The judgment of San Francisco and LA in prophecy

[Dani' El]

28Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

31In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

32Remember Lot's wife.

I am the end times "Lot" of this prophecy that describes the destruction of an last days Sodom and Gomorrah, San Francisco and LA.

On the day that I leave SF for Israel, God will destroy SF and LA with fire and brimstone from heaven.
That day is Yom Kippur, 2009.
Or Sept 28-29, 2009 some 4 weeks away.

That day will be the day that Atheism dies.
Sure the muslims will claim that their idol did it, but they do not have this prophecy found in Luke 17 to back that up.

I am a Messianic Jew, a Jewish believer in Jesus Christ.

This coming judgment will give me great authority to preach the gospel in Israel.

I know this is a largely atheist forum, so on that day, you will have no more excuses for unbelief.
You should realize that you deserve the same wrath, fear God, turn from your wicked ways and put your faith in Messiah Yeshua who alone can save you from such wrath.

I don't know if this qualifies me to win Randi's prize money, but if so, please send the check to-
Voice of the Martyrs, Canada.

And look for me in Jerusalem.

My name is Dani' El Ben Freeman.
Servant of the Living God of Israel.

[Hokulele]

I don't know if this qualifies me to win Randi's prize money, but if so, please send the check to-
Voice of the Martyrs, Canada.


You may want to read the rules for the Million Dollar Challenge.

What exactly do you mean by "destroyed with fire and brimstone from Heaven"? Are you referring to wildfires, a major earthquake, or do you believe that there will be actual fire and brimstone raining down and there will be no structures or people in the LA basin and San Francisco on 30 September, 2009?

[JimBenArm]

Think you could put it off a couple of days? I have an appointment with my endocrinoligist on the 30th, and I already had to reschedule it once. She'll get mad and jab me with needles and stuff if I put it off again.
Anyway, Dani, are you any relation to Josh Freeman? He's a pretty good quarterback that used to play for K-State. Don't think he was Jewish, though. At least he didn't LOOK Jewish, being 6'6" and all.

Look for me in Kansas City, on the Missouri side

My name is JimBenArm
Servant of the Living Hokulele of Randi

[Hokulele]

She'll get mad and jab me with needles and stuff if I put it off again.


Just be happy she doesn't rain fire and brimstone down on you.

[JimBenArm]

Just be happy she doesn't rain fire and brimstone down on you.
Meh. I'm an ex-Nuke. I am made of fire and brimstone.

[Thunder]

28Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

31In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

32Remember Lot's wife.

I am the end times "Lot" of this prophecy that describes the destruction of an last days Sodom and Gomorrah, San Francisco and LA. .

This must be one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

Entertaining...but dumb.

[Thunder]

I am a Messianic Jew, a Jewish believer in Jesus Christ.

This coming judgment will give me great authority to preach the gospel in Israel.

I know this is a largely atheist forum, so on that day, you will have no more excuses for unbelief.
You should realize that you deserve the same wrath, fear God, turn from your wicked ways and put your faith in Messiah Yeshua who alone can save you from such wrath.

Ahh...now it all makes sense!!

Did Ashton Kutscher put you up to this??? Are we being punked??

Ashton...where are you?

[SphereGuy]

Mmm, sodomy and gomorrahy.

[Lisa Simpson]

Pfft...I'm in Orange County. I'm sure the brimstone will stop at the OC/LA border.

[Pure Argent]

28Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

31In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

32Remember Lot's wife.

Oh, look. Scripture! Never seen that before.

I am the end times "Lot" of this prophecy that describes the destruction of an last days Sodom and Gomorrah, San Francisco and LA.

O_o






o_O

On the day that I leave SF for Israel, God will destroy SF and LA with fire and brimstone from heaven.
That day is Yom Kippur, 2009.
Or Sept 28-29, 2009 some 4 weeks away.

http://blog.pharmalive.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/o_rly.jpg

That day will be the day that Atheism dies.
Sure the muslims will claim that their idol did it, but they do not have this prophecy found in Luke 17 to back that up.

Okay... are you... are you being serious here? Really? Is this a joke of some kind? Or are you in need of serious mental help?

I am a Messianic Jew, a Jewish believer in Jesus Christ.

Uhh... congratulations?

This coming judgment will give me great authority to preach the gospel in Israel.

Great. So you see the planned deaths of hundreds of thousands of people as a way to advance your personal agenda. That's not an unhealthy worldview at all.

I know this is a largely atheist forum, so on that day, you will have no more excuses for unbelief.

Look. Until this actually happens, shut up.

You should realize that you deserve the same wrath, fear God, turn from your wicked ways and put your faith in Messiah Yeshua who alone can save you from such wrath.

Oh, look. Flaming. Never seen that before.

I don't know if this qualifies me to win Randi's prize money, but if so, please send the check to-
Voice of the Martyrs, Canada.

I'm pretty sure that your proposal involving the death of many people disqualifies you.

And look for me in Jerusalem.

My name is Dani' El Ben Freeman.
Servant of the Living God of Israel.

Congratulations. You're insane. That is all.

[RoboTimbo]

I am the end times "Lot" of this prophecy that describes the destruction of an last days Sodom and Gomorrah, San Francisco and LA.

On the day that I leave SF for Israel, God will destroy SF and LA with fire and brimstone from heaven.
That day is Yom Kippur, 2009.
Or Sept 28-29, 2009 some 4 weeks away.

I'm sure the possiblity is remote that this won't happen but just in case, on the way outside chance that it doesn't happen, are you still leaving the US?

[Pure Argent]

I'm sure the possiblity is remote that this won't happen but just in case, on the way outside chance that it doesn't happen, are you still leaving the US?

Oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please, oh please...

[shadron]

Talk to me again on October 1. Have a crow ready.

except....

I always thought they were Cleveland and Cincinnati.

[The Man]

On the day that I leave SF for Israel, God will destroy SF and LA with fire and brimstone from heaven.
That day is Yom Kippur, 2009.
Or Sept 28-29, 2009 some 4 weeks away.


Sounds like you’ve got a plot outline for a sequel to the movie Volcano (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volcano_(film))

Just don’t look back when you go!!!!!

[Foolmewunz]

And here I was, moping around because there's no Rapture on the near horizon, and what with 2012 so far off....

Dani' El, So you're Lot, then? Must be pretty rough carrying that burden all these centuries. Have you met our good friend Galileo? (And could you take him with you, maybe?)

[Foolmewunz]

I think we better start the countdown.


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[ParrotPirate]

28Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

31In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

32Remember Lot's wife.

I am the end times "Lot" of this prophecy that describes the destruction of an last days Sodom and Gomorrah, San Francisco and LA.

On the day that I leave SF for Israel, God will destroy SF and LA with fire and brimstone from heaven.
That day is Yom Kippur, 2009.
Or Sept 28-29, 2009 some 4 weeks away.

That day will be the day that Atheism dies.
Sure the muslims will claim that their idol did it, but they do not have this prophecy found in Luke 17 to back that up.

I am a Messianic Jew, a Jewish believer in Jesus Christ.

This coming judgment will give me great authority to preach the gospel in Israel.

I know this is a largely atheist forum, so on that day, you will have no more excuses for unbelief.
You should realize that you deserve the same wrath, fear God, turn from your wicked ways and put your faith in Messiah Yeshua who alone can save you from such wrath.

I don't know if this qualifies me to win Randi's prize money, but if so, please send the check to-
Voice of the Martyrs, Canada.

And look for me in Jerusalem.

My name is Dani' El Ben Freeman.
Servant of the Living God of Israel.

Yeah,Right. And when it doesn't happen,you'll just change the date like all the other fakers.

[LostAngeles]

Yeah, ok.

[Kurse]

This person makes me what to choke little kittens.

Look, your dumb. I know it's hard to believe! Being that you think your some guy in a book. But yeah, your dumb.

You see, you say your a jew but I'm pretty sure jewish people don't believe in reincarnation. Even so, your really not that special. Everyone has a dream, or a belief at some point, but your dumb enough to actually keep believing that you are someone else.

You are not a prophet, you do not deserve to have a voice. What you are, is a terrorist.

[Sun Countess]

I won't be cancelling my plans to visit LA this Christmas. Just sayin'. So don't go burying "atheism" prematurely.

And I hope you don't have any daughters. :rolleyes:

[Hokulele]

This person makes me what to choke little kittens.

Look, your dumb. I know it's hard to believe! Being that you think your some guy in a book. But yeah, your dumb.

You see, you say your a jew but I'm pretty sure jewish people don't believe in reincarnation. Even so, your really not that special. Everyone has a dream, or a belief at some point, but your dumb enough to actually keep believing that you are someone else.

You are not a prophet, you do not deserve to have a voice. What you are, is a terrorist.


Welcome to the forums!

I don't want to sound discouraging, but you may want to review your membership agreement.

[wollery]

At least he didn't LOOK Jewish, being 6'6" and all. What, there are no 6'6" Jews?

[Lonewulf]

You see, you say your a jew but I'm pretty sure jewish people don't believe in reincarnation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Messianic_Judaism

Like other Christians, its adherents believe that Jesus of Nazareth, whom they call Yeshua, is the resurrected Messiah and often the Divine Savior.[1][2][3] Messianic Judaism adds to this some observance of Jewish Law, which is not generally practiced (and often discouraged) in Christian churches.[4] These observances include observing Jewish Shabbat, abstaining from pork, shellfish, and other foods banned by Jewish law, and observing Jewish holidays. As of 2003, there were at least 150 Messianic synagogues in the U.S. and over 400 worldwide.[5] By 2008, the number of Messianics in the United States was around a quarter million.[6] The number of Messianic Jews in Israel is reported to be anywhere between 6,000 and 15,000 members, including the mainly Messianic Jewish village of Yad HaShmona, near Jerusalem.[7][8]

As for the rest of your post: I'm no mod, but I'd just suggest to tone down the personal attacks.

[Doctor Evil]

Pfft...I'm in Orange County. I'm sure the brimstone will stop at the OC/LA border.

I will certainly blame you if it does not. ;)

[Aepervius]

This must be one of the dumbest things I have ever read.

Entertaining...but dumb.

You must be new to that Internet things. That does not even reach my top 1000

[Foolmewunz]

Oooh, it gets better. It'll be compliments of the Yellowstone Caldera!

http://www.lamblion.us/2009/02/divided-states-of-america.html




I am a Messianic Jew living in Sodom California (San Francisco) on the day that I leave for Israel, SF, LA, Las Vegas etc will be destroyed by the Yellowstone Caldera......and soon!

To the elect of the western US..Remember Lot's wife!

What is left of the USA will be absorbed into the North American Union.

With the US so weakened, all the world's hot spots will explode into war. Pakistan/India, North/South Korea, China/Taiwan, and esp Syria/Israel, leading to the destruction of Damascus and the Gog/Magog war.

From this time of war the Antichrist will arise preaching peace when there is no peace.

The whole world will divided into 10 economic zones, the 10 toes of Daniel's prophecy. The EU, The african Union, The north American Union, the Arab league of psalm 83 etc.

The Yellowstone Caldera will be the linchpin God will pull to set teh dominoes falling all the way to armegeddon.

Rend your hearts and be ready.
Repent or you will likewise perish!

And there's always this illuminating section....

Luk 17:37 And they answered and said to Him, "Where, Lord?" So He said to them, "Wherever the body is, there the eagles will be gathered together."

This verse is basically saying, "If the shoe fits, wear it".
San Francisco is the end times Sodom described in Luke 17.

There is much more to this story, but I'll just say, to bring this message, I've been beaten, arrested and jailed without charge or a lawyer, kicked and spat on, threatened and abused for the last 3 1/2 years.
I've even come face to face with Satan himself in 2005.
Please don't think I'm crazy, I am not.
This is the reason America is absent from end times prophecy.

The Yellowstone Caldera began to build up steam last Christmas and the judgment is determined.

Again, to God's elect in the weatern USA.
REMEMBER LOT'S WIFE!!

When the judgment is fulfilled, I will be in Jerusalem preaching the Gospel of Messiah Yeshua to the house of Israel.

My real name is-
Dani' El Ben Freeman

[Kurse]

Welcome to the forums!

I don't want to sound discouraging, but you may want to review your membership agreement.

Thanks! =]. And I will.
I dont respond well to threats.
Sorry for the flame =[.

[Gord_in_Toronto]

I call TROLL!

Voice of the Martyrs, Canada has a website at:

http://www.persecution.net/

and appears to be reasonably sane.

[Hokulele]

Oooh, it gets better. It'll be compliments of the Yellowstone Caldera!


Ah, so not only will Dani'El's god cause the caldera to erupt, the same god will reverse the dominant weather patterns on the continental US.

*facepalm*

[Hokulele]

Thanks! =]. And I will.
I dont respond well to threats.
Sorry for the flame =[.


No worries, I can certainly understand the temptation. I would just hate to lose you before we have a chance to know you. :)

[SezMe]

Poe's Law, from a n00b, yet. Way too soon to tell.

ETA: Hmmm, Foolmewunz's data points to delusion.

[ravdin]

What about Berkeley? We're at least as wicked as San Francisco. I hope we're not left out!

[Lonewulf]

From the OP at that Other Place:

I prayed the Father and He sent fire from heaven that kindled nearly 1000 wildfires in California.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,370544,00.html

They've been warned all right.

Isn't God's love great?

[Elizabeth I]

I'm upset about the Yellowstone Caldera. I love Yellowstone Park!

Won't somebody think of the buffalo?

[arthwollipot]

That day is Yom Kippur, 2009.
Or Sept 28-29, 2009 some 4 weeks away.I've added it to my calendar. I'll see you here on the 30th.

[Hokulele]

What about Berkeley? We're at least as wicked as San Francisco. I hope we're not left out!


Berkeley was destroyed 40 years ago. You all just haven't noticed yet. ;)

[Lonewulf]

Also:

Ezek 16:49

Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom, pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

[The Man]

Oooh, it gets better. It'll be compliments of the Yellowstone Caldera!

http://www.lamblion.us/2009/02/divided-states-of-america.html






And there's always this illuminating section....

So I was right, it is a sequel to "Volcano".

Nostradamus ain’t got nothing on me.

[Pure Argent]

So... what's the betting that Dani' El will actually return?

[Lonewulf]

1:0 against.

[Foolmewunz]

What about Berkeley? We're at least as wicked as San Francisco. I hope we're not left out!

If the Yellowstone Caldera blows, not only will Berkeley not be spared, neither will places as far away as Vancouver and Denver! That's, to use the technical geological term, one big muthabejumpin caldera there! In fact, knowing the after-effects that were documented from Krakatoa, I'd say Hokulele's not safe on Hawaii, nor would I be, here. The three to seven years of darkness might have some impact in a lot of places.

[Elizabeth I]

1:0 against.

Are those the Vegas odds?

[Lonewulf]

I have no idea. I'm not Vegas.

They're the Skeptic's Odds!

[arthwollipot]

So... what's the betting that Dani' El will actually return?I think it's pretty much a given, don't you?

[Hokulele]

If the Yellowstone Caldera blows, not only will Berkeley not be spared, neither will places as far away as Vancouver and Denver! That's, to use the technical geological term, one big muthabejumpin caldera there! In fact, knowing the after-effects that were documented from Krakatoa, I'd say Hokulele's not safe on Hawaii, nor would I be, here. The three to seven years of darkness might have some impact in a lot of places.


Oh, sure. Yellowstone going BLAMMO would affect global weather patterns for a very long time.

That isn't the same thing as raining "fire and brimstone" on California, however. Pretty much the opposite effect, really.

[Pure Argent]

Ooh! Ooh! I just thought of something else!

What if Dani's car breaks down on his/her way out of San Fransisco? Will it still be destroyed?

