as much part of the global agenda as any other president has been for the last decades or more.Why would that change? I saw a video from Naomi Wolf about ten steps to fascism,it looks alot like what is happening here in my country, just as it is in America.
I’m holding out to hear the show before I soil myself in glee. Whatever the case, this is going to be a massive counterpunch from the Nat-Geo and other hit pieces being cooked up in their death rattle desperation. The real bits of evidence Charlie raises will be covered in the mainstream. More minds to our side. Critical mass is coming.
people like this—that operate on inner integrity
always shine through

the 911coverup is falling like a house of cards

charlie stuck to his guns—-waited for the right moment to do his particular part

executed flawlessly
I think we’d all like to think that we’d have the balls to take it to the President
but in reality we don’t
Charlie has some big balls
well done to him!
OMG, Charlie Sheen has become a legend right now. And some said he walked away from 9/11 truth.

He can die any moment with a smiling face and he can say he told the truth to the US-president. And everything is well documented for his fellow americans and offspring. The Sheens are a great familly.
Charlie went toe to toe with the President where most people would have crumbled under the inherent intimitdation factor alone. The transcript of the interview would make a really good script for a scene in a feature length movie. If I was writing the movie script, the next part would involve the presendent forming a secret investigative team to get to the bottom of it and bring the real perps to justice.
WOW !!! WOW !!!! WOW !!!! WOW !!!!!……….CHARLIE SHEEN, THANK YOU !!!! YOU TOLD THAT BARRY SOETORO EVERYTHING I WOULD WANT TO SAY TO HIM, AND YOU DID IT WAY MORE CALMLY THEN I WOULD……….AMAZING !!!!! YOU HAVE BIG ONES…..HUGE…..THANK YOU ALEX AND THANK YOU CHARLIE…..YOU TWO GUYS ARE BEYOND PATRIOTIC !!!! GOD BLESS YOU AND PROTECT YOU AND YOUR FAMILIES !!!!
Well done Charlie Sheen.
No doubt about it now, we WILL now know which side of traitors gate Mr Obama chooses to stand.
If he has nothing to hide he won`t cover for any past wrongdoings by any govt official.
So the choice is crystal clear – Show us the new investigation or join an illustrious group of liars.
Where is the tape. I bet there isnt a tape or it somehow got “distorted”
I am speechless..

WOW way to go Charlie ..Great JOB
This day belongs to US!! We’re seriously kicking some NWO tail here people, we’ve got a real chance now to tear down this house of cards – the life of liberty shall be ours once again!!!
Wow! Mr. Sheen, very impressive. Calm, collected and focused. Sheen is certainly on the right side of history!

Obama is certainly the maximum puppet but maybe Sheen’s last words sunk into Obama’s head. O is an egomaniac, enough so that he might want to be remembered for doing something for the people rather than bringing down the republic…heh I can “hope” so
Good Job Charlie!

Our generation speaks out…Finally!
its pretty obvious that bush/obama knows what happen . how can any official be trusted that acts so indifferent to evidence and truth. hes in on it. just like most of our govt. officials
I can’t discount what you’ve said 40 times. I really hope the audio or video will be available at 11:00
Way to go Charlie good good work! MEGA IMPRESSED!
Can you emagine for a moment Abe Lincoln or Thomas Jefferson being approached by Charlie Sheen with evidence on the greatest crime of this nation’s history? Can you emagine President Jefferson saying, “You only have 20 minutes,” while his “handlers” stand at the doorway holding a stopwatch? Charlie only gets 20 minutes, but Obama can play golf for hours, or vacation at Cape Cod for days, or go out on the town, or travel, or talk about staying in school to school children. Yet, he cannot give Charlie Sheen more than 20 minutes of his time on a matter that demands as much time as it takes to lay the facts out on the table and dissect it. That’s what Jefferson would have done.
It is HUGE news this, you dimwit.
We all need to copy this action with out local representatives in Government. Don’t let it end here. Deliver these documents. Hopefully Charlie will provide a link to what exactly he gave the President. I know We Are Change LA posted links to what they have been delivering to politicians.

We can’t just wait for Charlie or some other celebrity to do the work. We must be the media and spread this and the information around. Peace.
I don’t know how Charlie Sheen can even walk with balls that large. Keep pounding on the wall, the cracks are showing and the rats inside are getting way nervous. Unfortunately that probably means they’re about to hit us with another falseflag. Tomorrow is 9-9-09. I’m not feeling really comfortable about that.

One last thought…..how much you want to bet this interview never sees the light of day on the MSM.
Don’t be too harsh on Obama, at least he agreed to listen for 20 minutes. That has to count for something?
I’d really like to see the video, or listen to the audio of this conversation.

If everything went exactly as the transcript says, than Charlie Sheen laid Obama’s ass out flat with the facts. Obama’s responses were as arrogant as ever though. What a joke.
Alex Jones,
I don’t know whether to laugh or cry.

A REAL American FINALLY confronted President Obama, told him exactly WHY he was full of empty promises and WORSE THAN BUSH, and Barack didn’t have a DAMN thing to say about it. Not even a denial.
I too am very impressed with this interview, and Mr. Sheen’s courage in speaking to the President so bluntly on these issues. I also commend him on how well prepared he was for the meeting.

I truly hope that information from AE9/11 Truth information was included in those files, as well as the recent published information regarding the un-ignited Thermite that was found in the dust from the WTC complex.

Good Job Charlie. – This “could” be the electric shot to the heart that gets the entire country animated about these things. I pray that you to will fair well and weather the coming media storm that is no doubt going to develop around you.
This has nothing to do with his credibility Mr. Bwaha. He merely was able to use his fame to get a meeting with the president to present facts and ask Obama what he intended to do about it.
Charlie Sheen is the real deal!
Your name will be written in gold in future historybooks.
This was truly amazing. No doubt this was sheen talking to satan the devil using obama as a mouthpiece. obama just seethes with wicked energy. Regardless of the outcome sheen put it right in his face that the american people know about false flags. So dont try another one you scumbag bankers! bravo sheen! im gonna watch red dawn again charlie is just amazing. if only other actors had a backbone like him. charlie, willie nelson and ventura and many others there will be books written about your valiant deeds in these dark times. every actor and singer needs to come forward. cuz this world is entertainment driven. if we bust that reality WE WIN.

LONG LIVE THE REPUBLIC
Excellent work, Mr. Sheen. It is good to see a person with clout step up to the plate and speak truth to power.

Don’t forget the Port Authority Transcripts that describe the basement level explosion and destruction….that can be read at the website, http://dotheordersstillstand.blogspot.com/
Thanks Charlie!!
I do hope you have audio.
It will be chilling to hear how condescending the President sounds…

His lazy “move forward” rhetoric is extremely disturbing. As Charlie put it: it shapes the thinking of all those under the sway of the Neo-Con media (NYTimes included)

Wouldn’t it be great if President Obama took this opportunity to go underground in Mt. Weather or wherever and went all Constitutional and Justicey on the real life war criminals that brought us Al Qaeda, invasions, torture, and overturned Corporate Personhood. We’d actually love him and sing his praises.. he’s probably even be reelected legitimately, as would his daughters’ daughters.

Instead, he will play dumb to save his good standing with his CFR commanders, the Queen, and the Erik Prince/Dick Cheney/G. Gordon Liddy types… oh and the ability to use all the spying, terrorism, Blackwater, renditions, FBI setups, to improve his flagging ratings…
gotta hate when PBO says, “we need to move on.” when he doubled (quadrupled?) troop levels in afghanistan.. ugh!
Fantastic. Now we know the level of corruption – truly know. Charlie is the man! Can’t do anything about this one trolls! The article speaks for itself.
Respect Charlie! Good work!

Let’s just hope this goes out to the mainstream media now…
Finally, an American with balls! That is the way EVERY American should do it and demand!
Wow, just wow!! Way to go Charlie, that’s the way to shake them up.
OMFG!!!
Charlie Sheen The Greatest American Hero…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9Q3orQhEcA
I’m bleeping astounded that this went down..
Not a homo-ghey..
But I have a HUGE mancrush on CS right now!!!
“Those that make peaceful revolution impossible, serve to make violent revolution inevitable..” JFK
Obama is a master politician. How many did he fool into thinking he was above politics? When, in fact that schtick was just politics? Now, he still stays those against Govt. Health Care are playing the “same political games”. He has framed the argument in a fascist way just like Bush. While Bush said you’re with us or not patriotic, Obama says you’re with us or you’re just being political. More games is all we’re getting. There were several follow up investigations (3, I think) to the JFK assassination, and they didn’t end the controversy. I think Obama might create another investigation, which, being composed of insiders, might make a few inconsequential concessions about 9/11, but really not do a whole lot. I hope I’m wrong. Well, but I think Obama will be useful for our country in the end. If the master orator who got everyone’s hopes up fails, everyone’s gonna see past this 2 party scheme and we’ll finally get some actual change. Well, I hope.
This is very big. I wonder if the controlled main stream media will do any reporting on this? I doubt it
Amazing, absolutely amazing! Spoken with eloquence, articulation, and grace. WHERE’s the mini cam documenting this momentous act?
There is no doubt about it, Charlie is a true Patriot. If and I say IF the tide turns for us, then I change my mind about Obama. Let’s see which way the cat jumps before we get all excited. All the same it was great of Charlie to do this.
This is incredible and could be one of the most important steps forward in the history of the 9/11 truth movement! Thank you Charlie Sheen for using your celebrity to get an audience with Obama and for holding Obama to task…very courageously I must add.
When Sheen calls out Obama for following the Bush regime by making idle promises, Obama uses a tactic called deflection to avoid answering these allegations.

When Obama says we need to move forward, he is disrespecting a nation who is still in mourning of 911.

Please, people, DO NOT VOTE FOR ANYONE WHO ISN’T WILLING TO REINVESTIGATE 911!!!!
Wow, I’m sure that took a lot of courage and prep, go Charlie! I hope this isn’t all what the big news is though b/c it really won’t change anything. Alex was speaking as if it would be something revolutionary. Maybe he knows somehow there will be a new, “real” investigation of 9/11?
Nice work! Where’s the youtube link too? =)
I echo an earlier sentiment that from the answers Obama gave, it would be a real surprise if he does anything with this info. He is part of the problem, not part of the solution. Hope I am wrong, but I don’t see him interupting his agenda to pursue this course. Bush was really bad, but Obama is destined to be much worse if he is not already.
holy ******! whole new respect for charlie sheen!! obama won’t do a thing and that BETTER prove to you sheep out there that the left right paradigm is just good cop bad cop…. the divide and conquer tactic meant to enslave us all. great job charlie!!
It sounds scripted because Obama is an actor.
hell yeah! lets see what’s up now. I almost have faith something might happen. It has too, the revolution started when the internet was born it just took time to reach maturity.
Obama sounds like a HAL2000 without the awareness aspect.

See, Bill Clinton would have had Charlie in tears with his emotional responses, and may very well have converted Charlie from 911 Truth.
It’s amazing. People say Obama is like Carter. I disagree. He’s more of the Reagan style puppet.
Lights, camera, action. Which is better than the stuttering, sputtering, retarded puppet W.

Never get another Clinton.
The President was just as smooth and prepared as Charlie Sheen. He seemed to be VERY familiar with all the “conspiracy theory” arguments, even going so far as to have the PNAC document’s “New Pearl Harbor” text memorized? His response was too ready– he had definitely done his homework to be prepared for this type of questioning.

This is very telling. Obama has studied the 9/11 conspiracy issue in detail! Why would the President know the issues backwards and forwards if they are completely unfounded and “kooky”?
This is cool, but don’t you think the Pres. already knew a lot about this, and was probably playing dumb to avoid any sort of accountability? I’m afraid that might be it. Lots of courage by Sheen, especially when he listed the civil rights abuses continued by Obama- I would have liked to see the look on his face. Hopefully the Pres. got back and that is the big announcement!
Wow…
Hope there is video or audio reccording of this interview…
If there is, and it makes it to the mainstream news, there must be some kind of official reaction from the administration.
Charlie sure has som big cojones.
Respect!
The Prez got schooled by Charlie Sheen. LOL… ya gotta love it.
Thanks Charlie and Alex Jones for this, it really is some big news.
this is amazing! sheen breaking out his wearechange!!!
It won’t. It will be swept under the rug or at best dismissed by the talking heads as an ambush on the Messiah by crazy conspiracy theorist Charlie Sheen.
It’s going to be interesting to see how this unfolds in the mainstream media…
God bless you, Charlie!!!

