Glenn Beck Rape Coverup

[Praktik]

http://glennbeckrapedandmurderedayounggirlin1990.com/

"FACT: In the year 1990 there were many girls.

FACT: In the year 1990 there was Glenn Beck.

FACT: Many people are wondering if Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990.

FACT: The MSM has not investigated whether Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990, despite many people wondering if it's true. Is there anyone out there refuting these FACTS? "

"Well, i'm not saying that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a young girl in 1990 but he has yet to prove that he didn't.

RELEASE THE DOCS!

- A concerned citizen" Hey - we're just asking questions!

[volatile]

Saw this yesterday. I imagine its satirical value will be lost on those to whom realising it would be most useful.

[Lisa Simpson]

Why am I not surprised it originated on Fark?

[Sabrina]

Itz on teh intarwebz!!

It must be twooooooo.... [/tinfoil nutter mode] :D

[Praktik]

http://politicalirony.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/beck_rape.jpg

[linusrichard]

I, of course, personally don't find it likely that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990. But it's baffling to me that he's not been willing to release the documents that would clear this whole thing up. You would think that he would want to just put these very serious questions to rest.

[MysteryMammal]

I, of course, personally don't find it likely that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990. But it's baffling to me that he's not been willing to release the documents that would clear this whole thing up. You would think that he would want to just put these very serious questions to rest.

I agree. I think it's fairly damning that he has not even chosen to address, let alone deny, these allegations.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Why am I not surprised it originated on Fark?

Indeed.

[jakesteele]

Starting a rumor like this is one of the worst things you can do to another person. It's like a high school girl getting pissed at a male instructor for flunking her and crying rape. Even when if the instructor is proven innocent, he has to quit the job and he will have a stigma attached to his good name forever more.

People that start **** like this should punished to the full extent of the law. It is libel, defamation of character in it's worst form. If I was Glenn I would start making anonymous calls to the Child Protective Agency making claims of child abuse about any of those jerkwads that have kids.

I keep hearing people say, "Well, why doesn't he release documents...or whatever to prove his innocence. That's like trying to disprove a negative and it's not up to him to prove anything. It is up to the court to do so.

I think whoever started this had better come up with some concrete evidence or they are going to get sued in ways they don't even exist.

Like him or not, imagine yourself being accused of being a pedophile and having to try to prove you're not.

[Praktik]

He's being hoisted on his own petard.

"I can't debunk FEMA camps"

"Obama hates white people"

"Obama is leading us to a Nazi state"

He cherry picks the facts just as the creators of the site are doing to him.

It's brilliant, and has my full support.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

If I was Glenn I would start making anonymous calls to the Child Protective Agency making claims of child abuse about any of those jerkwads that have kids.

Yes, because clearly when someone comes up with immature crap like they're 14 year old boys, escalation is the proper course of action.

[Skeptic]

It's not just a parody of his particular conspiracy theory, but (unintentionally) of all of them.

Right now, for example, we have supporters on this very forum (er, fora?) of claims that (a) 9/11 was planned by Bush, (b) Israelies stole organs from Palestinians they killed, and (c) the holocaust never happened and Hitler was a misunderstood, gentle soul, all supported in the very same way this parody "supports" its claims:

"I don't myself really think this, but I want an honest investigation of the facts, just because of the families of all those innocent victims of Bush / Israel / the Jews / Obama / whomever. Why is it forbidden to ask questions? What are Bush / Israel / the Jews / Obama / whomever trying to hide???"

[Praktik]

And is accusing him of raping and killing a girl any worse than him hinting that FEMA concentration camps were being set up for Republican detainees or that Obama is a Nazi-in-sheep's clothing who's going to turn America into a Nazi state?

I mean, given the choice between a tyrant and concentration camps and a child murderer, I'd pick the child murderer any day. At least he has less victims.

[dudalb]

Starting a rumor like this is one of the worst things you can do to another person. It's like a high school girl getting pissed at a male instructor for flunking her and crying rape. Even when if the instructor is proven innocent, he has to quit the job and he will have a stigma attached to his good name forever more.

