October Stundie Nominations

[Horatius]

Wing Nut Daily comes in with a late contender, (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=114411) but I think it's got a good chance:


A California judge has dismissed a complaint challenging President Obama's eligibility to be president citing the "birth certificate from the state of Hawaii" that apparently refers to an Internet image of a "Certification of Live Birth" released during Obama's campaign.


...because of course the only version of the document the Judge in the court case could possibly have seen is the "Internet Image".....while also completely ignoring the fact that he doesn't even address the document in his ruling. On wonders what ruling WND was reading.

[carlitos]

Yeah, it's been debunked. For one thing Baum was a big McKinley supporter. The theories about populism came out in (I think) the 1960s but have long since been abandoned. I can find some references for you if you want. I have a small shelf of books on the history of the Wizard of Oz. it was my father's favorite movie. He was a member of the Oz fan club so I grew up with Oz stuff, including the books.

FWIW, I still use the Populism story in class, although I explain that it's been debunked it's a good story for students to remember the issues involved in the 1896 election (gold, silver, industrialization, farmers, etc).

Can you link to the debunking please? Before I found the link I posted, I had only read the University of Illinois (Chicago) article by Richard Jensen, which I had thought to be legitimate. The link to that article is dead now. Thanks!

ETA - if it's only in book form, never mind and I'll take your word for it.

[Horatius]

Okay, here's one that I have a great personal fondness for. carcdr on the new moron forum: (http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shack/index.php?showtopic=7&view=findpost&p=196963)


According to the article, the reflector has unique characteristics, it apparently has

QUOTE

"corner-cube reflectors," they send the pulse straight back where it came from


Wow! This reflector defies the physical theories of optics! Great invention!



Why the personal fondness? Well, most of you are aware that I work at the patent office. My area is optics. I'll post one of the classifications I work on:

[G02B 5/12
· Reflex reflectors

G02B 5/122
· · cube corner, trihedral or triple reflector type [2]
G02B 5/124
· · · plural reflecting elements forming part of a unitary plate or sheet
G02B 5/126
· · including curved refracting surface [2]
G02B 5/128
· · · transparent spheres being embedded in matrix [2]
G02B 5/13
· · · plural curved refracting elements forming part of a unitary body [2]
G02B 5/132
· · · with individual reflector mounting means [2]
G02B 5/134
· · · · including a threaded mounting member [2]
G02B 5/136
· · plural reflecting elements forming part of a unitary body


So, not only do these not violate the laws of optics, there are actually enough variations on them we need more than one class to sort them all out.

Unless of course, I'm in on it :D


Then, like the cherry on top of a sundae, he finishes off with this little treat:


ps. Extra marks. Exactly how did the lunar rovers - the dune buggies - get transported to the moon? Were they stored in the LEM or what?


"Were they stored in the LEM or what?". Uhm, yes. They were stored on the Lunar Module. Don't we even have photos or video of one astronaut unpacking it?

[Furcifer]

Okay, here's one that I have a great personal fondness for. carcdr on the new moron forum: (http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shack/index.php?showtopic=7&view=findpost&p=196963)

No twofur's on truthers, Pick one or the other. The first ones got my vote. You can't beat lolzing science with bad science when it comes to a Stundie.

[Dave Rogers]

I'm seriously impressed by the suggestion that a corner cube reflector violates the laws of optics. It's an extremely simple piece of geometry, that I suspect I could explain to a five-year-old with a chalkboard and a little preparation. Alternatively, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retro-reflector does a good enough job.

Dave

[Horatius]

I'm seriously impressed by the suggestion that a corner cube reflector violates the laws of optics. It's an extremely simple piece of geometry, that I suspect I could explain to a five-year-old with a chalkboard and a little preparation. Alternatively, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retro-reflector does a good enough job.

Dave



I suspect it's yet another example of the "a little knowledge is a dangerous thing" effect. He probably heard something like "The angle of incidence is equal to the angle of reflection" in grade 10, and then never stopped to consider the possible effects of a series of reflections.