You’ve got guts, and guts is enough! (I know, wrong Vietnam movie, but it still applies.)
Uh, wow.Obama will just try to ignore this. But now all 9/11 truth seekers will know their savior is bought and paid for.
Thank you Mr. Sheen and thank you Alex Jones I hope Obama takes advantage of this and gets on the right side before it’s too late! This is awsome stuff and deserves to be paid attention to without a doubt. It’s been too long. Also, just seeing where this goes before the so-called self-annointed “elite” have any further chance of taking this country down will be foremost in my list of things to do. Mr. Sheen’s report states that we have lost a LOT since 9-11 tho I believe we can still fall a lot further, but acknowledgement of these facts can lead down this trail and let everyone see the WHOLE truth about WHO is behind all this…Bildebergs, Rothchilds’, etc and the history behind it all and WHY. The thing I find interresting is how Obama will handle this. Because of Mr. Sheen’s guts and how he was armed with so much evidence, if Obama continues this sherad, we will know where he stands for sure and he will be held as accountable as the rest of these scallywags. On the other hand, should Obama decide to launch an HONEST investigation and the truth comes out, HE ( Obama ) will appear to have been “the one” who lead this investigation and take credit for it as our “savior”. If the latter is the case, I am also wondering how he will hold those responsible to account. Then there’s the scenario of another falsed investigation filled with more lies mixed with half-truths to further confuse and deceive. THIS should be VERY interresting indeed!
Wow!

I see charlie in a new light now, that interview was amazing, Obama certainly entertained Sheen’s questions. I wonder if anything will come of this interview??

….And I thought Alex was talking s***e about an amazing feature on infowars, well done Mr Jones, you’ve prooven me wrong!! :D
My gut feeling is that Obama dumped the folders in the trash on his way out…
Wow!! I hope that this was filmed because I would love to see the NWO’s puppet’s body language. From his responses he gave, he appear to be surprised that he was not talking to Charlie Sheen the actor but he was talking to a true American!!
Brilliant job, Charlie! Extremely well done! Now everybody tkows the President knows the truth. What he does with it is another matter.

Charlie Sheen is a brilliant interviewer. Wow!
Thank You Mr. Sheen!

I am very saddened, though, because I feel our President will not follow up on this whatsoever. He made it clear in his responses.
Any hope that could come from this comes from the belief that the president didn’t already know all of this. As if !!!!
Obama has in his hands the fate of America. He can act to heal the nation, or continue to poison it with the darkness of ignorance and deceit. No longer can he deny that he does not have the facts. Charlie Sheen did a remarkable job in presenting the hard evidence in a very short time span. For the President to deny any further time for Charlie screams of Obama running scared. He is hiding behind his handlers. I hope, for the sake of the victims of 911, that he grows a spine. Regardless of what Obama does, America is undergoing an Awakening. He can choose to be with us, or choose the path of treason.
Someone lost their job over that interview. I can just imagine the President being pissed. You have to realize that the President must already know all of this. He surly was not allowed to be the President and not know that this took place. It is just my guess but it stands to reason.
Wow, what a badass. Charlie Sheen has the BIGGEST BALLS.
Wow! I will definately be listening today. It seemed to me that the president was aware of what Charlie was saying, and when he said they just wanted to protect us I about lost it! Let’s hope he actually does something, I mean he is still speaking to our kids today, well not mine. I just can’t shake the evil chill when i hear him speak. Job well done, Charlie and Alex. (And everyone behind you guys that we don’t see.)
EXACTLY! “Obama” already knows all about what Sheen presented him with;

indeed he was briefed by Bush/ Cheney years before he was “INSTALLED”

as president BY THE ILLUMINATI.

If THIS is the BIG NEWS, ITS A HELL OF A PIKER; NO NEWS AT ALL.

OBAMA IS A LIAR. HE WILL DO NOTHING BUT FURTHER THE

DISSOLUTION OF OUR REPUBLIC.
Incredible. Now there is no excuse for Barack Obama. His administration must investigate this matter or collapse into flames. The choice is theirs.
yeah….you are right….the shadow govt has a BIG spotlight on them right now….
Wow, he interviews the puppet as if he weren’t aware it was an inside job… um bilderberg? the grove? *yawn*
Oh Wow this shizz is big go Alex my man
my jaw is just hanging open right now…….
I think the reason Sheen got to interview Obama is because he is a celebrity, and Obama wasn”t expecting any dificult questions
PAUL/SHEEN 2012
Follows up on this? Are you serious?

It sounds like he has no interest in following up on this. He said it’s “history”.
There’s no way this is going to make a shred of difference, but I commend Charlie’s zeal, like the President says.

There’s about as much chance of this Wall Street-sponsored suit abolishing the Fed as investigating 9/11.

New boss – same as the old boss
obama wont follow up on ****. he knows whats up…and he knows 9/11 was an inside job…he just CANT divulge it without the sheeples waking up en mass.

Imagine the headline “Obama admits 9/11 inside job” on every major newspaper.

teh sheeples wouldn’t know WTF to do.
it would be the same as

“shadow govt runs US says Obama”

economic collapse, societal unrest, etc..would soon follow…

those of us armed with the truth are few and far between, but our numbers are growing.

the info war is real, the shadow government is real, and we are in a fight for our lives..

God bless Charlie Sheen, Alex Jones, Steven Jonens, and all the others whos work has led us to this point..keep the momentum up, and all of you keep recruiting infowarriors!!!
Obama probably won’t follow up on it opening himself up to questions about it until he leaves office. This will be on public record so he will constantly be dogged by it until he has to address it in some fashion.

Great pointed question by Sheen, someone that has the ability to meet with Obama should have done this and he did. nobody else has stepped up to the plate so you gotta give Sheen respect for his effort.
I’m a little surprised that Barry didn’t pop a cap in his ass right there. If this is just a taste of what’s coming up, I’m very excited!!
Be nice to charlie, we have all gone through the process of trying to beg to our masters to restore the republic. The sold out leaders are only interested in money and power. When barry says he wants us to move on, he does not mean move on to restore the republic he means move on with the NWO and flu pandemics and martial law. Thanks again charlie, don’t take the flu vaccine shot cause I am sure they have a special one for you now.
If there is a lack of further investigation, any failure to address Mr. Sheen’s highly documented concerns, we will know on which side the POTUS has stood, is currently standing, and will remain standing.

When evidence (nano-thermite found at Ground Zero) was delivered to a CA judge as proof of Treason the judge effectively asked the Patriot, “What am I supposed to do with this?”

YOU ARE TO AT ALL TIMES SEEK JUSTICE!

If justice is not sought after, with passion, we then have a failed state. AG Eric Holder has failed in his position. It then becomes the DUTY of the Free People of the United States to alter or abolish the “agreement” we have with those that have been “elected” to represent the People.

Charlie Sheen is a Patriot.

We must follow his example.

We know who the traitors are. They voted for bailouts. They dismiss true concerns, backed with hard evidence, as “conspiracy theory”. The People must bring about justice if their representatives do not.
Absolutely! Balls the size of TEXAS! Right on sheen! You give us hope!
wow! this is incredible. I really hope Obama follows up on THIS!

:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp:jaw-dropp

[patchbunny]

was that the same thread where a guy said TNT emits xrays? was a nom last month i believe, lol

Yup, same thread.

[triforcharity]

This is comedic PLATINUM!!! Holy snikeys Batman!!! Nobody read the complete story eh??? Typical!!

[Travis]

Is it cheating to post links to the David Icke forums? 'cause the stupidity there is just so thick, it just feels wrong.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1250069&postcount=287

"If the atom bomb was anything more than wishful thinking we could imagine a submarine commander going rogue and pounding any nation on the planet back to the stone age, maybe most of them, to smitherines with only the firepower onboard. The rogue sub could launch from the continental shelf of the US for example and knock out her command centres with lightning fast nuclear strikes. The sub would strike one city, submerge, reappear at a more northern position on the coastline and strike again with apparent impunity. Then they could go around the continent and strike the other coasts with as much fury. The reason this has never occured is because the atom bomb claims are bogus."

Perhaps this is why being in charge of a Boomer is something the US Navy takes very seriously. It's also probably why there are multiple launch keys.

[Elizabeth I]

If the atom bomb was anything more than wishful thinking we could imagine a submarine commander going rogue and pounding any nation on the planet back to the stone age, maybe most of them, to smitherines with only the firepower onboard. The rogue sub could launch from the continental shelf of the US for example and knock out her command centres with lightning fast nuclear strikes. The sub would strike one city, submerge, reappear at a more northern position on the coastline and strike again with apparent impunity. Then they could go around the continent and strike the other coasts with as much fury. The reason this has never occured is because the atom bomb claims are bogus.

I'm sure that's a great comfort to the inhabitants of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

[sylvan8798]

Is it cheating to post links to the David Icke forums? 'cause the stupidity there is just so thick, it just feels wrong.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1250069&postcount=287

"If the atom bomb was anything more than wishful thinking we could imagine a submarine commander going rogue and pounding any nation on the planet back to the stone age, maybe most of them, to smitherines with only the firepower onboard. The rogue sub could launch from the continental shelf of the US for example and knock out her command centres with lightning fast nuclear strikes. The sub would strike one city, submerge, reappear at a more northern position on the coastline and strike again with apparent impunity. Then they could go around the continent and strike the other coasts with as much fury. The reason this has never occured is because the atom bomb claims are bogus."

Is there a word for "so far beyond stupid it is unprintable in a public forum"?

Just when you think you've seen the outer limits of stupid, someone proves you wrong.:jaw-dropp

[Klimax]

Is it cheating to post links to the David Icke forums? 'cause the stupidity there is just so thick, it just feels wrong.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1250069&postcount=287

"If the atom bomb was anything more than wishful thinking we could imagine a submarine commander going rogue and pounding any nation on the planet back to the stone age, maybe most of them, to smitherines with only the firepower onboard. The rogue sub could launch from the continental shelf of the US for example and knock out her command centres with lightning fast nuclear strikes. The sub would strike one city, submerge, reappear at a more northern position on the coastline and strike again with apparent impunity. Then they could go around the continent and strike the other coasts with as much fury. The reason this has never occured is because the atom bomb claims are bogus."

I could almost feel same absolute stupidity as from previous link to flatearthsociety...

[Grizzly Bear]

No-planers are epic!!!!
For some context this was a response I made to him and his response:
Yes it's true... I made everything about connection failures up. There's absolutely no way you can find them in one of thousands of construction, engineering, and architecture books... absolutely none! [/sarc

glipzik (7 hours ago)

I doubt that you have read that many books. The buildings were turned to nano dust and there is no way to determine from the rubble if any of your conclusions or those of 10,000 paid "experts" is true. You have been punk'd.

[Dr Adequate]

Is it cheating to post links to the David Icke forums? 'cause the stupidity there is just so thick, it just feels wrong.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1250069&postcount=287

"If the atom bomb was anything more than wishful thinking we could imagine a submarine commander going rogue and pounding any nation on the planet back to the stone age, maybe most of them, to smitherines with only the firepower onboard. The rogue sub could launch from the continental shelf of the US for example and knock out her command centres with lightning fast nuclear strikes. The sub would strike one city, submerge, reappear at a more northern position on the coastline and strike again with apparent impunity. Then they could go around the continent and strike the other coasts with as much fury. The reason this has never occured is because the atom bomb claims are bogus." It's been done.

Watch in amazement as this guy (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=65869) proves that not only are there no nuclear bombs, there is also no such thing as nuclear power and no such thing as radioactivity. The existence of unstable isotopes is just a big lie perpetrated by ...

... go, on, have a guess.

Yes, it's the Joos.

P.S: I nominate everything that that guy has ever written, said, thought, or done.

[8den]

Uprising on boards.ie has a classic

I've been taking 5000iu of vitamin D per day for the past couple of weeks and now I'm going to go one step further and try catch swine flu from the first person I come across who contracts it, I'll intentionally do everything possible to try catch it, just to test my theory, I'll be my own guinepig.

EDIT: To prove I am serious, if anybody reading this know's anybody that currently has swine flu and would be willing to infect me please contact me. All in the name of science of course.

http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055676711

[Longfellow]

I doubt that you have read that many books. The buildings were turned to nano dust and there is no way to determine from the rubble if any of your conclusions or those of 10,000 paid "experts" is true. You have been punk'd.

1,000 paid debunkers was funny enough but 10,000? Why in the world would the Great Owl need so many more debunkers than 'truthers'?

On the other hand: Given the fact that the handful of followers of '9/11 truth' who have been banned here still see the need to create multiple sock-puppets in order to continue posting their garbage here, thus greatly inflating their person-to-post ratio, I suppose the Great Owl could be watching out for us. Didn't want our workload to overwhelm us, ya know.

