At last. 'Proof' that water's energy can be changed

[popsy]

Perhaps homeopathy is right afterall? Maybe water *really* does have a memory. From this website,

http://www.geocities.com/undergsci/pyramidenergy.html

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Water Alteration
Water is not "purified" under a pyramid, as the claims say, however it is chemically altered. Water is a polar molecule. The hydrogen bond is what allows this change to occur. The orgone energy produced by the pyramid polarizes, lines up, or somehow alters the hydrogen bond. This alters not only the taste of the water but some of it's chemical properties as well. Water that is "charged" with pyramid/orgone energy can pass on the energy to other things. Watering plants with pyramid water will help them grow better. Some people drink pyramid water too. If you would like to made lots of pyramid water to drink, put a gallon or less of water under a large frame pyramid (6ft base) and leave it for a hour. Treating small amounts of water under a small or large pyramid, takes only 10 to 15 minutes.
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Where do people get these notions. Someone somewhere had to think this up. How did they do it? And then - how do they believe it?

Changing water chemistry is, of course, not the only thing a pyramid can do. Well yeah, it can make a nifty burial chamber, but even more than that. Sharpen razor blades, ripen fruit. I actually knew a guy that put his razor blades under a pyramid, and slept under a large pyramid. He was still a jerk, even after all that.:p

[geni]

It seems to be the latest fasion to combine to woowoo belifes. Flicking through the sit I think the prson behind it belives. Does the sit have an email address? I think this one might be preparded to go for the million dollars.

[Zep]

Hmmmm... I thought pyramids were supposed to KEEP blades sharp once they were sharp, and STOP fruit from rotting, i.e. PREVENT ripening.

Oh, well. Backflips-R-us...

[popsy]

Originally posted by Zep
Hmmmm... I thought pyramids were supposed to KEEP blades sharp once they were sharp, and STOP fruit from rotting, i.e. PREVENT ripening.

Oh, well. Backflips-R-us...


Uh oh, I think I mis-spoke about ripening fruit. I shouldn't claim more actions than there are. It's wondrous enough without empty claims. ;) It apparently will increase the growth rate of plants, though, so that's kinda like ripening fruit. :D

[UnrepentantSinner]

This whole concept seems soooooo 1970s. Am I supposed to have a lava lamp on while "charging" the water under the pyramid? Should the Saturday Night Live soundtrack be playing in the background? Will eating fondue, reading Chariots of the Gods and watching The Late Great Planet Earth improve the "charging" effect?

[Nyarlathotep]

Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner
This whole concept seems soooooo 1970s. Am I supposed to have a lava lamp on while "charging" the water under the pyramid? Should the Saturday Night Live soundtrack be playing in the background? Will eating fondue, reading Chariots of the Gods and watching The Late Great Planet Earth improve the "charging" effect?

Only if you are wearing one of those big gaudy disco medallions.

It wouldn't hurt to have a pet rock nearby, either.

[Zep]

Originally posted by popsy

Uh oh, I think I mis-spoke about ripening fruit. I shouldn't claim more actions than there are. It's wondrous enough without empty claims. ;) It apparently will increase the growth rate of plants, though, so that's kinda like ripening fruit. :D As a comment on the original claims by the "Pyramidz" people....bollocks.

[xouper]

popsy: From this website,

http://www.geocities.com/undergsci/pyramidenergy.html

Where do people get these notions. Someone somewhere had to think this up. How did they do it? And then - how do they believe it?Justin Szymanek seems to invite questions, with this comment from that webpage:

I can be reached on the Hameltech discussion group (http://www.egroups.com/group/hameltech/). Please post questions on the list, and not to my personal address. This way everyone benefits from the discussion. But if you go to that message board, you will see the following warning:

NOTICE: Trouble makers will not be tolerated and will be banned. If you don't believe this stuff then don't join. Don't waste our time and we won't waste yours.An obvious sign of a crackpot is that they do not welcome legitimate scientific criticism. I'm guessing the people on that board don't want to discover that they are wasting their own time. On the other hand, isn't that what hobbies are all about?

Nonetheless, I can't help wondering what would happen if someone with proper scientific training and experience were to help steer their scientific "investigations" in the right direction, to coach them on the scientific method, how to design and conduct proper experiments, etc. If such a scientific coach approached it as a potential learning situation without being judgmental about their beliefs, would they be receptive to adjusting their beliefs in accordance with proper experimental results? Or would they resent that as an intrusion on their hobby?

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

All the myriad claims for pyramid effects can be explained by one simple theory: The pyramid does just the right thing to the objects placed in it.

~~ Paul

[Suezoled]

Originally posted by Paul C. Anagnostopoulos
All the myriad claims for pyramid effects can be explained by one simple theory: The pyramid does just the right thing to the objects placed in it.

~~ Paul

Well, I guess so. You're the guy with the pyramid on your head, after all. :D

[Agammamon]

It's amazing how science advances our knowledge. The Egyptians just used pyramids to bury their dead and bankrupt the country and today we know how to use them for razor blades, fruit, spacecraft landing beacons, water thingammies.

[BTox]

Originally posted by xouper

But if you go to that message board, you will see the following warning:

quote:
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NOTICE: Trouble makers will not be tolerated and will be banned. If you don't believe this stuff then don't join. Don't waste our time and we won't waste yours.
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An obvious sign of a crackpot is that they do not welcome legitimate scientific criticism. I'm guessing the people on that board don't want to discover that they are wasting their own time. On the other hand, isn't that what hobbies are all about?



