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NWO Sentryman
28th September 2009, 09:45 AM
For all the historians here.

Did Canada get a free ride on the us military during the cold war?

drkitten
28th September 2009, 10:07 AM
For all the historians here.

Did Canada get a free ride on the us military during the cold war?

No more so than Honduras, I should think. And arguably a hell of a lot less. Canada was never seriously threatened,... and Canada certainly supported the US military when called upon (e.g. in Korea).

NWO Sentryman
28th September 2009, 10:13 AM
well, How far was Canada from the Soviet Union?

D'rok
28th September 2009, 10:14 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distant_Early_Warning_Line

Lots of cooperation. We did what we could.

drkitten
28th September 2009, 10:17 AM
well, How far was Canada from the Soviet Union?

Not really relevant. Soviet military adventurism was largely confined to Europe, in part, because that's where the stuff was that the Sovs wanted. Sweden was substantially closer to the real action.

NWO Sentryman
28th September 2009, 11:02 AM
thanks for the info.

Gord_in_Toronto
28th September 2009, 11:05 AM
well, How far was Canada from the Soviet Union?

Zero <any measure of distance>. But it's only a point.

Canadian forces were stationed in Europe. Canadian_Forces_Europe

Canadian forces fought and and died in Korea.
http://www.kvacanada.com/canadians_in_the_korean_war.htm

Canada is a partner in NORAD.
North_American_Aerospace_Defense_Command

Watsamatter? Can't use Google? ;)

kookbreaker
28th September 2009, 12:48 PM
Zero <any measure of distance>. But it's only a point.

Canadian forces were stationed in Europe. Canadian_Forces_Europe

Canadian forces fought and and died in Korea.
http://www.kvacanada.com/canadians_in_the_korean_war.htm

Canada is a partner in NORAD.
North_American_Aerospace_Defense_Command

Watsamatter? Can't use Google? ;)

Don't forget all the Canadians who enlisted in the US military during the Vietnam war. That was a sizable number.

Debaser
29th September 2009, 05:51 AM
Don't forget all the Canadians who enlisted in the US military during the Vietnam war. That was a sizable number.

Do you have a figure for them? I'm wondering if the number of Canadians enlisting in the US forces balanced out the number of US citizens going north to avoid the draft?



(I believe there were volunteers from other Anglophone countries for that one as well, e.g. UK, Ireland, etc.).

shadron
29th September 2009, 07:21 AM
well, How far was Canada from the Soviet Union?

Let's just say that USSR's ICBMs mostly crossed over Canadian territory to reach their US targets.

Comrade Raptor
29th September 2009, 08:38 AM
Per capita, nobody contributed more to NATO than Norway.

Perhaps we all got a free ride off them.

timhau
29th September 2009, 09:17 AM
Damn those Canadians, with their beady eyes and flapping heads...

Comrade Raptor
29th September 2009, 01:12 PM
Be nice or I won't let you have any of my Kraft Dinner.

HeyLeroy
29th September 2009, 01:24 PM
Do you have a figure for them? I'm wondering if the number of Canadians enlisting in the US forces balanced out the number of US citizens going north to avoid the draft?


Since 1959 when the United states officially entered the Vietnam war approximately 40,000 Canadians voluntarily joined and served beside their brothers and sisters from the United States in all branches of the U.S. armed forces. Who can explain as to why they volunteered to serve in Vietnam. Perhaps it was because they believed in the right to choose, the right to liberty, the right of unrestrictiveness and privilege. Maybe they believed in Freedom and chose to fight for it. Sometimes we take what we have for granted, for those of us who enjoy freedom on an every day basis, we have those who fought for it to thank.
http://www.geocities.com/pentagon/5344/cvvm.html


Let's just say that USSR's ICBMs mostly crossed over Canadian territory to reach their US targets.


When did that happen? :hypnotize

NoZed Avenger
29th September 2009, 04:49 PM
When did that happen? :hypnotize

Damn. And here I was complaining to the landlord.

I thought it was the neighbor with his radio again.

