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Lothian
6th October 2009, 12:14 AM
Why is the U.K. lumped in with Poland?The Charter of Fundamental Rights was replaced by a short cross-reference with the same legal value. However, due to strong British opposition, the Charter will not be legally binding in the UK. Poland has joined the UK in asking for an opt-out of the Charter.

Link (http://www.euractiv.com/en/future-eu/treaty-lisbon/article-163412)

Basically we asked to opt out of a part and the jack booted Euro Empire said "Fine".

Lothian
6th October 2009, 12:21 AM
I am just throwing this out there....but would a good start be actually having a constitution?No, Even if it did nothing new some people would object, We would need a referendum and it would cost a load of money.


....and that is before the whole county goes up in arms when they realise that the new constitution is a statute of the Admiralty which is overruled by the God given common law sovereignty of the contracting freemen of the land or something.

malbui
6th October 2009, 12:27 AM
I'll go for him being son of a US serviceman who's spent a lot of time here. It would explain the 40 miles from Glasgow reference, which would pick up Holy Loch (amongst others).

But definitely not a Brit or a product of the UK mainstream education system, as his grasp of basic knowledge of said UK shows.

Proof of the old proverb B'fhearr a bhi samhach na droch dhan a ghabhail, as we say where I come from*


* no, it's actually a real proverb and very polite and no sweary words or anything.


In my part of the world the most appropriate proverb for our friend Especially would be is binn béal ina thost ;)


ETA: Obligatory thread-relevant comment: as long as the BBC keeps on producing In Our Time on a Thursday morning and making it available for download, it's doing fine by me.

fitzgibbon
6th October 2009, 02:07 AM
Lulz, and so anyone lurking or casually browsing who might get taken in by the FOTL stuff can see the sort of person supporting it.

Fair 'nuff. Especially just seemed to be going around chasing his tail from what I saw. Guess I didn't appreciate that he was actually being useful in a backhanded way. :)

Lothian
6th October 2009, 02:12 AM
Proof of the old proverb B'fhearr a bhi samhach na droch dhan a ghabhail, as we say where I come from*


In my part of the world the most appropriate proverb for our friend Especially would be is binn béal ina thost ;)


Here we have a traditional old saying. "*********** bull****er, doesn't know his arse from his elbow."

Especially
6th October 2009, 02:27 AM
The mafia mass media don't like being exposed.

The British people DEMAND a Referendum, a vote, on the illegal political union that is months away with the European Union.

The following message is being sent to all media outlets in the United Kingdom together with a detailed article on a National Protest here in England. Our political parties at Westminster are agents of treason.

NATIONAL PROTEST MEETING

WE DEMAND A VOTE BEFORE OUR NATION IS POLITICALLY UNITED WITH THE EUROPEAN UNION !!! YOU HAVE NO MANDATE FROM THE PEOPLE OF ENGLAND

Gathering At -

Plymouth Hoe
Plymouth
Devon
England

Saturday 7th November 2009
Speakers from 1 pm
Come Early !

BRING ENGLAND WITH YOU !!

Lothian
6th October 2009, 02:32 AM
The mafia mass media don't like being exposed.I didn't know the mafia had a PR team.

The British people DEMAND a Referendum on political union with the European Union. Our political parties at Westminster are agents of treason.I think you need a referendum on whether there should be a referendum before claiming that the British people demand one. All you have is a few noisy people wanting it.

Anyway back to your O.P. you claimed that the Lisbon treaty would abolish the Uk parliament. Which page?

Agatha
6th October 2009, 02:43 AM
You wouldn't be able to vote in a referendum anyway, since you informed us that you are not on the electoral roll. Are you entitled to be on the roll?

Especially
6th October 2009, 02:47 AM
The mafia mass media don't like being exposed.

The British people DEMAND a Referendum, a vote, on the ILLEGAL political union that is now only months away with the European Union. It does NOT have the approval of the people of this island.

The following message is being sent to all media outlets in the United Kingdom together with a detailed article on reasons for a National Protest here in England. Our political parties at Westminster are agents of treason.

NATIONAL PROTEST MEETING

WE DEMAND A VOTE BEFORE OUR NATION IS POLITICALLY UNITED WITH THE EUROPEAN UNION !!! YOU HAVE NO MANDATE FROM THE PEOPLE OF ENGLAND !

Gathering At -

Plymouth Hoe
Plymouth
Devon
England

Saturday 7th November 2009
Speakers from 1 pm
Come Early !

BRING ENGLAND WITH YOU !!

Rolfe
6th October 2009, 02:52 AM
Oh, good choice of venue! So convenient for all areas of the country.

Expecting many people from Newcastle?

Rolfe.

JAStewart
6th October 2009, 02:53 AM
Gathering At -

Plymouth Hoe
Plymouth
Devon
England

Yes, 3 hubs of mass population. What are you, mental? If there was a protest It'd be in London, Manchester, Edinburgh.