Thank you o great and wonderful Owl. :cry1

[Elizabeth I]

It's been done.

Watch in amazement as this guy (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=65869) proves that not only are there no nuclear bombs, there is also no such thing as nuclear power and no such thing as radioactivity. The existence of unstable isotopes is just a big lie perpetrated by ...

... go, on, have a guess.

Yes, it's the Joos.

P.S: I nominate everything that that guy has ever written, said, thought, or done.

People like that guy make me tired.

[Debaser]

No-planers are epic!!!!
For some context this was a response I made to him and his response:


glipzik (7 hours ago)


Actually glipzik is behind the times. I'm currently working on a paper which PROVES that the Twin Towers were reduced to YOCTO-dust!!!111!!! :eye-poppi

Anyone says it was even Femto-dust is a paid shill !!!111!!!! :boxedin:



Nano dust...Ay caramba...Can't we put some of those...ahem...'lost' trillions of dollars to use and bribe 'The Movement' to stop applying nano to every noun? How 'bout we replace it with crypto- ? I like crypto- . Crypto-thermite, now there's the stuff that should have been used. Or what's that material the Israelis make, crypto-semite or something?

[Redtail]

His scale is a slight bit off, not to mention the mass involved.....

But, a GREAT find!! And, I don't know of a 1980's Thunderbird that can do 150 mph. But, hey, what do I know.
http://z.about.com/d/nascar/1/0/l/B/1987-BillElliott.jpg

[Redtail]

Is there a word for "so far beyond stupid it is unprintable in a public forum"?

Just when you think you've seen the outer limits of stupid, someone proves you wrong.:jaw-dropp

Yeah it's "Singleidiocy" Def: When the stupid is so dense if forms a black hole somewhere in the universe.

[dudalb]

I nominate bill smith, for how ,24 hours after Jones admitted the Sheen/Obama was an interview was a fake, was still maintaining it was real.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=153247&page=5

The fun starts at post 194

[Trojan_Jockey]

How about this suggestion from Smeggypants, or the artist known to us as 'Tin Foil Timothy'. Shame he isn't around any more. Apparently the reason Saudi Arabia is rich and Lebanon isn't is because the Saudis are friendly to the 'Zionists'. I mean, they have just as much oil in Lebanon, and Syria's planned economy is not to blame at all, right kids?

Indeed. But ultimately the unfriendly Arab World is being kept poor by the Zionists. Look at the difference between the Zionist Friendly Arab World - Saudi, UAE, Bahrain, Kuwait, etc - Extremely rich countries, and the Arab World that is hostile to Zionism, Iran, Iraq,Syria, Lebanon, 'Palestine', etc which although they have just as many natural resources are not allowed to become economically powerful.

http://www.smeggys.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12697&st=0&sk=t&sd=a&start=60#p263595

[WildCat]

I'm sure that's a great comfort to the inhabitants of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Those were actually sooper-nano-therm*te bombs.

[triforcharity]

http://z.about.com/d/nascar/1/0/l/B/1987-BillElliott.jpg

I stand corrected.

Let me re-phrase that.

I doubt that any regular production Thunderbird (NOT NASCAR!! lol) could top 150 MPH.

That better for you?? :o

[Travis]

Uprising on boards.ie has a classic



http://boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2055676711

It's nice to see people aspiring to the Darwin Awards as well.

[Horatius]

Okay, here's a good one....From a fellow named "frase" on David Icke's forum, talking to Former Truther, now debunker, and JREF member, joe911...in a thread about Brainster's recent radio smackdown with Dildo Avery (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=153423)....


Joe.....if you can't see 9/11 was an inside job, then you really are on the wrong site.... You keep believing in the big bad boogeyman in the cave being behind it.


Because, of course it's joe911 who believes "in the big bad boogeyman"....according to the guys on the site dedicated to theories about Totalitarian Space Lizards......



http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1260560&postcount=53

[Horatius]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1260560&postcount=53



Holy crap, it just gets better from there....Here's a time-sensitive Stundie....Again, talking about Joe.....I'm guessing before the Big Reveal.....


lol 16 year old kid will debunk 9/11 on David Icke website in the midst of Charlie Sheen heroic act. You are one sorry ass kid living in a dream world but I will forgive you because you are a kid.


ETA: He even gets Joe's age wrong.... (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1260633&postcount=59)

[sylvan8798]

Holy crap, it just gets better from there....Here's a time-sensitive Stundie....Again, talking about Joe.....I'm guessing before the Big Reveal.....





ETA: He even gets Joe's age wrong.... (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1260633&postcount=59)

Post #71 has Joe's response to an edited post by the same guy. Can't even copy it here, but regardless of Joe's personal life, it is indicative of just how despicably low a truther can get:eye-poppi. Maybe someone will capture it before it gets "edited" as well.

[Horatius]

Post #71 has Joe's response to an edited post by the same guy. Can't even copy it here, but regardless of Joe's personal life, it is indicative of just how despicably low a truther can get:eye-poppi. Maybe someone will capture it before it gets "edited" as well.



I recall the post you mention. It would seem to violate JREF policies about personal information to quote it, but it does illustrate exactly how scummy these guys really are, when you recall Joe's actual age.


Props to Joe for standing up in the face of that crap.

[gtc]

I nominate Gray Brcechin (http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/11/truth_petition/index.html)'visiting scholar at the University of California at Berkeley's Department of Geography'.

Until recently, I thought that I (like Van Jones) live in a country with a First Amendment that permits freedom of speech, thought and petition without fear of reprisal.

...

Since when did Salon permit Glenn Beck and the almost equally loony WSJ editorial page to set the terms of discussion, calling those who want answers to so much that remains unexplained about 9/11 "truthers" and thus giving them equivalence with "birthers," "deathers" and "tea baggers"?

...

Since when was he not entitled to his opinions, past or present? Was it when he was born black and inexcusably smart? Jones is the kind of visionary with whom Franklin Roosevelt surrounded himself but of which the Obama administration is almost entirely bereft, and now that administration has shamefully thrown him to the sharks.

Thanks to Sporanox for pointing this out.

[gtc]

Wow.

Major props to Joe911 for the way he dealt with those personal attacks.

[Sporanox]

Welcome, thanks for adding it.

[Redtail]

Holy crap, it just gets better from there....Here's a time-sensitive Stundie....Again, talking about Joe.....I'm guessing before the Big Reveal.....





ETA: He even gets Joe's age wrong.... (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1260633&postcount=59)

:eye-poppi Wow....

[triforcharity]

I would like to nominate kylebisme for the following

put simply, the buildings could have been rigged to blow for the sake of public safety. Imagine how much much death and destruction would have resulted had the top of the building slid off the side. Then imagine how even more horrific the results would have been had the towers been toppled over after being bombed at their bases.

PUBLIC SAFETY = RIGGING BUILDINGS FOR CONTROLLED DEMO, Just in caase!!

this is a goldmine of stupidity.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=5094896#post5094896

[Horatius]

I would like to nominate kylebisme for the following



PUBLIC SAFETY = RIGGING BUILDINGS FOR CONTROLLED DEMO, Just in caase!!

this is a goldmine of stupidity.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=5094896#post5094896


I'm going to have to go ahead, and agree with LashL here (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=5094922#post5094922), there's only one twoofer who has ever advocated the "CD in the public interest" theory....

[Mongrel]

CHF spotted these nice quotes from Black Krishna from a Toronto truther site (my bold to highlight the cognitive dissonance)

oops, i didn't mean "no" expressed interest in friday so far. it looks like tom, steve and i are in, but with only 3 of us in a city of 6 million celebrating the 8th anniversary of 9/11, the event doesn't make any sense.

after waiting a couple of days for responses i pulled the trigger on plan a, or meeting at nathan phillips square at 7 pm to record our thoughts at speakers corner, then celebrating our success so far by getting together with like-minded torontonians. it should be a good night for getting to know each other better, taking pictures, and showing how free we are to discuss these issues publicly and confidently in knowing we're doing the right thing.....

p.s. fyi, the saturday street action is still going since lots of people depend on us being there.

Shamelessly swiped from here (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=5095102&postcount=2)

[kookbreaker]

I would like to nominate kylebisme for the following



PUBLIC SAFETY = RIGGING BUILDINGS FOR CONTROLLED DEMO, Just in caase!!

this is a goldmine of stupidity.

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=5094896#post5094896

We had a previous poster with a penchant for sockery that was also enamored with the 'noble demolition' idea. Just sayin'

[rwguinn]

How about paulheinze (http://forums.randi.org/member.php?u=34512) and his "the noise of the collapse masked the sound of the explosives that started the collapse" (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=5097045#post5097045)
I admit that. But my problem is the loudness of the collapses of the WTC. They might have been loud enough to conceal BOOMs after initiation. But you are right before collapse initiation.

[Matthew Cline]

How about this suggestion from Smeggypants, or the artist known to us as 'Tin Foil Timothy'. Shame he isn't around any more. Apparently the reason Saudi Arabia is rich and Lebanon isn't is because the Saudis are friendly to the 'Zionists'. I mean, they have just as much oil in Lebanon, and Syria's planned economy is not to blame at all, right kids?

So, a country whose schoolbooks claim that The Protocols of the Elders of Zion are true is "friendly to the Zionists"?

[Mel Odious]

Kognitive isn't likely to win a Stundie award with this post, but it had me laughing:

i am even questioning the existence of the space center.

bloody NASA, no another stupid association.

such a shame what they have done to the legitimacy of space exploration


Link. (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7128&view=findpost&p=15461101)

[Horatius]

Kognitive isn't likely to win a Stundie award with this post, but it had me laughing:

Link. (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7128&view=findpost&p=15461101)


Another good one from that page (ETA: From ATTC):


You know I always shied away from the moon landing conspiracy theories because I didn't think the implications were big enough to really invest that much time into it.

Not to mention how they stereotype Conspiracy theories in general to such system of beliefs.


But maybe I should devote more time to looking into it, maybe we all should because if you think about it, technically that was the first example of TV Fakery!



He doesn't want to get stereotyped as having a conspiracy theory "system of beliefs", as he shows an absolutely perfect example of that in action!

[Alareth]

Showing that 9/11 "Truth" can appear anywhere, the following comment comes from a video taken at the 2009 Philidephia Naked Bike Ride: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdmidXPcLlI) *NSFW*

How does this have so many views, and only one comment?

You guys should be letting people know 9/11 was an inside job while riding around naked. That would leave an impression.

[tuc0]

Hahahahaha! Maybe that's the future of the TM :newlol

[Grizzly Bear]

Showing that 9/11 "Truth" can appear anywhere, the following comment comes from a video taken at the 2009 Philidephia Naked Bike Ride: (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cdmidXPcLlI) *NSFW*

He's obviously been looking into too much anime Pr0n. He must be aware of the fan service effect. :mad:

[Arus808]

This is a major stundie:

If you took a bucket of loose dirt, set a brick on it, and wet down one corner, would you expect the brick to sink straight down?


From this thread: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=153683 (discussing the lean of WTC 2)

[Klimax]

Any structures subject to forces always behave in the same way. Actually ship structures are more difficult to analyze as they can displace in 3-D in an interface water/air. Buildings are much easier - just fixed to ground for easy reference. How are you getting along with your structure?

Heiwa time. My nomination...

[D'rok]

It's been done.

Watch in amazement as this guy (http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=65869) proves that not only are there no nuclear bombs, there is also no such thing as nuclear power and no such thing as radioactivity. The existence of unstable isotopes is just a big lie perpetrated by ...

... go, on, have a guess.

Yes, it's the Joos.

P.S: I nominate everything that that guy has ever written, said, thought, or done.

I just tried to read that thread. My woo-processing unit has been overloaded, my woo-kernel just seg faulted, and I now have a permanent woo screen of death whenever I try to run an application.

He thinks dinosaurs are a Jewish hoax.

"The jewish question. Can anyone deny that the jews had the means, the motives, and the opportunities to hoax the world with fake atom bombs and fake CVNEs and fake DU and the fake nuclear navy? They even faked moonlandings and NAZIS holocausts lying bastards that they are. They call their genocides wars and failed diplomacy, degenerate freaks. They faked the dinosaurs too it would appear."

I should have just stayed in bed this morning.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

I just tried to read that thread. My woo-processing unit has been overloaded, my woo-kernel just seg faulted, and I now have a permanent woo screen of death whenever I try to run an application.

He thinks dinosaurs are a Jewish hoax.