People that start **** like this should punished to the full extent of the law. It is libel, defamation of character in it's worst form. If I was Glenn I would start making anonymous calls to the Child Protective Agency making claims of child abuse about any of those jerkwads that have kids.

I keep hearing people say, "Well, why doesn't he release documents...or whatever to prove his innocence. That's like trying to disprove a negative and it's not up to him to prove anything. It is up to the court to do so.

I think whoever started this had better come up with some concrete evidence or they are going to get sued in ways they don't even exist.

Like him or not, imagine yourself being accused of being a pedophile and having to try to prove you're not.

It's called SATIRE. Beck has been instrumental in spreading a number of false rumors about Obama (we are not talking about disagreements with Obama's policies) and now someone is ridiculing him for it.
It's called satire and humor. Look it up and chill out.

[applecorped]

Two wrongs make a satire?

[Whiplash]

Let me shock you all.

I find it unproductive and childish.

[tuc0]

I heard it was in 1993, not 1990. I may be wrong but I think he should clear that up.

[fourtoe]

I bet I can prove that Beck DIDN"T exist in 1990. Now that would be a badass conspiracy IMO.


I'm all about satire but I think the guy fake-accusing GB of raping a girl takes away from the point trying to be made with the satire. Glenn Beck smoking crack off a hooker and then murdering her I think would have done the trick.

[Whiplash]

Volatile said it best, this will be lost on those it should impact the most.

So it's pointless. I'll tell you exactly how most of those whill react:

"Look at these liberals. They are so bent out of shape over the truth we are spreading about Obama.. now they are doing "tit for tat" with us. They aren't even trying to defend Obama anymore. They are just attacking the credibility of our own people. What a shock. Nothing new. How typical. It shows we are making progress. It shows that we are getting under their skin"

Ultimately, this will end up being nothing but a big high five, backslapping moment for the lefties who think this is so clever. But achievs zilch, and only futher divides us. I'm sick of this mentality.. from either side. It is "tit for tat". It's the same endless circle jerk that continues to get us nowhere.

[linusrichard]

"Tit for tat" would be if anyone was spreading this rumor with the intention that people start thinking of Glenn Beck as a child rapist/murderer. Maybe some people are jumping aboard this meme-train with that intention, but that's dumb. The point of it is obviously not to make Beck look like a criminal, but to show how stupid and dishonest his "arguments" are. That's not tit-for-tat, it is potentially useful, and it's entertaining to boot.

[Matthew Cline]

This might work better i it was 110% clear that it was satire, like accuse him of being a werewolf or something. Why won't he drink colloidal silver while being filmed on national TV? Doing that would clear everything up.

[CptColumbo]

Hmmmm...

Jim Henson Died in 1990.

Beck sounds an awful lot like Kermit the Frog and looks like Fozzie Bear.

COINCIDENCE!!??

[Foolmewunz]

Let me shock you all.

I find it unproductive and childish.

Yes, I'm shocked. It took you almost seven hours?

:spjimlad::spjimlad:

[Travis]

How do we even know that Glenn Beck actually exists at all?

[DavidJames]

...Glenn...accused of being a pedophile...Exactly, why hasn't he come forward to face the accusations? Why hasn't he provided the proof of his innocence? What does he have to hide?

[Skeptic]

Two wrongs make a satire?

Actually, yes. When someone makes absurd allegations, making the very same absurd allegations about him -- thus emphasizing their absurdity -- IS satire.

Not a particularly good satire, perhaps, but obviously satire (as opposed to a seriously-intended accusation) nonetheless.

[Skeptic]

How do we even know that Glenn Beck actually exists at all?

Glenn Beck was born in 1964. There were Jews in 1964. The Jews created Glenn Beck.

[Fishstick]

Surely if this wasn't true, all Beck would have to do is come forward and deny that he had anything to do with it. Why hasn't he done this yet? Why is he hiding behind a wall of lawyers?

[timhau]

Starting a rumor like this is one of the worst things you can do to another person.

That's true. That's why I want to state that as far as I know, Beck hasn't raped and/or killed anyone.