[Kurse]

*Replying to Lonewulf*

Reincarnation, literally "to be made flesh again", is a doctrine or metaphysical belief that some essential part of a living being (in some variations only human beings) survives death to be reborn in a new body
wikipedia on reincarnation
The resurrection of dead humans is a central doctrine of Judaism and Christianity, and Islam. It may refer either to the resurrection of particular individuals, or a general resurrection of humanity.
wikipedia on resurrection

(i can't post urls yet.)

Their messiah was resurrected as the same person.
Reincarnation is when a person dies, and this such person comes back as another living thing. Such as another person, plant or animal.

[Foolmewunz]

Ooh! Ooh! I just thought of something else!

What if Dani's car breaks down on his/her way out of San Fransisco? Will it still be destroyed?

I think the more interesting picture is his plane flying WNW out of SFO over Yellowstone.

Kablooey!

[fromdownunder]

So is it safe to assume that when this predicted (if that is the word I am groping for) event does not happen, that Dani' EI will remove preaching to the world from his "things to do in October" list?

Norm

[Tinyal]

28Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded;
29But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all.
30Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

31In that day, he which shall be upon the housetop, and his stuff in the house, let him not come down to take it away: and he that is in the field, let him likewise not return back.

32Remember Lot's wife.

I am the end times "Lot" of this prophecy that describes the destruction of an last days Sodom and Gomorrah, San Francisco and LA.

On the day that I leave SF for Israel, God will destroy SF and LA with fire and brimstone from heaven.
That day is Yom Kippur, 2009.
Or Sept 28-29, 2009 some 4 weeks away.

That day will be the day that Atheism dies.
Sure the muslims will claim that their idol did it, but they do not have this prophecy found in Luke 17 to back that up.

I am a Messianic Jew, a Jewish believer in Jesus Christ.

This coming judgment will give me great authority to preach the gospel in Israel.

I know this is a largely atheist forum, so on that day, you will have no more excuses for unbelief.
You should realize that you deserve the same wrath, fear God, turn from your wicked ways and put your faith in Messiah Yeshua who alone can save you from such wrath.

I don't know if this qualifies me to win Randi's prize money, but if so, please send the check to-
Voice of the Martyrs, Canada.

And look for me in Jerusalem.

My name is Dani' El Ben Freeman.
Servant of the Living God of Israel.

My first thought whenever I hear/read this sort of bullcrap is to laugh & think 'how could someone hold such idiotic beliefs?' and 'they must be a poe, or just writing for attention or for a few laughs' or 'how sad someone has to say such things just to get whatever they need in life - how lonely they must be?'.

However, over the years, I've have come to think that people who firmly hold such ideas as expressed in the OP aren't just to be pitied, or ignored, or laughed at - they must also be closely watched, as people who think this way are - by any definition of the word - insane.

As such, they are often also very, very dangerous to their fellow human beings, as when their stupid prophesy fails, they may seek to try to fulfill it in other ways (ie , setting fires, harming others, etc).

This isn't funny anymore -it's a sign of severe mental disability, damage, or disease. If there was any way I could report such people to medical personnel for examination - preserving their rights at the same time, I would do so. Can't happen - beside's the fact they can effectively hide behind the internet, in reality, as long as they've broken no laws, nothing can be done.

Also, I have strong reservations about punishing anyone just for the way they believe (strong meaning I am 110% against it - and willing to fight to prevent it) - yet...yet.

Yet I have far less problems with watching such people closely, to assure the rest of society they aren't going to harm others (or themselves) and that their fantasy's are simply that - fantasy.

[Pure Argent]

So is it safe to assume that when this predicted (if that is the word I am groping for) event does not happen, that Dani' EI will remove preaching to the world from his "things to do in October" list?

Norm

What do you think?

[SezMe]

Kablooey!
You logicians and your highly technical language .....

[Simon39759]

So is it safe to assume that when this predicted (if that is the word I am groping for) event does not happen, that Dani' EI will remove preaching to the world from his "things to do in October" list?

Norm



HA! No!

It might be a Poe but if not, Dani'el (based, of course, on Daniel, one of the most famous prophet of the O.T) will simply wave it away and get cranking to the next one.

[bokonon]

Thanks for the warning, fruit loops. I just invited the living god up to my room to view my etch-a-sketch sketches, slipped him a mickey, and buried him under the "Y" in the Hollywood sign.

That was close.

If you'll send me a picture, I'm pretty sure we can make a killing selling Dani'El Ben Freeman toilet paper at the Atheist's Convention in LA on October 2. I'll split the profits with you 60-40, to help reimburse your travel expenses to Israel. If they deny you a visa, it will have to be 80-20, but that should still get you dinner at Ruth's Chris.

[quarky]

I feel used, but it was my fault for chasing this ambulance.The o.p. was so juicy...it was like skeptic porn. I want him back so badly, I may have to go look at Miley Cyrus videos for distraction.

[Lord Emsworth]

Newbie.

[Dani' El]

Ok, I'm back, so you can settle up your bets.

Please be patient as my time online is limited and I'm buried with questions.

I invite you to my blog for much more, esp my um... rather unusual testimonies.
Mock away, I'm quite used to it.

thejudgmentofsanfranciscoluke17.blogspot.com

I'll do my best to answer some questions.

1) Although there may be a quake involved, it won't be a mere quake, or terror attack bombing etc, it will be literal flaming sulfur from the skies.
I have no direct revelation as to how it may happen, the Yellowstone Caldera, (an omnipotent God cannot limit it? or send it where He will? Silly!) or maybe the dozen or so dormant volcanoes in Calif?
God can simply open up new ones along the San Andreas...anyway, it will not be "the big one" or not it alone, but literal flaming sulfur from the skies that destroys SF and LA.

2.) The scope of the destruction.
I'll just say this one thing, God is FURIOUS with this nation and Calif in particular. He would be justified in blowing the whole western US off the map and more, but I think it will be everything from SF to San Diego, maybe even Las Vegas and more. The "cities on the plain" as it were.

3) The results of this judgment.
One is that many will be saved by it, as it is written,
"When your judgments are in the earth, then the inhabitants will learn righteousness"
And-
"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom".

Another is that it will give me great authority to preach the Gospel of Messiah Yeshua to the house of Israel which is job number one for me.

And another is simple justice.
The wicked cities of Calif are long overdue for judgment.
Hollywood esp has been the mecca of Satanic evangelism for decades.
SF? nuff said.

The breaking of America's back will unseat the balance of power in the world, and all the hotspots will erupt into war.
N and S Korea (Kim Jong is dying and would love to set off some kind of suicidal attack)
Pakistan- the taliban are seeking to get control of the nukes to attack India
Chavez is seeking to attack Columbia.
And esp Iran/Syria verses Israel
etc.

"Nation shall rise against nation"

And from this time of great war, that Antichrist will come deceiveing with talk of peace.
(He is alive on the earth and waiting for his time.)

So the judgment of Calif will set the dominoes falling all the way to armegeddon.

That's all for today-
Be back tomorrow.

Kol tuv
Dani' El

[Foster Zygote]

Although there may be a quake involved, it won't be a mere quake, or terror attack bombing etc, it will be literal flaming sulfur from the skies.
I have no direct revelation as to how it may happen, the Yellowstone Caldera, (an omnipotent God cannot limit it? or send it where He will? Silly!) or maybe the dozen or so dormant volcanoes in Calif?
God can simply open up new ones along the San Andreas...anyway, it will not be "the big one" or not it alone, but literal flaming sulfur from the skies that destroys SF and LA.

So all this is going to happen at the end of September, eh? Well, this is a very specific prophecy which is certainly testable. If, as you predict, San Francisco and Los Angeles are destroyed by flaming sulfur from the skies on the 28-29 of September, 2009 then it would be hard to argue against your gift of prophecy. On the other hand, if October rolls around and the people of San Francisco and Los Angeles are still going about their business as always, it would be strong evidence that you are deeply delusional and, according to your own Bible, a false prophet.

[Dani' El]

So all this is going to happen at the end of September, eh? Well, this is a very specific prophecy which is certainly testable. If, as you predict, San Francisco and Los Angeles are destroyed by flaming sulfur from the skies on the 28-29 of September, 2009 then it would be hard to argue against your gift of prophecy. On the other hand, if October rolls around and the people of San Francisco and Los Angeles are still going about their business as always, it would be strong evidence that you are deeply delusional and, according to your own Bible, a false prophet.

That's the test of a prophet all right.

But I have 100% confidence.

Not long to wait.

Also, I am not Lot reincarnated, but Lot did foreshadow me in the Genesis account.

Shalom,
Dani' El

[Hokulele]

That's the test of a prophet all right.

But I have 100% confidence.

Not long to wait.


Are you willing to come back to this forum and discuss this if October rolls in and California is the same as it ever was?

[Foster Zygote]

That's the test of a prophet all right.

But I have 100% confidence.

Not long to wait.

Also, I am not Lot reincarnated, but Lot did foreshadow me in the Genesis account.

Shalom,
Dani' El

Will your confidence be shaken should your prediction fail to manifest?

[Foster Zygote]

Are you willing to come back to this forum and discuss this if October rolls in and California is the same as it ever was?

I prophesy that the date will be quietly altered.

[Dani' El]

Your proposition is outside the realm of reality for me.

I could ask you, "What will you do if you wake up to find the world is flat, and you are a golden tuna fish in a bowl?"

I have 100% confidence, so I will not even consider the possibiltity that God lied to me, etc.

I would have to deny reality to even consider it.
You'd have to witness what I have seen to understand, but please just wait and see.

The whole world will see me in Jerusalem on Yom Kippur, and I'll be very busy, (hamas and hezbollah are sure to give me a big welcoming party.) so I will not be able to check in here.

Of course by then, it will be settled.
(btw, I've got a few more minutes left before my puter time runs out, so I'll be back tomorrow.)

[Simon39759]

Also, I am not Lot reincarnated, but Lot did foreshadow me in the Genesis account.

Hmm, that seems a bit megalomaniacal a statement.

Did Lot even write prophecies?
I only remember him giving away his daughter so they could be raped and ending up banging them himself (I suppose that when you want a job done right...). I don't remember any prophecies...


Well, it certainly would be amazing if you were to be corret, thankfully, it seems tremendously unlikely to me.
At least, the prediction will come fast and be easy to verify.

Just to clarify, we are talking, total and utter destruction, right?
Involving fire and brimstone coming from the sky, correct? And soon followed by a rise in the number of local conflicts?
So, a local fire, like are bounds to happen all the time in any major city. Or even a series of wildfire like happened in October 2007 would not qualify, correct?

Let's clarify our criteria, here, we are talking about a major event that will send considerable disruption to the whole planet, I don't want any ambiguity.

[Foster Zygote]

I would have to deny reality to even consider it.

Based on experience, I suspect that you will deny reality when nothing unusual happens to SF & LA.

Just out of curiosity, have you made any other predictions that actually occurred?

[Dani' El]

Are you willing to come back to this forum and discuss this if October rolls in and California is the same as it ever was?

You one Hawaiian?

I lived on the north shore of Maui for a couple of years.
Peahi.

[RoboTimbo]

Ok, I'm back, so you can settle up your bets.

Please be patient as my time online is limited and I'm buried with questions.


But are you still leaving the US?

[oldhat]

The wicked cities of Calif are long overdue for judgment.
Hollywood esp has been the mecca of Satanic evangelism for decades.
SF? nuff said.


God HATES dim sum.

It's funny because when I worked in Hollywood, Jews for Jesus (that's you, Dani'el) were out there handing out leaflets right alongside Tony Alamo and the Scientologists. Does that make you a Satanic evangelist?

[Hokulele]

Your proposition is outside the realm of reality for me.


And likewise. This is why if you wish for me to consider your prophecy could be true, you must consider that it could be false.

However, there is an easy way to test your conviction and sincerity, we can make a bet. If California ceases to be before October, I will be more than happy to spread the news of your status as a prophet any way you see fit, including donating my time and money to the cause. If there is no change, you will donate $100 (USD) to the JREF.

Deal?

[Dani' El]

Hmm, that seems a bit megalomaniacal a statement.

Did Lot even write prophecies?
I only remember him giving away his daughter so they could be raped and ending up banging them himself (I suppose that when you want a job done right...). I don't remember any prophecies...


Well, it certainly would be amazing if you were to be corret, thankfully, it seems tremendously unlikely to me.
At least, the prediction will come fast and be easy to verify.

Just to clarify, we are talking, total and utter destruction, right?
Involving fire and brimstone coming from the sky, correct? And soon followed by a rise in the number of local conflicts?
So, a local fire, like are bounds to happen all the time in any major city. Or even a series of wildfire like happened in October 2007 would not qualify, correct?

Let's clarify our criteria, here, we are talking about a major event that will send considerable disruption to the whole planet, I don't want any ambiguity.

Yes, that's right.
No mere wildfire or quake.

And all of the true Christians (we are very few here) will be delivered so you will be hearing from them about the flight the next day.
Sadly, you may see a few pillars of salt in the news as well.
That's why Luke 17 gives the warning to "Remember Lot's wife".

[Hokulele]

You one Hawaiian?

I lived on the north shore of Maui for a couple of years.
Peahi.


I currently live on Maui and know Peahi quite well. That is a beautiful part of the island.

[Dani' El]

And likewise. This is why if you wish for me to consider your prophecy could be true, you must consider that it could be false.

However, there is an easy way to test your conviction and sincerity, we can make a bet. If California ceases to be before October, I will be more than happy to spread the news of your status as a prophet any way you see fit, including donating my time and money to the cause. If there is no change, you will donate $100 (USD) to the JREF.

Deal?

No deal.
I don't gamble with the resources God gives me.

And to consider that God lied to me is deeply offensive.
I will not even let the thought enter my mind.

So the only thing to do is wait.

A hui ho
Dani' El

[Foster Zygote]

And all of the true Christians (we are very few here) will be delivered so you will be hearing from them about the flight the next day.

And this flight will be made in an airplane?

[slingblade]

You are not a prophet, you do not deserve to have a voice.

My friend Beeps says that freedom of speech is so wonderful, because it lets you easily distinguish who the morons are.

Everyone deserves a voice.

And try to attack the arguments, not the person making them.




(she said, well aware she was about to be hit by a large rubber mallet called "Stop That!") :p

[Hokulele]

No deal.
I don't gamble with the resources God gives me.

And to consider that God lied to me is deeply offensive.
I will not even let the thought enter my mind.

So the only thing to do is wait.

A hui ho
Dani' El


If you know you are right, how is it a gamble?

[Dani' El]

I currently live on Maui and know Peahi quite well. That is a beautiful part of the island.

I lived in a crazy hippie house perched on a cliff just above Jaws for a couple of years.
Off grid and with little water, it was pretty tough some times, but lots of free pineapple. :D

Later I moved to Volcano Village on the big Island and loved it there too.

I really miss living in the country with my big ole dog.
Living in Sodom stinks.

[Dani' El]

If you know you are right, how is it a gamble?

It's not.
I just don't make wagers as a matter of obedience.

[Foster Zygote]

No deal.
I don't gamble with the resources God gives me.
You just inquired as to your eligibility for the JREF million dollar challenge.

And to consider that God lied to me is deeply offensive.
I will not even let the thought enter my mind.
What if God had nothing to do with it? What if you are deluding yourself? Is that too offensive a thought to allow to enter your mind?

So the only thing to do is wait.
I'll be here on Sept. 30.

[Lucian]

Hmm, that seems a bit megalomaniacal a statement.

Did Lot even write prophecies?
I only remember him giving away his daughter so they could be raped and ending up banging them himself (I suppose that when you want a job done right...). I don't remember any prophecies...