"The jewish question. Can anyone deny that the jews had the means, the motives, and the opportunities to hoax the world with fake atom bombs and fake CVNEs and fake DU and the fake nuclear navy? They even faked moonlandings and NAZIS holocausts lying bastards that they are. They call their genocides wars and failed diplomacy, degenerate freaks. They faked the dinosaurs too it would appear."

I should have just stayed in bed this morning.


He keeps using the phrase "the motives, the opportunities and the means", but never goes further than that.

And, hah!

It has always been my understanding that an so-called anti-semite is someone the jews hate.

[Myron Proudfoot]

"The Jews faked the dinosaurs" must set some sort of CT loonyness record! wow. :eek:

[triforcharity]

I nominate this post, as a follow up to his "Rigged for public safety."


Please understand that I never claimed our government conspired to demolish the towers, only suggested the possibility that our government rigged the towers to be demolished in the case of a terrorist attack which would otherwise have led to to much more death and destruction than what did occur.

[Hokulele]

Heiwa time. My nomination...


No, you are supposed to say:

Stop! Heiwa time.

(Doo doo doo doo. Doo doo. Doo doo.)

[Mr.D]

Stop! Heiwa time.

(Doo doo doo doo. Doo doo. Doo doo.)

Oh. Now I get the point of this (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=5103302#post5103302) post. Astute Perspicuous is right; 9/11 Truth is Heiwaing away ...

[tuc0]

HOAX OBAMA STATEMENT TO THE NATION

My fellow Americans.
I have become increasingly aware of a very painful and divisive issue that has arisen on the internet over the last few years. that is the claim by conspiracy theorists known as ' The 9/11 Movement for Truth ' That the previous administration was in some way complicit in the attacks of 9/11. Unfortunately this has spoken to that part of many people that is responsive to such claims.

I am advised by my experts in the fields of psychology and behavioural science that this is not an uncommon accurrance after an enormous and traumatic event like 9/11. People are looking for someone to blame and can be wrongly influenced by those sometimes very persuasive operators.

Rather than allow this nonsense to continue to poison the public morale I have decided to initiate talks in the form of a series of meetings between the leaders of the ' 9/11 Movement for Truth ' and our own experts from the National Institute for Sience and Technology (NIST) , I will expect the media to be responsible and not turn this into some kind of feeding frenzy.

Thank you and God bless America.

Epic. Nomitated, because he put so much more work into it than into his usual truther impersonating nonsense. And it's still full of fail.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Kyle B finds the condition of bodies recovered from a collapsed building rather suspicious.

The explosive force of would simply crush people, and many recovered bodies were crushed.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Epic. Nomitated, because he put so much more work into it than into his usual truther impersonating nonsense. And it's still full of fail.


I liked how he's renamed "The 9/11 Truth Movement" to "The 9/11 Movement for Truth".

Curiously, Google only turns up 3-8 hits (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22The+9%2F11+Movement+for+Truth%22) for that exact phrase. Not only that, but only 1-2 of those are from sites other than the JREF forum.

Which leads me to wonder if our bill smith is actually Bill Whitehouse (http://www.suficircle.com/event-whitehouse.html) (phrase appears here: "The Essence of September 11th" excerpt (http://spiritual-health.org/essence.htm)).

[Mr.D]

I nominate kylebisme:

For countering the claim that big explosions make big noises, he counters with:

Besides, the mass of explosive materials doesn't not necessarily have any relationship on the level of sound they produce. For instance, you can take acetylene and oxygen and fill a trash bag with an even mix to create a very loud boom with very little mass

So apparently the new theory is that the WTC towers were destroyed by tiny little explosions that made big noises.

[Alareth]

I nominate kylebisme:

For countering the claim that big explosions make big noises, he counters with:



So apparently the new theory is that the WTC towers were destroyed by tiny little explosions that made big noises.

Or does it mean Hushaboom™ is extremely dense and bulky?

[triforcharity]

Oh, someone is dense, but its not the Hush-A-Boom!!

[Mel Odious]

Why I believe the UFO phenomenon is a hoax to make 911 truthers look bad

To all, I see this topic come up enough that I think that it should be addressed in a formal thread based soley on the topic and how it relates to the NWO. I hope to prove in as much as we can that the UFO phenomenon is a hoax perpetrated by the NWO 911 perps in order to make 911 truthers look bad by grouping us in with those that "believe in flying saucers". Note, I am not claiming that there are no sightings of UFOs but rather they are man-made whether they be actual flying craft or holograms. The hoax is also 3-fold;

1. They, UFOs, are using as an NWO scaremongering tool by providing the "external threat" that Henry Kissinger and Ronald Reagen, as well as others 'warned' us of.

2. UFOs are also used to group 911 truthers in with "crazies who believe we are being invaded with alieans".

3. UFOs can also be used as cover for top-secret military craft that the public is not to know about. Blame any sightings of secret projects on "UFOs".

/Remainder of post snipped - Mel/


Link. (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7163&view=findpost&p=15463073)

[tuc0]

I liked how he's renamed "The 9/11 Truth Movement" to "The 9/11 Movement for Truth".

Curiously, Google only turns up 3-8 hits (http://www.google.com/search?q=%22The+9%2F11+Movement+for+Truth%22) for that exact phrase. Not only that, but only 1-2 of those are from sites other than the JREF forum.

Which leads me to wonder if our bill smith is actually Bill Whitehouse (http://www.suficircle.com/event-whitehouse.html) (phrase appears here: "The Essence of September 11th" excerpt (http://spiritual-health.org/essence.htm)).
Holy :rule10ing :rule10!! I think you're on to something. Or maybe he's just a parody troll who thinks he's clever.

We may never know.

[Leviath]

Apparently, you can see super secret nano particles through children's toys:
A friend of hers works for a pharmaceutical company in Vienna and told her that the swine flu injection needles indeed contain nano particles in their very tip, which cannot be detected with the naked eye but are clearly visible with as little as a 12 times magnifying microscope like children’s toy microscopes.
http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/health/vaccinations/news.php?q=1252603660

Warning: The above article is crackpottery and anti-zionism in it's purest and most condensed form.

From the same article we learn that the evil, zionist, all powerful NWO is afraid of........dogs:
And apart from that the population has been systematically stripped of weapons and protective dogs.

[jaydeehess]

Ok , I am not actually able to nominate this guy MartinTimothy
at the blackvault. It would require that I post everything he has spewed.

He believes in all of the polished turds of wisdom about 911 that anyone cares to name. He cites in one post Chris Bollyn, Killtown, Jack White, and uses Hoffman's 'pyroclastic cloud'.

He has spammed the forum with sereral threads which can be viewed here (http://community.theblackvault.com/phpBB3/viewforum.php?f=8)

[jaydeehess]

Apparently, you can see super secret nano particles through children's toys:

http://www.fourwinds10.com/siterun_data/health/vaccinations/news.php?q=1252603660

Warning: The above article is crackpottery and anti-zionism in it's purest and most condensed form.

From the same article we learn that the evil, zionist, all powerful NWO is afraid of........dogs:

I was unaware that children's microscopes had advanced to the stage where they could resolve objects on the scale of 10-8 meters:D

Can one buy a home electron microscope kit?:D

[dudalb]

"The Jews faked the dinosaurs" must set some sort of CT loonyness record! wow. :eek:

I know September is not quite half over, but I think we have a winner,folks.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

So apparently the new theory is that the WTC towers were destroyed by tiny little explosions that made big noises.


Or big explosions that made little noises. I'm really not sure what point he was actually trying to make...

Link. (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7163&view=findpost&p=15463073)


They've been planning 9/11 since 1897 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aurora_Texas_UFO_Incident)?

[Alareth]

I was unaware that children's microscopes had advanced to the stage where they could resolve objects on the scale of 10-8 meters:D

Can one buy a home electron microscope kit?:D


To be fair, you do have to squint a bit ...

[Horatius]

Here's a Video nomination, from Black Krishna of the Toronto Truthers:

ZafC_7Sp7eM


The particular nom is near the end, where he indicates that the NWO is trying to limit population by promoting promiscuity not only among homosexuals, but heterosexuals as well.

Now I'm off to do a comic....

[Alareth]

Here's a Video nomination, from Black Krishna of the Toronto Truthers:

ZafC_7Sp7eM


The particular nom is near the end, where he indicates that the NWO is trying to limit population by promoting promiscuity not only among homosexuals, but heterosexuals as well.

Now I'm off to do a comic....

The NWO is behind bowling and Twitter?

[Travis]

Wow, we're getting a nice variety of "the crazy" this month.

[Dave Rogers]

I'm nominating Ragnarok for the most irrelevant ad hominem argument I've seen in a while.

Dave, are you a Bolton fan? If so, I may as well end our discussion here, as I know you'll argue 'til you are blue in the face and are as stubborn as a mule. ;)

So now we know why the first responders aren't talking. It's not because they were paid off. It's because they're all Bolton Wanderers fans.

Dave

[JoeyDonuts]

Personally, I celebrate the guy's entire catalogue.

[fullflavormenthol]

I have to nominate this statement from a birther on the article found here (http://www.concordmonitor.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20090916/FRONTPAGE/909160302).

Relevent portion is bolded.

Definition
By prsmith on Wed, 09/16/2009 - 10:06

Based on their letters, articles, discussions, etc., we know that the founding fathers were very concerned about a usurper, a person with loyalties to powers other than the United States of America, becoming our POTUS. That is the reason they put the three word phrase "natural born citizen" in Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution. We also know that they used the Law of Nations as a primary reference during their deliberations because they specifically mention it (Article 1, Section 8, Paragraph 10). That body of work which was compiled by Vattel defines "natural born citizen" as a person who was born in the country of parents who are citizens of the country. Two requirements - born on native soil AND both parents being citizens of the nation state.

Many point to the U.S. v. Wong Kim Ark decision but that only addressed the statutory definition of citizen and not the definition of 'natural born citizen'.

So what leads you to believe that it can be interpreted in any other way?

Here is what Article 1, Section 8, Paragraph 10 actually says...

To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;

Do you think some simply searched "law of nations" without paying attention to context?

[Red3]

I just found this over at the Studie Factory:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1273938#post1273938

Microsoft code and the Bavarian Illuminati

In the Object Linking and Embedding 2.0 Programmer's Reference there is a very curious term. On page 78, the second paragraph starts with the sentence -- "In the aggregation model, this internal communication is achieved through coordination with a special instance of IUnknown interface known as the controlling unknown of the aggregate."

The term 'Controlling Unknown' is a very interesting choice of words. It is not the most intuitively obvious term for what it is describing (a base class used for implementing an object-oriented data exchange/embedding system).

A term strikingly similar to controlling unknown was the term "unknown superiors", used by many occult secret societies. These included the Strict Observance Masonic Lodge, whose members were sometimes referred to as Illuminati, and which had some connection with Adam Weishaupt's order. Unknown superiors is a term that refers to non-corporeal, or superhuman agencies in command of secret societies or mystery cults. Such an agency is frequently known as the inner head of an order of organisation, as opposed to the outer head, who is human.



So in a nutshell, a word describing one thing can be the same as a word describing another thing. I'm shocked! :eye-poppi

I haven't read the whole post but I'm sure it's pretty entertaining.

The twenty-third building (or building *7*) is pentagonal in shape. Its exact location is known only to five people (of whom Bill Gates is one). It is believed that this building is accessible from "other locations" within the Microsoft campus via secret passageways.
What is in the five-sided building is not known for certain. However, it is believed that the contents of building 7 are of a "supernatural" nature.

Apart from the Pentagon, there was a similar five-sided building in Nazi Germany. The information has been concealed from the public. One hypothesis which I happen to believe is that building 7 is inhabited by, or used to communicate with, the "Inner Head", or "controlling unknown". Let me demystify that term for you. Controlling Unknown = Reptilians. The identity of the Outer Head is unknown. Bill Gates may be the Outer Head, or if not, a high initiate of the conspiracy, or perhaps just a figurehead, whose purpose is to divert attention from his leader.

:dl:

I love that forum!

[triforcharity]

The NWO is behind bowling and Twitter?

*Throws pretzels at Alareth

Dang You!! I was SO coming here to stundie that!! Thanks alot..... :D

[NWO Sentryman]

Apparently, no-one died on 9/11:

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174


ALL THE VICTIMS [of 9/11] ARE FAKE AND GENERATED BY A DECADE-OLD COMPUTER PROGRAM

WE MUST BEGIN INVESTIGATION INTO THE COMPANIES FORMERLY IN THE WTC.
THEY EACH PUT MONEY INTO SIMULATING VICSIMS FOR BANKING ROBBERIES AND PROFITS and BUSINESS HOAXES which is probably how the government bribed collaborators into working for their globalist goals.