[Scott Sommers]

And is accusing him of raping and killing a girl any worse than him hinting that FEMA concentration camps were being set up for Republican detainees.


Did Beck really do this? I've seen videos of him stating there are no verifiable FEMA concentration camps. He was pretty clear on this and he was doing so in response to that other all-around great guy Alex Jones.

I'm not defending the guy, but when did he say this?

[Praktik]

Did Beck really do this? I've seen videos of him stating there are no verifiable FEMA concentration camps. He was pretty clear on this and he was doing so in response to that other all-around great guy Alex Jones.

I'm not defending the guy, but when did he say this?

He later recanted, look I compiled a lot on another board I will direct you there. (http://www.tribemagazine.com/board/showthread.php?t=156203)

[Praktik]

Ultimately, this will end up being nothing but a big high five, backslapping moment for the lefties who think this is so clever. But achievs zilch

No no, it achieves a smile and some laughs and brings me closer to my Socialist friends here in Socialist Toronto.

I've been digitally high fiving this to a lot of my buddies and the hilarity is much appreciated.

Maybe its a generational thing.

[AWPrime]

That's true. That's why I want to state that as far as I know, Beck hasn't raped and/or killed anyone.How can be be sure, that this is the truth? ;)

[timhau]

How can be be sure, that this is the truth? ;)

We can't, not conclusively, but Mr. Beck could put the matter to rest himself. He has not done so as of now. I also have no reason to believe that he put himself through college (or part thereof) by giving cheap BJs at truckstops; it's somewhat puzzling that he hasn't denied this, but I have no reason to believe that.

[Praktik]

http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4028/beckrapesgraph.jpg

[Klimax]

I heard it was in 1993, not 1990. I may be wrong but I think he should clear that up.

Does it matter if I have never seen him,not even on TV?(Or interwebz)

Glenn beck does not exist,so how could he rape them!!!

:D

(I know that such allegiations(even for parody) are very thin ice,but with carefull guidance it won¨t backfire or cause other problems)

Anyway this has level similar to Czech Soda... (It was bit much even for us)

[thrombus29]

And is accusing him of raping and killing a girl any worse than him hinting that FEMA concentration camps were being set up for Republican detainees or that Obama is a Nazi-in-sheep's clothing who's going to turn America into a Nazi state?

I mean, given the choice between a tyrant and concentration camps and a child murderer, I'd pick the child murderer any day. At least he has less victims.

I hadn't heard about the murder!!!

Why cant Glen Beck just provide the evidence that he didn't commit these horrible rapes and murders and arsons?

[tuc0]

Does it matter if I have never seen him,not even on TV?(Or interwebz)

Glenn beck does not exist,so how could he rape them!!!

:D

(I know that such allegiations(even for parody) are very thin ice,but with carefull guidance it won¨t backfire or cause other problems)

Anyway this has level similar to Czech Soda... (It was bit much even for us)

I know him from some Daily Show episodes and a couple of youtube clips. I realize that's hardly conclusive or objective, but to me he's such a disgusting faux-sincere folksy dishonest journalist impersonator douchebag :rule10 that the mere sight of his stupid face just gets my blood boiling. I also heard he did some very bad things in 1990 and that's enough for me to wish him only the worst.

[zaphod2016]

This is gross.

I understand I'm in the minority. And I have no love for Glenn Beck. But in my opinion, spreading lies to push your own agenda makes you the same monster you accuse Beck of being.

Give him enough rope and he'll hang himself. Don't stoop to his level.

[oldhat]

Does anyone know the name of the girl Glenn Beck raped and murdered in 1990?

[Biscuit]

That's true. That's why I want to state that as far as I know, Beck hasn't raped and/or killed anyone.

wonderful response. made my day.

[fuelair]

Glenn Beck Rape Coverup





I didn't know Glenn Beck had been raped! Hope the rapist had his/her immunizations in order!!!

[thrombus29]

Does anyone know the name of the girl Glenn Beck raped and murdered in 1990?

Glenn Beck has as of this time provided no evidence that her name wasn't Coleen Walker.

