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Scott Sommers
21st September 2009, 06:23 AM
I know this came up before. I'm looking for the list of scientific papers that deal with the WTC collapse.

TruthersLie
21st September 2009, 07:11 AM
I know this came up before. I'm looking for the list of scientific papers that deal with the WTC collapse.

Here you go
Performance based structural fire engineering for modern building design
Rini, D., Lamont, S. 2008 Proceedings of the 2008 Structures Congress - Structures Congress 2008: Crossing the Borders 314

Engineering perspective of the collapse of WTC-I
Irfanoglu, A., Hoffmann, C.M. 2008 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 22 (1),

Collapse of towers as applied to September 11 events
Cherepanov, G.P. 2008 Materials Science 44 (4), pp. 489-499

Modeling pre-evacuation delay by occupants in World Trade Center Towers 1 and 2 on September 11, 2001
Kuligowski, E.D., Mileti, D.S. 2008 Fire Safety Journal

World Trade Center building disaster: Stimulus for innovations
Kodur, V.K.R. 2008 Indian Concrete Journal 82 (1), pp. 23-31

A collective undergraduate class project reconstructing the September 11, 2001 world trade center fire
Marshall, A., Quintiere, J. 2007 ASEE Annual Conference and Exposition, Conference Proceedings

"A new era": The limits of engineering expertise in a post-9/11 world
Pfatteicher, S.K.A. 2007 International Symposium on Technology and Society, Proceedings, art. no. 4362228

Progressive collapse of the World Trade Center: Simple analysis
Seffen, K.A. 2008 Journal of Engineering Mechanics 134 (2), pp. 125-132

Scale modeling of the 96th floor of world trade center tower 1
Wang, M., Chang, P., Quintiere, J., Marshall, A. 2007 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 21 (6), pp. 414-421

Failure of welded floor truss connections from the exterior wall during collapse of the world trade center towers
Banovic, S.W., Siewert, T.A. 2007 Welding Journal (Miami, Fla) 86 (9), pp. 263-s-272-s

The collapse of the world trade center towers: A metallurgist's view
Gayle, F.W. 2007 MRS Bulletin 32 (9), pp. 710-716

Building code changes reflect world trade center investigation
Hansen, B. 2007 Civil Engineering 77 (9), pp. 22+24-25

Fire load in a steel building design
Razdolsky, L. 2008 Proceedings of the 4th International Structural Engineering and Construction Conference, ISEC-4 - Innovations in Structural Engineering and Construction 2, pp. 1163-1167

The structural steel of the World Trade Center towers
Gayle, F.W., Banovic, S.W., Foecke, T., Fields, R.J., Luecke, W.E., McColskey, J.D., McCown, C., Siewert, T.A. 2006 Journal of Failure Analysis and Prevention 6 (5), pp. 5-8

Progressive collapse of structures: Annotated bibliography and comparison of codes and standards
Mohamed, O.A. 2006 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 20 (4), art. no. 001604QCF, pp. 418-425

A simple model of the World Trade Center fireball dynamics
Baum, H.R., Rehm, R.G., Quintiere, J.G. 2005 Proceedings of the Combustion Institute 30 II, pp. 2247-2254

Impact of the Boeing 767 Aircraft into the World Trade Center
Karim, M.R., Hoo Fatt, M.S. 2005 Journal of Engineering Mechanics 131 (10), pp. 1066-1072

High-fidelity simulation of large-scale structures
Hoffmann, C., Sameh, A., Grama, A. 2005 Lecture Notes in Computer Science 3515 (II), pp. 664-671

Collapses of the world trade center towers
[No author name available] 2005 Indian Concrete Journal 79 (8), pp. 11-16

Industry updates: Fireproofing, staircases cited in World Trade Center report
[No author name available] 2005 Journal of Failure Analysis and Prevention 5 (4), pp. 34

September 11 and fracture mechanics - A retrospective
Cherepanov, G.P. 2005 International Journal of Fracture 132 (2), pp. L25-L26

Structural responses of World Trade Center under aircraft attacks
Omika, Y., Fukuzawa, E., Koshika, N., Morikawa, H., Fukuda, R. 2005 Journal of Structural Engineering 131 (1), pp. 6-15

Impact of the 2001 World Trade Center attack on critical interdependent infrastructures
Mendonça, D., Lee II, E.E., Wallace, W.A. 2004 Conference Proceedings - IEEE International Conference on Systems, Man and Cybernetics 5, pp. 4053-4058

Use of high-efficiency energy absorbing device to arrest progressive collapse of tall building
Zhou, Q., Yu, T.X. 2004 Journal of Engineering Mechanics 130 (10), pp. 1177-1187

Progressive analysis procedure for progressive collapse
Marjanishvili, S.M. 2004 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 18 (2), pp. 79-85

Lessons learned on improving resistance of buildings to terrorist attacks
Corley, W.G. 2004 Journal of Performance of Constructed Facilities 18 (2), pp. 68-78