Horatius
29th September 2009, 09:03 PM
When did that happen? :hypnotize



He saying we're free riders, and you guys don't even remember the time those dirty commies almost nuked you, but didn't because they forgot Canada was in the way, and all the missiles ran out of fuel halfway there, and now we're stuck dealing with these hordes of mutant beavers that keep competing with us for the caribou spoils.


Well, that's gratitude for you.

dropzone
29th September 2009, 09:31 PM
I am sickened by any gainsaying of Canada's contribution to the USA's effort in the Cold War. Canada's CF-100s (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CF-100_Canuck) and Canadair Sabres (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadair_Sabre), even with the funny spelling, were our first line of defense against Russian bombers. We should honor them, just like we should honor the 60,000 Australian soldiers who served beside our boys in Vietnam.

Furcifer
29th September 2009, 10:04 PM
For all the historians here.

Did Canada get a free ride on the us military during the cold war?

I'm not a historian (although I did play one in University for a year or so). What exactly did the US military do (for us) during the cold war?

If I remember correctly Canada provided a strategic advantage to the Americans at no charge (probably taxed the hell oot yah, welcome eh!)

"Broken Arrow"...need I say more?

Then the whole exchange during Vietnam, we sent you soldiers you sent us hippies. :)

You start to tally things up and I think it's the other way around.That doesn't even include baseball for hockey. Thanks for that snooze fest (Go Tigers!)
[insert Celine Dion rebuttal here]

qayak
29th September 2009, 10:41 PM
Canadian forces fought and and died in Korea.

Yes but Korea was a U.N. deal not an American deal. Canada tends to deal with international conflict through the UN because that is what Canada agreed to when they joined.

The only time Canada has stepped outside that was when our ally was attacked and we were asked to help in Afghanistan. We declined on the Iraq thing because they didn't attack our ally.

shadron
29th September 2009, 10:55 PM
When did that happen? :hypnotize

When god created the Great Circle route.

cgordon
30th September 2009, 08:22 AM
When I was stationed in Germany during said CW, we did several joint exercises with Canadian Forces stationed there. The Canadians had better PXes, too ...

There's still a (small) Canadian presence in the NATO structure (attached to the US Army Europe HQ, I think), and as of 2008 or so there was still a (small) Canadian PX in Heidelberg.

drkitten
30th September 2009, 08:36 AM
When god created the Great Circle route.

Ah, so you mean that they never actually did.

Got it.

Jorghnassen
30th September 2009, 08:56 AM
Hey, scrambling CF-18's every time the Soviets flew a few planes over the Arctic wasn't free.

HeyLeroy
30th September 2009, 10:28 AM
He saying we're free riders, and you guys don't even remember the time those dirty commies almost nuked you, but didn't because they forgot Canada was in the way, and all the missiles ran out of fuel halfway there, and now we're stuck dealing with these hordes of mutant beavers that keep competing with us for the caribou spoils.


Well, that's gratitude for you.

It's true:
http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/61974ac386fb59241.jpg

dropzone
30th September 2009, 09:51 PM
Hey, scrambling CF-18's every time the Soviets flew a few planes over the Arctic wasn't free.But CF-18s replaced the CF-101 Voodoo. Gawd, I loved the Voodoo. Best looking of the Nifty Fifties.

Praktik
1st October 2009, 11:56 AM
Yes but Korea was a U.N. deal not an American deal. Canada tends to deal with international conflict through the UN because that is what Canada agreed to when they joined.

The only time Canada has stepped outside that was when our ally was attacked and we were asked to help in Afghanistan. We declined on the Iraq thing because they didn't attack our ally.

And also cause whatever you say about Crouton, he had enough foresight to know that was one mission that wasn't gonna be worth it.

Algebra34
1st October 2009, 08:19 PM
I think the Cold War got a free ride in the US.

Shrike
5th October 2009, 02:34 AM
<snip>hordes of mutant beavers </snip>

Great titel for a porn movie.

Horatius
5th October 2009, 06:59 AM
Great titel for a porn movie.



Oh, sure, mock our pain.


:mad:

Gord_in_Toronto
5th October 2009, 10:46 AM
Oh, sure, mock our pain.


:mad:


I thought they were a rock band from Sainte-Anne-de-la-Pocatière? :confused: