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seayakin
27th September 2009, 04:59 AM
I try to read different newspapers to get different points of view. I heard somewhere that someone recommended reading 3 different newspapers is necessary to really be fully informed. (Today you probably have to be more careful if those 3 newspapers are all owned by the same company.)
Many people on this forum seem well informed so I was curious how much you read.
Puppycow
27th September 2009, 05:38 AM
I count the internet as more than 4 sources.
Liszt
27th September 2009, 05:39 AM
the best news magazine in the UK is still Private Eye magazine. Other than that, The Telegraph, The Guardian, The Observer (that's going to be shut down soon), the BBC website. Basically, no Murdoch or Desmond. (Radio news in the UK is run entirely by Murdoch.)
Marc39
27th September 2009, 05:43 AM
the best news magazine in the UK is still Private Eye magazine. Other than that, The Telegraph, The Guardian, The Observer (that's going to be shut down soon), the BBC website. Basically, no Murdoch or Desmond. (Radio news in the UK is run entirely by Murdoch.)
The BBC website merits being read with a skeptical eye when it comes to coverage of the Middle East...
http://www.ejpress.org/article/7205
Professor Yaffle
27th September 2009, 05:45 AM
Does Viz count?
Liszt
27th September 2009, 05:55 AM
The BBC website merits being read with a skeptical eye when it comes to coverage of the Middle East...
http://www.ejpress.org/article/7205
They've been accused of bias from both sides. An interesting article.
Professor Bagpus...Viz does count. I often take both to the pub with me, and once got them mixed up. There was a story about Bush, and quoted him as saying "We will smoke these terrorists. Mark my lips - I never sleep" - wow! Look what Bush said!
And the the Queen wasn't injected with "monkey chemicals" either (just harmless orange juice).
Praktik
27th September 2009, 06:18 AM
i use the internet and a regular rotation of blogs for current events - supplemented by CNN in the mornings, Fox news at night, and usually CBC and the BBC a few times a week.
So my reading is done in more lengthy formats: The New Yorker, The New York Review of Books, The American Conservative, Foreign Affairs
And I record Fareed Zakaria and Bill Moyers every week.
seayakin
27th September 2009, 06:38 AM
I count the internet as more than 4 sources.
I was hesitant about Internet sources because some are certainly valid but others may consider forums or personal blogs as a news source. Unfortunately, there is nothing black and white when it comes to Internet sources.
Grizzly Bear
27th September 2009, 10:59 AM
I listen to a lot of talk radio, usually between Scniddt and Hanity - the former being the most. Outside of that, Internet variations of fox news, CNN, and to a lesser extent MSNBC. I don't have cable so much of my TV based news is in local channels.
gtc
27th September 2009, 03:36 PM
Does Viz count?
Yes. So does the Beano.
geni
27th September 2009, 03:50 PM
The BBC website merits being read with a skeptical eye when it comes to coverage of the Middle East...
http://www.ejpress.org/article/7205
EJpress is in no position to lecture the BBC on reporting of events within the area of the mandate.
Azure
27th September 2009, 04:38 PM
Drudge.
Sue me.
theprestige
27th September 2009, 05:19 PM
I try to read different newspapers to get different points of view. I heard somewhere that someone recommended reading 3 different newspapers is necessary to really be fully informed. (Today you probably have to be more careful if those 3 newspapers are all owned by the same company.)
Unless you read it in three different newspapers owned by three different companies, how do you know three is a reliable figure?
Many people on this forum seem well informed so I was curious how much you read.
Seeming informed and being informed are two totally different things. Also, you seem to be fetishizing newspapers for some reason.
Have you ever read a newspaper article about a topic you're already familiar with? Have you ever noticed how many relevant details about your area of expertise newspapers omit or get wrong?
Have you ever been the subject of a newspaper report? I have. Several primary and secondary details about me and my role in the story were entirely wrong. If newspaper reports are just as reliable about the stuff I can't verify as they are about the stuff I can verify, then my bet is that no amount of newspapers will make you well informed.
MattusMaximus
27th September 2009, 05:25 PM
Drudge.
Sue me.
No. I'd rather make fun of you :)
Azure
27th September 2009, 07:01 PM
No. I'd rather make fun of you :)
Its a quick, easy, efficient way for me to have access to the news that reaffirms my belief that Americans are stupid.
:D
Marc39
27th September 2009, 07:04 PM
EJpress is in no position to lecture the BBC on reporting of events within the area of the mandate.
Except, it was the BBC's own Board that "lectured" the BBC over anti-Israel coverage.
Upchurch
27th September 2009, 07:08 PM
How many news sources do you regularly read (news magazines or newspapers)?
All of 'em, any of 'em that have been in front of me over all these years. I've read most of them, again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media.
Peephole
27th September 2009, 07:24 PM
Some interesting blogs:
http://www.bobcesca.com/
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/
and I tend to go The Huffington Post to get some headlines:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
quarky
27th September 2009, 08:23 PM
I get all my news here. Or links from here. I almost always hear about something new before my s.o. does. She relies more on printed matter and public radio.
seayakin
28th September 2009, 10:39 AM
Unless you read it in three different newspapers owned by three different companies, how do you know three is a reliable figure?
I wasn't offering 3 because it is some gold standard for well read people but merely as a suggestion I once heard about. I only threw it out their for discussion.
Seeming informed and being informed are two totally different things.
I fully understand that any judgement I make of forum members can only be based on what they have written. I do not have the knowledge or ability to create some kind of test for forum members to judge who is well informed. I only can say that many have presented well reasoned arguments built upon facts and in some instance a reference to the source of those facts. However, it is easier to simply to refer to them as well informed.