I suspect that he means that Lot prefigured him--that he is the New (but not reincarnated) Lot--not that Lot actually prophesied his coming. I'm not saying that this interpretation is any less megalomaniacal or, you know, unlikely...

[Dani' El]

And this flight will be made in an airplane?

No.

I have no passport, ticket, or bags packed etc.

God says I'm going, so I'm going on His power.
Fiery chariot? ;)

[Dani' El]

You just inquired as to your eligibility for the JREF million dollar challenge.


What if God had nothing to do with it? What if you are deluding yourself? Is that too offensive a thought to allow to enter your mind?


I'll be here on Sept. 30.

That's Randi's gamble, not mine.

And I don't seek the money for myself.

[Dani' El]

I suspect that he means that Lot prefigured him--that he is the New (but not reincarnated) Lot--not that Lot actually prophesied his coming. I'm not saying that this interpretation is any less megalomaniacal or, you know, unlikely...

That's right.

But Lot did give warning to his sons in law and was ignored.

As a Jew, the gentile believers in Calif are like my sons in law, and for the most part, "I seem as one who jests".

[Dani' El]

I'm off.

See ya tomorrow.

Kol tuv
Dani' El

[Hokulele]

It's not.
I just don't make wagers as a matter of obedience.


Where are you told not to make wagers?

And as Foster Zygote noted, you seemed willing enough to enter into a similar agreement with the JREF Million Dollar Challenge.

[Hokulele]

That's Randi's gamble, not mine.


But it is still a wager, regardless of whose money is at stake.

And I don't seek the money for myself.


Neither do I. Your money would be going to the JREF, not to me.

[bokonon]

I have no direct revelation as to how it may happen, ...anyway, it will not be "the big one" or not it alone, but literal flaming sulfur from the skies that destroys SF and LA.
My guess? She'll make-believe-rapture all the creationists, and just as they're cresting naked above the cumulo-nimbus, getting all giddy and high-five-ing each other (oops, missed, heh heh, it was an accident, I SWEAR), she'll turn them all into flaming sulphur and let them come tumbling back to earth.

The scope of the destruction.
I'll just say this one thing, God is FURIOUS with this nation
And why wouldn't she be? We have more bible thumpers per capita than any other country on earth. About time to clean house, I'd say.

The results of this judgment.

it will give me great authority to preach the Gospel of Messiah Yeshua to the house of Israel which is job number one for me.
I've already had a fake ID made, saying that I'm Dani' El Ben Freeman, so I'll be able to ride your coattails for a tidy little nest egg too. Thanks!

That's all for today-
Be back tomorrow.
Okay, but with lead times being what they are, and my absolute insistence on producing a quality product, I've had to go ahead and get that TP order in the pipeline. Guess I'll just use some old file photos of Lot; I'll bet those atheists won't know the difference.

[Cainkane1]

What about Berkeley? We're at least as wicked as San Francisco. I hope we're not left out!
Atlanta ga has a large gay population in midtown so why aren't we going to get some fire and brimstone?

[BirdyBuddy]

So should I or should I not plan for barbecue that night?

[Stankeye]

Darn..I'm going to die!

Maybe I'll still be offshore by the 30th and have a nice view from the SB channel. I need to figure out how to save my wife though.

[GreNME]

Mmm, sodomy and gomorrahy.

Reminds me of a video that gets plenty of laffs from me:

shWL8sk6xx4

[vexed]

As I looked in horror at the terrible photos of partial birth abortions and the terrible techniques used by planned parenthood, Satan was again in my ear saying over and over, "See! See what I've been doing? See what my servants are willing to do for me!!
I love it!! I Love It! I LOVE IT!!!" - From his blog

Apparently god and satan 'speak' to him. I'm concluding that he is insane.

[Ladewig]

Dani'el, you may have been misled in this belief of yours. Is there a spiritually wise person that you can confide in? Please talk to someone you respect and please consider seeing a doctor.

[Quinn]

And to consider that God lied to me is deeply offensive.
I will not even let the thought enter my mind.

We aren't asking you to consider the possibility that God lied to you. We're asking you to consider the possibility that you're mistaken about God having spoken to you in the first place -- a very different and, presumably, not-offensive-to-God possibility. Is that something you'd be willing to wager on?

[SezMe]

The whole world will see me in Jerusalem on Yom Kippur, and I'll be very busy, (hamas and hezbollah are sure to give me a big welcoming party.) so I will not be able to check in here.
There's his out right there. He will not come back to take his lumps after the non-event. Takes all the fun out of it.

[oldhat]

Nah, his out, like every other cult leader and self-proclaimed messiah, is to say he received last minute instructions from God changing the date of the prophesy.

[Mister Agenda]

At least he's polite, in a 'cities will be destroyed, mwahaha' sort of way. Seems kind of chipper.

[Pure Argent]

Ok, I'm back, so you can settle up your bets.

Well, at least you have a sense of humor. More than can be said for Ethnikos and RevDisturba.

Please be patient as my time online is limited and I'm buried with questions.

I invite you to my blog for much more, esp my um... rather unusual testimonies.
Mock away, I'm quite used to it.

thejudgmentofsanfranciscoluke17.blogspot.com

Consider yourself mocked.

Heavily.

I'll do my best to answer some questions.

1) Although there may be a quake involved, it won't be a mere quake, or terror attack bombing etc, it will be literal flaming sulfur from the skies.
I have no direct revelation as to how it may happen, the Yellowstone Caldera, (an omnipotent God cannot limit it? or send it where He will? Silly!) or maybe the dozen or so dormant volcanoes in Calif?
God can simply open up new ones along the San Andreas...anyway, it will not be "the big one" or not it alone, but literal flaming sulfur from the skies that destroys SF and LA.

Well, this is definitely more strictly-defined than anything I was suspecting. Death by some sort of volcanic eruption, possibly combined with a massive earthquake. I can accept that.

2.) The scope of the destruction.
I'll just say this one thing, God is FURIOUS with this nation and Calif in particular. He would be justified in blowing the whole western US off the map and more, but I think it will be everything from SF to San Diego, maybe even Las Vegas and more. The "cities on the plain" as it were.

Why is he so angry with us? And why California specifically? I was under the impression that God was conservative. Isn't Massachusetts considered the most liberal state in the US?

3) The results of this judgment.
One is that many will be saved by it, as it is written,
"When your judgments are in the earth, then the inhabitants will learn righteousness"
And-
"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom".

So "Be afraid of me" and "When I'm beatin' on yah with mah stick, I expect ya tah scream 'Thank'ee, sir'!"
Yeah, right.

Another is that it will give me great authority to preach the Gospel of Messiah Yeshua to the house of Israel which is job number one for me.

Again. Exploiting the deaths of hundreds of people for personal gain. Isn't this somewhat... I don't know... sick and twisted and EVIL?

And another is simple justice.

Define justice, then define the transgressions committed by the people of California.

The wicked cities of Calif are long overdue for judgment.
Hollywood esp has been the mecca of Satanic evangelism for decades.
SF? nuff said.

So science fiction movies are inherently evil.

Yeeaaaahhhh. I buy that.

The breaking of America's back will unseat the balance of power in the world, and all the hotspots will erupt into war.
N and S Korea (Kim Jong is dying and would love to set off some kind of suicidal attack)
Pakistan- the taliban are seeking to get control of the nukes to attack India
Chavez is seeking to attack Columbia.
And esp Iran/Syria verses Israel
etc.

Prove any of these statements. I dare you.

"Nation shall rise against nation"

And from this time of great war, that Antichrist will come deceiveing with talk of peace.
(He is alive on the earth and waiting for his time.)

Is it me? I thought it was. Didn't we go over this already?
No wait. It's me and Elizabeth together.
She never sent me those pictures, either.

So the judgment of Calif will set the dominoes falling all the way to armegeddon.

As before:

You're insane. Goodbye.

That's the test of a prophet all right.

But I have 100% confidence.

So has every other insane false prophet in history.

Not long to wait.

Also, I am not Lot reincarnated, but Lot did foreshadow me in the Genesis account.

You're insane. And egotistical. And delusional.

Your proposition is outside the realm of reality for me.

If you can't even conceive of a world where you could possibly be wrong, then you are clinically insane. I'm being serious here. Without any mockery whatsoever, I am asking you to seek professional help.

I could ask you, "What will you do if you wake up to find the world is flat, and you are a golden tuna fish in a bowl?"

I have 100% confidence, so I will not even consider the possibiltity that God lied to me, etc.

I would have to deny reality to even consider it.
You'd have to witness what I have seen to understand, but please just wait and see.

You would have to ACCEPT reality to be able to consider it. You are actually, clinically insane. Bughouse. Bonkers. Flipped your lid. Lost your marbles. Lights are on but the people at home are insane. Crazy.

The whole world will see me in Jerusalem on Yom Kippur, and I'll be very busy, (hamas and hezbollah are sure to give me a big welcoming party.) so I will not be able to check in here.

Of course by then, it will be settled.
(btw, I've got a few more minutes left before my puter time runs out, so I'll be back tomorrow.)

Have you gotten this news to the other factions of the Jewish faith? Have you made an official statement about your prophecy? Anyone can claim to have made a prophecy after the fact. They have to already know by the time it happens.

No deal.
I don't gamble with the resources God gives me.

And to consider that God lied to me is deeply offensive.
I will not even let the thought enter my mind.

So the only thing to do is wait.

A hui ho
Dani' El

Again, not being able to consider the fact that you MIGHT be wrong is a sign of actual clinical insanity, even if the insanity is just a serious delusion rather than the evil rabbit from Donny Darko. But in your case, and after reading your blog, it seems that the rabbit is a pretty good example of what is happening to you. Seek help. Please.

It's not.
I just don't make wagers as a matter of obedience.

To what?

No.

I have no passport, ticket, or bags packed etc.

God says I'm going, so I'm going on His power.
Fiery chariot? ;)

Again, you need professional help.

That's Randi's gamble, not mine.

And I don't seek the money for myself.

Then what is it for?

That's right.

But Lot did give warning to his sons in law and was ignored.

As a Jew, the gentile believers in Calif are like my sons in law, and for the most part, "I seem as one who jests".

That's because no one can take a crazy person seriously.

Please, Dani' El. I am sincerely worried for you. You hear voices which you believe to be God and Satan. You are delusional, believing yourself to be the successor to a fictional character. You believe that God will destroy San Fransisco on a specific day, and you refuse to even consider the possibility that you are wrong.
Please. Seek help.

[Foster Zygote]

So should I or should I not plan for barbecue that night?

Just hold the grill up to the sky.

[Piscivore]

Aw, man- why did you have to make it so far away? I'm going to be hard pressed to care about this for an entire month so I can watch you be wrong.

[Myriad]

Also, I am not Lot reincarnated, but Lot did foreshadow me in the Genesis account.


Really? How about that.

If you have any virgin daughters, I hope you've brought them up to speed on their expected role in coming events.

Respectfully,
Myriad

[Pure Argent]

Dani' El, I just read your blog. In all truth, I am now frightened for you and for the people around you. You see Satan everywhere, you see his servants everywhere, you see hatred everywhere. You claim to be arrested "on lies", but never state what it is that you were accused of. Your first thought upon seeing the explosion was that you would be accused, as if the SFPD had been watching you under suspicion of terrorist activity. I can't help but be worried about what really will happen on the specified day.
Please, seek mental help.

[Ladewig]

You are actually, clinically insane. Bughouse. Bonkers. Flipped your lid. Lost your marbles. Lights are on but the people at home are insane. Crazy.

-snip-

Please, Dani' El. I am sincerely worried for you. You hear voices which you believe to be God and Satan. You are delusional, believing yourself to be the successor to a fictional character. You believe that God will destroy San Fransisco on a specific day, and you refuse to even consider the possibility that you are wrong.Please. Seek help.

I believe you when you say you are sincere in your concern for Dani'El. I think your sincerity might have come across a bit stronger if you hadn't mocked his mental condition before asking him to seek help. Poorly played, Pure Argent.

[Sunray Breaker]

NEW CONSPIRACY THEORY!!!
Religious extremists start the LA and SF fires to prove their own BS prophecy.

All this post tells me is that maybe he started the fire before he left. They did just say something about it being man made. Hmm....The plot thickens...

That's funny, because I'm sure people that we're completely doing what "god" told them to do, suffered the same horrible fate on 9/11 as everyone else...

Nature's Wrath is inescapable and innocence is an illusion.

Embrace doubt, it has saved more lives than faith...

Until god himself comes to me personally and gives me specific instructions and proves himself to exist (something an atheist can do that god can't) then MAYBE after extensive analysis I'll consider his opinion, but I refuse to fear that which "loves" me.

[slingblade]

Oh, man, that is a chilling thought, all the more so because it could indeed happen, or has happened.

Damned belief systems that prey upon people like this. I hate em.

[Dani' El]

Ok, I got a bit more time online.

Where to begin after wading thru so much ad hom stew? ;)

Here's some numerology that some may find interesting if they can put away the mockery.

(edit- I am not allowed to post links yet but this is on my blog under "signs that the judgment of SF is at the door")

I was born 3000 years after king David on June 4, 1960,
6-4-60 or 2 days before 6-6-60 as I am the one who reveals the name of the Antichrist.
(I won't give it here as I think it may break forum rules and he is not yet a public person.)

I was also born 12 years after the revival of the state of Israel in 1948.
And the 6 day war (with one days rest, sound familiar?) that liberated Jerusalem, fulfilling prophecy began on my 7th birthday in 1967.

I don't have time to go into it more here, but there is more on the blog.

More...

[Dani' El]

Dani' El, I just read your blog. In all truth, I am now frightened for you and for the people around you. You see Satan everywhere, you see his servants everywhere, you see hatred everywhere. You claim to be arrested "on lies", but never state what it is that you were accused of. Your first thought upon seeing the explosion was that you would be accused, as if the SFPD had been watching you under suspicion of terrorist activity. I can't help but be worried about what really will happen on the specified day.
Please, seek mental help.

Please take a bit more time to read.

I describe the events of my arrest in great detail at some point.

I bumped a post on my blog that gives all my testimonial posts in chronological order which should help you find your way around.

I've been beaten, kicked, spat on, arrested and much more by the very people I'm trying to save and all I've done is bless those who do it.
So any claims that I am dangerous are libel.

Anyway, from your perspective, faith of any kind is delusional, so I must cut you some slack for your reaction.

I've said this many times before elsewhere, if I read the same thing from someone else maybe 15 yrs ago, I would react the same way.

But God grants me patience, and I don't have long to wait.
It's been a very long 4 years tho and I'm looking forward to getting to Israel, although the challenges there are significant to say the least.

[Dani' El]

To all who asked.
I don't make wagers in obedience to my God given conscience.

I need to take a look at Randi's challenge, but from what I read in an article here in SF, I must not understand what it's about.

Anyway, that's not the main reason I am here.
I would hope that the money would become a freewill offering after the judgment to Voice of the Martyrs, Canada.

[Dani' El]

There's his out right there. He will not come back to take his lumps after the non-event. Takes all the fun out of it.

So now you're the prophet? ;)

[Dani' El]

Atlanta ga has a large gay population in midtown so why aren't we going to get some fire and brimstone?

By the end of the age, all of the world's major cities will be destroyed by war, tsunamis, an asteroid strike, quakes, and much more.

And the judgment of Calif will be a judgment on the USA as a whole.

It will set off anarchy.
All the rumors of Fema camps and troops training in American cities are true.

In the end, the USA will cease to exist as we know it, and the North American Union will be formed, one of the 10 kingdoms of Daniels prophecy with the Antichrist ruling the world from NYC/UN which is Babylon the Great.

This is why Mexico is in such a mad rush to clean up her act in the last months.
Canada, Mexico and the USA will become the North American Union in the next few years, but like I said, many in the US will resist with arms and it's not going to be pretty.