As mentioned on our website and eloquently stated by Simon Shack a few days ago:
QUOTE
The 9/11 perpetrators are of course close chums with the bankers who hired space in the WTC towers - a 'genocide' of their own employees never was an envisaged proposition.



Hat-tip to mel-odious.:th:

[triforcharity]

Please don't nominate that crap. It is a desecration of the people's memories that died that day.
Thanks.

<~~ Steps off soapbox.

But, I understand where you are coming from.

[Travis]

The twenty-third building (or building *7*) is pentagonal in shape. Its exact location is known only to five people (of whom Bill Gates is one).

I love this because it brings forth the image of Bill Gates and four other guys building a pentagonal building on their own or, alternatively, having a work crew construct it then gunning them down mercilessly the day it's completed. Think Christopher Walken murdering his minions after they are done with their job in the Bond film A View To A Kill with an uzi laughing all the while.

[Red3]

Apparently, no-one died on 9/11:

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174



Hat-tip to mel-odious.:th:



I'd really like to believe that was a wind up. Surely no one can believe that? :eek::boggled:

ALL THE VICTIMS ARE FAKE AND GENERATED BY A DECADE-OLD COMPUTER PROGRAM Speechless


I love this because it brings forth the image of Bill Gates and four other guys building a pentagonal building on their own or, alternatively, having a work crew construct it then gunning them down mercilessly the day it's completed. Think Christopher Walken murdering his minions after they are done with their job in the Bond film A View To A Kill with an uzi laughing all the while.

I'd have loved to have overheard the phone call to the architect/builders; "...what I'm after is a pentagonal shaped, crypt with some secret passage ways...where I can keep, oh say, a multi-dimensional lizard..."

[Dave Rogers]

Here's Ragnarok's explanation of why the Twin Towers couldn't have crushed down.

But that is the whole point. "Stuff" was never supposed to have had time to "pile up", because the weight above was crushing everything below it!

So the existence of a pile of stuff crushing the structure proves that there wasn't a pile of stuff crushing the structure.

Dave

[Dave Rogers]

This is quite something from bill smith. I honestly don't think I've seen this particular stupid comment before in any form, which is quite unusual round here.

I do notice that we seem to have a very high proportion of posters with a very high number of posts who have suddenly shown up here. Probably just a concidence.

When a thread has a lot of posts in it from people who post a lot, somehow that looks suspicious. I think I speak for all of us when I say, "Huh?"

Dave

[Grizzly Bear]

bill18286 enlightens me on his careful reading of the NIST report and his understanding of structures:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J3iKLz4oatY

lol yeeeees and the reason that NIST gives FOR the connection failures WAS that the columns were expanding and the floors were not! If everything had expanded together (as is scientifically what would have happened had the fires been as fierce as they had claimed), the whole building would simply have wobbled a little, with the steel structure remaining standing. And don't patronise me by saying "your statement was correct". All of my statements are researched, or I wouldn't make them.


For context, I noted he was correct in that concrete and steel have similar thermal properties and hence they can be used together to make reinforced concrete, but that it has nothing to do with the effect it has on the adjoining elements which hold the building together.

[jaydeehess]

bill smith Here (http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=5116149&postcount=152)
will not condemn the research into 911 including the contentions that no one died on 911!

I really hated to nom bill given that he is just too easy but this really struck a note with me. One wonders who is crazier, the guy who comes up with the contention or the guy who says, "well maybe,,,"

[joe911]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82366
I'm pretty sure that most of you are aware that by now, the market is flushed with ultra cheap, ultra portable netbook computers. Most come with a web cam to spy on you, plus there is a high possibility the books may emit a GPS tracking signal. Also, beware the Netbook's mind-controlling and/or conditioning implication through bad vibrational frequencies. For instance, take the standard Netbook screen resolution: 1024 x 600. This is an oddity since, the standard screen resolution at 1024 should be 1024 x 768.

Some maths on these numbers:

1024 x 600 = 614400.
6 x 14400 = 86400.
8 x 6400 = 51200.
5 x 1200 = 6000.

What do 6, 12, 64, and 144 all have in common? They're all numerology used by the Illuminati! Remember, all the time that you spend on your Netbook, you are staring at those subliminal numbers through the screen display.

http://forums.randi.org/images/smilies/doglaugh.gif

[Hokulele]

Please don't nominate that crap. It is a desecration of the people's memories that died that day.


Seconded.

[Björn Toulouse]

Still following the No Flu Shot thread on LCF and came across this (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=322743&t=2279385)the other day but it didn't make any sense to me, so I thought it had something to do with the brandy I was drinking. I just read it again and it still makes no sense.


People are convinced that Vaccines may cause Autism and the medical profession says that is a Strawman argument against vaccination. I would say this is like finding a Haystack in the Needle! The public is reassured now by a slightly different straw man who stuffed their scrubs with straw, as if the very Scarecrow themselves inject fear yet simultaneously state that there is nothing to fear. I personally would rather err on the side of caution.



Isn't there a Stundie hiding in that paragraph somewhere?

[Horatius]

Isn't there a Stundie hiding in that paragraph somewhere?



You mean, besides his complete lack of understanding what a "strawman" argument is, and his overly abundant straw-related imagery?

Nope, nary a Stundie to be found, other than all of that.

[Mel Odious]

Please don't nominate that crap. It is a desecration of the people's memories that died that day.
Thanks.

<~~ Steps off soapbox.

But, I understand where you are coming from.


Agreed. This garbage is a slap in the face to triforcharity and everyone else who lived through that horrific day.

[triforcharity]

We lived, and people can insult me all they want, I couldn't care less.

Its the victims who left family, friends, wives, husbands, daughters, sons, nieces, nephews, etc. etc. etc. behind that day.

Like I said, I don't really care if they insult me, but leave the families alone.

(Incidentally, I am also a surviving family member, as my 2 uncles died that day, but I have thick skin)

[Klimax]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82366


http://forums.randi.org/images/smilies/doglaugh.gif

Reality of physical size -fail.
Reality of bad drivers -> no webcam - fail.

Yet best is still screen size = illuminaty plot...

[joe911]

Not a nomination,but its worth a giggle.
According to who? And on what data and method?
Do you need lessons in googling or something

[dogsmilk]

I would like to nominate a post by rodin, a guy in the running for the most barking mad anti-semite on the entire internet. Outdoing previous claims crop circles and the death of Douglas Adams are down to the nefarious machinations of teh jooos, he recently decided E=MC2 is a Jewish hoax. Apparently Einstein

was given the hoax formula by his controllers

Modestly, rodin sets out to correct all you deluded physicists out there that have allowed yourself to be fooled by the Jews. I am fully confident forum users with a physics background will find the thread to be truly extraordinary.

I expose Jew science hoaxes such as Pangea, Big Bang, Peak Oil and show how Earth alters its size over time, and the Universe is infinite in all 4 dimensions (well I have still to complete that section). I also suggest a unifying field for strong nuclear force and 'superluminal' light shifting of quasars etc. So all in all the thread is not exactly what you would call limited in its scope.

However none of these revelations is likely to put the wind up the Judaic Mafia as much as proving by simple means understandable to any sentient being e = mc2 is a hoax. The ramifications of this will rip the fabric of the space-time, dislodging the Jew controllers of Earthship Hoax.

I cannot post URLs yet, but the thread is called " E = mc2 is a hoax (I think)"
and was posted in the general section. A search for "Einstein" should locate it easily enough.

I mean, come on, how can anyone argue that the last line of that paragraph isn't truly awesome?

[Toke]

Well, I am pretty sure that e = mc2 as a hoax would have serious ramifications in physics.:D

[Elizabeth I]

Still following the No Flu Shot thread on LCF and came across this (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=322743&t=2279385)the other day but it didn't make any sense to me, so I thought it had something to do with the brandy I was drinking. I just read it again and it still makes no sense.

<quote snipped>

Isn't there a Stundie hiding in that paragraph somewhere?

You mean, besides his complete lack of understanding what a "strawman" argument is, and his overly abundant straw-related imagery?

Nope, nary a Stundie to be found, other than all of that.

No biggie, he's just grasping at straws.

[joe911]

I would like to nominate a post by rodin, a guy in the running for the most barking mad anti-semite on the entire internet. Outdoing previous claims crop circles and the death of Douglas Adams are down to the nefarious machinations of teh jooos, he recently decided E=MC2 is a Jewish hoax. Apparently Einstein

Here's the thread;
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81543

[Red3]

Here's the thread;
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81543

I like the first reply:

I agree with you on this although I am ignorant concerning Hard Science

So he agrees even though he doesn't know wtf he's talking about!

[dudalb]

bill smith does it again in this thread http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=154253 when he states who the two most knowledgable sources of information on the scientific aspects of 9/11 are:

Heiwa or Judy Woods.

He saw the Einstein is part of the Jewish Conspiracy Quote, felt this lead for the Stundie this month was in jeopardy, and came up with a beautiful response to keep first place.

[Dubbi]

Somewhere here is a stundie.

"A Day in an Infowar
Another typical day on the streets of the infowar. Intersection Yonge and Dundas is a weekly battle zone in a constant war for the minds of men and women. The 911 truth is usually between the Christian and the Muslim booths. It was a nice day and people mostly like us.

Even though it was a rather calm and trouble free, this day was rather unique because of high NWO sponsored activity around the city. Around the corner we had Diet Coke promoters. We had people walking by with bottles and some with cases of (Dr.?) Donald Rumsfeld approved "kill yourself slow and don't know what hit you" beverages. And across the street at Dundas Square we had the International Film Festival promoting death culture. They were showing footage of the Toronto zombie march and later some old horror movie. Some of the audience where dressed up like zombies.

So here were are, handing out flyers, warning people of dangers of vaccines and other evil NWO deeds and, here we have; zombies all over the place, walking around within the public on a normal day(September 12) like its Halloween. Meanwhile they just discussed "Mass Fatality Management" etc. at the International Swine Flu Conference(August 20).

Summing it all up, to me it seemed too much like predictive programming. Getting people used to see death everywhere and outside of TV this time. If death culture is not a sign of a falling civilization and a sabotage from within, I don't know what is."

http://torontochange.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=325

[jaydeehess]

Still following the No Flu Shot thread on LCF and came across this (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=322743&t=2279385)the other day but it didn't make any sense to me, so I thought it had something to do with the brandy I was drinking. I just read it again and it still makes no sense.

Isn't there a Stundie hiding in that paragraph somewhere?

It is interesting and quite funny the way he mangles a metaphor. It really does not make a lot of sense. I have experienced individuals who muddle their thoughts like this. They were off the charts high at the time though.

[Horatius]

It is interesting and quite funny the way he mangles a metaphor. It really does not make a lot of sense. I have experienced individuals who muddle their thoughts like this. They were off the charts high at the time though.

I notice "Q" has brought up the H1N1 Vaccine Patent application BS. (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=323245&t=2279385) If anyone with an account there could link him to this thread:

http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=5026896#post5026896


I'd appreciate it!

[sylvan8798]

The conspirators have an ACE up their sleeves if no-one was actually killed, should it all go pear-shaped, don't they? Well, no-one in New York only brown people in far-away places - they don't count do they?

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174&st=60



http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=154099&page=15
Nothing if you like killing brown-skinned people.

Geography class anyone?

[joe911]

So he agrees even though he doesn't know wtf he's talking about!

Thats where many cts go wrong imo. They wont take experts words because "they must be paid off" but will happily accept strangers on the internet.

[Horatius]

Okay, this isn't a nomination out of respect for triforcharity, but, holy **** these guys are sick!
(http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174&view=findpost&p=15464737)


Heck yea, real cops and real fireman died on 9-11, about 300 firemen I understand.


What is your basis for defending the CNN fakery?

[joe911]

Okay, this isn't a nomination out of respect for triforcharity, but, holy **** these guys are sick!
(http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174&view=findpost&p=15464737)

:mad::mad: That really is sick,isnt there any way to report them?

[Mel Odious]

I would like to nominate a post by rodin, a guy in the running for the most barking mad anti-semite on the entire internet. Outdoing previous claims crop circles and the death of Douglas Adams are down to the nefarious machinations of teh jooos, he recently decided E=MC2 is a Jewish hoax. Apparently Einstein



Modestly, rodin sets out to correct all you deluded physicists out there that have allowed yourself to be fooled by the Jews. I am fully confident forum users with a physics background will find the thread to be truly extraordinary.



I cannot post URLs yet, but the thread is called " E = mc2 is a hoax (I think)"
and was posted in the general section. A search for "Einstein" should locate it easily enough.

I mean, come on, how can anyone argue that the last line of that paragraph isn't truly awesome?


Rodin has two other threads on the same subject (that I know of).