Also, you seem to be fetishizing newspapers for some reason.
Have you ever read a newspaper article about a topic you're already familiar with? Have you ever noticed how many relevant details about your area of expertise newspapers omit or get wrong?
Have you ever been the subject of a newspaper report? I have. Several primary and secondary details about me and my role in the story were entirely wrong. If newspaper reports are just as reliable about the stuff I can't verify as they are about the stuff I can verify, then my bet is that no amount of newspapers will make you well informed.
I am not fetishizing newspapers. I simply leaned towards them as a traditional news source. As I'm sure you are well aware, there is a variety of reliable sources on the Internet but I wanted to make a general distinction from what is considered a broadly defined journalistic source to some spurious source such as a 18 year old's blog praising or condemning Obama without providing any real evidence to support their arguments. Sometimes it simpler to throw out a couple of general examples than provide detailed definitions of what your are including in an informal poll such as this. This poll was based on curiosity and not developing publishable research.
Lastly, I have been the subject of a newspaper report wherein the reporter had a picture of my boss with my name in the picture. Fortunately, my boss at the time had a good sense of humor it was not an expose but an informative article.
geni
28th September 2009, 02:15 PM
Except, it was the BBC's own Board that "lectured" the BBC over anti-Israel coverage.
Err you've somehow managed to come up with a more biased description of events than the EJpress. Heh the word "lectured" doesn't appear in the article so use of quote marks is somewhat non standard. The board found a mistake in exactly one of the ureasonable large numbers BBC online publishes about the area every year. So it would the appear the the BBC is rather good at not only avoiding bias but takeing steps to correct it when it happens.
MattusMaximus
28th September 2009, 08:11 PM
Some interesting blogs:
http://www.bobcesca.com/
http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/
http://www.fivethirtyeight.com/
http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/
http://narcosphere.narconews.com/thefield/
and I tend to go The Huffington Post to get some headlines:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/
FiveThirtyEight.com is a damn good blog. A wonderful analysis of all things political and especially all things poll-related.
uk_dave
29th September 2009, 04:29 AM
Its a quick, easy, efficient way for me to have access to the news that reaffirms my belief(s)
:D
You coulda just stopped there. :D
Err you've somehow managed to come up with a more biased description of events than the EJpress. Heh the word "lectured" doesn't appear in the article so use of quote marks is somewhat non standard. The board found a mistake in exactly one of the ureasonable large numbers BBC online publishes about the area every year. So it would the appear the the BBC is rather good at not only avoiding bias but takeing steps to correct it when it happens.
Oh noes, you mustn't defend the BBC.... an internet website says so! ;)
Marc39
29th September 2009, 06:49 AM
Err you've somehow managed to come up with a more biased description of events than the EJpress. Heh the word "lectured" doesn't appear in the article so use of quote marks is somewhat non standard. The board found a mistake in exactly one of the ureasonable large numbers BBC online publishes about the area every year. So it would the appear the the BBC is rather good at not only avoiding bias but takeing steps to correct it when it happens.
The BBC has a history of anti-Israel bias. Of course, one needs to be informed about the Middle East in order to discern that bias. Most are uninformed or ill-informed.
http://www.bbcwatch.com/
The BBC has also spent upwards of $500,000 in legal costs to fight the release of the Balen Report on BBC anti-Israel bias...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balen_Report
Be more knowledgeable in the subect matter before posting.
Tricky
29th September 2009, 06:50 AM
I read all the same ones Sarah Palin reads.
Almo
29th September 2009, 07:22 AM
I read news.bbc.co.uk. So, since it's not a magazine, there are no options in your poll I can vote for.
Upchurch
29th September 2009, 07:57 AM
I read all the same ones Sarah Palin reads.
Beat ya to it:
All of 'em, any of 'em that have been in front of me over all these years. I've read most of them, again with a great appreciation for the press, for the media.
;)
quarky
29th September 2009, 09:13 AM
I read all the same ones Sarah Palin reads.
She's finished her book! 400 pages! I can't wait.
Tricky
29th September 2009, 09:15 AM
Beat ya to it:
;)
Yeah, well I'm not anal enought to memorize the quote.:p
Tricky
29th September 2009, 09:15 AM
She's finished her book! 400 pages! I can't wait.
Does it come with its own crayons?
geni
29th September 2009, 11:22 AM
The BBC has a history of anti-Israel bias. Of course, one needs to be informed about the Middle East in order to discern that bias. Most are uninformed or ill-informed.
http://www.bbcwatch.com/
Appeares to be the personal site of one Trevor Asserson who well looks unlikely to be anything close to objective.
The BBC has also spent upwards of $500,000 in legal costs to fight the release of the Balen Report on BBC anti-Israel bias...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balen_Report
I think you meant to say the jewish organisations have hounded the BBC through the courts. Of course neither of those descriptions of events are objective.
Be more knowledgeable in the subect matter before posting.
Don't mistake being aware of long standing attempts to attack the BBC as being knowledgeable or did you seriously think I was not aware of the Balen Report issue?
Marc39
2nd October 2009, 10:01 AM
Appeares to be the personal site of one Trevor Asserson who well looks unlikely to be anything close to objective.
Which is gibberish.
I think you meant to say the jewish organisations have hounded the BBC through the courts. Of course neither of those descriptions of events are objective.
Were the BBC not so "shy" in releasing a report that likely indicts their news coverage of Israel as slanted, the BBC would not need to incur massive legal costs in a concerted effort to prevent the release of the report.
...did you seriously think I was not aware of the Balen Report issue?
I could not possibly care less.
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