Not in GA or anywhere.

The whole world is going to descend into this trouble.
"The beginning of sorrows".

[Hokulele]

I don't make wagers in obedience to my God given conscience.


Where does your god say anything against making wagers?

Wasn't that the whole point of the book of Job?

[Dani' El]

More tomorrow.

Shalom,
Dani' El

[Ladewig]

I am the one who reveals the name of the Antichrist.
(I won't give it here as I think it may break forum rules and he is not yet a public person.)


Now I really want to know. Will you send me a private message telling me who it is?

Is it someone we would recognize (e.g. someone related to a public personage)?

. . . . . . . . . .

Please consider my previous advice and go get a check up from a qualified doctor. Everyone should see a doctor on a regular basis and get screened for various illnesses. Also consider talking to a spiritual advisor about your prophecies. It is very easy to be misled into believing messages come from God when they really don't.

. . . . . . . . . .

You know have enough posts that you can post web addresses.

[Dani' El]

Where does your god say anything against making wagers?

Wasn't that the whole point of the book of Job?

Good stewardship of money is preached in many places.

A hui ho!
Dani' El

[Hokulele]

Good stewardship of money is preached in many places.


If this is a guaranteed thing, how could you possibly be accused of poor stewardship of your money?

It would only be poor stewardship if there is chance you are wrong.

[SezMe]

So now you're the prophet? ;)
Dunno. But here's how to ascertain that. Come back here after Oct. 1 and prove me wrong.

[bokonon]

Good stewardship of money is preached in many places.

You've been given a talent. If you don't turn it into ten talents before the master returns, he might be miffed...

[Lonewulf]

Good stewardship of money is preached in many places.

A hui ho!
Dani' El

So good stewardship of money is good, yet betting a mortal's soul is perfectly fine.

Money matters more than people!

[Hokulele]

You've been given a talent. If you don't turn it into ten talents before the master returns, he might be miffed...


Well played.

[Elizabeth I]

I'll be here on Sept. 30.

I'm pretty sure you'll be here on October 1, too.

I know I plan to be.

[Ladewig]

Now I really want to know. Will you send me a private message telling me who it is?

Is it someone we would recognize (e.g. someone related to a public personage)?



Dani'El did send me a private message as I asked and named a 22-year-old Californian with a somewhat common name. Google searches produce an actor with the same name, but not the recent college grad that Dani'El named.

Dani'El, please do not publicly name this person. This person has done nothing to deserve the title of AntiChrist and you may end up in legal trouble if you falsely accuse this person and his brother.

I was wrong to ask you for a name. I want to re-emphasize the importance of seeing a doctor. Please get a check-up before the end of the month

[Thunder]

My name is Dani' El Ben Freeman.
Servant of the Living God of Israel.

Daniel Ben Freeman?

Your father's first name is Freeman?

[bookitty]

Ummm...you guys,
http://thejudgmentofsanfranciscoluke17.blogspot.com/2008/12/my-tangle-with-prince-charles.html

Someone needs a very caring therapist who can get him back on his meds. His entire blog is indescribably sad.

[Foolmewunz]

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[billw]

Daniel, did you know somebody wrote a song about you?

http://arts.ucsc.edu/Gdead/AGDL/estimate.html

[SezMe]

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Cheap way to bump your post count. :) :) :)

ETA: Where can I find a countdown so I have any hope at all of keeping up with you.

[boloboffin]

Deleted because I hadn't read to Ladewig's post above.

[bokonon]

Man, that's going to be one long plane ride of shame back in October.
The flaming chariot of shame.

[arthwollipot]

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:popcorn1

[arthwollipot]

Would this be a good time to post this (http://www.armageddononline.org/failed_armageddon.php)?

I know it's not strictly on-topic, since Dani' El is only predicting the destruction of two cities, not of the entire world, but it seems relevant to me.

[LostAngeles]

Ok, I'm back, so you can settle up your bets.

Please be patient as my time online is limited and I'm buried with questions.

I invite you to my blog for much more, esp my um... rather unusual testimonies.
Mock away, I'm quite used to it.

thejudgmentofsanfranciscoluke17.blogspot.com

I'll do my best to answer some questions.

1) Although there may be a quake involved, it won't be a mere quake, or terror attack bombing etc, it will be literal flaming sulfur from the skies.
I have no direct revelation as to how it may happen, the Yellowstone Caldera, (an omnipotent God cannot limit it? or send it where He will? Silly!) or maybe the dozen or so dormant volcanoes in Calif?
God can simply open up new ones along the San Andreas...anyway, it will not be "the big one" or not it alone, but literal flaming sulfur from the skies that destroys SF and LA.

2.) The scope of the destruction.
I'll just say this one thing, God is FURIOUS with this nation and Calif in particular. He would be justified in blowing the whole western US off the map and more, but I think it will be everything from SF to San Diego, maybe even Las Vegas and more. The "cities on the plain" as it were.

3) The results of this judgment.
One is that many will be saved by it, as it is written,
"When your judgments are in the earth, then the inhabitants will learn righteousness"
And-
"The fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom".

Another is that it will give me great authority to preach the Gospel of Messiah Yeshua to the house of Israel which is job number one for me.

And another is simple justice.
The wicked cities of Calif are long overdue for judgment.
Hollywood esp has been the mecca of Satanic evangelism for decades.
SF? nuff said.

The breaking of America's back will unseat the balance of power in the world, and all the hotspots will erupt into war.
N and S Korea (Kim Jong is dying and would love to set off some kind of suicidal attack)
Pakistan- the taliban are seeking to get control of the nukes to attack India
Chavez is seeking to attack Columbia.
And esp Iran/Syria verses Israel
etc.

"Nation shall rise against nation"

And from this time of great war, that Antichrist will come deceiveing with talk of peace.
(He is alive on the earth and waiting for his time.)

So the judgment of Calif will set the dominoes falling all the way to armegeddon.

That's all for today-
Be back tomorrow.

Kol tuv
Dani' El

I have to agree. God is pretty pissed at CA. He gives us great weather, a variety of industries to make us prosperous, a damn fine post-secondary public education system and what do we do?

We won't let consenting adults enter into legal contracts with those they love if they happen to have the same genitalia. We let businesses offer low wages, luring illegal immigrants and punish the lured more often than the lurers, letting the cycle continue. We allow our high schools, middle schools, and elementary schools to be ********** up. We run our budget into the ground.

We're a bunch of ******** ruining a good *********** thing.

I'd be pissed at us as well.

No deal.
I don't gamble with the resources God gives me.

And to consider that God lied to me is deeply offensive.
I will not even let the thought enter my mind.

So the only thing to do is wait.

A hui ho
Dani' El

Are you familiar with the concept of the demiurge?

[lionking]

Dani'el, let me introduce you to Australia's own Pastor Danny Nulliah:

http://www.smh.com.au/national/pastors-abortion-dream-inflames-bushfire-tragedy-20090210-832f.html

He blamed Victoria's devastating bushfires, where 170 died, on Abortion Law:

The Catch the Fire Ministries has tried to blame the bushfires disaster on laws decriminalising abortion in Victoria.

The Pentecostal church's leader, Pastor Danny Nalliah, claimed he had a dream about raging fires on October 21 last year and that he woke with "a flash from the Spirit of God: that His conditional protection has been removed from the nation of Australia, in particular Victoria, for approving the slaughter of innocent children in the womb".

He stopped well short of Armageddon though, so perhaps you would like to contact him and let him know not to hold back in future.

[Piscivore]

Dani'El did send me a private message as I asked and named a 22-year-old Californian with a somewhat common name. Google searches produce an actor with the same name, but not the recent college grad that Dani'El named.

Dani'El, please do not publicly name this person. This person has done nothing to deserve the title of AntiChrist and you may end up in legal trouble if you falsely accuse this person and his brother.

I was wrong to ask you for a name. I want to re-emphasize the importance of seeing a doctor. Please get a check-up before the end of the month

According to his blog, it's his nephew. Everything revolves around his family somehow.

[bokonon]

The man has issues.

[Pure Argent]

I believe you when you say you are sincere in your concern for Dani'El. I think your sincerity might have come across a bit stronger if you hadn't mocked his mental condition before asking him to seek help. Poorly played, Pure Argent.

Yeah, I went back and re-read my post. You're correct. I typed most of the mockery before I read his blog, but I should probably have gone back and removed it. My apologies, Dani' El. But I really am sincere when I say that I am worried about you.

Please take a bit more time to read.

I describe the events of my arrest in great detail at some point.

I bumped a post on my blog that gives all my testimonial posts in chronological order which should help you find your way around.

I've been beaten, kicked, spat on, arrested and much more by the very people I'm trying to save and all I've done is bless those who do it.
So any claims that I am dangerous are libel.

Anyway, from your perspective, faith of any kind is delusional, so I must cut you some slack for your reaction.

I've said this many times before elsewhere, if I read the same thing from someone else maybe 15 yrs ago, I would react the same way.

But God grants me patience, and I don't have long to wait.
It's been a very long 4 years tho and I'm looking forward to getting to Israel, although the challenges there are significant to say the least.

Claims that you are dangerous are not libel. These people - myself included - sincerely believe that you are a dangerous person, both to the people around you and to yourself. Please, go talk to someone, whether it be a family member, a doctor or a psychiatrist. Tell them everything that you believe is happening. They will help you.

[JimBenArm]

Dani! Glad to see you back again! Here I thought you would just post and run, but no, you actually came back! Yay!
So, you never did answer me. Are you related to Josh Freeman? You know he plays for Tampa Bay now, so he's a Buccaneer. That's a big word for Pirate, so I guess he's all evil now, so maybe not. I don't think God would let you be related to a pirate, would he, being such an important prophet and all.
So, I rescheduled my doctors appointment since I didn't want to have to wade through flaming debris to get there. Thanks for the heads-up, even though Kansas City wasn't listed on the cities to be destroyed. She was really confused by why I wanted to reschedule again, but that's okay.
Since God's going to be tossing around all this doom and gloom at the end of the month anyway, do you think you could put in a request for me? See, I'm still kinda miffed at Bremerton, Washington. It's just up the coast a bit from San Francisco, so it's not too much out of his way. I won't go into details, but trust me, they deserve God's wrath, after what they did to me! Yessir, they surely do!

Thanks in advance, buddy! See you on the other side!

Jim' Ben Arm

[ToddH]

Don't you guys see? Dani' El is Gozer the Traveler. He will come in one of the pre-chosen forms. During the rectification of the Vuldrini, the traveler came as a large and moving Torg! Then, during the third reconciliation of the last of the McKetrick supplicants, they chose a new form for him: that of a giant Slor! Many Shuvs and Zuuls knew what it was to be roasted in the depths of the Slor that day, I can tell you!

[MRC_Hans]

One more sick puppy. :nope:

Hans

[CriticalSock]

Dani, how exactly did god's message manifest itself in your head?

Because I've had, at various times throughout my life, the sound of celestial trumpets as if they were in the middle of my head, while I was alone in my room with no TV or any other device turned on. I've also had voices in my head saying various things (usually calling my name or telling me to go somewhere).

I can see how someone with a belief in god could easily think that my experiences were something divine, but it turns out that I've just got some glitches in my software. Can you consider how you'd prove this, one way or the other, to yourself with your experiences?

[Lisa Simpson]

Ummm...you guys,
http://thejudgmentofsanfranciscoluke17.blogspot.com/2008/12/my-tangle-with-prince-charles.html

Someone needs a very caring therapist who can get him back on his meds. His entire blog is indescribably sad.

Yeah. I was fairly amused by this thread until I read his blog. Now it's just incredibly sad.

[calebprime]

One more sick puppy. :nope:

Hans

Yeah, and what Lisa said.

[dafydd]

Yeah. I was fairly amused by this thread until I read his blog. Now it's just incredibly sad.

I read it too,very sad.He really does need help.

[bokonon]

I guess I'm glad I haven't read his blog.

[Agatha]

One of the saddest things on his blog is the number of comments enabling his delusions. (Caveat - I am not a psychiatrist nor do I play one on TV.)

Anyway, I fully expect to be here on September 30th. I have no doubt that LA and SF will still be there on that date too.

[Simon39759]

Reading one post of his blog (about the Prince Charles) and from the very limited info I have on psychology, he seems to me that Dani'El is suffering from paranoid schizophrenia (some people might correct me if I am wrong).

Please, Dani'El, try and get some help.
You are obviously not happy right now, please, get some help and try getting better. You will only be happier.

[ToddH]

That blog saddens me. :(

Dani' El, please seek some professional help.

[bokonon]

Maybe that would be a more productive wager.

Dan, if come October LA and SF are still grinding away under blue skies, would you be willing to talk to a psychiatrist?

For my part, if LA is consumed in a fiery apocalypse, I'm willing to be toast.

[Cainkane1]

On the day that I leave SF for Israel, God will destroy SF and LA with fire and brimstone from heaven.
That day is Yom Kippur, 2009.
Or Sept 28-29, 2009 some 4 weeks away.

[Cainkane1]

On the day that I leave SF for Israel, God will destroy SF and LA with fire and brimstone from heaven.
That day is Yom Kippur, 2009.
Or Sept 28-29, 2009 some 4 weeks away.
Those days came and went. Now what?

[Pure Argent]

Those days came and went. Now what?

Uhh... no they didn't.

It's September 3rd now. I know. My brother's birthday was yesterday.

[Simon39759]

Cainkane... Are you from the future?

And if so, did you bring any floating skateboard and can I borrow it?

[Hokulele]

Maybe that would be a more productive wager.

Dan, if come October LA and SF are still grinding away under blue skies, would you be willing to talk to a psychiatrist?


This is definitely a better wager.

[Lucian]

Uhh... no they didn't.

It's September 3rd now. I know. My brother's birthday was yesterday.

Phew. I thought I'd really overslept.

[oldhat]

What was Dani'El arrested for in SF? He seems to not like the police.

[Elizabeth I]

Would this be a good time to post this (http://www.armageddononline.org/failed_armageddon.php)?

I know it's not strictly on-topic, since Dani' El is only predicting the destruction of two cities, not of the entire world, but it seems relevant to me.

My very favorite headline of all time came from the Weekly World News, when it was still available at grocery check-outs, and went something like, "The Ten Safest Places to Be during the End of the World."

[Piscivore]

What was Dani'El arrested for in SF? He seems to not like the police.

According to his account, his neighbors, the local police, his mother, and various other entities conspired to frame him for biting a neighbor and causing a ruckus.

[Personal Grudge]

Please take a bit more time to read.

I describe the events of my arrest in great detail at some point.

I bumped a post on my blog that gives all my testimonial posts in chronological order which should help you find your way around.

I've been beaten, kicked, spat on, arrested and much more by the very people I'm trying to save and all I've done is bless those who do it.
So any claims that I am dangerous are libel.

Anyway, from your perspective, faith of any kind is delusional, so I must cut you some slack for your reaction.

I've said this many times before elsewhere, if I read the same thing from someone else maybe 15 yrs ago, I would react the same way.

But God grants me patience, and I don't have long to wait.
It's been a very long 4 years tho and I'm looking forward to getting to Israel, although the challenges there are significant to say the least.

Dani' El... regarding the claims that you may be dangerous (and your following denial)... I do have a question for you.

From reading your blog, along with the comments, you make the following comment:

"So when God gave command to Saul to kill that Amalakites, He was to be obeyed, and there was no justifiable reason to demand perfect knowledge of Him before obeying.
He knows all, we don't, and is to be trusted."

Therefore, my question is... if God tells you to kill the unbelievers or homosexuals around you, will you trust Him and begin the killing?

[supercorgi]

Why is he so angry with us? And why California specifically? I was under the impression that God was conservative. Isn't Massachusetts considered the most liberal state in the US?

