God Announces He's Going to Destroy a Community, Community Rolls to Dodge.

[LostAngeles]

This is a horrible brainwave because I keep asking Dani'El if God's going to let Cali make a saving throw against fire and brimstone.

Say we have one of those loving gods, not necessarily YHWH, but some God who's all lovey-dovey. This god decides and promises via whatever method that a community is to be destroyed for its sin.

What does God do if:

A)Everyone leaves the community.

B)Everyone but the innocents leave the community.

C)The community honestly repents.

[SphereGuy]

I would think

A)God still destroys the community symbolically to show he meant it or he individually destroys all those who left, after all, it's the people who make a community. Reminds me of the Final Destination series.

B)Same as A) but in this case the innocents are sacrificed to make the rest feel guilty.

C)God spares the community as a lesson to all.

I always question the "whole" community anyway. I mean, Vegas is known as Sin City and I can see it being a target for some god but surely there are good people in Vegas doing good deeds. And babies. Guess I have trouble seeing absolutes.

However, if a god's prophets announced that Vegas was to wiped out and a giant hand appeared on the moon and shot out a lightning bolt 100 miles wide leveling Vegas and the desert around it, well, I may be inclined to re-think my position on theology.

By the way, when someone says "God will wipe out this area cause it's full of sin" and it doesn't happen, the whole "well, there was an innocent there" or "someone repented" is a great cop-out.

[Dancing David]

I sthis the same God that thought it was cool for Lot to turn his virgin daughters over to the crowd?

BAH, Kali will eat his mush for brains.

[wollery]

Community rolls a 5 and fails dodge.

[arthwollipot]

Community rolls a 5 and fails dodge.What was the difficulty?

[LordoftheLeftHand]

Can I abort to dive for cover?

[Monster Machine]

Ah... Doesn't the all knowing god already know the people won't flee?

Monster

[Marduk]

Say we have one of those loving gods, not necessarily YHWH, but some God who's all lovey-dovey.
oooh
Nominate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marduk
never harmed anyone except evil Gods, his good standing and character is testified by followers of the flood god, who think hes a prototype Satan
;)

your hypothesis would fall flat, he doesn't destroy innocents under any circumstances

[tsig]

oooh
Nominate
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marduk
never harmed anyone except evil Gods, his good standing and character is testified by followers of the flood god, who think hes a prototype Satan
;)

your hypothesis would fall flat, he doesn't destroy innocents under any circumstances

But of course there are no innocents. We have all sinned and fell short of some god's laws somewhere so we all deserve to be burned, tortured or whatever the god had in mind for the sinners.

[xXMoshtradamusXx]

What was the difficulty?

Hand of God (AoE 100 miles)-Effect-Everyone within AoE is eliminated through horrible, painful means. DC 30 Religion check to dodge. +70 DC if you don't have the following objects. Promise Ring (+10 to Religion, -5 to Charisma/Coolness), Bible (King James Version), RaptureReady account (Must be active user), and spiritual superiority (Spiritual Superiority-At-Will-Allows any member of a Religion to add +10 to any Charisma/Religion check. Spiritual Superioty surrounds the user in a field of pure commitment and confidence of Divine Intervention in their actions. It doesn't have to be true, they just have to believe it in order to gain the confidence. If they are a minority they can combine this with the Daily Power-Persecution to double this spells effect.)
All Infidels (Non-religious or members of other religion) must make a DC 100 check to survive.)
To use Hand of God one must meet the following requirements-Be Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent. (See Epic Class, Divine Being At-Will powers.) Hand of God requires a DC 100 Religion check to use and upon that you must roll 5 Natural 20's in a Row. Warning this Power is nearly impossible.

Geez that took too long to write. =D

[hamelekim]

I sthis the same God that thought it was cool for Lot to turn his virgin daughters over to the crowd?

BAH, Kali will eat his mush for brains.

God didn't think it was cool. That was the wrong thing for Lot to do, but he did it anyway.

Why do you assume that God supported Lot's attempting to give his daughters to be raped by the town?

[Elizabeth I]

God didn't think it was cool. That was the wrong thing for Lot to do, but he did it anyway.

Why do you assume that God supported Lot's attempting to give his daughters to be raped by the town?

