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BeAChooser
5th September 2009, 03:51 PM
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=33416
In the dark days of the Iraq war, when valiant U.S. troops faced down multiple enemies who obeyed no rules of war, President Bush never panicked. Even when his approval rating dropped below 35 percent, the president slugged it out for better or worse, depending on your worldview.
The same cannot be said of President Obama, who is now reeling under the pressure of his collapsing health care vision. The latest evidence of this was a posting on the "Organizing for America" website, which was set up by Obama in January. The message, since scrubbed from the website, said this in part:
"Stay at home for (Health Care Organizing Day). Call your senators that day (September 11) ... as we fight back against our own right-wing domestic terrorists who are subverting the American democratic process, whipped to a frenzy by their Fox propaganda network ceaselessly re-seizing power for their treacherous leaders."
Again, that posting came from an organization created by President Obama. And even though somebody saw the insanity of the words and removed them, if this isn't panic, nothing is.
Freaking unbelievable! :D
BeAChooser
5th September 2009, 03:54 PM
http://www.ocregister.com/articles/president-obama-saddam-2552741-time-one
Mark Steyn: Pledging allegiance to our beloved Obama
You gotta love Mark Stein. :D
BeAChooser
5th September 2009, 04:01 PM
http://www.adn.com/opinion/compass/story/919242.html
'Public option' as unhealthy as Medicare
... snip ...
This issue is illustrated by the experience of the Mayo Clinic, an organization routinely praised by the Obama Administration as an example of health care done right because of that organization's focus on improving patient health rather than on volume of services delivered and billed.
A June 23 Time Magazine article on cost-effective care said: "Last year, Mayo lost $840 million on $1.7 billion in Medicare work. It compensated by charging private insurers a premium for the Mayo name, but (health plans are) starting to balk."
:D
corplinx
5th September 2009, 04:02 PM
So are you against the government option altogether or just as it is implemented?
BeAChooser
5th September 2009, 04:03 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9GMKK_fWKg&feature=email
ABC's John Stossel Destroys/Pulverizes/Crushes Obama's anti-American 'Health Care' Plan
Hmmmm. He does indeed. :D
corplinx
5th September 2009, 04:07 PM
I had a classroom or two as I was growing up that had pictures of the current president on the walls. And I didn't grow up in a third world basket case country.
I think he had a good point about the overexposure, bad or no point on the actual speech to kids.
Darat
5th September 2009, 04:13 PM
BeAChooser - I've merged the various "Obama" threads you started in the last 15 minutes, do not "flood" the Forum.
corplinx
5th September 2009, 04:16 PM
You tricked me into reading a story by Bill O'Reilly....
Bill has a habit... of pointing out comments on web sites and pretending they are content. Unless I see a screenshot confirming that statement, I will assume it was not actual content.
Did some digging, there is the original source for this:
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/01/obamas-team-crosses-the-rhetorical-line/
So it appeared through an embedded link on Barack's website, and was removed when it was pointed out. It was user generated. Nothing to see here......
BeAChooser
5th September 2009, 04:22 PM
Did some digging, there is the original source for this:
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/01/obamas-team-crosses-the-rhetorical-line/
From the original source:
This was not an ill-advised comment on a blog, but rather an organizing activity that used hateful language to describe the opposition. The President and his political advisors should immediately denounce this language and continue to remove it from their website. And they should immediately discontinue the use of the ‘Organizing for America’ website to remove any suspicion that the President shares these views. There is a time for campaigning, and a time for leading. Now is the time for the President to lead.
Ladewig
6th September 2009, 05:52 AM
From the original source:
And from two paragraphs ahead of what you quoted:
(Update #2: Several readers have asked us whether this posting on barackobama.com was “user-generated” rather than a staff posting. From what we can tell, this may have been the case.
I'm going to pretend that the update did not appear until after you quoted that site because if it had been there while you quoted the last paragraph that you would make you ridiculously dishonest.
T.A.M.
6th September 2009, 08:05 AM
Here is a question. Did the left have as much hatred for Bush when he was only 8 months in office? If they did, then holy **** you guys hate it when the other group wins.
TAM:)
Cicero
6th September 2009, 08:18 AM
Here is a question. Did the left have as much hatred for Bush when he was only 8 months in office? If they did, then holy **** you guys hate it when the other group wins.
TAM:)
What a soft ball question. Of course they did. The only reason some of the hatred subsided momentarily was on that eighth month in office, 9/11 occurred.
T.A.M.
6th September 2009, 09:30 AM
What a soft ball question. Of course they did. The only reason some of the hatred subsided momentarily was on that eighth month in office, 9/11 occurred.
It wasn't meant to be hard or soft. I did not follow American Politics in 2000, 2001, so I was wondering the vitriol and lies were as severe and common from the left then, as they are from the right now...that is all.
TAM:)
corplinx
6th September 2009, 10:47 AM
It wasn't meant to be hard or soft. I did not follow American Politics in 2000, 2001, so I was wondering the vitriol and lies were as severe and common from the left then, as they are from the right now...that is all.
TAM:)
Like 2 days after inauguration there was a big rally in front of the white house about how Bush was already raping the environment.
Yes, Americans are parti-tarded (tm).
T.A.M.
6th September 2009, 04:20 PM
Like 2 days after inauguration there was a big rally in front of the white house about how Bush was already raping the environment.
Yes, Americans are parti-tarded (tm).
parti-tarded...I like it.
TAM:)
Brainster
6th September 2009, 06:05 PM
Here is a question. Did the left have as much hatred for Bush when he was only 8 months in office? If they did, then holy **** you guys hate it when the other group wins.