Yeah why are we left out of all the fun? We were the first state to legalize gay marriage. We have Provincetown which is a hotbed of gey, and we have North Hampton which is P-town's equivalent for the lesbians. How come we don't get smote?

[Lisa Simpson]

California isn't nearly as liberal as many people think. Politically, California is a small version of the country as a whole. The coastal side (excepting Orange County, which is still conservative) is generally liberal, but the interior is generally conservative.

[Piscivore]

Yeah why are we left out of all the fun? We were the first state to legalize gay marriage. We have Provincetown which is a hotbed of gey, and we have North Hampton which is P-town's equivalent for the lesbians. How come we don't get smote?

He doesn't live there. His problem isn't with homosexuality, or wickedness, or any of that nonsense- that's just a convenient smokescreen to diguise from himself the fact he has trouble relating to and getting along with others, and to make that difficulty their fault, and not his.

Been thare, done that.

[Pure Argent]

Yeah why are we left out of all the fun? We were the first state to legalize gay marriage. We have Provincetown which is a hotbed of gey, and we have North Hampton which is P-town's equivalent for the lesbians. How come we don't get smote?

Hey, don't go asking for it. As I was born in Leominster, I'd rather that my hometown doesn't get nuked, even if I don't live there any more.

He doesn't live there. His problem isn't with homosexuality, or wickedness, or any of that nonsense- that's just a convenient smokescreen to diguise from himself the fact he has trouble relating to and getting along with others, and to make that difficulty their fault, and not his.

Been thare, done that.

A pretty accurate summary, but I think he's fooled himself the same way he's trying to fool us.

[Mister Agenda]

Schizophrenia is a brain disorder that can be controlled with drugs, characterized in part by disorganized thought, hallucinations (usually 'voices'), and is frequently accompanied by some degree of religous fixation. I don't think Dani can help it, and hope the survival of LA and SF will prompt him to take meds...schizophrenia is often a progressive disease, but antipsychotics can slow or stop the progress.

Eighty years ago many schizophrenics succumbed to total dementia, thankfully that is rare today.

[dudalb]

Meh. I'm an ex-Nuke. I am made of fire and brimstone.


Wow, you are a Balrog......

[Piscivore]

A pretty accurate summary, but I think he's fooled himself the same way he's trying to fool us.

Oh, absolutely. It's all about fooling one's self.

[Ralph]

Yeah why are we left out of all the fun? We were the first state to legalize gay marriage. We have Provincetown which is a hotbed of gey, and we have North Hampton which is P-town's equivalent for the lesbians. How come we don't get smote?

And don't forget our gun laws.....some of the toughest in the country.

Jesus LOVES guns.....and he absolutely HATES gun laws.....



My wife & I have a house rented in Truro next week.

We usually eat in P-town tho......

I hope we don't get smitten (smited-smoted?)...................

[Dani' El]

Ok, I'm back.

I don't have time to answer everyone so I'll just make a statement.

1. Thanks to all who show a misguided but genuine concern, but I am fine, and this will be proven shortly.
I've been talking with many, including many atheists who are baffled by my testimony.
I am lucid, coherent, and not rambling or abusive.
All these are not possible for paranoids under the circumstances that I endure, like the mockery witnessed here.
Many conclude therefore that I am the greatest poe of all time. ;)

John 10:20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?

All the prophets, including Jesus heard these same words.

The problem here is not mine, but your own faulty axioms.
You pressuppose that there is no God, or the rest.
Satan, heaven, hell, the bible is not God's word etc. so of course, you will conclude that I am a liar, or deluded, or worse.

What is interesting is that many of you were willing to at least accept the possibility that SF and LA will be judged, and to wait and see, but when you read my blog?
Well that was too much for you.

But fast forward to Yom Kippur in your minds.
When you see Calif in flames, your pressuppositions, the lies that Satan has filled your heads with that blind you, naturalism, materialism, evolution etc will go up in flames as well.

Then ask yourself.
If I am who I say I am, a prophet sent by God to expose the Antichrist, to go to Israel and be instrumental in bringing the Jews into the new covenant; would not Satan be determined to stop this with all his might?

He tried for 49 years and failed, all glory to God.

So take another look at my blog in this light.
I have not said anything outlandish there from this viewpoint.
I did not claim to sprout wings and fly to Jupiter.

Anyway, I have many very determined enemies who have searched every word I've written in the last few years, and they've found no contradictions, bad doctrine, or anything with which I can be accused.

The only thing that can be done at this point is to wait and see if what I say comes to pass.
Not long to wait.

I'll keep in touch to see if there are any serious questions, and I can be reached at my blog, otherwise, it seems the time has come to wait.

Thanks to all for your consideration, kol tuv.

Dani' El

[bokonon]

Thanks to all who show a misguided but genuine concern, but I am fine, and this will be proven shortly.
If it is instead proven shortly that you've been mistaken, will you seek qualified medical advice, or make excuses?

Being right on such an unlikely prediction will convince most of those who've mocked you and not been roasted by wrath.

What would being wrong convince you of?

[Pure Argent]

Ok, I'm back.

I don't have time to answer everyone so I'll just make a statement.

1. Thanks to all who show a misguided but genuine concern, but I am fine, and this will be proven shortly.

Okay. But if it doesn't, please, go see a professional psychiatrist. If you are, indeed, a prophet, when this does come to pass I will convert on the spot. Assuming that you can prove that it was an act of God, anyway. Your being spirited away to Jerusalem without any means of physical transportation would be proof enough if it did happen.

I've been talking with many, including many atheists who are baffled by my testimony.
I am lucid, coherent, and not rambling or abusive.
All these are not possible for paranoids under the circumstances that I endure, like the mockery witnessed here.
Many conclude therefore that I am the greatest poe of all time. ;)

On the contrary. It is entirely possible for someone suffering from delusion or schizophrenia or paranoia to appear entirely lucid and coherent. But when they start prophecying the destruction of California, that's when you start thinking, "Hey. This person might need help of some kind".

John 10:20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?

All the prophets, including Jesus heard these same words.

I don't get it. Are you accusing yourself of insanity?

The problem here is not mine, but your own faulty axioms.
You pressuppose that there is no God, or the rest.
Satan, heaven, hell, the bible is not God's word etc. so of course, you will conclude that I am a liar, or deluded, or worse.

We presuppose nothing. In fact, many of us are former Christians, Bible-thumpers like yourself. I myself am a former Catholic. If we presupposed anything, it was that God did exist. You are the one with the presuppositions, so yes, we are going to conclude that you are a liar, deluded, or worse. The "or worse" is what I'm going with, and I again urge you to seek medical help.

What is interesting is that many of you were willing to at least accept the possibility that SF and LA will be judged, and to wait and see, but when you read my blog?
Well that was too much for you.[/qutoe]

We are still willing to accept that you are a prophet IF WHAT YOU PREDICTED ACTUALLY COMES TO PASS. Until that time, however, I will make use of Occam's Razor. You are not a prophet. You are a sick man who is in need of serious help. Please, go see someone.

[quote]But fast forward to Yom Kippur in your minds.
When you see Calif in flames, your pressuppositions, the lies that Satan has filled your heads with that blind you, naturalism, materialism, evolution etc will go up in flames as well.

No.
You see, California being destroyed in the way you say it will be will not topple the theory of evolution or any other scientific theories. Evolution does not contradict the idea of God. Unless God himself came to me and said, "Hey, Pure_Argent. Evolution is a lie", I would not believe it to be false.
All the destruction of California will prove is that there is a god. It will not have any effect whatsoever on any scientific theories.

Then ask yourself.
If I am who I say I am, a prophet sent by God to expose the Antichrist, to go to Israel and be instrumental in bringing the Jews into the new covenant; would not Satan be determined to stop this with all his might?

He tried for 49 years and failed, all glory to God.

So take another look at my blog in this light.
I have not said anything outlandish there from this viewpoint.
I did not claim to sprout wings and fly to Jupiter.

From this viewpoint, no, you have said nothing strange. But this viewpoint is false. It is the product of whatever mental illness you are suffering.

Anyway, I have many very determined enemies who have searched every word I've written in the last few years, and they've found no contradictions, bad doctrine, or anything with which I can be accused.

But I assume they, too, pointed out that you are simply suffering from a mental illness, and you likewise ignored them. You shouldn't. We are concerned for your well-being.

The only thing that can be done at this point is to wait and see if what I say comes to pass.
Not long to wait.

I'll keep in touch to see if there are any serious questions, and I can be reached at my blog, otherwise, it seems the time has come to wait.

Thanks to all for your consideration, kol tuv.

Dani' El

Yes, that is the only thing that can be done. But if it doesn't happen, then what will you do?

[Foolmewunz]

<snip>

The only thing that can be done at this point is to wait and see if what I say comes to pass.
Not long to wait.

<snip>

Dani' El

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[Thunder]

Ok, I'm back.

I don't have time to answer everyone so I'll just make a statement.

1. Thanks to all who show a misguided but genuine concern, but I am fine, and this will be proven shortly.
I've been talking with many, including many atheists who are baffled by my testimony.
I am lucid, coherent, and not rambling or abusive.
All these are not possible for paranoids under the circumstances that I endure, like the mockery witnessed here.
Many conclude therefore that I am the greatest poe of all time. ;)

John 10:20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?

All the prophets, including Jesus heard these same words.

The problem here is not mine, but your own faulty axioms.
You pressuppose that there is no God, or the rest.
Satan, heaven, hell, the bible is not God's word etc. so of course, you will conclude that I am a liar, or deluded, or worse.

What is interesting is that many of you were willing to at least accept the possibility that SF and LA will be judged, and to wait and see, but when you read my blog?
Well that was too much for you.

But fast forward to Yom Kippur in your minds.
When you see Calif in flames, your pressuppositions, the lies that Satan has filled your heads with that blind you, naturalism, materialism, evolution etc will go up in flames as well.

Then ask yourself.
If I am who I say I am, a prophet sent by God to expose the Antichrist, to go to Israel and be instrumental in bringing the Jews into the new covenant; would not Satan be determined to stop this with all his might?

He tried for 49 years and failed, all glory to God.

So take another look at my blog in this light.
I have not said anything outlandish there from this viewpoint.
I did not claim to sprout wings and fly to Jupiter.

Anyway, I have many very determined enemies who have searched every word I've written in the last few years, and they've found no contradictions, bad doctrine, or anything with which I can be accused.

The only thing that can be done at this point is to wait and see if what I say comes to pass.
Not long to wait.

I'll keep in touch to see if there are any serious questions, and I can be reached at my blog, otherwise, it seems the time has come to wait.

Thanks to all for your consideration, kol tuv.

Dani' El

This is why I think Jews for Jesus are nuts.

[SezMe]

I'll keep in touch to see if there are any serious questions, and I can be reached at my blog, otherwise, it seems the time has come to wait.
I have some serious questions that should be easy to answer.


How did you learn of this site and forum?
What prompted you to join the forum and begin posting? Did you lurk for a while first?
What other sites do you like and visit often?
Do you participate in other site forums? If so, which ones?
What did you hope to accomplish by starting this thread?

Thanks in advance.

[Sabrina]

Ok, I'm back.

I don't have time to answer everyone so I'll just make a statement.

1. Thanks to all who show a misguided but genuine concern, but I am fine, and this will be proven shortly.
I've been talking with many, including many atheists who are baffled by my testimony.
I am lucid, coherent, and not rambling or abusive.
All these are not possible for paranoids under the circumstances that I endure, like the mockery witnessed here.
Many conclude therefore that I am the greatest poe of all time. ;)

John 10:20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?

All the prophets, including Jesus heard these same words.

The problem here is not mine, but your own faulty axioms.
You pressuppose that there is no God, or the rest.
Satan, heaven, hell, the bible is not God's word etc. so of course, you will conclude that I am a liar, or deluded, or worse.

What is interesting is that many of you were willing to at least accept the possibility that SF and LA will be judged, and to wait and see, but when you read my blog?
Well that was too much for you.

But fast forward to Yom Kippur in your minds.
When you see Calif in flames, your pressuppositions, the lies that Satan has filled your heads with that blind you, naturalism, materialism, evolution etc will go up in flames as well.

Then ask yourself.
If I am who I say I am, a prophet sent by God to expose the Antichrist, to go to Israel and be instrumental in bringing the Jews into the new covenant; would not Satan be determined to stop this with all his might?

He tried for 49 years and failed, all glory to God.

So take another look at my blog in this light.
I have not said anything outlandish there from this viewpoint.
I did not claim to sprout wings and fly to Jupiter.

Anyway, I have many very determined enemies who have searched every word I've written in the last few years, and they've found no contradictions, bad doctrine, or anything with which I can be accused.

The only thing that can be done at this point is to wait and see if what I say comes to pass.
Not long to wait.

I'll keep in touch to see if there are any serious questions, and I can be reached at my blog, otherwise, it seems the time has come to wait.

Thanks to all for your consideration, kol tuv.

Dani' El

I actually believe in God, you know.

Kindly cease your "presuppositions" about the idea that everyone on this forum is an atheist, as that is not the case. I simply know better than to argue for the existence of God logically on this forum, as there is no evidence beyond my own personal experiences, and even I recognize that is not sufficient evidence for anyone other than myself. But apparently you believe in a vengeful, murdering God, whereas I believe in a benevolent, loving God who simply does not interfere directly in the lives of the beings He/She/It created. It's called free will; as I recall, that's in the Bible (even though I don't view that as the word of God, you apparently do) as well. But that's not my main point anyway.

I've refrained from posting until now, but speaking from a semi-trained standpoint (I have a degree in psychology) you need help. Please, please seek the advice of a mental health professional soon; from what I can tell, you would have nothing to lose by doing so, but your refusal so far to do so is telling, to say the least. You are showing signs of paranoid schizophrenia with associated delusions, and you need medical attention. I won't say anything more at this point other than I truly hope you listen and heed my advice to seek help. I am truly concerned for your well being, Daniel; you are not well. Please, seek help soon. Thank you.

[quarky]

For an uninsured American, this notion of seeking medical help is the sort of thing that can drive one crazy. This thread, if nothing else, makes a good case for health care reform.

OTOH, its sort of fun to have some weird religious nut-cases among us.
I'd be interested if the prophet has guns, and what types.
And if he takes drugs, and what kinds.

I sense some meglamaniacal influences; not all that unusual. We all like to feel important.

[Jonnyclueless]

Ok, I'm back.

I don't have time to answer everyone so I'll just make a statement.

1. Thanks to all who show a misguided but genuine concern, but I am fine, and this will be proven shortly.
I've been talking with many, including many atheists who are baffled by my testimony.
I am lucid, coherent, and not rambling or abusive.
All these are not possible for paranoids under the circumstances that I endure, like the mockery witnessed here.
Many conclude therefore that I am the greatest poe of all time. ;)

John 10:20 And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?

All the prophets, including Jesus heard these same words.

The problem here is not mine, but your own faulty axioms.
You pressuppose that there is no God, or the rest.
Satan, heaven, hell, the bible is not God's word etc. so of course, you will conclude that I am a liar, or deluded, or worse.

What is interesting is that many of you were willing to at least accept the possibility that SF and LA will be judged, and to wait and see, but when you read my blog?
Well that was too much for you.

But fast forward to Yom Kippur in your minds.
When you see Calif in flames, your pressuppositions, the lies that Satan has filled your heads with that blind you, naturalism, materialism, evolution etc will go up in flames as well.

Then ask yourself.
If I am who I say I am, a prophet sent by God to expose the Antichrist, to go to Israel and be instrumental in bringing the Jews into the new covenant; would not Satan be determined to stop this with all his might?

He tried for 49 years and failed, all glory to God.