Well, um, because Lot was the only man saved when Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed? Since the cities were wiped out for unrighteousness, looks like God thought Lot was pretty righteous. After all, Mrs. Lot got it in the neck just for looking back at the home where she grew up.

Duh.

[LostAngeles]

God didn't think it was cool. That was the wrong thing for Lot to do, but he did it anyway.

Why do you assume that God supported Lot's attempting to give his daughters to be raped by the town?

Because he still allowed Lot to escape the destruction of Sodom, for one. Did Lot suffer any other punishment afterwards?

Old Testament YHWH has a fairly fast turnaround on punishments for named characters.

He didn't punish the sons of Jacob who slaughtered the men of Seschem did he?

[Marduk]

But of course there are no innocents. We have all sinned and fell short of some god's laws somewhere so we all deserve to be burned, tortured or whatever the god had in mind for the sinners.

Bel Marduk didn't have those kind of laws, there were no sinners
;)

[LordoftheLeftHand]

Hand of God (AoE 100 miles)-Effect-Everyone within AoE is eliminated through horrible, painful means. DC 30 Religion check to dodge. +70 DC if you don't have the following objects. Promise Ring (+10 to Religion, -5 to Charisma/Coolness), Bible (King James Version), RaptureReady account (Must be active user), and spiritual superiority (Spiritual Superiority-At-Will-Allows any member of a Religion to add +10 to any Charisma/Religion check. Spiritual Superioty surrounds the user in a field of pure commitment and confidence of Divine Intervention in their actions. It doesn't have to be true, they just have to believe it in order to gain the confidence. If they are a minority they can combine this with the Daily Power-Persecution to double this spells effect.)
All Infidels (Non-religious or members of other religion) must make a DC 100 check to survive.)
To use Hand of God one must meet the following requirements-Be Omnipotent, Omniscient, Omnipresent. (See Epic Class, Divine Being At-Will powers.) Hand of God requires a DC 100 Religion check to use and upon that you must roll 5 Natural 20's in a Row. Warning this Power is nearly impossible.


No no no. This is the power in question:

Hand of God:
Advantages:
Killing Attack - Ranged 10d6
Area Of Effect (1 2m Areas; +1/4)
MegaScale (1m = 100 km; +1 1/2)
Personal Immunity (+1/4)
No Range Modifier (+1/2)
Limitations:
1 Recoverable Charge which Recovers every >Century (-3 1/4)
Limited Power Only works on gays and non believers (-2)
No Conscious Control (-2)
Extra Time (1 Minute, -1 1/2)
Gestures (Requires both hands; -1/2)
Incantations (-1/4)
Concentration (1/2 DCV; -1/4)

525 Active Points, 60 real cost to character.

[Cynic]

Can I go "old testament" and roll to disbelieve?

[bruto]

God didn't think it was cool. OH? What Bible is that in? It sure isn't in mine! That was the wrong thing for Lot to do, but he did it anyway. So you say, but if the scripture provides commentary, I have not seen it. Of course if you can provide chapter and verse, I will immediately concede the point.
Why do you assume that God supported Lot's attempting to give his daughters to be raped by the town?Considering that the whole story here has to do with God wiping out cities for the unrighteousness of their inhabitants, and selectively saving the righteous, it's pretty obvious that in a comparative sense, God did not much mind what Lot did. There aren't that many ways you can slice this story without concluding that at the very least, Lot's actions did not mark him as unrighteous. He got out not only alive, but without reprimand. And of course, those daughters come back into the story shortly thereafter, don't they? Those Sodomites sure know how to party.

[xXMoshtradamusXx]

No no no. This is the power in question:

Hand of God:
Advantages:
Killing Attack - Ranged 10d6
Area Of Effect (1 2m Areas; +1/4)
MegaScale (1m = 100 km; +1 1/2)
Personal Immunity (+1/4)
No Range Modifier (+1/2)
Limitations:
1 Recoverable Charge which Recovers every >Century (-3 1/4)
Limited Power Only works on gays and non believers (-2)
No Conscious Control (-2)
Extra Time (1 Minute, -1 1/2)
Gestures (Requires both hands; -1/2)
Incantations (-1/4)
Concentration (1/2 DCV; -1/4)

525 Active Points, 60 real cost to character.

Lol nice...