[zaphod2016]

Glenn Beck, guilty of rape and murder? Desperation shows on the left (http://www.examiner.com/x-8817-Pittsburgh-Conservative-Examiner~y2009m9d3-Glenn-Beck-guilty-of-rape-and-murder--Desperation-shows-on-the-left)

In a desperate attempt to discredit Glenn Beck, constitutional watch-dog and talk show host, progressive/liberal bloggers have started a rumor about the possibility that he raped and murdered a girl in 1990.

Did you expect the right-wing would respond any other way?

I'll repeat myself. This is gross. It serves no purpose.

What is your objection of Beck? That he spreads misinformation. So what, exactly, is spreading misinformation supposed to prove? That "both sides" are equally scummy?

You blew it. You had the moral high ground, and you blew it. And for what? This only serves to boost Beck's popularity among the right-wing. You are helping his ratings, and his book sales. You are helping him to earn more money, and gain more attention.

[JoeyDonuts]

I'm with Zaphod here.

A lot of folks are going to be helplessly lost forever to the maelstrom of right-wing politco-tainment crap because of this.

[Biscuit]

I think some people are getting a little worked up about this and I do not think there is any risk of losing moral high ground to Beck. Parodying his tactics to an absurd level may actually show some people just how silly his 'style' is.

It is not quite as clever but along the same lines of John Stewart's commentary about how fox news doesn't make accusations they just ask questions like, "Is Obama a muslim?" or "Does Obama support terrorism?"

Its the all important question mark that allows these clowns to say anything they want as if it is a legitimate point. I believe John ended the segment by asking something along the lines of "Is fox news the worst news organization ever?"

I wish they hadn't used rape and murder as their parody as its going to make them seem less clever and more out for shock value. Something along the lines of, "Was Glenn Beck involved in gay sex and coke parties in the 1990's?" or something like that.

But on the same note I am deeply offended when people on the right malign the president for not being American and call him a racists so I just have to point out that rape, girls, murder and Beck where all around in 1990 so until he proves otherwise, is it possible that Glenn Beck raped and murdered a girl in 1990?

[zaphod2016]

I think some people are getting a little worked up about this and I do not think there is any risk of losing moral high ground to Beck. Parodying his tactics to an absurd level may actually show some people just how silly his 'style' is.

The people who understand the Internet and the way parody works here are not the same people watching Beck's program.

My elderly neighbor loves Beck. Watches him every night. And if I tried to explain this parody to her, she would be horrified. In her eyes Beck would be even more heroic for standing up to the slander from the radical lefties.

I am no fan of Beck. I find it bizarre I am now in a position defending him. But the fact is, countless journalists are equally guilty of the absurd, sensationalist style Beck is being vilified for. The Onion, John Stewart and countless others have pointed this out time and time again.

This is the madness of crowds in action. I agree with the cause to improve news media; I disagree with the tactics. Just imagine if everyone participating in this meme sent a dollar to NPR or PBS instead. Just imagine how effective we could be at forcing real change in American news.

But we won't. We'll laugh and joke and forget all about this next week, when some dude lighting his farts on YouTube becomes the next force du jour.

I heard that people objected to Beck because he spread ********* to push his own agenda. I heard those same people are just as bad, do the exact same thing, and have no moral high ground left.

Of course...I just heard that. On Twitter. Or maybe Facebook.

[AWPrime]

Could this push him into having a mental breakdown?

[timhau]

Could this push him into having a mental breakdown?

Does he have the equipment needed for a mental breakdown?

[AWPrime]

Does he have the equipment needed for a mental breakdown?
Well I did see a youtube video from The Young Turk, in which Glenn has a mental breakdown while on radio.

(I need to look it up)

[Fishstick]

Does he have the equipment needed for a mental breakdown?

He already has a whiteboard and crayons, so...

Hold on. You know who else likes crayons? That's right, little girls! We're through the looking glass here, people.

[grandthefttoaster]

This is stupid and not funny at all. Little girls being raped and murdered, wow hilarious.

[timhau]

Little girls being raped and murdered, wow hilarious.

As I have repeatedly stated, I have no reason to believe that Beck raped and killed a little girl. I don't understand what all the fuss is about, but Beck could easily put an end to all this nonsense.