Saying 'England' might be a big vague also.

The BBC is awesome for football coverage.

cyborg
6th October 2009, 02:54 AM
I think I'm washing my hair that day.

Lothian
6th October 2009, 02:54 AM
Anyway back to your O.P. you claimed that the Lisbon treaty would abolish the Uk parliament. Which page?

Especially
6th October 2009, 03:00 AM
Oh, good choice of venue! So convenient for all areas of the country.

Expecting many people from Newcastle?

Rolfe.

Nearly 750,000 people came to London to protest publicly before the corrupt UK government ILLEGALLY invaded and occupied Iraq. The largest ever public march in Britain ! Thousands came from Newcastle.

THIS IS THE ENTIRE FUTURE OF ENGLAND. AND WE HAVE ONE CHANCE. WE ARE TAKING IT ! THANKS FOR YOUR SUPPORT. COMING FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY.

Comsat Angel
6th October 2009, 03:01 AM
Is Channel 4 okay? And what about Dave? My daughter likes Dave.

Agatha
6th October 2009, 03:02 AM
I'm afraid England doesn't fit in my handbag. And five hours on a Virgin Cross Country train to get to Plymouth must be considered cruel and unusual punishment, so I'm afraid I won't be there.

Which page of the Lisbon treaty sets out the abolition of the UK parliament? If you tell me the exact page, I'll ring Jeremy Vine up in the next hour and get your message out on the BBC.

Comsat Angel
6th October 2009, 03:04 AM
Nearly 750,000 people came to London to protest publicly before the corrupt UK government ILLEGALLY invaded and occupied Iraq. The largest ever public march in Britain ! Thousands came from Newcastle.

THIS IS THE ENTIRE FUTURE OF ENGLAND. AND WE HAVE ONE CHANCE. WE ARE TAKING IT.

Plymouth Does Not Equal London.


Just thought I'd point that out.

Oh - what about Scotland's future? And is BBC Scotland okay or not?

Especially
6th October 2009, 03:05 AM
The mafia mass media don't like being exposed.

The British people DEMAND a Referendum, a vote, on the ILLEGAL political union that is now only months away with the European Union. It does NOT have the approval of the people of this island.

The following message is being sent to all media outlets in the United Kingdom together with a detailed article on reasons for a National Protest here in England. Our political parties at Westminster are agents of treason.

NATIONAL PROTEST MEETING

WE DEMAND A VOTE BEFORE OUR NATION IS POLITICALLY UNITED WITH THE EUROPEAN UNION !!! YOU HAVE NO MANDATE FROM THE PEOPLE OF ENGLAND !

Gathering At -

Plymouth Hoe
Plymouth
Devon
England

Saturday 7th November 2009
Speakers from 1 pm
Come Early !

BRING ENGLAND WITH YOU !!

Lothian
6th October 2009, 03:07 AM
Oh, good choice of venue! So convenient for all areas of the country.

Expecting many people from Newcastle?

Rolfe.The 4.30 will be heaving with Geordies eagerly clutching their £154 off peak returns.


Oh wait........... the toon are at home that day.

Agatha
6th October 2009, 03:08 AM
Umm, yes, Especially, you said that already.

So about that page of the Lisbon Treaty.....? My fingers are poised over the telephone keypad, ready to ring Jeremy Vine. I just need the page, Especially.

Lothian
6th October 2009, 03:10 AM
The mafia mass media don't like being exposed.

The British people DEMAND a Referendum, a vote, on the ILLEGAL political union that is now only months away with the European Union. It does NOT have the approval of the people of this island.

The following message is being sent to all media outlets in the United Kingdom together with a detailed article on reasons for a National Protest here in England. Our political parties at Westminster are agents of treason.

NATIONAL PROTEST MEETING

WE DEMAND A VOTE BEFORE OUR NATION IS POLITICALLY UNITED WITH THE EUROPEAN UNION !!! YOU HAVE NO MANDATE FROM THE PEOPLE OF ENGLAND !

Gathering At -

Plymouth Hoe
Plymouth
Devon
England

Saturday 7th November 2009
Speakers from 1 pm
Come Early !

BRING ENGLAND WITH YOU !! Bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz repetition?

Lothian
6th October 2009, 03:12 AM
Nearly 750,000 people came to London to protest publicly before the corrupt UK government ILLEGALLY invaded and occupied Iraq. The largest ever public march in Britain ! Thousands came from Newcastle.
Does plymouth hoe hold 750,000 or are you not expecting many to turn up?

Especially
6th October 2009, 03:12 AM
Never underestimate the Sovereignty of we, the people !

Darat
6th October 2009, 03:15 AM
Stop with the large font size posts and since this thread is obviously nothing more than a continuation of the [Moderated] thread I'm closing it and directing you all to continue over there: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=155358