So take another look at my blog in this light.
I have not said anything outlandish there from this viewpoint.
I did not claim to sprout wings and fly to Jupiter.

Anyway, I have many very determined enemies who have searched every word I've written in the last few years, and they've found no contradictions, bad doctrine, or anything with which I can be accused.

The only thing that can be done at this point is to wait and see if what I say comes to pass.
Not long to wait.

I'll keep in touch to see if there are any serious questions, and I can be reached at my blog, otherwise, it seems the time has come to wait.

Thanks to all for your consideration, kol tuv.

Dani' El

So you understand why we laugh so hard at you right? Someone please try to remember to bump this thread on the 28th so I can get enough good laugh.

Oh and how convenient that he just doesn't have time to answer questions....

[Safe-Keeper]

I don't know if this qualifies me to win Randi's prize moneyMhm, if a major calamity was about to destroy two major US cities that'd be my first thought, too - let's tell a bunch of sceptics and see how much money I can win!

[Paul]

While it is quite obvious that all is not exactly as Dani claims and the more fanciful elements are cause for concern, it also seems that more mundane events may be entirely imagined.

I was curious about the Prince Charles rebuking episode from his blog so I googled and could find no mention at all. The LA Times report (http://articles.latimes.com/2005/nov/09/local/me-royals9)on Charles' visit to the Empress Hotel mentions "a couple hundred curious onlookers", "Frank Chu, a San Francisco character who frequently shows up at public gatherings holding up a sign", and "a former resident of the Empress Hotel, from its days as a flophouse". Curiously there is no mention of a man haranguing Charles' limo "for about 5 or 6 minutes" with insults and accusations; given all the press attention you would think it would warrant at least a passing mention, especially as he refers to Diana a lot.




On a slightly lighter note, his blog also has a daily countdown, in large red type no less.

[tsig]

The flaming chariot of shame.

Do you have to wear an asbestos suit to ride in a flaming chariot?

[Jonnyclueless]

So everyone in those areas, remember to wear a hat.

[Dani' El]

Short on time today, but a few quick notes-

First, my main goal here is not concerned with Randi's challenge, but the salvation of your souls.
Even concerning the challenge, I do not seek the money for myself, but for a ministry that helps the saints worldwide in many ways.

Concerning the challenge.
I scanned it quickly yesterday and am a bit perplexed.

The challenge says it seeks proof of the supernatural, yet the rules exclude anything of a religious nature.
It seems that Randi wants to make anyone who answers jump thru hoops to his satisfaction, but just as Jesus refused to do so at Herod's request, I do the same.

Still, the proof of God's supernatural control of His creation will be made this Yom Kippur, and if Randi is honest enough, I would hope that he would give the money to Voice of the Martyrs, Canada, as an offering that day.

Anyway, I should have some more time to answer questions later.

Oh and I heard about Randi from an atheist I know, but I heard about the challenge in a SF paper that did a feature on Randi this month.

Oh, and I know that everyone here is not an atheist, but due to the nature of the forum, and Randi's own beliefs, I assume most are.

Shalom,
Dani' El

[Monster Machine]

(btw, I've got a few more minutes left before my puter time runs out, so I'll be back tomorrow.)


Please be patient as my time online is limited and I'm buried with questions.


Short on time today, but a few quick notes-
<snip>
Anyway, I should have some more time to answer questions later.



Don't these statements ring a little odd to people?


Dani'El - why is your computer time limited?

Monster

[Lisa Simpson]

According to his blog, he got rid of his own computer and now uses public computers (like libraries, etc.).

[Personal Grudge]

Short on time today, but a few quick notes-

First, my main goal here is not concerned with Randi's challenge, but the salvation of your souls.
Even concerning the challenge, I do not seek the money for myself, but for a ministry that helps the saints worldwide in many ways.

Concerning the challenge.
I scanned it quickly yesterday and am a bit perplexed.

The challenge says it seeks proof of the supernatural, yet the rules exclude anything of a religious nature.
It seems that Randi wants to make anyone who answers jump thru hoops to his satisfaction, but just as Jesus refused to do so at Herod's request, I do the same.

Still, the proof of God's supernatural control of His creation will be made this Yom Kippur, and if Randi is honest enough, I would hope that he would give the money to Voice of the Martyrs, Canada, as an offering that day.

Anyway, I should have some more time to answer questions later.

Oh and I heard about Randi from an atheist I know, but I heard about the challenge in a SF paper that did a feature on Randi this month.

Oh, and I know that everyone here is not an atheist, but due to the nature of the forum, and Randi's own beliefs, I assume most are.

Shalom,
Dani' El

Dani' El, thank you for your concern about my soul. I do not personally believe that I have a soul, but I know that you believe that I do.

Either way, my question for you is this: Do you understand why some people question your honesty or sanity regarding this topic?

And I don't mean this as a debate about the existence of God. For the purposes of this question, let's go with the assumption that God does exist.

However, surely you yourself believe that others are being dishonest who have claimed to talk with God and receive prophecy. Let's take the head of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints... he is known as the Prophet, and he is trusted by his followers to reveal prophecy. Now, unless he has received the same prophecy that you have and just refused to share it... then, I assume you believe him to be a false prophet.

Either way, surely you realize the well-founded skepticism that we have for anyone who steps forward with a prophecy from God. And from your blog and your comments, you seem to be fine with waiting until the end of September to be proven correct.

And if you are proven correct at the end of this month, then I'm sure you'll be making major news (and many of us will be changing our tunes). However, how can you expect us to believe your prophecy prior to the proof? If we all followed the prophecies of every supposed holy man that has ever stepped forward, we would have found ourselves deluded more times than I can count.

[bookitty]

Short on time today, but a few quick notes-

First, my main goal here is not concerned with Randi's challenge, but the salvation of your souls.
Even concerning the challenge, I do not seek the money for myself, but for a ministry that helps the saints worldwide in many ways.

Concerning the challenge.
I scanned it quickly yesterday and am a bit perplexed.

The challenge says it seeks proof of the supernatural, yet the rules exclude anything of a religious nature.
It seems that Randi wants to make anyone who answers jump thru hoops to his satisfaction, but just as Jesus refused to do so at Herod's request, I do the same.

Still, the proof of God's supernatural control of His creation will be made this Yom Kippur, and if Randi is honest enough, I would hope that he would give the money to Voice of the Martyrs, Canada, as an offering that day.

Anyway, I should have some more time to answer questions later.

Oh and I heard about Randi from an atheist I know, but I heard about the challenge in a SF paper that did a feature on Randi this month.

Oh, and I know that everyone here is not an atheist, but due to the nature of the forum, and Randi's own beliefs, I assume most are.

Shalom,
Dani' El

Dani' El, Your blog brought me to tears. You've certainly been a lot. Somewhere along the way, it was too much. Something inside you cracked. You found God, and he supports you. That is all well and good.

Perhaps God is helping you even now. You are here to help us, to save our souls. That is a kind goal. There is kindness in you, even with all the fire and brimstone.

In the name of this kindness, I echo the request of so many. Make a wager with us. If what you say does come true, I will gladly and with an honest heart walk the streets of Los Angeles telling everyone about the glory of God. I will tell them your name and that you are the prophet come to lead us.

If that day passes with no sign, will you accept that God wants to help you? That he sent you here to find help? And will you please let us (or anyone else) get you that help? Please say yes.

Go in peace.

[Paul]

It seems that Randi wants to make anyone who answers jump thru hoops to his satisfaction, but just as Jesus refused to do so at Herod's request, I do the same.Is this a new type of excuse?

I won't take the challenge because they'll ask me to prove my claim

[Jonnyclueless]

Short on time today, but a few quick notes-

First, my main goal here is not concerned with Randi's challenge, but the salvation of your souls.
Even concerning the challenge, I do not seek the money for myself, but for a ministry that helps the saints worldwide in many ways.

Concerning the challenge.
I scanned it quickly yesterday and am a bit perplexed.

The challenge says it seeks proof of the supernatural, yet the rules exclude anything of a religious nature.
It seems that Randi wants to make anyone who answers jump thru hoops to his satisfaction, but just as Jesus refused to do so at Herod's request, I do the same.

Still, the proof of God's supernatural control of His creation will be made this Yom Kippur, and if Randi is honest enough, I would hope that he would give the money to Voice of the Martyrs, Canada, as an offering that day.

Anyway, I should have some more time to answer questions later.

Oh and I heard about Randi from an atheist I know, but I heard about the challenge in a SF paper that did a feature on Randi this month.

Oh, and I know that everyone here is not an atheist, but due to the nature of the forum, and Randi's own beliefs, I assume most are.

Shalom,
Dani' El

It has nothing to do with money. If you are honest in your desire to "save our souls" then you will enter the challenge. The result will not simply be you getting money, it will be that you have proven something extrordinary and will lead millions and millions of people to believe you and become saved. You do want to save people don't you Dani? Or were you just lying. I you are not lying, then you will sign up for the challenge and save lives.

The challenge would not be about religion, it would be about your ability to know such things. The source does not matter. Most people who take the challenge claim their powers or gift comes from a religious or supernatural being.

your gift is this ability to make a prediction. If you can actually do so, then you will have provided some evidence for your god.

You mention this Jesus, but you offer no proof that such a person actually existed. So we cannot accept your argument about him until you can first demonstrate there was such a person named Jesus. You also have failed to provide us with any evidence of this soul you make a claim of.

You also speak of a god. But there are about 10,000 gods. Which one are you referring to and why that particular god?

And why would anyone want to worship a god that goes around murdering innocent people? Sounds more like a satanic cult to me. Do you like that the entity you praise goes around killing people in torturing them (because surely fire will lead to people being badly burned). Your god will be killing and harming millions of innocent babies in the process. And you take joy in the actions of this god?

It sounds to me like you are a dangerous and very disturbed person who takes joy in the harm coming to others. You want to warn people of this bad thing to come, but seem to have no problem in the source of where it is coming from.

Not to mention you still have not offered a single piece of proof for anything.

*** So Dani boy. Not to worry. My god created your god, and when I told my god about what your god is doing, he made your god cancel the plans to kill millions of innocent babies. Instead he is going to rain fire and brimstone on Voice of the Martyrs, Canada.

So you heard it here dani. Fire and brimstone will come raining down on your group. I am telling you this because I want to save your soul. You need to stop worshiping your false god and come accept mine.

Shalong.

[billw]

So everyone in those areas, remember to wear a hat.

Aluminum foil?

I'm also not clear if I'm in the affected area or not - is it just the city of LA, or the county?

[Dani' El]

Dani' El, thank you for your concern about my soul. I do not personally believe that I have a soul, but I know that you believe that I do.

Either way, my question for you is this: Do you understand why some people question your honesty or sanity regarding this topic?

And I don't mean this as a debate about the existence of God. For the purposes of this question, let's go with the assumption that God does exist.

However, surely you yourself believe that others are being dishonest who have claimed to talk with God and receive prophecy. Let's take the head of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints... he is known as the Prophet, and he is trusted by his followers to reveal prophecy. Now, unless he has received the same prophecy that you have and just refused to share it... then, I assume you believe him to be a false prophet.

Either way, surely you realize the well-founded skepticism that we have for anyone who steps forward with a prophecy from God. And from your blog and your comments, you seem to be fine with waiting until the end of September to be proven correct.

And if you are proven correct at the end of this month, then I'm sure you'll be making major news (and many of us will be changing our tunes). However, how can you expect us to believe your prophecy prior to the proof? If we all followed the prophecies of every supposed holy man that has ever stepped forward, we would have found ourselves deluded more times than I can count.

No.
All I ask of anyone is to wait and see, unless of course you live in Calif.

I also expect to be tested and proven, no actually, I demand it.
Very few have simply accepted what I say without doing so, but I always rebuke them.
The bible warns loudly of the false prophets of the last days, so I would expect all to be very, very careful of anyone claiming the office of prophet.

Anyway, I pray that this judgment will open your eyes and lead you to faith in Messiah Yeshua.

Shalom,
Dani' El

[Lisa Simpson]

Aluminum foil?

I'm also not clear if I'm in the affected area or not - is it just the city of LA, or the county?

He says it will be almost all of CA, so I'm not safe in Orange County and neither are you.

I'll just say this one thing, God is FURIOUS with this nation and Calif in particular. He would be justified in blowing the whole western US off the map and more, but I think it will be everything from SF to San Diego, maybe even Las Vegas and more. The "cities on the plain" as it were.

[Dani' El]

Aluminum foil?

I'm also not clear if I'm in the affected area or not - is it just the city of LA, or the county?

You are in the area.
I expect it to be very large in scope, everything from San Diego to SF, and maybe even Las Vegas.

Call on the name of the Lord, friend.
Even as it is upon you, call on His name like the thief on the cross.

Praying for you.

[oldhat]

Will Oakland be spared or will there be a spillover effect?

How far south down the pennisula will the destruction go? Am I safe in South City? Colma? Daly City?

Are we talking highly precise fire and brimstone or will it be a blunt instrument, like a nuclear bomb?

Edit: You answered my question.

Why are people in San Jose and Bakersfield being punished for the sins of SF and LA?

[Dani' El]

It has nothing to do with money. If you are honest in your desire to "save our souls" then you will enter the challenge. The result will not simply be you getting money, it will be that you have proven something extrordinary and will lead millions and millions of people to believe you and become saved. You do want to save people don't you Dani? Or were you just lying. I you are not lying, then you will sign up for the challenge and save lives.

The challenge would not be about religion, it would be about your ability to know such things. The source does not matter. Most people who take the challenge claim their powers or gift comes from a religious or supernatural being.

your gift is this ability to make a prediction. If you can actually do so, then you will have provided some evidence for your god.

You mention this Jesus, but you offer no proof that such a person actually existed. So we cannot accept your argument about him until you can first demonstrate there was such a person named Jesus. You also have failed to provide us with any evidence of this soul you make a claim of.

You also speak of a god. But there are about 10,000 gods. Which one are you referring to and why that particular god?

And why would anyone want to worship a god that goes around murdering innocent people? Sounds more like a satanic cult to me. Do you like that the entity you praise goes around killing people in torturing them (because surely fire will lead to people being badly burned). Your god will be killing and harming millions of innocent babies in the process. And you take joy in the actions of this god?

It sounds to me like you are a dangerous and very disturbed person who takes joy in the harm coming to others. You want to warn people of this bad thing to come, but seem to have no problem in the source of where it is coming from.

Not to mention you still have not offered a single piece of proof for anything.

*** So Dani boy. Not to worry. My god created your god, and when I told my god about what your god is doing, he made your god cancel the plans to kill millions of innocent babies. Instead he is going to rain fire and brimstone on Voice of the Martyrs, Canada.

So you heard it here dani. Fire and brimstone will come raining down on your group. I am telling you this because I want to save your soul. You need to stop worshiping your false god and come accept mine.

Shalong.

Gasp! NO! Not sarcasm! :p

The rule for no religious claims is Randi's.
I have written an email to the mod's.
It's up to them if they respond now.

[Jonnyclueless]

Gasp! NO! Not sarcasm! :p

The rule for no religious claims is Randi's.
I have written an email to the mod's.
It's up to them if they respond now.

Why would you think that's sarcasm? Was your post sarcasm when you made the claim about your fire and brimstone? If not, why would you assume mine is?

This is NOT an issue of a religious claim. This is an issue about you having a magical ability to know that something bad i going to happen in the future. The fact that you claim it's from a god of your choice is not part of the challenge.

Now why didn't you address any of my post?

[Dani' El]

Is this a new type of excuse?

I won't take the challenge because they'll ask me to prove my claim

I will prove my claim by what God alone has approved-

..by His own witness, the dest of SF and LA.
I present this alone as my claim.
It's up to Randi to accept it or not.

