Hello baby, goodbye chemicals

[blutoski]

Article is an interview with the producer (director?) of an upcoming film: [Hello baby, goodbye chemicals (http://www.theglobeandmail.com/life/family-and-relationships/hello-baby-goodbye-chemicals/article1278030/)]

Excerpt:Filmmaker Min Sook Lee documents her quest to avoid environmental toxins and still lead a normal life

[Cainkane1]

My best friends wife got pregnant and she wouldn't use asperin, or caffein. Noo smoking around her etc. Baby was healthy.

[Eos of the Eons]

Uh huh. This move to avoid toxins is all good if people avoid smoking and even caffeine (I did when I was pg), but if these people think they are going to avoid all chemicals/supposed toxins...

I hope they know how much aluminum is in breast milk before they say any amount is not safe.

Someone needs to notify this maroon that "organic" food is NOT toxin free:

"The toxicological significance of exposures to synthetic chemicals is
examined in the context of exposures to naturally occurring chemicals. We
calculate that 99.99% (by weight) of the pesticides in the American diet are
chemicals that plants produce to defend themselves. Only 52 natural
pesticides have been tested in high-dose animal cancer tests, and about half
(27) are rodent carcinogens; these 27 are shown to be present in many common
foods. We conclude that natural and synthetic chemicals are equally likely
to be positive in animal cancer tests. We also conclude that at the low
doses of most human exposures the comparative hazards of synthetic pesticide
residues are insignificant."
http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=54831 (mhtml:{297AE225-6626-4556-B5E0-55A8883E3CEF}mid://00000150/!x-usc:http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=54831)

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

Hey, I agree with her. I think we should avoid toxins.

That is, chemicals that are actually toxic at the levels we ingest.

~~ Paul

[Safe-Keeper]

Someone needs to notify this maroon that "organic" food is NOT toxin free:But... but... but... it's natural!

So's a lot of conventional medicine and farming methods? Oh... but it's still controlled by greedy corporations!

Organic farming and altmed are giant corporations, too? But organic and natural stuff is still chemicals!

...what do you mean, everything is a chemical:confused:?

[Madalch]

Too bad nobody intelligent is commenting on the globe and mail website- just the usual bunch of woos with phobias about teh eevil chimicals which will kill us all....

[Eos of the Eons]

I kind of get an evil enjoyment out of watching those people try to avoid "toxins". Them trying to buy organic, but knowing the toxins they are ingesting via the microbes all over the organic food (including budding fungus) and the plant toxins released by trying to fight off said microbes. Fungal toxins leech deep into plants, much deeper than their hyphae. A lot of people are allergic to fungus too.

I munch my irridated crunchy mold free carrots quite gleefully as I watch them pick through mushy vegetation. I'm allergic to mold, and I don't want it on my food.

I also noted with interest the "natural honey" craze some years back. A bunch of warnings came out in the 80s about kids under two dying from botulism poisoning. But honey is supposed to be an antibiotic...

Natural selection at work. Not sure if I care anymore.

[tesscaline]

I also noted with interest the "natural honey" craze some years back. A bunch of warnings came out in the 80s about kids under two dying from botulism poisoning. But honey is supposed to be an antibiotic...

Natural selection at work. Not sure if I care anymore.Just as an aside -- It doesn't matter if honey is an antibiotic when it comes to botulism. The thing that kills children under two is ingesting either the toxin that is a bi-product from active spores (and it really is a toxin -- lethal at 75ng, iirc) which can remain even after the active spores are gone, or ingesting inactive spores which then activate in the low pH of a baby's stomach and produce the toxin. Antibiotics can't combat the toxin, or the inactive spores. Especially not honey, which only works as a topical sort of treatment outside a body...

[Eos of the Eons]

Exactly. But you won't see that explanation on altie sites:
http://www.brighthub.com/health/alternative-medicine/articles/22909.aspx

"Raw honey is exceptionally effective internally against bacteria and parasites.

http://www.about-antibiotics.info/The_healing_power_of_honey_From_burns_to_weak_bone s,_raw_honey_can_hel.php

BABY'S BOTTLE - Four teaspoons of honey to a baby's bottle of water is an excellent pacifier and multivitamin additive. If the baby's motions are too liquid, then reduce the honey by half a teaspoon; if too solid increase by half a teaspoon. (Caution: Don't give raw honey to babies under 1 year old; it's just too rich.) For teething, honey rubbed on a baby's gums is also a mild sedative and anesthetic.


Yeah, that's right, it's "too rich" for babies!!!

[athon]

Hey, I agree with her. I think we should avoid toxins.

That is, chemicals that are actually toxic at the levels we ingest.

~~ Paul

I don't think this woman ever heard of Paracelsus. :(

Athon

[tesscaline]

Exactly. But you won't see that explanation on altie sites:
http://www.brighthub.com/health/alternative-medicine/articles/22909.aspx

Yeah, that's right, it's "too rich" for babies!!!What on earth? Doctors specifically advise against giving honey (raw or otherwise) to children under 2 years old!