Anatomy of a disaster: A structural investigation of the World Trade Center collapses
Abboud, N., Levy, M., Tennant, D., Mould, J., Levine, H., King, S., Ekwueme, C., (...), Hart, G. 2003 Forensic Engineering, Proceedings of the Congress, pp. 360-370

World Trade Center disaster: Damage/debris assessment
Thater, G.G., Panariello, G.F., Cuoco, D.A. 2003 Forensic Engineering, Proceedings of the Congress, pp. 383-392

How did the WTC towers collapse: A new theory
Usmani, A.S., Chung, Y.C., Torero, J.L. 2003 Fire Safety Journal 38 (6), pp. 501-533

Microstructural analysis of the steels from Buildings 7, & 1 or 2 from the World Trade Center
Biederman, R.R., Sullivan, E.M., Sisson Jr., R.D., Vander Voort, G.F. 2003 Microscopy and Microanalysis 9 (SUPPL. 2), pp. 550-551

Brannigan, F.L.
"WTC: Lightweight Steel and High-Rise Buildings"
Fire Engineering v.155, no. 4, (2002): 145-150.

Analysis of the thermal exposure in the impact areas of the World Trade Center terrorist attacks
Beyler, C., White, D., Peatross, M., Trellis, J., Li, S., Luers, A., Hopkins, D. 2003 Forensic Engineering, Proceedings of the Congress, pp. 371-382

Clifton, Charles G.
Elaboration on Aspects of the Postulated Collapse of the World Trade Centre Twin Towers
HERA: Innovation in Metals. 2001. 13 December 2001.

"Construction and Collapse Factors"
Fire Engineering v.155, no. 10, (2002): 106-108.

Bazant, Z.P., & Zhou, Y.
"Addendum to 'Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? - Simple Analysis" (pdf)
Journal of Engineering Mechanics v. 128, no. 3, (2002): 369-370.

Corbett, G.P.
"Learning and Applying the Lessons of the WTC Disaster"
Fire Engineering v.155, no. 10, (2002.): 133-135.

"Dissecting the Collapses"
Civil Engineering ASCE v. 72, no. 5, (2002): 36-46.

Eagar, T.W., & Musso, C.
"Why Did the World Trade Center Collapse? Science, Engineering, and Speculation"
JOM v. 53, no. 12, (2001): 8-12.

Federal Emergency Management Agency, Therese McAllister, report editor.
World Trade Center Building Performance Study: Data Collection, Preliminary Observations, and Recommendations
(also available on-line)

Gabrielson, T.B., Poese, M.E., & Atchley, A.A.
"Acoustic and Vibration Background Noise in the Collapsed Structure of the World Trade Center"
The Journal of Acoustical Society of America v. 113, no. 1, (2003): 45-48.

"Collapse Lessons"
Fire Engineering v. 155, no. 10, (2002): 97-103

Marechaux, T.G.
"TMS Hot Topic Symposium Examines WTC Collapse and Building Engineering"
JOM, v. 54, no. 4, (2002): 13-17.

Monahan, B.
"World Trade Center Collapse-Civil Engineering Considerations"
Practice Periodical on Structural Design and Construction v. 7, no. 3, (2002): 134-135.

Newland, D.E., & Cebon, D.
"Could the World Trade Center Have Been Modified to Prevent Its Collapse?"
Journal of Engineering Mechanics v. 128, no. 7, (2002):795-800.

National Instititue of Stamdards and Technology: Congressional and Legislative Affairs
“Learning from 9/11: Understanding the Collapse of the World Trade Center”
Statement of Dr. Arden L. Bement, Jr., before Committee of Science House of Representatives, United States Congress on March 6, 2002.

Pinsker, Lisa, M.
"Applying Geology at the World Trade Center Site"
Geotimes v. 46, no. 11, (2001).
The print copy has 3-D images.

Public Broadcasting Station (PBS)
Why the Towers Fell: A Companion Website to the Television Documentary.
NOVA (Science Programming On Air and Online)

Post, N.M.
"No Code Changes Recommended in World Trade Center Report"
ENR v. 248, no. 14, (2002): 14.

Post, N.M.
"Study Absolves Twin Tower Trusses, Fireproofing"
ENR v. 249, no. 19, (2002): 12-14.

The University of Sydney, Department of Civil Engineering
World Trade Center - Some Engineering Aspects
A resource site.

"WTC Engineers Credit Design in Saving Thousands of Lives"
ENR v. 247, no. 16, (2001): 12.

and there are the links at
http://www.ae911truth.info/tiki-index.php?page=Scholarly+Papers

and

http://www.debunking911.com/paper.htm
you need to scroll down to see 20 of their peer reviewed papers.

njslim
21st September 2009, 07:21 AM
Geez dude - like how do you get into the bathroom with all that stuff in there?

Scott Sommers
21st September 2009, 07:27 AM
Thank you muchly.

Panoply_Prefect
21st September 2009, 07:59 AM
Whatnow, none of those are Youtube videos. They must be NWO black ops false flag papers.