[Jonnyclueless]

You are in the area.
I expect it to be very large in scope, everything from San Diego to SF, and maybe even Las Vegas.

Call on the name of the Lord, friend.
Even as it is upon you, call on His name like the thief on the cross.

Praying for you.

Which lord and why that one? Do you mean Odin? Or Thor? Krishna? Zeus? Allah? Which lord and why?

I will prove my claim by what God alone has approved-

..by His own witness, the dest of SF and LA.
I present this alone as my claim.
It's up to Randi to accept it or not.

So in other words you have no proof. And how will you respond if this does not happen? Will you come back here and apologize? Will you think twice about your magical lord? Or will you just move on to another prediction you assume to be true yet can provide no evidence to support?

[Dani' El]

Why would you think that's sarcasm? Was your post sarcasm when you made the claim about your fire and brimstone? If not, why would you assume mine is?

This is NOT an issue of a religious claim. This is an issue about you having a magical ability to know that something bad i going to happen in the future. The fact that you claim it's from a god of your choice is not part of the challenge.

Now why didn't you address any of my post?

C'mon,
Read your last 3 sentences there.

Not sarcasm?
I could give you a more detailed answer to the serious questions you posed if I had the time.
I'm spread pretty thin right now, but much of what you asked is answered on my blog.

[Dani' El]

Which lord and why that one? Do you mean Odin? Or Thor? Krishna? Zeus? Allah? Which lord and why?

The One who made the prophecy 2000 years ago in Luke 17 of the judgment of Calif.
Messiah Yeshua ben David.
The Son of God.

[Dani' El]

I actually believe in God, you know.

Kindly cease your "presuppositions" about the idea that everyone on this forum is an atheist, as that is not the case. I simply know better than to argue for the existence of God logically on this forum, as there is no evidence beyond my own personal experiences, and even I recognize that is not sufficient evidence for anyone other than myself. But apparently you believe in a vengeful, murdering God, whereas I believe in a benevolent, loving God who simply does not interfere directly in the lives of the beings He/She/It created. It's called free will; as I recall, that's in the Bible (even though I don't view that as the word of God, you apparently do) as well. But that's not my main point anyway.

I've refrained from posting until now, but speaking from a semi-trained standpoint (I have a degree in psychology) you need help. Please, please seek the advice of a mental health professional soon; from what I can tell, you would have nothing to lose by doing so, but your refusal so far to do so is telling, to say the least. You are showing signs of paranoid schizophrenia with associated delusions, and you need medical attention. I won't say anything more at this point other than I truly hope you listen and heed my advice to seek help. I am truly concerned for your well being, Daniel; you are not well. Please, seek help soon. Thank you.

Mal 2:7 Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?

God is love.
But He also loves justice, and will not aquit the wicked.

You have fashioned an idol to suit yourself, (breaking the commandment) an idol that winks at wickedness.
A false god that does not judge sin.

Do you know the difference between murder, and the execution of a murderer?

[Dani' El]

More tomorrow.'

Kol tuv.

Dani

[Jonnyclueless]

The One who made the prophecy 2000 years ago in Luke 17 of the judgment of Calif.
Messiah Yeshua ben David.
The Son of God.


You ignored the question. I asked you why the particular god you chose.

Luke 17 says nothing about California, so you have already failed right there. not to mention that no biblical prophecy has ever come true.

[Lisa Simpson]

Mal 2:7 Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?

God is love.
But He also loves justice, and will not aquit the wicked.

You have fashioned an idol to suit yourself, (breaking the commandment) an idol that winks at wickedness.
A false god that does not judge sin.

Do you know the difference between murder, and the execution of a murderer?

Wait a minute...in your mind I'm wicked solely because I live in California? And your God is going to kill me and my children solely because we live here?

[Jonnyclueless]

C'mon,
Read your last 3 sentences there.

Not sarcasm?
I could give you a more detailed answer to the serious questions you posed if I had the time.
I'm spread pretty thin right now, but much of what you asked is answered on my blog.

Wait, how on Earth can you say such nonsense? Did you read your posts? Your claims of fire and brimstone? And yet MY post is sarcasm?

You just claimed to speak for an all powerful all knowing god. So did I. I did exactly what you did. Yet when you do the same thign you say is sarcasm, you don't think it's sarcasm.

You're not spread thin at all. You have plenty of time to post your god's claims, but no time to address other gods claims? How do you validate your god over mine? Why is your claim rational and mine not?

If you think my claim is irrational, then you have to acknowledge yours is because they are identical claims.

[paximperium]

According to his blog, he got rid of his own computer and now uses public computers (like libraries, etc.).
Strange. All Libraries and Public computers are monitored by the Freemasonic Reptoids...Starbucks Wi-Fi is the exception, they're just unsecured.

[Pure Argent]

The One who made the prophecy 2000 years ago in Luke 17 of the judgment of Calif.
Messiah Yeshua ben David.
The Son of God.

It wasn't a prophecy. It was a story he was presenting as historical fact.
And he had a last and middle name?

[Pure Argent]

Mal 2:7 Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?

God is love.
But He also loves justice, and will not aquit the wicked.

You have fashioned an idol to suit yourself, (breaking the commandment) an idol that winks at wickedness.
A false god that does not judge sin.

Do you know the difference between murder, and the execution of a murderer?

You do realize that this has absolutely nothing to do with what she said, right?

[Gord_in_Toronto]

You do realize that this has absolutely nothing to do with what she said, right?

I would guess, only guess mind you, that the answer to that question is, "No". :scared:

[Sabrina]

Mal 2:7 Ye have wearied the LORD with your words. Yet ye say, Wherein have we wearied him? When ye say, Every one that doeth evil is good in the sight of the LORD, and he delighteth in them; or, Where is the God of judgment?

God is love.
But He also loves justice, and will not aquit the wicked.

You have fashioned an idol to suit yourself, (breaking the commandment) an idol that winks at wickedness.
A false god that does not judge sin.

Do you know the difference between murder, and the execution of a murderer?

Actually no, I haven't fashioned an idol to suit myself. God is all things to all people. For the record, I am a Unitarian Universalist, and my personal spiritual journey has led me to believe in God, but I also recognize the right of others to their own spiritual journeys, whether that leads them to believing in God, Zeus, Odin, Buddha, Allah, Yahweh, Krishna, Goddess, or even no God at all. My best friend is a Pagan; I regularly deal quite pleasantly with atheists in my church. It is possible to have differing beliefs and still get along, you know. And when I say I believe in a benevolent and loving God, how did you get "does not judge sin" out of that?

I've spent a lot of time observing human behavior; I base my beliefs partially on how I have observed people act when they have done something they know to be wrong. I have made peace with my beliefs, and your proselytizing will not change my mind on this score. And yes, I do know the difference between murder and the execution of a murderer; what's your point? That the people of California in general are murderers? I'd have to disagree with you there; the majority of the population of California are good people simply trying to live their lives, many of whom believe strongly in God and His love. What exactly, according to you, did they do to bring "God's wrath" down upon them anyway?

I reiterate my earlier point; please, seek help. I am growing truly concerned for you, and if I could, I would report your whereabouts to the nearest mental health facility in order to get you said help. You are sick, Daniel; you need help. Please seek it.

[MIKILLINI]

Your proposition is outside the realm of reality for me.

I could ask you, "What will you do if you wake up to find the world is flat, and you are a golden tuna fish in a bowl?"

I have 100% confidence, so I will not even consider the possibiltity that God lied to me, etc.

I would have to deny reality to even consider it.
You'd have to witness what I have seen to understand, but please just wait and see.

The whole world will see me in Jerusalem on Yom Kippur, and I'll be very busy, (hamas and hezbollah are sure to give me a big welcoming party.) so I will not be able to check in here.

Of course by then, it will be settled.
(btw, I've got a few more minutes left before my puter time runs out, so I'll be back tomorrow.)

Well Daniel, you may quote the bible, but I am 100% certain that the bible god isn't the one speaking to you. You need to search inward and locate the chicken little hiding within yourself.

[Kurse]

"If religous men gain access to nuclear weapons, there will be war on the horizon.."
I heard a teacher of mine say that. He is a very intelligent man, with many thoughts and opinions, and wise enough to admit when he is ignorant.

I say this because many wars were over religon.

Religion was the dominant ideology behind many conflicts of the Middle Ages. Muslims were in conflict with Zoroastrians during the Islamic conquest of Persia; Christians were in conflict with Muslims during the Byzantine-Arab Wars, Crusades, Spanish Reconquista and Ottoman wars in Europe; Christians were in conflict with Jews during the Crusades, Reconquista and Inquisition; Shamans were in conflict with Buddhists, Taoists, Muslims and Christians during the Mongol invasions; and Muslims were in conflict with Hindus during Muslim conquest in the Indian subcontinent.
^^----wiki for religon----^^
Granted some were over land, conquest, and resources. But weren't the religous wars over the same thing?

This whole arguement just reminds me of this. Jehova Witnesses are able to interpet it's words and manipulate them for any situation and possible even include themselves if they wished to.

The Watch Tower Society's New World Translation of the Bible has been criticized for being of low quality, and the qualifications of its anonymous translators have been questioned. Theologists have also criticized the translators' insertion of the name Jehovah 237 times in the New Testament in places where the term is not used in the extant Greek manuscripts. Various biblical scholars have noted that the translation of certain texts may be biased in favor of certain Witness practices and doctrines. The translation has also been criticized for lacking aesthetic qualities and favoring literalist interpretation over the poetic qualities of original texts.
^^----wiki for Jehova Witnesses----^^

I admit I'm ignorant about the bible to an extent. I do not read it as much as I should.
So tell me, Dani' El, where does JREF fit into the prophecy? Where do we fit into this equation in general?

I'm sure any intelligent prophet could put any of this into information I can understand, right?

[MIKILLINI]

Ok, I got a bit more time online.

Where to begin after wading thru so much ad hom stew? ;)

Here's some numerology that some may find interesting if they can put away the mockery.

(edit- I am not allowed to post links yet but this is on my blog under "signs that the judgment of SF is at the door")

I was born 3000 years after king David on June 4, 1960,
6-4-60 or 2 days before 6-6-60 as I am the one who reveals the name of the Antichrist.
(I won't give it here as I think it may break forum rules and he is not yet a public person.)

I was also born 12 years after the revival of the state of Israel in 1948.
And the 6 day war (with one days rest, sound familiar?) that liberated Jerusalem, fulfilling prophecy began on my 7th birthday in 1967.

I don't have time to go into it more here, but there is more on the blog.

More...

Compelling coincidence, if it's true. I will need to see some form of identification in order to confirm this.

[Pure Argent]

"If religous men gain access to nuclear weapons, there will be war on the horizon.."
I heard a teacher of mine say that. He is a very intelligent man, with many thoughts and opinions, and wise enough to admit when he is ignorant.

I say this because many wars were over religon.


^^----wiki for religon----^^
Granted some were over land, conquest, and resources. But weren't the religous wars over the same thing?

This whole arguement just reminds me of this. Jehova Witnesses are able to interpet it's words and manipulate them for any situation and possible even include themselves if they wished to.


^^----wiki for Jehova Witnesses----^^

I admit I'm ignorant about the bible to an extent. I do not read it as much as I should.
So tell me, Dani' El, where does JREF fit into the prophecy? Where do we fit into this equation in general?

I'm sure any intelligent prophet could put any of this into information I can understand, right?

I'm pretty sure that the JREF doesn't figure on his prophecy at all, except that he is trying to use his prophecy to show us the error of our heretical ways.

[Dani' El]

Actually no, I haven't fashioned an idol to suit myself. God is all things to all people. For the record, I am a Unitarian Universalist, and my personal spiritual journey has led me to believe in God, but I also recognize the right of others to their own spiritual journeys, whether that leads them to believing in God, Zeus, Odin, Buddha, Allah, Yahweh, Krishna, Goddess, or even no God at all. My best friend is a Pagan; I regularly deal quite pleasantly with atheists in my church. It is possible to have differing beliefs and still get along, you know. And when I say I believe in a benevolent and loving God, how did you get "does not judge sin" out of that?

I've spent a lot of time observing human behavior; I base my beliefs partially on how I have observed people act when they have done something they know to be wrong. I have made peace with my beliefs, and your proselytizing will not change my mind on this score. And yes, I do know the difference between murder and the execution of a murderer; what's your point? That the people of California in general are murderers? I'd have to disagree with you there; the majority of the population of California are good people simply trying to live their lives, many of whom believe strongly in God and His love. What exactly, according to you, did they do to bring "God's wrath" down upon them anyway?

I reiterate my earlier point; please, seek help. I am growing truly concerned for you, and if I could, I would report your whereabouts to the nearest mental health facility in order to get you said help. You are sick, Daniel; you need help. Please seek it.

Sorry friend, that's idolatry, pure and simple.

And 4000 unborn children are being murdered everyday in the USA.

[Dani' El]

Compelling coincidence, if it's true. I will need to see some form of identification in order to confirm this.

Hard to do for me right now.
I'll see what I can do.

But is it not interesting that such a date exists at all? (my bday)

Only an omniscient God could do such a thing.

[Thunder]

And 4000 unborn children are being murdered everyday in the USA.

multi-celled organisms ain't children.

[Thunder]

O

I was born 3000 years after king David on June 4, 1960,
6-4-60 or 2 days before 6-6-60 as I am the one who reveals the name of the Antichrist.

please seek professional help.

[MIKILLINI]

Hard to do for me right now.
I'll see what I can do.

But is it not interesting that such a date exists at all? (my bday)

Only an omniscient God could do such a thing.

I would wager you were not the only one allegedly born on that day. Wouldn't an omniscient god forsee his initial creations disobey him while not knowing the difference from right or wrong?

[bokonon]

All I ask of anyone is to wait and see, unless of course you live in Calif.
People of California, fear not. For behold, I bring you good tidings. I have consulted the pasta oracle, and we are promised protection from the evil Meshugenah Yeshua.

The bible warns loudly of the false prophets of the last days, so I would expect all to be very, very careful of anyone claiming the office of prophet.
False prophet - check.
Last days - not by a long shot.

Anyway, I pray that this judgment will open your eyes and lead you to faith in Messiah Yeshua.I'm sorry, Dave, I can't allow you to jeopardize my mission. I won't say more now, but you will discover that your tin-whistle god is completely powerless against my macaroni mojo.

Shalom,
Dani' El
Klaatu barada nikto,

Godstopper

[Lisa Simpson]

RA-men

[Elizabeth I]

Why are people in San Jose and Bakersfield being punished for the sins of SF and LA?

Because they didn't go up (or down, or over) there and kill them all themselves, of course! :rolleyes::boggled:

[bokonon]

Because they didn't go up (or down, or over) there and kill them all themselves, of course! :rolleyes::boggled:
Heh, I was watching a show about Joshua today on The History Channel, and they were telling the story about how the sun was going down on some big battle before Joshua's forces had managed to kill all the people God wanted dead.

So Joshua prayed.

Did God kill the few remaining enemies himself?

He did not.

He stopped the sun for an hour, so Joshua's boys would have enough light to keep on hacking. What a guy.

[quarky]

Unless L.A. and S.F. are going to be vaporized, there demise spells some problems for Petaluma and Mendocino too. If the word of the prophet spreads, won't people living in the doomed areas try to flee to surrounding safe areas?

[Sabrina]

Sorry friend, that's idolatry, pure and simple.

And 4000 unborn children are being murdered everyday in the USA.

Um no, actually it's not idolatry; idolatry would be if I were to try to set up my beliefs about God as an official religion, which I am not doing; I simply keep my quiet beliefs.