[Fishstick]

This is stupid and not funny at all. Little girls being raped and murdered, wow hilarious.

Noone's accusing Beck of anything, we're just asking questions. You shouldn't be afraid to ask questions, unless you've been drinking the Kool-Aid!

[Praktik]

I'll repeat myself. This is gross. It serves no purpose.

wrong.

It serves the purpose of providing entertainment and hilarity.

[Skeptic]

This is gross.

I understand I'm in the minority. And I have no love for Glenn Beck. But in my opinion, spreading lies to push your own agenda makes you the same monster you accuse Beck of being.

Give him enough rope and he'll hang himself. Don't stoop to his level.

Er... the web page, while crude, is obviously satire. Its point is not that Beck actually raped anybody, but that the same logic used to "prove" Obama was not native born (or that 9/11 is an inside job or whatever) can just as easily be used to "prove" Beck is a rapist.

[Skeptic]

The people who understand the Internet and the way parody works here are not the same people watching Beck's program.

I dunno. The "oh, we're not like those stupid people" feeling is tempting, but not necessarily true. More to the point, even if so, so what? Just because some idiot on the internet might not understand it's satire hardly means one should not do it, or else nobody would every do any satire, however obvious, on the net.

[Praktik]

I dunno. The "oh, we're not like those stupid people" feeling is tempting, but not necessarily true. More to the point, even if so, so what? Just because some idiot on the internet might not understand it's satire hardly means one should not do it, or else nobody would every do any satire, however obvious, on the net.

Exactly. We should not handicap ourselves by playing to the fool demographic.

[Mangoose]

Does a Gilbert Gottfried joke need to be rehashed?

[zaphod2016]

Just because some idiot on the internet might not understand it's satire hardly means one should not do it

No no, the idiots on the Internet LOVE this.

The idiots who watch Beck's show don't "get it", and never will.

It is a very clever idea; it exposes the fallacy of "Beck Inquiry" in a way that most netizens can laugh at. But by using pedophilia and rape as the alleged crime, you have charged the issue to a point that no fan of Beck would even consider the point you are making.

I'm not speculating, I'm stating fact: my neighbor is the main demo of Beck's show. She doesn't "get this" type of humor. In her eyes, you are the villain, and her best course of action is buying his next book and bumping his ratings. It helps Beck, it doesn't hurt him.

I understand: your goal is hilarity, not fixing anything. And that's a good thing, because this won't.

Party on, Wayne.

[Whiplash]

edit: I shouldn't have posted in this again, I don't want anything to do with it. Sorry.

[quadraginta]

This might work better i it was 110% clear that it was satire, like accuse him of being a werewolf or something. Why won't he drink colloidal silver while being filmed on national TV? Doing that would clear everything up.

Not a good choice. Beck True Believers wouldn't even blink at the idea of werewolves.

They might even like the idea of him being one, as long as he was a 'good' werewolf.

[GreNME]

No no, the idiots on the Internet LOVE this.

The idiots who watch Beck's show don't "get it", and never will.

It is a very clever idea; it exposes the fallacy of "Beck Inquiry" in a way that most netizens can laugh at. But by using pedophilia and rape as the alleged crime, you have charged the issue to a point that no fan of Beck would even consider the point you are making.

I'm not speculating, I'm stating fact: my neighbor is the main demo of Beck's show. She doesn't "get this" type of humor. In her eyes, you are the villain, and her best course of action is buying his next book and bumping his ratings. It helps Beck, it doesn't hurt him.

I understand: your goal is hilarity, not fixing anything. And that's a good thing, because this won't.

Party on, Wayne.

Party on, Garth. ;)

[Travis]

The idiots who watch Beck's show don't "get it", and never will.

I think this is a legitimate point. This might be fine for those of us that understand its meaning and get the satire but to others it will be either grossly off putting or simply serve to feed a victim complex.

[SezMe]

From Zap's quote in #44:

... Glenn Beck, constitutional watch-dog ...

Now that's rich.