Einstein and Newton both wrong? (http://www.bautforum.com/against-mainstream/93381-einstein-newton-both-wrong.html) - posted at the Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forums.

Proof KE = mv = momentum (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=81732) - posted at the David Icke Forums.

Better doublecheck those units for kinetic energy and momentum, rodin ...

[TheDaver]

I don’t know if this quite counts as a Stundie, but I just had to throw it out there:
TheTrutherGirls wrote:
“Canada must be a free country and all its freedoms must be protected by the law.” — Jacques Cartier, 1867

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWXjaS7cnpQ

Except that Jacques Cartier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_cartier) died in the 1500s and the source of that quote is George-Étienne Cartier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George-%C3%89tienne_Cartier).

Jacques Cartier is an important figure in early Canadian history. This is about the equivalent of attributing a 19th century quote to Christopher Columbus.

[Travis]

I would like to nominate a post by rodin, a guy in the running for the most barking mad anti-semite on the entire internet. Outdoing previous claims crop circles and the death of Douglas Adams are down to the nefarious machinations of teh jooos, he recently decided E=MC2 is a Jewish hoax. Apparently Einstein



Modestly, rodin sets out to correct all you deluded physicists out there that have allowed yourself to be fooled by the Jews. I am fully confident forum users with a physics background will find the thread to be truly extraordinary.



I cannot post URLs yet, but the thread is called " E = mc2 is a hoax (I think)"
and was posted in the general section. A search for "Einstein" should locate it easily enough.

I mean, come on, how can anyone argue that the last line of that paragraph isn't truly awesome?

Awesome find. Thanks.

Well, I am pretty sure that e = mc2 as a hoax would have serious ramifications in physics.:D

I'm thinking Japan thinks the equation is pretty damned real.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

se7ensnakes gullibility has rendered him immune to scam artists:

When people get frustrated in dealing with what is clearly before their eyes, they begin formulating different methods of attack, such as labeling people. This is an act of frustration. I dont see myself as a truther, it is just obvious that the government was complicit in the events of 9/11. I value my ability to see these kinds of things. For that reason i am certain that i would have never been taken by the likes of Madoff. People that dont believe in conspiracies are easily taken.

Good thing Alex Jones already bought his new house then, huh?

[Travis]

People that dont believe in conspiracies are easily taken.

How can someone be so unaware?

[gmanontario]

I don’t know if this quite counts as a Stundie, but I just had to throw it out there:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWXjaS7cnpQ

Except that Jacques Cartier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_cartier) died in the 1500s and the source of that quote is George-Étienne Cartier (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George-%C3%89tienne_Cartier).

Jacques Cartier is an important figure in early Canadian history. This is about the equivalent of attributing a 19th century quote to Christopher Columbus.

Awesome example of stupid to we Canadians.

I blame the school system and those damn kaybeckers who confuse us with similar French last names...:D

[Grizzly Bear]

Well, this just rendered me speechless. This kind youtuber has indicated to me that he thinks all -- you heard it -- ALL people who made a last second decision which saved their lives are suspicious and indicate foreknowledge of an attack:

"Do you consider the mundane decisions people who regularly travelled to or worked inside the towers; caught flights to be "suspicious"? Are you prepared to accuse passengers of having "advanced warning" because they were a few minutes too late and missed the flights and survived because of that? "

Wow what a coincidence, aren't they the lucky ones! :)

It was a private message via youtube:

http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/1227/44770664.png

rzain1 (http://www.youtube.com/user/rzain1)

[NWO Sentryman]

Here is Len Hart on his soapbox again

existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/


The biggest hole in the official theories is the fact that there is absolutely no forensic evidence supporting the Bush conspiracy theory

[GlennB]

Nominating Heiwa is marginally cruel, but lately he reckons tables don't need a place to put your dinner or coffee cup :

"But the four legs in the corners of a table stand with no structure between! Now, try to crush them! "

here (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?postid=5124667#post5124667)

[joe911]

Not only is e=mc2 a jewish hoax,the atomic bomb was too...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82812

There must be a stundie in this reply...
There are no doubts that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were rased to the ground but not in the manner that has been fed to us.
A friend of mines dad was in the merchant navy and took photographs of Hiroshima or Nagasaki shortly after the war ended when the ship he was serving on sailed there. This always puzzled me as a child as to why he was still alive and not covered in lesions, he lived to nearly 100 yrs old with no ill effects.

I read somewhere about the official pictures of the aftermath being taken at Fox studios in Hollywood with the Hollywood hills clear in the background.

My understanding is that an atomic bomb cannot be detonated in the air. Due to the manipulation of space and time the only way to detonate these devices is complex. They have to be placed in specific points where magnetic lines in the earth cross or converge, known as ground zero and also the specific point in time has to be carefully calculated down to a nano second or thereabouts for detonation to take place.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Not only is e=mc2 a jewish hoax,the atomic bomb was too...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82812

There must be a stundie in this reply...


This, the last paragraph...

My understanding is that an atomic bomb cannot be detonated in the air. Due to the manipulation of space and time the only way to detonate these devices is complex. They have to be placed in specific points where magnetic lines in the earth cross or converge, known as ground zero and also the specific point in time has to be carefully calculated down to a nano second or thereabouts for detonation to take place.


*dumbfounded*

ETA: I just noticed that the OP of that thread, rwederfoort, was also the second poster in that thread, saying, "Very Very good thread, Thanks". Then, later on he posts a video and replies, once again, to himself, saying, "I love THE VIDEO, GOOD FACTS again, namste".

W... T... F...

[Grizzly Bear]

Little boy and Fat Man detonations themselves were mid-air detonations. And Tsar Bomba was let loose about 4 kilometers above sea level... but what shocks me more than his inability to see what technology in the 1940's was capable of is that he thinks the only way to detonate one is manipulating space & time.... Too... many... science fiction.... books....

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Little boy and Fat Man detonations themselves were mid-air detonations. And Tsar Bomba was let loose about 4 kilometers above sea level... but what shocks me more than his inability to see what technology in the 1940's was capable of is that he thinks the only way to detonate one is manipulating space & time.... Too... many... science fiction.... books....


He throws in a mangled version of ley lines (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ley_line), too.

[Dave Rogers]

I'm a little reluctant to nominate kylebisme, because I think he's genuinely trying to formulate a rational line of argument, but his assertion that there are structural engineers who believe in magic strikes me as a little far-fetched.

Given some looking around, I'd bet I could find some structural engineers who believe Copperfield actually did vanish the Statue of Liberty into thin air too, but I'm guessing you'd agree with me that it would be wrong to take their word for it.

Seriously, has anyone ever met anyone who believes David Copperfield really does have magical powers?

Dave

[Toke]

Seriously, has anyone ever met anyone who believes David Copperfield really does have magical powers?

Dave
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KSLRjDR4aQ

Apart from Mr. Deity?:)

[Justin39640]

Seriously, has anyone ever met anyone who believes David Copperfield really does have magical powers?

Dave

hehe
wheres bill?

[Dave Rogers]

hehe
wheres bill?

Good point. It's worth asking him/her/it/them.

Dave

[Alareth]

I'm a little reluctant to nominate kylebisme, because I think he's genuinely trying to formulate a rational line of argument, but his assertion that there are structural engineers who believe in magic strikes me as a little far-fetched.



Seriously, has anyone ever met anyone who believes David Copperfield really does have magical powers?

Dave

Knowing how Copperfield made the Statue of Liberty "disappear", no he's not really magic.

[Grizzly Bear]

I'm a little reluctant to nominate kylebisme, because I think he's genuinely trying to formulate a rational line of argument, but his assertion that there are structural engineers who believe in magic strikes me as a little far-fetched.



Seriously, has anyone ever met anyone who believes David Copperfield really does have magical powers?

Dave

I don't think he's done anything particularly stundie worthy (yet) personally... that one struck me as a notion that theres' always whack jobs in a profession. I just think he applies a different standard to what a whack is than many other people do.

[sylvan8798]

Keeping abreast of the trainwreck "thread which shall not be named":

godzilla ponders why his nutcase friends don't accept his nutcase theories...


I must say I'm hitting a brick wall with trying to get people to accept these findings. I'm blown away that some I talk to are even falling back into the safety of LIHOP it seems instead of attempting to open up to accepting that nobody died. Pretty weird. This is big enough that I assume it will be in the news somewhere outside of the states before too long. That will be good to see and I look forward to showing it to my friends.
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174&st=195

[Orphia Nay]

Here's some stundipity with a vaccine CT theme.

http://www.infowars.com/len-horowitz-files-pandemic-charges-with-fbi-in-nyc/

brad Reply:
September 21st, 2009 at 6:29 pm
They want to elminate the numbers, There is to many people who are consuming the resources and food. The leaders are stupid because if we cutt down everyones food supply so everyone can equally get thier vitimens and minerals there would be no hungury humans.

we are eating to much cows and pigs, so much that we are eating untill they go to extinct.
We are using so much resources for stupid shiit like wars and mcdonalds.

[sylvan8798]

From "Andrew" who also posts at aol. The near totality of 9/11 ct logic all in one place.

http://messageboards.aol.com/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId=564809&articleId=49805&func=6&channel=Member+Guided+News&filterRead=true&filterHidden=true&filterUnhidden=false

[Sabrina]

Apparently, no-one died on 9/11:

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174



Hat-tip to mel-odious.:th:

This guy doesn't deserve a Stundie; he deserves a royal beating.

I know, I know; I'm late to the thread. Sue me; I just started reading it today. :p

[Dr Adequate]

Here's some stundipity with a vaccine CT theme.

http://www.infowars.com/len-horowitz-files-pandemic-charges-with-fbi-in-nyc/

brad Reply:
[I]September 21st, 2009 at 6:29 pm
They want to elminate the numbers, There is to many people who are consuming the resources and food. The leaders are stupid because if we cutt down everyones food supply so everyone can equally get thier vitimens and minerals there would be no hungury humans.

we are eating to much cows and pigs, so much that we are eating untill they go to extinct. I've just had a brilliant idea for a way I can make money.

Excuse me while I rush out and patent it. Do you think the name "agriculture" would be pretentious?

Mr Face, meet Mr Palm.

[triforcharity]

The context is the fact that there is no official story on 9/11, only historical events and facts.
Red states, "of which there is an enormous variety of opinion.

yes, and we all know how valuable OPINION is.

TAM:rolleyes:

Well the legal system is based on it.

Wait, for so long I have thought that the legal system was based on facts and evidence?? You mean to tell me all this time it's just opinions???

HOLY SNIKEYS BATMAN!!!

[Debaser]

Keeping abreast of the trainwreck "thread which shall not be named":

I'm blown away that some I talk to are even falling back into the safety of LIHOP it seems instead of attempting to open up to accepting that nobody died. Pretty weird.

godzilla ponders why his nutcase friends don't accept his nutcase theories...

That is, they are confronted by some stranger blathering on that no-one died on 9/11 (planes empty, those who apparently jumped being CGI or props), and so they choose the only CT they think they can get away with discussing as a distraction, before they turn and run off in the opposite direction.

[Redtail]

Seriously, has anyone ever met anyone who believes David Copperfield really does have magical powers?

Dave

... Yes... Yes I have.:(

[Redtail]

Okay, this isn't a nomination out of respect for triforcharity, but, holy **** these guys are sick!
(http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174&view=findpost&p=15464737)

:jaw-dropp That... How... Snuh...


ETA: And for the Stundie....

"Our movement" in 8 days? Not bad going! Did you get a membership card when you joined this "movement" just last week? I dont think too many around here subscribe to being in any kind of "movement".
The name of the forums?


http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174&st=105

[HeyLeroy]

I nominate olie at the 9/11 Troof Movement forum for this wonderful insight:

Before going into all those Nist type calculations You should have applied common sense . - Find out how exactly they were built , --> that B 767- 200 was 3,000 times less in mass than the building and 10 more fragile than average car , --> that its maximum speed could NOT have been higher than 250 mph (otherwise it would have fallen apart before reaching the 'target) and . . . realize , that any of these towers could have taken 10 , 20 or 30 of those boings from any side at any height and remain standing . . .

linky (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7181&view=findpost&p=15464092)

I didn't realize airlines still use planes made from sticks and canvas.

ETA: Wow, that thread has potential. Christophera, Heiwa and psikeyhackr.

[Orphia Nay]

I've just had a brilliant idea for a way I can make money.

Excuse me while I rush out and patent it. Do you think the name "agriculture" would be pretentious?

Mr Face, meet Mr Palm.

:newlol You get it.