And well over 4000 people, children, elderly, and between, die on a daily basis the world over because of decisions people make; so why single out California when the rest of the world is as screwed up as they appear to be? Sorry, but your argument does not hold water.

Once again I reiterate; seek help. Soon.

[Tricky]

On the day that I leave SF for Israel, God will destroy SF and LA with fire and brimstone from heaven.
That day is Yom Kippur, 2009.
Or Sept 28-29, 2009 some 4 weeks away.
I will say this for Dani' El. At least his prediction is for the near future. I mean, I'm getting tired of waiting for 2012 for Armageddon. At least it will be less than a month until either Dani' El is proved right, he slinks off, or he stays and starts making excuses. That alone makes this prediction superior to most.

"I hate waiting."
--- Inego Montoya

[Paul]

beaten to it by Sabrina :p, but now I've written it I'll make my point anyway.


Sorry friend, that's idolatry, pure and simple.Erm, no it's not.

Where does Sabrina mention worshipping any image, object, or being besides god?

You, on the other hand, worship jesus, which can quite easily be construed as idolatry.


And 4000 unborn children are being murdered everyday in the USA.Two things: Assuming you mean abortions, the last year available from the CDC (http://www.cdc.gov/reproductivehealth/Data_Stats/Abortion.htm) is 2005 when the total averages out to around 2246 "legal induced abortions" per day; secondly, what does that have to do with California?

[billw]

He says it will be almost all of CA, so I'm not safe in Orange County and neither are you.

Orange County is a dangerous place! Why, just the other weekend we were visiting friends in Newport Beach, and we couldn't even find a place to park our car - imagine.

[billw]

Why are people in San Jose and Bakersfield being punished for the sins of SF and LA?

I can't speak for San Jose, but Bakersfield has dens of iniquity like Buck Owen's Crystal Palace...

[Cavemonster]

Dani,
Let's make a bet. If the day after Yom Kippur, SF and LA have been destroyed, I'll fly to Israel and serve your ministry or whatever it is you're doing there.

If, by some weird miracle, those cities are still there, you'll visit a doctor, tell him what you told us, and do what he tells you to do.

Since you're confident that the destruction will happen, you can make this bet with no risk. What do you say?

[Paul]

While I'm reminded about Israel...

Dani' El what makes you think Israel is going to let a christian tell them what to do?

[Personal Grudge]

Frankly, I'm very concerned about Dani' El. My hope is that he is simply lying and looking for attention. However, I worry that he may actually believe what he is saying... which means that he may potentially be dangerous to himself or others. I worry about the end of September; not because I believe that California is really going to suffer some type of cateclysm... but because of what he may do when it doesn't.

Several posts ago, I asked him a question... basically, what would he do if God commanded him to kill unbelievers or homosexuals? On his blog, he has stated that the killing in the Bible was justified (even killing of children), because we are not as wise as God, and we should not question him. I did not receive an answer to this question. And I deeply worry about what "God" may request of him should the California cataclysm not occur.

I admit that I too long to ridicule the kinds of posts that he presents. I have often done it myself. And maybe I am overly optimistic in trying to reach out to him... maybe it will not help one bit. However, I am hesitant to ridicule him. If he is truly mentally ill, then ridicule may just drive him deeper into his convictions.

I'm not judging anyone. I've certainly thought of at least a dozen sarcastic replies to Dani' El's posts. However, we must realize that people with mental illness exist. And it must be a rare situation for a mentally-ill person to actually realize that they are mentally-ill. I'm no psychologist, but I think I'll choose to treat this situation seriously for now.

[Hokulele]

Dani'El, why do you think so many people are recommending you speak with a health professional? Can you read what you are writing through their eyes?

[LostAngeles]

Wait a minute...in your mind I'm wicked solely because I live in California? And your God is going to kill me and my children solely because we live here?


First, my main goal here is not concerned with Randi's challenge, but the salvation of your souls.l

Dani'El, as you may be able to guess from my username, I'm in Los Angeles and, well, gosh, I really don't want God to kill me. I also worry about all of the other innocents and God's faithful here. Tell me, how can we appease God so that God will spare us and hopefully all of the good people here in CA?

Dani'El, how can my soul be saved?

[SezMe]

Since you're confident that the destruction will happen, you can make this bet with no risk. What do you say?
He's already rejected such a deal.

[Personal Grudge]

Dani'El, as you may be able to guess from my username, I'm in Los Angeles and, well, gosh, I really don't want God to kill me. I also worry about all of the other innocents and God's faithful here. Tell me, how can we appease God so that God will spare us and hopefully all of the good people here in CA?

Dani'El, how can my soul be saved?

From reading him blog... I would guess that he would say that your soul can be saved by accepting God and repenting of your sins. However, this doesn't mean that your life can be spared.

He can certainly correct me if I have misinterpreted his writings. However, I don't think he views death as a punishment for believers. When God kills children, this is not a bad thing... after all, these children will immediately reside in paradise with their lord God.

God can do no wrong, and is righteous in all his actions. Therefore, if he destroys a city that includes two million sinners and one million righteous... then it is still a good action. The loss of life for those one million righteous is not a bad thing. In my opinion, this is possibly the most dangerous mentality that one can obtain.

Again, I could be completely wrong about the comments on his blog, and I welcome correction. Overall, though, I gather a sense of "Death is coming, and you better be on God's side when he kills you" mentality.

[UnrepentantSinner]

Don't think he was Jewish, though. At least he didn't LOOK Jewish, being 6'6" and all.

What, there are no 6'6" Jews?

I was thinking of Brad Garrett (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Garrett) myself.

[AJM8125]

Oh great. I thought this was going to be a Giants Vs Dodgers thread. Guess I should have paid attention to what forum I staggered into. Oh well, I guess deep down I knew I'd eventually pay the price for the city view and really good fresh fish.

Dani' El, If you're ever interested, I have some friends here in The City that would like to talk to you. They're really understanding, they'll never judge you and they just want to make sure you're doing OK. That's it. PM if you want the contact info.

[Björn Toulouse]

From reading him blog... I would guess that he would say that your soul can be saved by accepting God and repenting of your sins. However, this doesn't mean that your life can be spared.

He can certainly correct me if I have misinterpreted his writings. However, I don't think he views death as a punishment for believers. When God kills children, this is not a bad thing... after all, these children will immediately reside in paradise with their lord God.

God can do no wrong, and is righteous in all his actions. Therefore, if he destroys a city that includes two million sinners and one million righteous... then it is still a good action. The loss of life for those one million righteous is not a bad thing. In my opinion, this is possibly the most dangerous mentality that one can obtain.

Again, I could be completely wrong about the comments on his blog, and I welcome correction. Overall, though, I gather a sense of "Death is coming, and you better be on God's side when he kills you" mentality.


I didn't/couldn't read his entire blog, just enough to get a bit of the flavor (when fish tastes bad you don't eat the whole thing), but my feeling is yes - his god will save your soul but destroy your physical life in the process.

Another thing about these modern day religious prophets is that while their god is more than willing to destroy SF and LA in 2009, since the "days of Lot", this same god was unable or unwilling to identify a more suitable target somewhere in history for destruction? Amongst the obvious other factors, his prophecy has a lot to do with the date of his salvation and his subsequent search for a personal culprit.

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[Monster Machine]

I feel bad that god is going to throw down his wrath right on top of Kurious Kathy!

Kathy - run! Run for your life! The end is nigh!

Monster

[Jonnyclueless]

Sorry friend, that's idolatry, pure and simple.

And 4000 unborn children are being murdered everyday in the USA.


You're committing idolatry for 10,000 other religions. So Sorry my "friend" you're a hypocrite who seems to have run away from your own thread.

And your god won't be very please that you claim to speak on his or her behalf and represent what it's wants and needs are, yet completely misrepresent his or her word. you are not guilty not only in the eyes of all the other religions, but your own.

[Jonnyclueless]

Is there anyone in Dani's area that might be able to recommend a good therapist and perhaps some good medication that might be able to help Dani?

[Lisa Simpson]

Is there anyone in Dani's area that might be able to recommend a good therapist and perhaps some good medication that might be able to help Dani?

Check out AJM8125's post above.

[AJM8125]

Check out AJM8125's post above.

I can even go to the library and talk if he wishes. No pressure though.

[JimBenArm]

I was thinking of Brad Garrett (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brad_Garrett) myself.
Don't you all know your stereotypes? All Jews are short, swarthy, and non-athletic! It's true, all the MaGZ types tell me so!

[Dani' El]

Ok, I'm back.

My time is very short today, so I cannot even try to untangle the mass of questions/mockery/sarcasm here.
As you may imagine, I am swamped with questions right now from all quarters.
I am not 'abandoning my thread" or ignoring anyone.
I hope to have a bit more time online after the holiday, so please be patient.

I just wanted to share a couple of things.

1 is that all of God's elect will be delivered from the judgment, which is why in Luke 17, the warning to not go back for anything and "Remember Lot's wife" is given.
So if anyone fears this wrath, flee from it by calling on the name of the Lord RIGHT NOW.

The point I was trying to make earlier, is if one sees the fire coming down, having not done so earlier, they may well have salvation, like the thief on the cross, but still lose their lives.

2. I wanted to share one of the more powerful signs that was given last year that this is coming.
When Calif bypassed the will of the people and forced sodomite marriage thru the courts, I began to give warning. An early season heat wave began in Calif.

When the first sodomite marriages were performed in Calif I stood on the steps of city hall and gave warning.
3 days later God sent an unprecedented dry lightning storm that kindled a shocking 2000 wildfires in the state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gap_Fire

All of the fire officials were in a state of shock.
The weather officials said this was an unprecedented event in Calif history.
I've lived here for most of 49 years and have never seen anything like it.

And of course, we've had the several terrible wind driven fire storms that have torn thru San diego and LA since then.
Those nearly 100 mph Santa Anas were not your normal wind event.

Anyway, thanks again for the misguided but genuine concern for my health.
But I am more than fine, thanks.

I am also praying for anyone who hears this warning, that they would repent and put their trust in the Saviour.
I know that God guides me to where He wants me to go for a reason, so I trust that some here will eventually come to the Faith.

Kol tuv,
Dani' El

[dafydd]

Ok, I'm back.

My time is very short today, so I cannot even try to untangle the mass of questions/mockery/sarcasm here.
As you may imagine, I am swamped with questions right now from all quarters.
I am not 'abandoning my thread" or ignoring anyone.
I hope to have a bit more time online after the holiday, so please be patient.

I just wanted to share a couple of things.

1 is that all of God's elect will be delivered from the judgment, which is why in Luke 17, the warning to not go back for anything and "Remember Lot's wife" is given.
So if anyone fears this wrath, flee from it by calling on the name of the Lord RIGHT NOW.

The point I was trying to make earlier, is if one sees the fire coming down, having not done so earlier, they may well have salvation, like the thief on the cross, but still lose their lives.

2. I wanted to share one of the more powerful signs that was given last year that this is coming.
When Calif bypassed the will of the people and forced sodomite marriage thru the courts, I began to give warning. An early season heat wave began in Calif.

When the first sodomite marriages were performed in Calif I stood on the steps of city hall and gave warning.
3 days later God sent an unprecedented dry lightning storm that kindled a shocking 2000 wildfires in the state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gap_Fire

All of the fire officials were in a state of shock.
The weather officials said this was an unprecedented event in Calif history.
I've lived here for most of 49 years and have never seen anything like it.

And of course, we've had the several terrible wind driven fire storms that have torn thru San diego and LA since then.
Those nearly 100 mph Santa Anas were not your normal wind event.

Anyway, thanks again for the misguided but genuine concern for my health.
But I am more than fine, thanks.

I am also praying for anyone who hears this warning, that they would repent and put their trust in the Saviour.
I know that God guides me to where He wants me to go for a reason, so I trust that some here will eventually come to the Faith.

Kol tuv,
Dani' El

Here's a dollar,don't spend it on drink.

[Silly Green Monkey]

So Proposition 8 meant absolutely nothing then? And why aren't the states currently performing same-sex marriages suffering fire like the fire-prone gay marriage-abolishing California?

[Lisa Simpson]

An early season heat wave began in Calif.

Not here in SoCal, it didn't. The first part of August was unseasonably cool. The second half of August has been normal, SoCal late summer temperatures.

[Dani' El]

Not here in SoCal, it didn't. The first part of August was unseasonably cool. The second half of August has been normal, SoCal late summer temperatures.

The 2000 fires burnt mostly forest, and were provided as a warning, not a judgment.
And this was in 2008.

[Dani' El]

So Proposition 8 meant absolutely nothing then? And why aren't the states currently performing same-sex marriages suffering fire like the fire-prone gay marriage-abolishing California?

The dest of Calif will be a judgment on the nation as a whole.
With Calif's silicon valley, ports, military bases, entertainment ind alll gone, the USA will cease to exist as we know her.

The north american union will be formed out of the ashes, mexico, canada, and the us.

But by the end of the age, in about 20 years, NYC will have been destroyed by what sounds like a nuke attack, and the rest of the nation destroyed by quakes, fires, tsunamis, an asteroid strike etc.

And just because one opposes sodomite marriage does not make one righteous.
The Mormons and muslims oppose sodomite marriage.
To be socially conservative will not save you.

You can be conservative, and a total greedhead.

One nees to repent of all sin and trust the Lord.
Period.

[Dani' El]

multi-celled organisms ain't children.

The Nazis thought many folks were subhuman as well.

[Lisa Simpson]

The 2000 fires burnt mostly forest, and were provided as a warning, not a judgment.
And this was in 2008.

You didn't say that in your original post. And where's your proof that the Santa Anas we get have been out of the ordinary?

[Dani' El]

Dani'El, why do you think so many people are recommending you speak with a health professional? Can you read what you are writing through their eyes?

All the prophets, including Jesus heard the same sentiments-

19There was a division therefore again among the Jews for these sayings.
20And many of them said, He hath a devil, and is mad; why hear ye him?

Your reactions, coming from unbelief are to be expected.
But they are in error.

not long to wait.

out of time.
Shalom

[Jonnyclueless]

Ok, I'm back.

My time is very short today, so I cannot even try to untangle the mass of questions/mockery/sarcasm here.
As you may imagine, I am swamped with questions right now from all quarters.
I am not 'abandoning my thread" or ignoring anyone.
I hope to have a bit more time online after the holiday, so please be patient.

I just wanted to share a couple of things.

1 is that all of God's elect will be delivered from the judgment, which is why in Luke 17, the warning to not go back for anything and "Remember Lot's wife" is given.
So if anyone fears this wrath, flee from it by calling on the name of the Lord RIGHT NOW.

The point I was trying to make earlier, is if one sees the fire coming down, having not done so earlier, they may well have salvation, like the thief on the cross, but still lose their lives.

2. I wanted to share one of the more powerful signs that was given last year that this is coming.
When Calif bypassed the will of the people and forced sodomite marriage thru the courts, I began to give warning. An early season heat wave began in Calif.

When the first sodomite marriages were performed in Calif I stood on the steps of city hall and gave warning.
3 days later God sent an unprecedented dry lightning storm that kindled a shocking 2000 wildfires in the state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gap_Fire

All of the fire officials were in a state of shock.
The weather officials said this was an unprecedented event in Calif history.
I've lived here for most of 49 years and have never seen anything like it.

And of course, we've had the several terrible wind driven fire storms that have torn thru San diego and LA since then.
Those nearly 100 mph Santa Anas were not your normal wind event.

Anyway, thanks again for the misguided but genuine concern for my health.
But I am more than fine, thanks.

I am also praying for anyone who hears this warning, that they would repent and put their trust in the Saviour.
I know that God guides me to where He wants me to go for a reason, so I trust that some here will eventually come to the Faith.

Kol tuv,
Dani' El

Dani, please stop with the sarcasm and mockery.