[AWPrime]

I think this is a legitimate point. This might be fine for those of us that understand its meaning and get the satire but to others it will be either grossly off putting or simply serve to feed a victim complex.There is no way to stop a victim complex anyway. They can only help themselves.

[AWPrime]

Here is the video I was talking about:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YA7-BvVDV10&feature=channel

[jakesteele]

Exactly, why hasn't he come forward to face the accusations? Why hasn't he provided the proof of his innocence? What does he have to hide?

He has nothing to prove. The accusers have everything to prove.

As far as I know this started out as satire on Fark.com and has spread like wildfire. Those idiots can be sued for libel if this damages him professionally, socially or personally.

If you think it's so funny why don't you PM me with your name, address, phone #, name of you wife/children, brothers/sister, mother/father and friends. Maybe it could be arranged for you or someone close to you to get turned into the CPC for child abuse. No matter if it's true or not, by law they have to investigate. You are now officially in their files. If it happens again, they will put you under a microscope and none of the neighbors will let you get near your children and friends and associates will disassociate with you and you will be wearing a Scarlet Letter the rest of you life.

Pretty funny, isn't it. Hey, nothing but good 'ole satire.

[Travis]

He has nothing to prove. The accusers have everything to prove.

As far as I know this started out as satire on Fark.com and has spread like wildfire. Those idiots can be sued for libel if this damages him professionally, socially or personally.

If you think it's so funny why don't you PM me with your name, address, phone #, name of you wife/children, brothers/sister, mother/father and friends. Maybe it could be arranged for you or someone close to you to get turned into the CPC for child abuse. No matter if it's true or not, by law they have to investigate. You are now officially in their files. If it happens again, they will put you under a microscope and none of the neighbors will let you get near your children and friends and associates will disassociate with you and you will be wearing a Scarlet Letter the rest of you life.

Pretty funny, isn't it. Hey, nothing but good 'ole satire.

Unlike Glenn Beck, DavidJames isn't a public figure who is accusing, without evidence, another public figure of not being an American Citizen.

There are very different rules for public figures where libel and slander are concerned. If you don't believe me look up Flynt vs Falwell.

[Biscuit]

He has nothing to prove. The accusers have everything to prove.

As far as I know this started out as satire on Fark.com and has spread like wildfire. Those idiots can be sued for libel if this damages him professionally, socially or personally.

If you think it's so funny why don't you PM me with your name, address, phone #, name of you wife/children, brothers/sister, mother/father and friends. Maybe it could be arranged for you or someone close to you to get turned into the CPC for child abuse. No matter if it's true or not, by law they have to investigate. You are now officially in their files. If it happens again, they will put you under a microscope and none of the neighbors will let you get near your children and friends and associates will disassociate with you and you will be wearing a Scarlet Letter the rest of you life.

Pretty funny, isn't it. Hey, nothing but good 'ole satire.

Wow. How did this go completely over your head?

[Olowkow]

This is gross.

I understand I'm in the minority. And I have no love for Glenn Beck. But in my opinion, spreading lies to push your own agenda makes you the same monster you accuse Beck of being.

Give him enough rope and he'll hang himself. Don't stoop to his level.
Totally agree that it is all lies and innuendo, but I was not aware that he was planning on hanging himself, nor have I heard who has provided the rope. I refuse to stoop to this level and spread such rumors any further. Too bad though that Beck won't just deny his plans.

[GreNME]

He has nothing to prove. The accusers have everything to prove.

The irony. It burns.

[SezMe]

No kidding. Makes the LA fires look like a backyard BBQ.

[Infoexcavator]

I can feel O'Reilly doing a story about this. "The website of the far-left atheist loon James Randi is slandering conservatives and trying to end free speech in America."

He would be right!

Glenn Beck is already vilified and rebuked enough by the main stream media, there is no need to make up stuff as some sort of a punishment for insulting Obama.

[quadraginta]

I can feel O'Reilly doing a story about this. "The website of the far-left atheist loon James Randi is slandering conservatives and trying to end free speech in America."

He would be right!

Glenn Beck is already vilified and rebuked enough by the main stream media, there is no need to make up stuff as some sort of a punishment for insulting Obama.