One wonders if he's never seen workmen on the road at night. Or reflectors on a bicycle. Or a cat's eye. Hell, some reflex reflectors are even called "Cat's Eyes"! (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cat%27s_eye_(road))

[Myron Proudfoot]

Can you link to the debunking please? Before I found the link I posted, I had only read the University of Illinois (Chicago) article by Richard Jensen, which I had thought to be legitimate. The link to that article is dead now. Thanks!

ETA - if it's only in book form, never mind and I'll take your word for it.

Sure, I'll look up the references for you this weekend. I'll post them here so anybody that's interested can check.

MPf

[Alferd_Packer]

Cognitive dissonance at its finest.

A birther contemplates their latest setback:

I look at this from a different point of view then those who support Obama. I feel that every lawsuit that’s dismissed proves further that what Orly says is TRUE.

http://totalbuzz.freedomblogging.com/2009/10/29/oc-lawsuit-challenging-obama-birthplace-dismissed/

[jaydeehess]

Cool, more people should watch the Daily Show

Well the conspiracy goes like this:
The gov't wants to discredit a person so they target his house and feed him and only him a supposed news report over the air (cause so many people still get their TV content over the air) and when he comments on it in public and no one else saw this report he is made to look like a fool, thus discrediting him.

I cannot nominate the poster who said this because I already did and that month he simply got outgunned for a Stundie... <<sighs>>

[Horatius]

Well the conspiracy goes like this:
The gov't wants to discredit a person so they target his house and feed him and only him a supposed news report over the air (cause so many people still get their TV content over the air) and when he comments on it in public and no one else saw this report he is made to look like a fool, thus discrediting him.

I cannot nominate the poster who said this because I already did and that month he simply got outgunned for a Stundie... <<sighs>>




Sooooo....DTV also disables VCRs?

I think I have a comic to make.

[defaultdotxbe]

Its a new one on me, but it ranks up there with TV's that spy on you, and my personal favorite, that the switch to digital TV is being done so that TPTB can transmit false TV news to specific individuals(remember, this switch involves ONLY over-the-air broadcast).
i like the CT that said the digital switch was so they could broadcast mind control, and the converter box was so they could control people who dont have newer TVs, blissfully ignorant of that fact that any mind control requiring a digital signal would be filtered out by converting it back to analog

No twofur's on truthers, Pick one or the other. The first ones got my vote. You can't beat lolzing science with bad science when it comes to a Stundie.
i like the second one, nothing better than an oblivious self-debunker who thinks hes being clever

[jaydeehess]

Sooooo....DTV also disables VCRs?

I think I have a comic to make.

For your further edification re: that particular CT, he claims to be a nuclear engineer.:D

In all honesty though, he looks positively down to earth compared to some of the other denizens of the Blackvault's conspiracy subforum...

[Elizabeth I]

Why the personal fondness? Well, most of you are aware that I work at the patent office. My area is optics. I'll post one of the classifications I work on:

So, not only do these not violate the laws of optics, there are actually enough variations on them we need more than one class to sort them all out.

Unless of course, I'm in on it :D

Well, we all knew that!

[Alareth]

For your further edification re: that particular CT, he claims to be a nuclear engineer.:D

So is Homer Simpson.

[jaydeehess]

So is Homer Simpson.

Good point!:D

[Horatius]

So is Homer Simpson.



No, he's just a nucular safety-whatcamacallit.

[NWO Sentryman]

I think i have another stundie here. IDK if pictures can be stundied.:

http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2009/10/lies-about-lockerbie-911-and-terrorism.html

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_9jbG-c2Ned4/Sugo2ObHyCI/AAAAAAAACSM/a_nd29fuMcY/s1600-h/pentagon_MISSILE_debris_01.jpg

[16.5]

I think i have another stundie here. IDK if pictures can be stundied.:

http://existentialistcowboy.blogspot.com/2009/10/lies-about-lockerbie-911-and-terrorism.html

They sure can, I think Terral won the annual award by proving in a picture that the Pentagon was ten feet tall.

