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triadboy
19th December 2003, 12:03 PM
http://news.yahoo.com/fc?tmpl=fc&cid=34&in=science&cat=anthropology_and_archaeology

Just in time for xmas. Soon in print the Time and Newsweek front cover "Was Jesus real?"

Brown
19th December 2003, 12:11 PM
If the report is accurate, this is not much of a rebuttal. The "rebuttal" is long on possibilities, but short on actual proof.

Which is more likely: (1) that the inscription is a fake; or (2) that a bunch of innocent events could have occurred (even though there is no proof that they actually did occur) that, taken together, make it appear as though the inscription is a fake?

bjornart
19th December 2003, 12:26 PM
What? You don't believe him? His a geologist!!!!!!!!
And the guy who sold the box backed him up, he said his mother had cleamed the box at on time, but he couldnt remember with what. And just because hiss got a workshop full of forger tools doesnt mean he faked this one!!!! You just dont want to beleive!!! And a gelogist is a scientist, so you're saying sience is wrong!!!!!!

:D

Skeptical Greg
19th December 2003, 12:59 PM
Is it just the cynical, skeptic in me that is wondering how much bush-beating the Biblical Archaeology Review had to do to get this Geologist to step forward..

triadboy
19th December 2003, 03:34 PM
Originally posted by Diogenes
Is it just the cynical, skeptic in me that is wondering how much bush-beating the Biblical Archaeology Review had to do to get this Geologist to step forward..

I wonder if his credentials are like those of the Creation Science 'experts'

jj
19th December 2003, 03:45 PM
Originally posted by Diogenes
Is it just the cynical, skeptic in me that is wondering how much bush-beating the Biblical Archaeology Review had to do to get this Geologist to step forward..

It may be, but if so, the same cynical skeptic in me is wondering just about exactly the same thing.

Yahweh
19th December 2003, 07:46 PM
Yep... silly the way it works...

Archaeology proves the bible, but that same archaeology does nothing to support evolution or an Earth older than a few billion years... double standards anyone?

espritch
19th December 2003, 08:37 PM
Maybe I'm being skeptical, but wouldn't you think they would want to get an archeologist to refute the findings of the Isreali archeologists rather than a geologist?

Zero
19th December 2003, 08:44 PM
Originally posted by espritch
Maybe I'm being skeptical, but wouldn't you think they would want to get an archeologist to refute the findings of the Isreali archeologists rather than a geologist? Their second choice was probably a Christian or Jewish electrical engineer...anyone who can claim to be a doctor will do.

ReasonableDoubt
20th December 2003, 03:04 AM
Originally posted by espritch
Maybe I'm being skeptical, but wouldn't you think they would want to get an archeologist to refute the findings of the Isreali archeologists rather than a geologist? One would want to get archaeologists to dispute that which is related to archaeology, and a geologists to dispute that which is related to geology. See, for example, GEOLOGISTS: OSSUARY PATINA FAKED (http://www.archaeology.org/magazine.php?page=online/news/patina)

Being "skeptical" seems insufficient justification for ignorance.

triadboy
20th December 2003, 07:37 AM
Originally posted by Yahweh
Archaeology proves the bible, ...

The last book I read on the subject suggests the bible is way off on the facts of the settlement of Canaan. Apparently there were no rousing Joshua battles, where the Moses-people wiped out communities. The area was settled peacefully. The patriotic battles stories came later.

This explains the 'just so' story of the crumpled town of Jericho. This city was in ruins before the mythical Moses and his crowd were written as showing up. But someone writing hundreds of years later wouldn't know that. And so the children story of Joshua bringing down the walls was created - now believed as history!

Brown
22nd December 2003, 10:23 AM
Originally posted by triadboy
This explains the 'just so' story of the crumpled town of Jericho. This city was in ruins before the mythical Moses and his crowd were written as showing up. But someone writing hundreds of years later wouldn't know that. And so the children story of Joshua bringing down the walls was created - now believed as history! According to the Bible, Moses himself never made it to Jericho, but Joshua did. Your account of the fall of the walls, however, is basically correct. The walls had been down for about a thousand years before Joshua was said to have arrived. Many serious Biblical scholars recognize that the "fall of the walls of Jericho" story in the Bible is not historical.

NullPointerException
23rd December 2003, 05:12 PM
His rebuttal wasn't based on expertise in his field so it's neither a rebuttal or science.

ReasonableDoubt
24th December 2003, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by NullPointerException
His rebuttal wasn't based on expertise in his field so it's neither a rebuttal or science. Have you read it? Do you have any clue whatsoever what you're talking about?