T.A.M.
21st September 2009, 09:04 AM
google scholar is your friend!

TAM:)

ElMondoHummus
21st September 2009, 11:10 AM
For the record, as extensive as TruthersLie's list is, it doesn't encompass all of the studies. He did a very good job at finding many of the papers, but don't any readers here walk away thinking that this list is it. There are others. For example:

Effect of fire on composite long span truss floor systems (http://www.sciencedirect.com/science?_ob=ArticleURL&_udi=B6V3T-4H2G92C-1&_user=1105409&_rdoc=1&_fmt=&_orig=search&_sort=d&_docanchor=&view=c&_searchStrId=1018829057&_rerunOrigin=scholar.google&_acct=C000051666&_version=1&_urlVersion=0&_userid=1105409&md5=fe9e39af0a31c56a03cb68e54c9c72ac), Graeme Flint, Asif Usmani, Susan Lamont, Jose Torero and Barbara Lane, "Journal of Constructional Steel Research", Volume 62, Issue 4, April 2006, Pages 303-315
Structural Response of Tall Buildings to Multiple Floor Fires (http://scitation.aip.org/getabs/servlet/GetabsServlet?prog=normal&id=JSENDH000133000012001719000001&idtype=cvips&gifs=yes), Graeme Flint, Asif Usmani, Susan Lamont, Barbara Lane, and Jose Torero, "Journal of Structural Engineering", Volume 133, Issue 12, December 2007, Pages 1719-1732
So even for just the engineering aspects of the collapse, the list that TruthersLie generated is not exhaustive. It's very well done, but it's hardly the sum total of all of them.

And at risk of deviation from the OP, we so far are limiting ourselves to only the fire and structural engineering studies and not any others in other fields applicable to the event. scott.in.taiwan is probably just interested in the research conducted on the collapse itself, but if I may expand on the general point here - the existence of rigorous studies on the event - there are studies outside the engineering ones that very much contribute to the body of knowledge about 9/11. For example, there are quite a few medical trauma and patient psychology studies (http://scholar.google.com/scholar?hl=en&q=Trauma+September+11th) that have been published. It's true that many of them don't speak towards the collapse at all, and many of then can't even be used to refute conspiracy myths (in fact, studies like the ones on post traumatic stress or post event drug abuse stand regardless of which direction the truth about the events lay). But my point is a more general one: It's that anyone who tries to make a generally negative claim about the level of knowledge that exists has not really tried to survey the fields of knowledge for what does exist. It's actually pretty extensive.

UNLoVedRebel
21st September 2009, 11:12 AM
For the record, as extensive as TruthersLie's list is, it doesn't encompass all of the studies. He did a very good job at finding many of the papers, but don't any readers here walk away thinking that this list is it.
That's my list (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4969965#post4969965) which he should have sourced. And I said it wasn't comprehensive in my original post (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4355078#post4355078).

TruthersLie
21st September 2009, 11:41 AM
That's my list (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4969965#post4969965) which he should have sourced. And I said it wasn't comprehensive in my original post (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4355078#post4355078).

Unloved. You are correct. I apologize, I was in a rush, and copied it. I should have sourced it as your list and the post it was from. Please forgive me.

T.A.M.
21st September 2009, 12:41 PM
Unloved. You are correct. I apologize, I was in a rush, and copied it. I should have sourced it as your list and the post it was from. Please forgive me.

Well given you didn't claim it to be yours (others did) and given how good natured Unloved is, I am sure a mere handful of lashings will do...THIS TIME!!!


TAM;)

ElMondoHummus
21st September 2009, 01:41 PM
That's my list (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4969965#post4969965) which he should have sourced. And I said it wasn't comprehensive in my original post (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?p=4355078#post4355078).

Oh, whoops. Sorry man. Credit where credit is due; that is indeed your list.

And please excuse the pedantry; I wasn't trying to imply that either TruthersLie or your goal was to be comprehensive. Rather, I was just making that point utterly clear to other readers who may only be casual browsers of this forum. That's all.

ElMondoHummus
21st September 2009, 01:49 PM
Well given you didn't claim it to be yours (others did) and given how good natured Unloved is, I am sure a mere handful of lashings will do...THIS TIME!!!


TAM;)

What disturbs me is the enthusiasm for sadomasochism that many in this forum display. :eye-poppi

And what disturbs me further is the penchant for many to volunteer to be on the receiving end of it. :eek:

;):D

UNLoVedRebel
21st September 2009, 02:21 PM
Unloved. You are correct. I apologize, I was in a rush, and copied it. I should have sourced it as your list and the post it was from. Please forgive me.

S'all good. I encourage anyone to copy and paste it so truthers won't pull the "peer-reviewed" card. A source once and while would be nice. :)

ETA: I shouldn't really be complaining about not citing sources. I did copy and paste some of the older ones from debunking911.com after I got tired of typing.

ETA part 2: The 2001-2002 papers came from debunking911.com. There are few 2003-2004 papers because I went from newest to oldest and got sick of typing and stopped.