Australia denies residency over Down syndrome teen

[UNLoVedRebel]

Same as in Australia
Australia also denies immigration to people (PhD's actually) who have a son with Down's Syndrome because they're a "burden". Sickening.


Only so far as I know what I actually have is an expensive and inequitable contract with a private company which has some employee who, in the event of my contracting any illness more expensive than a cold, is paid to figure out a way to deny me healthcare, and this really freaks me out.
Relax. You almost certainly won't get denied health coverage. There are employees in the health insurance business who monitor fraud and they deny coverage to those trying to cheat the system. Most of the time they deny coverage to those trying to cheat the system, but once in a while they deny coverage to eligable candidates.

I don't know where you work, but most of the casinos have great health insurance. Also gov't jobs have great insurance. You have nothing to worry about.
If the government is going to pay for anything, this is the first I've heard of it.
http://dwss.nv.gov/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=96&Itemid=247
I think he meant "you" in the sense of "people other than you." Hope that clears it up. :)
Actually, you're right. But the UK gov't wouldn't pay for my medical bills if I lived there.


Split from: Gutfeld:"U.K. Doesn't Let People Die In The Street,It Lets Them Die in The Hospital" (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=153983)

[lionking]

Australia also denies immigration to people (PhD's actually) who have a son with Down's Syndrome because they're a "burden". Sickening.



Sorry:

http://www.theage.com.au/national/german-doctor-wins-visa-20081126-6hzr.html


Immigration Minister Chris Evans has just told parliament he has granted Dr Moeller and his family permanent visas.
"By law, the minister cannot intervene until the court upholds the decision," Senator Evans said.
"I received a request this morning from Dr Moeller to intervene and I have granted permanent visas.
"As minister, I can take into account all the circumstances and it was clear to me Dr Moeller was making a very valuable contribution to the community."



ETA: This, in fact, has nothing to do with health care in Australia, but is about immigration ploicy.

[UNLoVedRebel]

Sorry:
http://www.theage.com.au/national/german-doctor-wins-visa-20081126-6hzr.html
He initially got denied, which I find sickening. And I wonder if he would have been granted a visa had he not been a PhD

ETA: This, in fact, has nothing to do with health care in Australia, but is about immigration ploicy.
What immigration policy?

[lionking]

He initially got denied, which I find sickening. And I wonder if he would have been granted a visa had he not been a PhD

So you are wrong. Right.


What immigration policy?

AFAIK, every country has an immigration policy. You know, where the merits, costs and benefits of potential immigrants are assessed.

[UNLoVedRebel]

So you are wrong. Right.

No

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20081101/news_1n1denied.html
Australia denies residency over Down syndrome teen

Australia also denies immigration to people (PhD's actually) who have a son with Down's Syndrome because they're a "burden". Sickening.



AFAIK, every country has an immigration policy. You know, where the merits, costs and benefits of potential immigrants are assessed.
Their policy is to deny people immigration to people who have kids with Down's Syndrome. Sickening.

[lionking]

[quote=UNLoVedRebel;5114485]No

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20081101/news_1n1denied.html



For goodness sake, get it right. Moeller and family were allowed to stay.

And please explain what this has to do with Australia's public health system, at the risk of getting back on topic.

[UNLoVedRebel]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20081101/news_1n1denied.html



For goodness sake, get it right. Moeller and family were allowed to stay.

And please explain what this has to do with Australia's public health system, at the risk of getting back on topic.
http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20081101/news_1n1denied.html
But now Australia has rejected Dr. Bernhard Moeller's application for residency, saying Lukas does not meet the “health requirement” and would pose a burden on taxpayers for his medical care, education and other services.
Sickening.

[Darat]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20081101/news_1n1denied.html

Sickening.


What is sickening about that? I'm all for using potential health costs as part of the screening for people being allowed to immigrate to the UK, it seems a very sensible approach and I don't see where there is any moral or ethical issue.

[UnrepentantSinner]

Their policy is to deny people immigration to people who have kids with Down's Syndrome. Sickening.

Yeah, because we've always had an open door policy here in the States...

Oooops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_island#Medical_inspections).

[Darat]

Yeah, because we've always had an open door policy here in the States...

Oooops (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ellis_island#Medical_inspections).

What is even more amazing is that the medical examination was only applied to those travelling 3rd class and the like, travel first class and you were waived through, indeed probably had your personal steward help wipe away the blood you were coughing up!

[lionking]

http://www.signonsandiego.com/uniontrib/20081101/news_1n1denied.html

Sickening.


He's in Australia.

Would you have been more satisfied if the decision did not go his way?

Your attempt to paint Australia's health system as something it isn't is the thing that is sickening. Any chance of getting back on topic?

[UnrepentantSinner]

He's in Australia.

Actually, isn't that punishment enough for the poor man?

[softstuff]

It is about immigration, every potential resident is health screened before their visa is processed.

I'm not about to debate the rights or wrongs of this morally, but having been through the immigration process and having become an Australian resident I'm pretty familiar with the health requirements. I had a full medical check (pretty comprehensive) with chest x-rays before my visa was processed (I'm lucky I've already got a visa now, since with my current tumour in my leg I'd likely be denied one).

Like many countries Australia makes you jump through hoops before you can get here. You have to prove basically that you will benefit the country, that you're capable of work, fully fit, of good-standing in your community and without a criminal record.

[lionking]

Welcome softstuff. Which part of the land of plenty are you?

[softstuff]

Sunshine coast, which is currently living up to its' name! :)

[UNLoVedRebel]

Like many countries Australia makes you jump through hoops before you can get here. You have to prove basically that you will benefit the country, that you're capable of work, fully fit, of good-standing in your community and without a criminal record.

The only requirement to get into the U.S. is swimming across the Rio Bravo.

¿Puedes nadar, guey?

[lionking]

Sunshine coast, which is currently living up to its' name! :)
Dunno, it's 33 in Sydney where I am now.

[gtc]

The only requirement to get into the U.S. is swimming across the Rio Bravo.

¿Puedes nadar, guey?

That is not correct at all.

[Damien Evans]

The only requirement to get into the U.S. is swimming across the Rio Bravo.

¿Puedes nadar, guey?

By that token, the only requirement to get into Australia is catching a boat across the Timor Sea.