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Paradox74
6th October 2009, 06:51 PM
More than two years ago, I’ve encountered a rather absurd conspiracy theory that the world is governed by a race of shape-shifting reptoids from the fourth-dimension. I first read about it in Coast to Coast’s magazine series, After Dark. I think it was the October issue though I can’t say for sure. As far as my memory goes, this particular conspiracy theory gained momentum thanks to an author (can’t remember the name) during the Bush administration. I obviously found it absurd at first, the fourth-dimension thing threw me off, but I like to hear your thoughts on this conspiracy. Are there different varieties of this conspiracy theory? Is it based on any pseudohistorical or flawed science?

arthwollipot
6th October 2009, 06:54 PM
David Icke is the name you're looking for.

Gord_in_Toronto
6th October 2009, 07:34 PM
David Icke is the name you're looking for.

You really had to go and tell him didn't you? :(

JoeyDonuts
6th October 2009, 08:31 PM
I'd say it's based on the miniseries "V."

Horatius
6th October 2009, 09:13 PM
I'd say it's based on the miniseries "V."



Which is being remade, and looks awesome.



I'm almost willing to accept the inevitable influx of Stupid CTists claiming it's another example of Hollywood bragging about the NWO, it looks so awesome.

Drudgewire
6th October 2009, 09:17 PM
Youtube search "reptilians" for videos of politicians sticking their tongues out during speeches. Be sure to read the paranoid comments underneath.

Comedy GOLD!!!

rambaldi
7th October 2009, 05:13 AM
Is it based on any pseudohistorical or flawed science?

No, its based on plain lunacy.

Paradox74
7th October 2009, 08:22 AM
Which is being remade, and looks awesome.



I'm almost willing to accept the inevitable influx of Stupid CTists claiming it's another example of Hollywood bragging about the NWO, it looks so awesome.


You mean that there's another "V" TV series comming out? I like the sound of that!


Youtube search "reptilians" for videos of politicians sticking their tongues out during speeches. Be sure to read the paranoid comments underneath.

Comedy GOLD!!!

I look that up. Thanks for the info.

Drudgewire
7th October 2009, 08:24 AM
You mean that there's another "V" TV series comming out? I like the sound of that!


Starts next month (http://abc.go.com/shows/v). I'm certainly going to give it a chance.

Ohnoes
7th October 2009, 08:55 AM
I have always wondered if Icke thinks that the little lizards that inhabit your shrubbery are spies?:D

dudalb
7th October 2009, 11:09 AM
I'd say it's based on the miniseries "V."

And I think "V " swiped the concept of disguised reptilian aliens taking over the world from The Skrulls who have been around since Fantastic Four 2 back in 1962.

Zorglub
7th October 2009, 11:54 AM
The reptilians and the mole people are fighting out a secret war for world domination. In 2012 we will know the result. The loosing side has to go in exile on Planet X.
Those are the rules.

OldTigerCub
7th October 2009, 07:16 PM
Reptilians? What reptilians? :p

(sorry, I'm just not getting the mileage out of my tag that I used to....:( )

Mel Odious
7th October 2009, 08:34 PM
Paradox74, if you haven't already seen it, there's a Reptilians (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?s=&daysprune=-1&f=18) subforum at the David Icke Forums. Best taken in small doses though; those forums are full of some of the most highly concentrated stupid you'll ever see.

Paradox74
8th October 2009, 01:19 PM
Paradox74, if you haven't already seen it, there's a Reptilians subforum at the David Icke Forums. Best taken in small doses though; those forums are full of some of the most highly concentrated stupid you'll ever see.

Thanks. By the way, I've seen the Penn & Teller's: ************ episode that briefly covers this conspiracy theory.

Furcifer
8th October 2009, 02:40 PM
Wow, from over at Icke

I've posted a bit on these subjects but not the shapeshifting. Please keep in mind, I limit what I type on anything classified as commiting federal felonies is not something I would like to deal with the stresses of at this point in my life

watch out DE, that kitty ain't no kitty!

but wait, there's more

The only individual I've seen shapeshift was during my psyops training. The individual goes by the name Ingo Swan. My memories of the shapeshifts are very fuzzy however I recall seeing him do it a few times

Hmmph. The moderators over at Icke have psyops training. Darat? Tricky? Anyone here have psyops training? No, didn't think so. Buncha bums running this operation I tell yah...

