Terroist Attack in NYC prevented???

[triforcharity]

Hey Ya'll,

It seems that the US intelligence has proven its weight in gold. Aparently there was a POSSIBLE attack in the works for NYC, to possibly include NYC landmarks like sports stadiums.

The FBI arrested Najibullah Zazi, 24, and his father, Mohammed Wali Zazi, on charges of lying to the government. It seems that one of them traveled to NYC on or about 9/11, and they were forced to arrest himm to ensure that his possible spying mission was thwarted.

Read more.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/world/2009/09/19/2009-09-19_zazi_cuffed_after_qaeda_canary_sings_li_secret_ code_used_to_inform_plotters_li.html

[willhaven]

He also admitted that he went to a training camp in Pakistan.

I wonder how many warrantless wiretaps and waterboardings this took to accomplish. My guess is zero.

[leftysergeant]

Gee. That sounds like the way we dealt with terrorists in the Clinton years.

Good law enforcement and intelligence gathering is more effective than blowing uninvolved countries all to hell.

[WildCat]

Gee. That sounds like the way we dealt with terrorists in the Clinton years.
Bush too lefty... :rolleyes:

[triforcharity]

Gee. That sounds like the way we dealt with terrorists in the Clinton years.

Good law enforcement and intelligence gathering is more effective than blowing uninvolved countries all to hell.

I agree 100%. It all starts with the initial investigations, and the agencies co-operating.

Aamazing what we can do when we all work together as ONE team, insted of trying to buddy-**** each other.

[njslim]

Still would like to waterboard this POS to see what else he knows....

[deep]

It will be interesting to see where this goes - in my opinion, their evidence is questionable -- at best.


The FBI linked him to two other email accounts by way of a common, nine-digit numerical password. OK - let's look at some examples of nine-digit passwords: 123456789, 123123123, 696969696, etc. Then again, maybe the number is random, or in some way meaningful to Zazi - we don't know.


The FBI suspects that Zazi authored the notes found on his laptop, but they also suspect that he received them via email - from an account that he was not linked to.


No details about where the notes were found on his laptop - e.g., recovering a deleted file, spam folder, browser cache, a directory called "Zazi's Terror Plots - USA", etc. I would say that's somewhat relevant, since he denied ever having seen the notes.


Regarding the weapons/bomb-making training in Pakistan - Zazi denies any such admission. I'd like to see a direct quote, or partial transcript.

[triforcharity]

Why do you constantly come to the defense of terrorists?? Even suspected ones??

I'll post more laater. gotta watch football.

[WildCat]

I agree 100%. It all starts with the initial investigations, and the agencies co-operating.
Actually this went down the way it did because the agencies involved weren't cooperating. The FBI wanted to continue the investigation longer, to see where else it lead. But the NYPD promptly blabbed about the FBI investigation (despite the FBI explicitly telling them to keep it secret) to one of their informants, who turned out to be a double-agent and alerted the targets of the FBI investigation. This forced the FBI to make the arrests when they did.

[Unsecured Coins]

Did Alex Jones know about this before hand? Because if he mentioned this on his radio show, then enough people obviously called, wrote, emailed, and badgered their congressman to stop this before it happened.

GO ALEX

[portlandatheist]

Gee. That sounds like the way we dealt with terrorists in the Clinton years.

Good law enforcement and intelligence gathering is more effective than blowing uninvolved countries all to hell.

I liked how Clinton didn't mess around when he bombed Afghanistan: no United Nations resolutions, no asking Congress what they thought of the idea, no prisoners.

[triforcharity]

Wildcat,

I have no doubt the arrest was somewhat of a ***************. What I was pointing out, is that I am pretty sure ( I could be wrong, it's happened before) is that the investigation INTO this guy most likely started with the CIA and then the FBI became involved.

Aagain, I could be wrong though.

[WildCat]

Wildcat,

I have no doubt the arrest was somewhat of a ***************. What I was pointing out, is that I am pretty sure ( I could be wrong, it's happened before) is that the investigation INTO this guy most likely started with the CIA and then the FBI became involved.

Aagain, I could be wrong though.
I haven't heard anything about the CIA being involved. I do know that distrust and outright disdain between the FBI and the NYPD unit investigating this case caused it to be prematurely exposed, and as a result we may never know the full extent of this plot or how many others were involved.

[McHrozni]

It will be interesting to see where this goes - in my opinion, their evidence is questionable -- at best.

The FBI linked him to two other email accounts by way of a common, nine-digit numerical password. OK - let's look at some examples of nine-digit passwords: 123456789, 123123123, 696969696, etc. Then again, maybe the number is random, or in some way meaningful to Zazi - we don't know.

To link him to an email account in the first place they needed the password and the email account. There is a near certainty that they have more than they're telling at this point.

The FBI suspects that Zazi authored the notes found on his laptop, but they also suspect that he received them via email - from an account that he was not linked to.

This is fairly irrelevant, if he had terrorist notes on his laptop, it is extremely likely he either authored them or received them in some way. There certainly isn't any evidence that would show he couldn't access that email account. There is no evidence at this time he could, but that's it.

No details about where the notes were found on his laptop - e.g., recovering a deleted file, spam folder, browser cache, a directory called "Zazi's Terror Plots - USA", etc. I would say that's somewhat relevant, since he denied ever having seen the notes.

Perhaps, but I'm sure such details will available in court. The fact they weren't presented doesn't mean they're automatically suspect.

Regarding the weapons/bomb-making training in Pakistan - Zazi denies any such admission. I'd like to see a direct quote, or partial transcript.


It would be nice to see that quote, in context, I agree. I'm also quite sure that most people in his place would deny training for terrorist attacks, so these words are quite meaningless :)

McHrozni

[BigAl]

Wildcat,

I have no doubt the arrest was somewhat of a ***************. What I was pointing out, is that I am pretty sure ( I could be wrong, it's happened before) is that the investigation INTO this guy most likely started with the CIA and then the FBI became involved.

Aagain, I could be wrong though.

The guy on the NYC end is an Imam of a local mosque that has reportedly been a tipster to NYPD in the past. It seems that he was a source this time, too but he's been busted for telling the Denver guys that they were under suspicion.

This is an interesting book about NYPD.

Securing the City Inside America's best Counterterrorsim force-The NYPD. by Dickey