So. Your position is that Glenn is not mainstream media.

[Infoexcavator]

So. Your position is that Glenn is not mainstream media.

No way, he is a fringe player at this point who is hated by all the other networks. He is the enemy figure that the main stream media wants to discuss, he is so unreasonable that he actually helps Obama.

[tsig]

No way, he is a fringe player at this point who is hated by all the other networks. He is the enemy figure that the main stream media wants to discuss, he is so unreasonable that he actually helps Obama.

Then this will really help Beck.

[Whiplash]

Then this will really help Beck.


I think it will, which is exactly the problem. It's certainly not going to hurt him. At best it falls on deaf ears. At worst it hardens the resolve of his supporters.

[zaphod2016]

I'd just like to opine that whether it helps beck, or hurts beck, it is contrary to the JREF mission of debunking woo, and not inventing it.

[Travis]

I'd just like to opine that whether it helps beck, or hurts beck, it is contrary to the JREF mission of debunking woo, and not inventing it.

Again, I agree. I think there are more constructive ways we can spend our time. Beck's a loon and everyone but his fanboys already knows it.

[Praktik]

wow page 2 got distinctly crotchety over here.

Anyone posting on this page know if the AARP has a comment on the Beck rape case?

[Travis]

Why would the American Association of Retired People's care about this?

[Praktik]

I dunno I figured a few people in this thread might know..;)

[Redtail]

I dunno I figured a few people in this thread might know..;)

I C wut U did thar!!!

[Third Eye Open]

IMO, the only people who aren't going to 'get' this are going to be over 50 with no experience of the internet. In which case I don't care. If it makes young intelligent people think, then it is worth it.

And everyone who has been saying we should stop doing this, I actually 'laughed out loud'. Stop the internet from doing something entertaining? Generational thing indeed.

[Darkieus]

Wow,

It's only a matter of time before this page inspires some News Anchor to bring this up, even if it's lost on them.

It's like Family Guy when they talked about how Laura Bush killed a guy.

Yep, Laura Bush killed a guy.

[GreyArea]

Zaphod and others have pointed out that many of Beck's followers will stand by him anyway. He's a good man because they believe in him, and since they certainly wouldn't believe in a bad man he must be good. It's tribal, not rational.

How do we break through that emotional tie in favor of evidence and reason? How do we get people to demand from their guy what they automatically demand from the creators of this meme?

Can you make feelers think?

[deRoy]

Starting a rumor like this is one of the worst things you can do to another person. It's like a high school girl getting pissed at a male instructor for flunking her and crying rape. Even when if the instructor is proven innocent, he has to quit the job and he will have a stigma attached to his good name forever more.

People that start **** like this should punished to the full extent of the law. It is libel, defamation of character in it's worst form. If I was Glenn I would start making anonymous calls to the Child Protective Agency making claims of child abuse about any of those jerkwads that have kids.

I keep hearing people say, "Well, why doesn't he release documents...or whatever to prove his innocence. That's like trying to disprove a negative and it's not up to him to prove anything. It is up to the court to do so.

I think whoever started this had better come up with some concrete evidence or they are going to get sued in ways they don't even exist.

Like him or not, imagine yourself being accused of being a pedophile and having to try to prove you're not.

I'll take missed the whole bloody point for 500 Alex.

[Sporanox]

Er, Beck debunked the FEMA camps. He brought a Popular Mechanics guy on the show due to their expertise in attacking Truthers. In the clip cited, he even mentions the camps were built under Bush.

Plus, unlike what some have said on this thread, he is NOT a birther.

Do I particularly like Beck? Not exactly. As someone else put it, he seems rather credulous in regards to his own pet hyperbole about the Obama Administration. But he does us a service in some says, too; he brought down Van Jones.

[Whiplash]

I'll take missed the whole bloody point for 500 Alex.


Which demonstrates, aptly, exactly how many people will react to this thing.. which further demonstrates it's failure as any useful technique.

I'll be the first to admit the birthers and most insane Beck loyalists are morons. And so they will be even less likely to get it.