For the OP, I'd have to say my first guess is that the reptilian overlord theory is based in paranoid delusion and a need to be the center of attention. The same way they pick forum moderators.

Sledge
8th October 2009, 02:46 PM
I can find my way around with only one eye open.

*rereads post*

Sorry, thought you said cyclops training.

Furcifer
8th October 2009, 03:19 PM
I can find my way around with only one eye open.

*rereads post*

Sorry, thought you said cyclops training.

No that's down the hall and to the right.

But I've said too much already. I've put the entire forum at risk. If you don't hear from me in 3 days I want you to take your sister and get out of the city. I don't care where you go, and I don't want to know. I just need to know that the two of you are safe. Don't worry about me, my traing has me prepared for things like this. I've got $1000 in umarked bills, my teddy bear and a cape in a locker at the bus station. We knew this could happen. I think I hear someone coming. I've got to get out of here.

MysteryMammal
8th October 2009, 06:39 PM
More than two years ago, I’ve encountered a rather absurd conspiracy theory that the world is governed by a race of shape-shifting reptoids from the fourth-dimension. I first read about it in Coast to Coast’s magazine series, After Dark. I think it was the October issue though I can’t say for sure. As far as my memory goes, this particular conspiracy theory gained momentum thanks to an author (can’t remember the name) during the Bush administration. I obviously found it absurd at first, the fourth-dimension thing threw me off, but I like to hear your thoughts on this conspiracy. Are there different varieties of this conspiracy theory? Is it based on any pseudohistorical or flawed science?

The reptilians are my favorite conspiracy, and David Icke is my favorite whack-job. No lie.

It seems, as far as I can tell, to be based on the idea of "ZOMG! Reptiles appear in art and shizznit around the world and all the way back into ancient times!" Of course so do: Birds, commonly hunted animals like deer, predatory mammals (especially large cats), etc. So, based on this "evidence" it might not be shape-shifting reptiles that control the world, but shape-shifting buffalo. :rolleyes:

I would like to know what David Icke means by "the fourth dimension".

GreNME
8th October 2009, 07:11 PM
I'd say it's based on the miniseries "V."

+1 (http://www.thewb.com/shows/v)

D'rok
8th October 2009, 07:17 PM
Starts next month (http://abc.go.com/shows/v). I'm certainly going to give it a chance.

Inara!

albie
9th October 2009, 05:19 AM
I'd like to just put forward my vote for the most likely alien MP...Andy Burnham. He can't be human.

/http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2008/06/05/AndyBurnhamPASteveParsons.jpg

Joking of course.

Even Icke's own fans think he might be one himself...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84181

Perfume V
9th October 2009, 09:38 AM
There is a scorchingly good documentary by occasional JREF poster Jon Ronson - whose book is the source material for the upcoming movie The Men Who Stare At Goats - about this theory. It's available on Google Video and is called The Lizards and the Jews (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2912878405399014351&ei=BFjPSoD4AZCl-AbvofXvCQ&q=jon+ronson+david+icke#). There's a lot of background and archive clips on Icke's previous career in the UK in there as well.

shandyjan
9th October 2009, 01:43 PM
There is a scorchingly good documentary by occasional JREF poster Jon Ronson - whose book is the source material for the upcoming movie The Men Who Stare At Goats - about this theory. It's available on Google Video and is called The Lizards and the Jews (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2912878405399014351&ei=BFjPSoD4AZCl-AbvofXvCQ&q=jon+ronson+david+icke#). There's a lot of background and archive clips on Icke's previous career in the UK in there as well.