[Elizabeth I]

It's not as good as some of the other nominations, but I have to share this and its delicious lack of comprehension about the power of a tornado:

Or when some people hear a train it is actually coming. Hopefully you will be not on the rails when you tell your comrades "Hey its just a tornado".

"Just" a tornado?

[Dr Adequate]

Grandiose Paranoia Award (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174&st=120):

The funny thing is that I'm betting this thread has every been linked to in every e-mailing list known to man higher up in the gub'mint. They are probably getting a kick out of the in-fighting.

No, I'm fairly sure it's just us.

[triforcharity]

I nominate Christophera for this

The steel core columns could not have existed because there was totally inadequate access to set enough charges to cut them to match what was found at GZ.

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7181&st=0&#entry15464092

Same thread as was pointed to earlier.

[Horatius]

Okay, this one's a bit long (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174&view=findpost&p=15465434), but:


Random selection http://edition.cnn.com/SPECIALS/2001/memor...eople/1593.html

Sim Key "Bible" or "Biblical"

*CHRISTIAN* *Adam*s.

Represented the German wine industry abroad, ran a vineyard in *BIEBEL* sheim.

Google Christian Adams + Biebelsheim. One hit Legacy.com.

http://www.legacy.com/gb2/default.aspx?bookID=91565&page=1

Every comment contains "GOD" or "prayer"...

I'll dispose of this one comment first - "To the Adams Family -" laugh.gif

Sim "Commenters"

*Jakob* Christ ensen

Rob Eibl = Ro bEibl

Esther

Susan and Stephen

Angela & Anthony Clement ( This is a good one. We have the conveniently repeating first initial mnemonic, an "angel" a "saint" and a "pope".)

Evelyn & Eduard

Barb Cross (Another good one for fundamentalists)

Two "commentors" on the same day in 2002

MICHELLE WILLLIAMS, WILLIAM REYNOLDS (Both signed in caps)


*Christ*ina Miller - Brooklyn Park, *Mary*land

Next post weeks later

Ron Miller, Baytown, Texas

Celestina Brown (Celestina = Little Heaven)

*Thomas*, Germany

*Christ*ie, Horn Lake, Mississippi

Theresa Case

Gerard Family

Fernando Garcia ( Hah, check this one - Fernan DOG arcia )

Denise Christ ian, Melrose, Florida

Krist ine Furstenberg, Tecumseh, Michigan

Angel Rosario

Doug Abraham

Linda Quincy Adams

vivie singh

I think you must be getting the picture by now!!

Well that's about it for this quick scan, I'm sure there are more if you care to look!



OMG! Brianv has figured out that a lot of people of European descent have Biblically inspired names! This surely must mean something!!!!

-signed Dave :boxedin::duck:

[Mel Odious]

I propose that we just give honorary Stundie awards to all the participants on that thread so we won't have to see any of their vile stupidity in the finals.

Anybody want to second the motion?

[triforcharity]

Here is one that I find somewhat dumb.

This is from, suprise suprise, 911movement.org.
Context? He doesn't believe NIST's conclusions on steel and fire.

Metal is resilient. A steel shaft can be bent to a point but it will still return to it's original shape. This is an easy phenomenon to observe in metal springs. A steel shaft has to bend so far before it will be distorted past a point of no return. It is an easy observation to confirm that metal shafts can withstand great forces with respect to their size.


WTF?? So, we can bend a steel shaft, and it will just bounce back like a spring. Something tells me his understanding of steel is somewhat lacking.

Someone really should tell all those electricians to make sure when they bend conduit to make sure they don't spring back after they take the pipe-bender off of it.

HILARIOUS!!

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=6358

He then goes on to talk about hammers and such. Something tells me that he shouldn't be anywhere NEAR a construction site.

[triforcharity]

I propose that we just give honorary Stundie awards to all the participants on that thread so we won't have to see any of their vile stupidity in the finals.

Anybody want to second the motion?

No, because to some people, its just not funny. I find nothing funny about spitting on the face of people's decesed relatives to further some BS agenda.

It's *********** disgusting.

Horatious gets a sort of pass, as his comic was true and funny. But, he was not supporting it, just making fun of it.

/Soapbox

[NobbyNobbs]

Seriously, has anyone ever met anyone who believes David Copperfield really does have magical powers?

Dave


This guy (http://www.freepatentsonline.com/y2007/0035812.html) does. Although I haven't met him, I've seen the details of his patent application (yes, it was denied) in which, for some inexplicable reason, he included copies of the lawsuits he filed against David Copperfield and David Blaine, claiming they are wrongfully using his supernatural powers and passing them off as mere illusion.


It is said the universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it's stranger than we can imagine. Sometimes you don't even have to leave the surface of the planet to prove this.

[Klimax]

Okay, this one's a bit long (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174&view=findpost&p=15465434), but:






OMG! Brianv has figured out that a lot of people of European descent have Biblically inspired names! This surely must mean something!!!!

-signed Dave :boxedin::duck:

That would include me as well... :D No wonder I became NWO Cyborg...

[Klimax]

Most of you have been on this road before, you have been presented with the evidence. You have read reports by NIST and the opposition, you have seem videos of the collapses, you have read about flight 77 and the inability of any jet fighters intercept it. You have seen time and time again the collapse of the towers. The problem is not in the evidence, the problem is with you. Either you refuse to see the obvious and think for yourself, or you take your wayward patriotic fantasies and protect the very people that allowed this to happen. Remember, the problem is with you, it lies nowhere else.

See the bolded... that is my nomination. (underline and cursive are mine to point out the core.)

[sylvan8798]

Here is one that I find somewhat dumb.

This is from, suprise suprise, 911movement.org.
Context? He doesn't believe NIST's conclusions on steel and fire.


WTF?? So, we can bend a steel shaft, and it will just bounce back like a spring. Something tells me his understanding of steel is somewhat lacking.

Someone really should tell all those electricians to make sure when they bend conduit to make sure they don't spring back after they take the pipe-bender off of it.

HILARIOUS!!

http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=6358

He then goes on to talk about hammers and such. Something tells me that he shouldn't be anywhere NEAR a construction site.

Steel is elastic (meaning it will return from a deformed shape to its original shape when the load is removed) only in a very small range. Nothing anywhere near what was happening during the collapses. Kind of silly that he tries to compare hammering a nail to the collapses.

[triforcharity]

Ok, just out of curiosity, and you can PM if you would like. Could you, in theory, bend a piece of WTC steel, and have it spring back?? How faar before it became permanant??

Thanks.

[Toke]

Using steel pipes for wires in house installations went out of fashion before I started my apprenticeship. Nowadays we use plastic pipes and bend them by hand after sticking a spring inside to prevent collapse/buckling. [/nitpick]

[sylvan8798]

Truther physics: Buildings are made of matter and anti-matter.



http://messageboards.aol.com/aol/en_us/articles.php?boardId=564809&forward=false&listPos=_articleId:16:7928578347962225_threadId:16 :4567371301876618_pageNum:1:2&articleId=49821&func=6&filterRead=true&filterHidden=true&filterUnhidden=false&numPageTokens=3
At 6.14.4 they say "the building section above came down essentially in free fall" without apparently thinking that a rather odd observation, considering the sequential ripple down nature of the conversion of the potential energy of the top load into kinetic energy explosiveness. What is the sound of one hand clapping? Why was the top load not gradually consumed in mutually annihilating explosiveness events at the impact boundary? Perhaps it just accumulated mass like some kind of indestructible gathering snowball of a hammer load!

Uh, yeah, duh:boggled:

[sylvan8798]

May not be a Stundie, but certainly a "wtf?"

Context: phaeton666 tells his fellow truthers on 9/11 movement forum that he has notified Pres. Obama about one of the WTC "vicsims" who appears to be a fake person:

I just alerted President Obama to my research regarding Yesh M. Tembe at http://www.deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/sh...read.php?t=2213

Let's hope nobody will be dying because of this.

Truth. Healing. Justice. Peace.

Carsten Wiethoff

Quote from his post on the www.deeppoliticsforum.com board:

In all searches I never found any document from before 9/11.

Yesh M. Tembe did not exist before 9/11, died on 9/11 and lived 8 years after 9/11.

I am informing the president of the United States and the General Secretary of the UN. Help us God.


God? Really? God? What the hell does he think is going to happen that needs the help of God? (Or is this an invocation for God to assist their "mission"?)

[Cl1mh4224rd]

God? Really? God? What the hell does he think is going to happen that needs the help of God? (Or is this an invocation for God to assist their "mission"?)


To be fair, they certainly do need help of a sort.

Who wants to bet, though, that all his searches involved Google, Bing, and Yahoo?

[carlitos]

Also from the thread that shall not be named, except for honarary stundie-ness.

And there is also the name Ranganath, which bought me to 911 movement user name, Ragnarok.
So what of the possibility that the shills have coded sims.

Am I on the right track, or is my imagination just running wild. I'm determined to get my head around this stuff.
They are accusing Ragnarok of being a shill. :)

[Alareth]

They are accusing Ragnarok of being a shill. :)


There simply aren't enough laughing dogs. If I tried posing them I'd be banned for spamming ...

[Horatius]

Also from the thread that shall not be named, except for honarary stundie-ness.


They are accusing Ragnarok of being a shill. :)



I'm mostly quoting you just to tie in this Ragnarok nomination. He snuck back in after being banned due to a weird forum glitch, just to post this:



Is it really beyond absolutely all possibility that the planes were just covers for a non-conventional, yet still controlled demolition, or do most of you just refuse to dwell on the idea, content as you are to argue "the official position"?

Don't argue the "why's" and "what fors", but try and imagine the "what ifs"!

Yeah, because playing "What if" is really the best way to figure out what happened!


This should really get some sort of award, as the first post-banning JREFF post nominated.

[Dr Adequate]

Over on EvC forums, a creationist explains (http://www.evcforum.net/cgi-bin/dm.cgi?action=page&t=13706&mpp=40&p=6) why we keep asking him for evidence, and why he can't produce it:

You see Granny, this question which has been repeated ad infinitum by you and your cohorts is a perfect example of your blatant dishonesty and disingenuous debating style. It also reveals your sides cockiness and sanctimonious belief that you can con us by insisting that I answer a question you know cannot be answered from any source on the web since you have done the required searches yourself and know it has been erased from the on line journals, so the info no longer exists on the net. Which just confirms the power of this cult.

[Furcifer]

This should really get some sort of award, as the first post-banning JREFF post nominated.

post banned pre-re-banned post nominated. (I think that's about right)

[Orphia Nay]

May not be a Stundie, but certainly a "wtf?"

Yesh M. Tembe did not exist before 9/11, died on 9/11 and lived 8 years after 9/11.


Or a "WTFLOLBBQ!!11!!!!"

:dl:

Definitely some Stundipity there.

[triforcharity]

Here is one from the Stundie capital of the interwebs. Yepo, you guessed it. David Ecke forums. I created a SN over there, as sometimes there is not much going on here. I know, I know, but I gotta kill time somehow.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1058283355&postcount=19
Also, a torch 'cut' would result in a 'clean' cut: you wouldn't produce molten steel

He must think they work like scissors.

[triforcharity]

Here is one that I thought was somewhat amusing.

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=5139868&postcount=1177

Context: Not enough evidence of Flt 77 hitting the Pentagon.


And the photo with the "A" from "American Airlines" on it. The photos of the bodies. The photos of parts that were once said to be engine components of a cruise missile which were later matched to a schematic diagram from an airliner and identified as compressor parts.

The evidence for an airliner hitting the pentagon is massive. Just because National Geographic didn't pore over every single piece of supporting evidence doesn't give any other theories with zero evidence (cruise missile theories) any more weight.

Massive? And did someone say something about a missile here? I think what RedIbis was trying to point out was that if the evidense really was massive then maybe the show could have shown much more than just one photo that didn't even come out until much after 9/11 happened.


So, we were supposed to get th pictures of the Pentagon in flames and collapsing BEFORE it happened!! HOLY SNIKEYS BATMAN!!!

[joe911]

Not a nomination,but its woth a few cheap giggles.

Jesus came down to earth to spread the TRUTH. You COULD say that Jesus was a "Truther".
He was ignored. Then he was ridiculed. And eventually they killed him on the cross. So why would Jesus let that happen ?

[joe911]

I would like to formally nominate this one:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/newreply.php?do=newreply&p=1058288695

Oh My GoshDarn Gosh!!!...... it's really hard to believe that there are still people on this forum who don't think the "Official Story" is 100% hogwash. Forget about scientific details...... common frikking sense is all you need.
Stop the nonsense!