That seems to be a common policy on most woowoo sites. At least the ones I've been banned from. :D

[Grommitt]

Originally posted by popsy
Where do people get these notions. Someone somewhere had to think this up. How did they do it? And then - how do they believe it? They use the scientific method, which is obvious in this quote: Experiments with lightening fusing granite was not successful; the granite explodes. This may be due to the amount of material I was using.

[pupdog]

From popsy:This alters not only the taste of the water but some of it's chemical properties as well.
Aha!--This means it would be fairly easy to build a water-based sensor that could measure the energy distribution around the pyramid. Wonder why nobody's already done it?

[Iamme]

Where is a chemist when you need one? How can you 'alter' the hydrogen part...and still have water, as water? If h-2 O was changed to H-1 O, or H-3 O..it wouldn't be water, right? Nothing was said about the altering of the minerals in the water. That would be one thing. But altering the hydrogen? I'd like to see that one explained.

[Zep]

Originally posted by Zep
As a comment on the original claims by the "Pyramidz" people....bollocks. Let me rephrase that sentence, as, on rereading, it may sound like a rude comment towards popsy, which it certainly isn't.

{clears throat, stands up to podium...}

"Here is my comment in reference to the original claims by the "Pyramidz" people: Bollocks."

[BTox]

Originally posted by Iamme
Where is a chemist when you need one? How can you 'alter' the hydrogen part...and still have water, as water? If h-2 O was changed to H-1 O, or H-3 O..it wouldn't be water, right? Nothing was said about the altering of the minerals in the water. That would be one thing. But altering the hydrogen? I'd like to see that one explained.

You actually read the link? I stopped after the words: Water alteration" ;)

[scribble]

Originally posted by Iamme
Where is a chemist when you need one? How can you 'alter' the hydrogen part...and still have water, as water? If h-2 O was changed to H-1 O, or H-3 O..it wouldn't be water, right? Nothing was said about the altering of the minerals in the water. That would be one thing. But altering the hydrogen? I'd like to see that one explained.

Actually, they're referring to hydrogen bonding, which is the thing that - if I recall from high school chem class - accounts for water's "skin" and the fact that ice is less dense than water, among other things. The existence of a weak hydrogen bond in water is a fact, and a very important one. The rest of this is nonsense. Heheh... They like to put in just enough science so it sounds more legit.

[Vorticity]

Originally posted by popsy
Perhaps homeopathy is right afterall? Maybe water *really* does have a memory.

Water does have a memory. It's just a very short one: short range order in liquid water exists, and has a lifetime of about 10^-12 seconds. Better drink quickly!
Of course, that has nothing to do with the homeopathic claim of water remembering the properties of substances it comes in contact with... :)

[geni]

Originally posted by Iamme
Where is a chemist when you need one? How can you 'alter' the hydrogen part...and still have water, as water? If h-2 O was changed to H-1 O, or H-3 O..it wouldn't be water, right? Nothing was said about the altering of the minerals in the water. That would be one thing. But altering the hydrogen? I'd like to see that one explained.

Pure water consists of H2O, H3O+ and OH-. The H3O+ and OH- exist at concetrations of about 10^-14 moles per liter (ie not very much),

[popsy]

Originally posted by Zep
Let me rephrase that sentence, as, on rereading, it may sound like a rude comment towards popsy, which it certainly isn't.

{clears throat, stands up to podium...}

"Here is my comment in reference to the original claims by the "Pyramidz" people: Bollocks."


I thought your original comment was clear. I knew no one would dare to say that any of MY comments were bollocks. Oh wait a minute. Would "bullsh!t" kinda mean the same thing? :p It sounds a bit familiar. :D

[phildonnia]

Maybe the pyramid converts Hydrogen Hydroxide to Dihydrogen Monoxide?

[Powa]

Originally posted by phildonnia
Maybe the pyramid converts Hydrogen Hydroxide to Dihydrogen Monoxide? I think you'd better reread and edit this :D

[phildonnia]

Originally posted by Powa
I think you'd better reread and edit this :D

Sorry, did I omit a smiley?

[Iamme]

Interesting, scribble and geni.

[Powa]

Originally posted by phildonnia


Sorry, did I omit a smiley?

No. I think I'd better reread that. What I thought was a mistake really wasn't. My bad. A thousand apologies. :(

It was late for me, ok (in my time zone).


Edited for spelling (now it's too early):rolleyes:

[Teetop]

Now--if someone could use pyramid energy to transform oily fluid into gold, they might have something.

[Iamme]

Teetop---but they can compress carbon into diamonds.

[Teetop]

Teetop---but they can compress carbon into diamonds.

Ah---but they can't do it with pyramid energy---

the web site stated they can turn gold into an oily substance--I was merely wondering if they could turn it back into gold.

[phildonnia]

Originally posted by Teetop
Teetop---but they can compress carbon into diamonds.

Ah---but they can't do it with pyramid energy---

the web site stated they can turn gold into an oily substance--I was merely wondering if they could turn it back into gold.

Humans have been turning oily substances into gold for over a century. :)

[J Coplen]

Rather silly.