TAM:)
Oh, believe me, they had more hatred for Bush. It's not even close.
Tricky
6th September 2009, 06:38 PM
Here is a question. Did the left have as much hatred for Bush when he was only 8 months in office? If they did, then holy **** you guys hate it when the other group wins.
TAM:)
Oh, believe me, they had more hatred for Bush. It's not even close.
Oh, I think it's quite close. However, a lot of the "hatred" for Bush was because of the disputed election. however, after nine months, Bush was on top of the polls, thanks to 9/11. He got as big a break, approval-wise, as a president could possibly get. The trump card. America is attacked. Rally behind the President. That alone was enough to carry him to a second term.
The reasons for the hatred for Obama is harder to pinpoint. He had a clear win. He hasn't had any cronies who crashed their companies. Indeed, it seems that the disillusionment with Obama is a combination of well-orchestrated attacks on health care, and the fact that the economy still hasn't made a miraculous turnaround.
But really, these things don't matter that much to the next election. The memories of American voters are so short that things that happen in the first year of the administration (unless they are truly cataclysmic, like 9/11) will probably not matter in November of 2012. After all, the thing that was one of the greatest factors in the margin of victory by Obama (Though I think he would have won anyway) was the tanking of the economy just a few weeks before the election.
BeAChooser
6th September 2009, 10:19 PM
he reasons for the hatred for Obama is harder to pinpoint.
Really?
http://blog.cleveland.com/nationworld_impact/2009/02/large_20090226_BUDGET_deficit.jpg
http://zdavatz.files.wordpress.com/2009/03/bush_deficit_vs_obama_deficit_in_pictures_2.jpeg
BeAChooser
6th September 2009, 11:40 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1211495/No-10-turns-Obama-Clinton-criticising-decision-release-Lockerbie-bomber.html
President Obama and the US Secretary of State fuelled a fierce American backlash against Britain, claiming Abdelbaset Al Megrahi should have been forced to serve out his jail sentence in Scotland – but a senior Whitehall aide said their reaction was ‘disingenuous’.
British officials claim Mr Obama and Mrs Clinton were kept informed at all stages of discussions concerning Megrahi’s return.
... snip ...
‘The US was kept fully in touch about everything that was going on with regard to Britain’s discussions with Libya in recent years and about Megrahi,’ said the Whitehall aide.
‘We would never do anything about Lockerbie without discussing it with the US. It is disingenuous of them to act as though Megrahi’s return was out of the blue.
Oh ... don't tell me Obama and Hillary are lying to us again. Why am I not surprised. :D
Skeptic
7th September 2009, 12:26 AM
Indeed, it seems that the disillusionment with Obama is a combination of well-orchestrated attacks on health care, and the fact that the economy still hasn't made a miraculous turnaround.
(Sigh) sounds familiar. We've heard the exact same claims -- "unfair well-orchestrated attacks on Bush's plan for [insert here]", "it's just because the war in Iraq hadn't made a miraculous turnaround" -- as the reasons for hating Bush.
But really, these things don't matter that much to the next election. The memories of American voters are so short that things that happen in the first year of the administration (unless they are truly cataclysmic, like 9/11) will probably not matter in November of 2012.
Indeed.
jimbob
7th September 2009, 10:04 AM
You tricked me into reading a story by Bill O'Reilly....
Bill has a habit... of pointing out comments on web sites and pretending they are content. Unless I see a screenshot confirming that statement, I will assume it was not actual content.
Did some digging, there is the original source for this:
http://blog.heritage.org/2009/09/01/obamas-team-crosses-the-rhetorical-line/
So it appeared through an embedded link on Barack's website, and was removed when it was pointed out. It was user generated. Nothing to see here......
So... following the same logic, James Randi must be a pretty wierd right-wing nutcase, because there are a lot of "eccentric" comments on this forum?
ETA: :D
JoeTheJuggler
7th September 2009, 10:57 AM
(Sigh) sounds familiar. We've heard the exact same claims -- "unfair well-orchestrated attacks on Bush's plan for [insert here]", "it's just because the war in Iraq hadn't made a miraculous turnaround" -- as the reasons for hating Bush.
The very significant difference is that Bush caused the Iraq war, but Obama didn't cause the recession.
T.A.M.
7th September 2009, 11:09 AM
The very significant difference is that Bush caused the Iraq war, but Obama didn't cause the recession.
No apparently Obama-hatred is via inheritance rather than incompetence.
TAM:)
GreNME
8th September 2009, 06:09 AM
(Sigh) sounds familiar. We've heard the exact same claims -- "unfair well-orchestrated attacks on Bush's plan for [insert here]", "it's just because the war in Iraq hadn't made a miraculous turnaround" -- as the reasons for hating Bush.
http://image.grenme.com/thread/broken1.png
The image hosting is mine, with props to IDrewThis.Org (http://idrewthis.org/) for the visual entertainment.
Gotta love the cognitive dissonance of the Right when they rewrite history.
timhau
8th September 2009, 11:50 AM
<stuff>
Hey, don't I know you? Didn't you used to date that Robinson chick, Michelle? She was a babe. I wonder what she's doing now.
BeAChooser
23rd October 2009, 09:59 AM
The real Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UErR7i2onW0&feature=player_embedded
7 Lies In Under 2 Minutes
NWO Sentryman
23rd October 2009, 02:16 PM
The real Obama:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UErR7i2onW0&feature=player_embedded
OMGz! Nekromansy!:zombie:
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