(Beck not being a birther would be news to me. However, I want to point out I was refering to the people who listen to him in the above sentence, not he himself).

[Sporanox]

Which demonstrates, aptly, exactly how many people will react to this thing.. which further demonstrates it's failure as any useful technique.

I'll be the first to admit the birthers and most insane Beck loyalists are morons. And so they will be even less likely to get it.

Absolutely. One of the major problems with the reactionary right is the profound lack of a functioning sense of humor. IMO, why The Daily Show rules the political comedy spectrum.

This isn't to say I think that the Beck satire is funny - it doesn't really go over well with me.

Beck not being a birther would be news to me.

As well as to a good number on the left, sadly enough.

[XxDeadlyNinjaxX]

There is no proof that he did.:eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Darkieus]

There isn't any proof that he didn't do it either!

[Whiplash]

Which would be a laughable statement on such a notably skeptical community as this forum, in every possible topic of discussion.. except of course politics. Then critical thinking and logic suddenly go straight out the window.

Don't get me wrong, I realize it's meant as satire. But it's a bad point. It's a bad move. That should be flipping obvious by now. But some stubbornly refuse to agree.

[Infoexcavator]

This thread is a mockery of the the James Randi Educational Foundation. I guess it is moving from skepticism to spreading rumours and punishing haters of Obama.

[Praktik]

It's hilarious. But then again my generation is filled with pretty disgusting humour so I understand if the elders posting in this thread don't get it.

lol @ "making a mockery of JREF" - in my opinion this little exercise is designed to stimulate critical thinking, because what it's really making fun of is the facile "connect the dots" thinking of conspiracy mongers.

[dropzone]

Wow,

It's only a matter of time before this page inspires some News Anchor to bring this up, even if it's lost on them.

It's like Family Guy when they talked about how Laura Bush killed a guy.

Yep, Laura Bush killed a guy.Except the MSM didn't pick up on it, even though it was true. I learned about it from the National Enquirer. :boggled:

[Infoexcavator]

Olbermann had the inventor of this rumour as one of his worst person in the world.

[AWPrime]

Olbermann had the inventor of this rumour as one of his worst person in the world.
Interesting, link please.

[Foolmewunz]

Praktik/Third Eye Open,

I don't find anything offensive about the joke. In fact, I find it funny and I find the righteous indignation of the people objecting to be even funnier.

I do take offense at your ageist slants, though. I just turned sixty. And there are a couple of truly sick (humor-wise) old geezers on these boards, so please stop with that silly-arsed "oh, us cool young guys get it" nonsense. I was cool before you was born, kids!

[Infoexcavator]

Interesting, link please.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vf4oBj93iqk number two.

[Praktik]

Praktik/Third Eye Open,

I don't find anything offensive about the joke. In fact, I find it funny and I find the righteous indignation of the people objecting to be even funnier.

I do take offense at your ageist slants, though. I just turned sixty. And there are a couple of truly sick (humor-wise) old geezers on these boards, so please stop with that silly-arsed "oh, us cool young guys get it" nonsense. I was cool before you was born, kids!

Hehe - well i guess you're not all crotchety then...;)

[pchams]

Hehe - well i guess you're not all crotchety then...;)
There's no evidence that some of us older guys are much cooler than you young whipper snappers will ever be, but I'm pretty sure that's the case. ;)

[Foolmewunz]

And.... Get off my lawn!


:spjimlad:

[Praktik]

And.... Get off my lawn!


:spjimlad:

But you're gonna give me the ball back, right - right??

[Foolmewunz]

Ball? Ball? Is that all you kids think of; playing ball?

Why when I was your age, we had to start our rumors by hand. Didn't have no fancy intertubes nor worldwebwides, I'll tell you! If we wanted to slander a man, we had to put some legwork in.

Do you think Glenn Beck, who had to walk two miles to the courhouse - in the snow, uphill both ways, to clear his name of this malicious charge.... Do you think Glenn Beck has time to think of just playing ball?

[Ohnoes]

LOL I just saw this yesterday and this thread came to mind. Even if it is made up, this doesn't help his case!:D

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