[Minadin]

His ruling has not dismissed the case, but rather merely dismissed arguments presented

From:

http://thepostnemail.wordpress.com/2009/10/30/carters-not-yet-given-a-final-judgement/

[Myron Proudfoot]

Can you link to the debunking please? Before I found the link I posted, I had only read the University of Illinois (Chicago) article by Richard Jensen, which I had thought to be legitimate. The link to that article is dead now. Thanks!

ETA - if it's only in book form, never mind and I'll take your word for it.

Here you go, try The Historian's Wizard of Oz: Reading L. Frank Baum's Classic as a Political and Monetary Allegory, Ranjit S. Dighe, ed. (2002).

Also see David B. Parker, "The Rise and Fall of The Wonderful Wizard of Oz as a 'Parable on Populism'," Journal of the Georgia Association of Historians, 15 (1994) 49-63/ Parker's article is a nice historiography.

[Mel Odious]

Okay, here's one that I have a great personal fondness for. carcdr on the new moron forum: (http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shack/index.php?showtopic=7&view=findpost&p=196963)

According to the article, the reflector has unique characteristics, it apparently has

QUOTE

"corner-cube reflectors," they send the pulse straight back where it came from

Wow! This reflector defies the physical theories of optics! Great invention!


Damn, it looks like carcdr might have taken himself out of the running ...

Let the record show that I was wrong in my sweeping statement about the optics. It is possible to use a corner cube to reflect light back to the source. I don't think that it is possible to reflect from a corner cube with 100% efficiency, due to phase and interference effects.


Link. (http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shack/index.php?showtopic=7&view=findpost&p=211599)

I'm disappointed. This was one nominee I was definitely going to vote for in the finals ... :mad:

[Horatius]

Damn, it looks like carcdr might have taken himself out of the running ...

Link. (http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shack/index.php?showtopic=7&view=findpost&p=211599)

I'm disappointed. This was one nominee I was definitely going to vote for in the finals ... :mad:



Rats. He still doesn't buy the explanation of the rover, though, so that one stands!

Nice to see he can actually learn something, though.


"Terbates" there works up a good one, later: (http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shack/index.php?showtopic=7&view=findpost&p=213474)


How is it that other countries were watching the Apollo missions, when ALL the alleged missions occurred on the far side of the moon?
Why do you think the missions occurred on the far side? I have never seen this claim before from anyone.

You shouldn't really post without knowing what you're talking about, unless you would like to claim you've been mislead all these years.

1. It's a known fact never been up for questioning where the alleged landing sites were; you need to look at a map of those alleged sites, they were ALL claimed to be on the far side of the moon. Look it up.



Look it up? Oh, okay!


D'oh! (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/mapcatalog/LandingSite/index.html)

[sylvan8798]

Rats. He still doesn't buy the explanation of the rover, though, so that one stands!

Nice to see he can actually learn something, though.


"Terbates" there works up a good one, later: (http://z6.invisionfree.com/Reality_Shack/index.php?showtopic=7&view=findpost&p=213474)




Look it up? Oh, okay!


D'oh! (http://www.lpi.usra.edu/resources/mapcatalog/LandingSite/index.html)

Welcome to another episode of "How Ignorant Can I Look?"

[shandyjan]

A Beyonce video is part of a mind control scheme:

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2153

And in keeping with the Wizard of Oz "Secret Meanings" theme;

http://vigilantcitizen.com/?p=2282

THe Mind truly boggles.

And check out VigiliantCitizen's Home Page. It's a Mother Lode of CT insanity. EVERYTHING is part of some vast occult conspiracy in his world.

Wow. Lady Gaga too. That site is mad, there is no pleasure in anything fickle in the minds of those people. I think the art of video is too much for their brains to enjoy without seeing takeover plots. Bookmarked that site.