*my bolding

[Horatius]

Here's a nice one from recently-banned Ragnarok: (http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7174&view=findpost&p=15465452)

The way I see it, if there is any plausible reason to believe something is possible, the likelihood is it is, unless someone can provide convincing evidence that it is not. And there is nobody on the side of the derbunkers who can speak knowledgeably about Black Op's.


I hope he's never on a jury.

[triforcharity]

Or reproduces in ANY way. Can we even take his drivers license???

[GlennB]

Or reproduces in ANY way. Can we even take his drivers license???

"...reproduces in ANY way" ???

Budding?
Binary fission?
:D

[triforcharity]

I said ANY way, that includes CLONING!! Lord knows we don't need ANY of his DNA passed onto anyone else. INCLUDING sheep!!! :D

[JAStewart]

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=5149042&postcount=16

bill smith.

As long as there are still 650,000 9/11 websites out there (as there were threee or four years ago) that gives me a fair idea of the size of the Truth Movement. Shall we say 50 or 100 Truthers for every website ?

[sylvan8798]

Christophera, "oh he of the concrete core" points out that another 9/11 truther movement forum poster is not an expert on structural engineering:


The fact is that a damper is a more flexible joint than a hard join with plates, bolts, welds or rivets. If you won't recognize that, maybe you can't discuss "mechanics" at all.

Considering the knowledge falls in "structural engineering" and not "mechanics", it's becoming clear, you are out of your area.
http://forum.911movement.org/index.php?showtopic=7181&st=45

I would join over there, but I can't stoop quite that far. :boggled:

[Cl1mh4224rd]

http://forums.randi.org/showpost.php?p=5149042&postcount=16

bill smith.

As long as there are still 650,000 9/11 websites out there (as there were threee or four years ago) that gives me a fair idea of the size of the Truth Movement. Shall we say 50 or 100 Truthers for every website ?


1) Further proof that even the slow march of time outpaces a truther's mind.

2) "*sniffs wine glass of brownish liquid* Ahh... 2006 9/11 Truth Movement. Fine year, fine year..."

[TokenMac]

We're sunk now, Skeptickler has revealed why no one heard any explosives on 9/11.

Sound is carried by convection currents
Heat causes rising convection currents called thermals.
Explosions cause heat, which causes thermals, which are rising convection currents.
Sound from explosions will be carried on rising convection currents.
Sound from explosions rise, not fall.
Got that mattfactsof911?
Dumbass!
Mattfactof911 tries to cover for us...

so when a jet flies over you, you cant hear it, the engine produces heat which causes thermals, which are rising convection currents.
Sound from jet engines will be carried on rising convection currents.
Sound from jet engines rise, not fall.

but Skeptickler is just too smart.

That's the problem with all you true believers: you're absolutists. You can't distinguish relatively. Because of heat convection, sound will be focused up, along the convection gradient. Think of it like wind. Upwind and shout, and your voice carries. Downwind and the carry is pitiful. Some sound carries, but it is muted. Like the sound from Van Romero's small, strategically placed explosives 800ft up.
http://www.youtube.com/user/mattfactsof911


ETA:
OMG he must be a super genuis.

LOL! So sound isn't carried by a convection current? What is a convection current except a systematic displacement of particles along a specific temperature gradient? An aggregate displacement will affect the sum particular interaction. Sound is particular interaction, hence no sound in a vacuum. Aggregate displacement in one direction will cause sound displacement. Like shouting into a strong wind. Upwind, you won't hear a thing. Downwind and the sound travels for miles. Heat, in effect, produces wind.

Now go figure....
http://www.youtube.com/user/Skeptickler

[Cl1mh4224rd]

You know how most truthers will claim that the sound of the buildings collapsing covered up the sound of the explosives going off? atavisms has taken this to a new and even more insane level by claiming that the sound of the collapses were the sound of the explosives going off.

The sounds? A Massive roar for 15 seconds..Thousands of explosions blurring into one prolonged event.
Which is that, it was thousands of explosions going off over a 15 second period on 9/11 created an extended, very loud, roar [...]

[uk_dave]

..... by claiming that the sound of the collapses were the sound of the explosives going off.

So now it's HushaCollapseTM?

[jaydeehess]

You know how most truthers will claim that the sound of the buildings collapsing covered up the sound of the explosives going off? atavisms has taken this to a new and even more insane level by claiming that the sound of the collapses were the sound of the explosives going off.

I've witnessed a rockslide. Sounded much like the extended roar of the towers coming down. I wonder where the explosives were planted?

[GlennB]

We're sunk now, Skeptickler has revealed why no one heard any explosives on 9/11.



"Sound is caused by convection currents" ???
Ah. This explains why the hot air rising off my front yard is making so much noise. Damn noisy hot air.

[Horatius]

We're sunk now, Skeptickler has revealed why no one heard any explosives on 9/11.



A classic example of "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing". Air currents, and differential temperature layers, can affect how sound propagates, but the notion that this can account for the complete lack of any noise from 130dB explosions is just daft.....

[eromitlab]

Ah, these troofers on the internet always claiming to be experts in the relevant fields... but, conveniently enough, it doesn't really matter.

I have massive experience with shills and trolls, including ones identified to be on DoD, FBI, NSA, and Secret Service payroll. I have seen many documents on agency letterhead describing how to inject disinfo. I said your post "reads like" textbook shilling. It doesn't matter why, it doesn't matter what your motive is, nor whether you are being paid. All that matters is you commit gross logical fallacies in defense of treasonous mass murderers. Nothing else matters in relation to your post herein, except that it gets called out for the :rule10 it is.

http://www.reddit.com/r/videos/comments/9p2jr/although_80000_new_yorkers_have_voice_their/c0ds9j8

[Sam.I.Am]

Is it cheating to post links to the David Icke forums? 'cause the stupidity there is just so thick, it just feels wrong.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=1250069&postcount=287

"If the atom bomb was anything more than wishful thinking we could imagine a submarine commander going rogue and pounding any nation on the planet back to the stone age, maybe most of them, to smitherines with only the firepower onboard. The rogue sub could launch from the continental shelf of the US for example and knock out her command centres with lightning fast nuclear strikes. The sub would strike one city, submerge, reappear at a more northern position on the coastline and strike again with apparent impunity. Then they could go around the continent and strike the other coasts with as much fury. The reason this has never occured is because the atom bomb claims are bogus."

That is :talk034: hilarious. I have 8 strategic deterrence patrols under my belt and I can guarantee that that not only couldn't that happen for many reasons I'm not going to discuss for obvious reasons, but also because the odds were that if we launched even one bird they would track it back to the datum point where we launched from and send one or more back at us. It's one of the main reasons that the maximum time allowed for a full salvo of 16 weapons was 15 minutes or less.

[Horatius]

Here it is folks! Classic Stundie! (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=325430&t=2328127)


I recently discovered something which I completely forgot about and I'm not sure if any of you are aware of this back in 1994.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frank_Eugene_Corder

Frank Eugene Corder


Frank Eugene Corder (May 26, 1956 – September 12, 1994) crashed a stolen Cessna 150 onto the South Lawn of the White House early on September 12, 1994, apparently trying to hit the building; he was killed, and was the sole casualty....

....He stole the Cessna on the night of September 11 and departed from Aldino Airport in Maryland severely intoxicated, which is presumed to have led to his later miscalculation. The plane was noticed by radar technicians at National Airport several minutes before he tried to steer it into the wall of the White House. At 1:49 a.m., he hit the South Lawn and died on impact.

The crash caused a re-evaluation in security procedures around the White House, as the pilot had entered restricted airspace. Though the White House is rumored to be equipped with surface-to-air missiles, none were fired. The Secret Service has neither confirmed nor dispelled the rumor.

Amazing, back in 93 a guy tries to hit the white house with a single engine cessna and fails, yet Atta will manage to fly unheeded into restricted airspace and uses his awesome piloting skills with the twin jet engined plane and hit the wall of the pentagon without leaving so much as a scratch on the grass. :blink:

And when debunkers use the argument that the military had no capability of dealing with domestic terrorists threats targeting America, this suggest otherwise.


I'll point out one logical flaw; everyone else post the others! One per person!


1) Because one (drunk) pilot couldn't hit a building, the other (sober) pilot couldn't hit another (larger) building.

[Cl1mh4224rd]

1) Because one (drunk) pilot couldn't hit a building, the other (sober) pilot couldn't hit another (larger) building.


Weee... This isn't a logical fallacy, but rather a factual inaccuracy:

2) Mohammad Atta piloted Flight 11 (not Flight 77) into the South Tower (not the Pentagon) in New York City (not Washington, D.C.), which wasn't restricted airspace.

[triforcharity]

#3- The plane wasn't shot down. It crashed.

[Klimax]

4# False analogy...

[Dave Rogers]

#5 Texas Sharpshooter fallacy, missing the Pentagon lawn wasn't a major objective.

[Dr Adequate]

We're sunk now, Skeptickler has revealed why no one heard any explosives on 9/11. "Sound is carried by convection currents" has my vote. No-one can have done dumber than that this month. This ranks alongside the thing about gravity being caused by air pressure as one of the all-time physics fails.

[Alareth]

Here it is folks! Classic Stundie! (http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/single/?p=325430&t=2328127)





I'll point out one logical flaw; everyone else post the others! One per person!


1) Because one (drunk) pilot couldn't hit a building, the other (sober) pilot couldn't hit another (larger) building.


He did it on 9/11!

NWO numerology in action!

[sylvan8798]

Amazing, back in 93 a guy tries to hit the white house with a single engine

'93, '94, who's counting...

[sylvan8798]

I love when they try to use their brains: :rolleyes:


Uhh, someone has given you very bad information.

Use your brain for a minute. If the towers were bolted together instead of welded, don't you think the NIST would have seized upon this very serious design flaw in their report and presented as the reason why the towers collapsed?? But they haven't, because it isn't true.

If the towers were bolted instead of welded together, they wouldn't be able to stand for one day, much less for 30+ years! No bolt in the world is strong enough to hold up that kind of weight, millions of tons of steel and concrete, which is why steel buildings are always welded not bolted together!


http://s1.zetaboards.com/LooseChangeForums/topic/1992629/1/

But what about millions of bolts?

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Weee... This isn't a logical fallacy, but rather a factual inaccuracy:

2) Mohammad Atta piloted Flight 11 (not Flight 77) into the South Tower (not the Pentagon) in New York City (not Washington, D.C.), which wasn't restricted airspace.


I need to correct myself. Flight 11 impacted the North Tower, not the South Tower.

[Mancman]

Ace Baker, on the 9/11 Truth Movement Facebook forum:

They didn't find a "767" engine. They found part of an engine fan, which I think was shot out of a cannon on the 89th floor. Because the cannon was so near the perimeter, it had to be melted down prior to demolition, lest it be found. Unfortunately, the molten iron came pouring out of the window on television. That's why they had to blow WTC2 so early.

http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2204686781&topic=11533#topic_top

[fullflavormenthol]

Crazy Ace Baker....

[JohnG]

Crazy Ace Baker....


Now that is what I call one complicated conspiracy. I can't help but wonder why they didn't just fly planes into buildings? Sure it lacks a certain gonzo Bondian excess, but isn't it ultimately just as effective?

[R.Mackey]

For the record, if I'd have done it, I'd have used a catapult. A nice, flammable catapult.

:tinfoil

[Klimax]

Ace Baker, on the 9/11 Truth Movement Facebook forum:



http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=2204686781&topic=11533#topic_top

That's so completely ....

For the record, if I'd have done it, I'd have used a catapult. A nice, flammable catapult.

:tinfoil

Any why to shoot it,when you can have it simply there... :duck:

[Dave Rogers]

Ace Baker, on the 9/11 Truth Movement Facebook forum:

I have to say, that's so crazy only Ace could have thought of it. Which is nice, because it's the clearest evidence I've seen that he didn't commit suicide on a live radio phone-in, just pretended to; up till now I wasn't sure. I think he's insane, but at least he's sincere, and I bear him no ill will; I was rather concerned for him.

Dave

[Horatius]

For the record, if I'd have done it, I'd have used a catapult. A nice, flammable catapult.

:tinfoil



Let's split the difference:


http://www.kewego.com/video/iLyROoaftMYP.html

[Nosi]

Is there a word for "so far beyond stupid it is unprintable in a public forum"?

Just when you think you've seen the outer limits of stupid, someone proves you wrong.:jaw-dropp

In this forum, that rule is rule 10. Other forums will allow you to print all sorts of filthy disgusting descriptions of stupid.

Of course, some of the .jpeg's for stupid out there will get you slapped with the rule ten bat too.:mgduh

[Nosi]

I could almost feel same absolute stupidity as from previous link to flatearthsociety...

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