Thanks for the link PerfumeV. Intersting stuff there...and I say that in an interesting way.....
It seems so more over the top than may ct's, I find it hard to understand anyone believing, yet they do. Then when you follow links sometimes you can see many disturbed posters. Makes you feel guilty laughing :boggled:

joe911
9th October 2009, 02:17 PM
Googlewack "michael tsarion atlantis" Theres a cutdown version [2 hours] of the original 12 hour presentaiton for a full understanding of the reptillian conspiracy.

tsig
9th October 2009, 03:07 PM
No that's down the hall and to the right.

But I've said too much already. I've put the entire forum at risk. If you don't hear from me in 3 days I want you to take your sister and get out of the city. I don't care where you go, and I don't want to know. I just need to know that the two of you are safe. Don't worry about me, my traing has me prepared for things like this. I've got $1000 in umarked bills, my teddy bear and a cape in a locker at the bus station. We knew this could happen. I think I hear someone coming. I've got to get out of here.

Your towel! Don't forget your towel!!

Above all Don't Panic.!!!

tsig
9th October 2009, 03:12 PM
Googlewack "michael tsarion atlantis" Theres a cutdown version [2 hours] of the original 12 hour presentaiton for a full understanding of the reptillian conspiracy.

Unfortunately the more you understand it the less you will know.

Lensman
9th October 2009, 04:12 PM
The only time I think about this subject is when I see a post heading with "David Icke" (which I pronounce in my head as "Icky"), "Lizardoid" or "Reptiloid" in there - other than that not at all.

Paradox74
9th October 2009, 04:32 PM
The reptilians are my favorite conspiracy, and David Icke is my favorite whack-job. No lie.

It seems, as far as I can tell, to be based on the idea of "ZOMG! Reptiles appear in art and shizznit around the world and all the way back into ancient times!" Of course so do: Birds, commonly hunted animals like deer, predatory mammals (especially large cats), etc. So, based on this "evidence" it might not be shape-shifting reptiles that control the world, but shape-shifting buffalo. :rolleyes:

I would like to know what David Icke means by "the fourth dimension".

You're absolutely right about that.

Considering the "fourth dimension", I think he threw it in just to give it more zazz...or that's just from the After Dark series and not a part of Icke's original theory.

Furcifer
9th October 2009, 05:13 PM
Above all Don't Panic.!!!

Once my psyop training kicks in I'm all Fonzie.

I have to say that if I was ever going to come up with a conspiracy it would be much like the reptilian. It really plays on peoples paranoia, which is what a good conspiracy should do. In addition to that it has movable goals posts built in. You can't have your conspiracy tied down by logic and science. This is the major failing of Moon Hoaxers, 9/11 and to some extent JFK. They don't have a 4th dimension clause. You tag an extra dimension or two on and your free to say as you please. Genius.

Furcifer
9th October 2009, 05:16 PM
Considering the "fourth dimension", I think he threw it in just to give it more zazz...or that's just from the After Dark series and not a part of Icke's original theory.

:chores005:

:P

Macgyver1968
9th October 2009, 10:41 PM
Holy crap on a crust...I never knew about this. I clicked on that link, and now it's going to take a week to wash all the woo off. Seriously..this is level 4 hazmat suit material.

Nosi
10th October 2009, 11:27 PM
Doesn't the fourth dimension have to do with time?

dropzone
11th October 2009, 10:39 PM
Which is being remade, and looks awesome.So you associate Freddy Krueger with awesomeness?

Biscuit
12th October 2009, 02:02 PM
I'd like to just put forward my vote for the most likely alien MP...Andy Burnham. He can't be human.

/http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Sport/Pix/pictures/2008/06/05/AndyBurnhamPASteveParsons.jpg

Joking of course.

Even Icke's own fans think he might be one himself...

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84181

OMG! I swear I have not edited this post from that link.

If he is, he is one of the good kind. I vote for me to be my overload any day of the week.

I would vote to be my own overlord too but I didn't know that was an option.

Or this one,

t's not possible given what he's done. Why would he expose this whole agenda when he was one of them himself? It doesn't make sense. Besides, if we was consciously aware of being a reptilian then he would undoubtable show us in a video of him shape-shifting or something.

Bolding is mine.

SezMe
12th October 2009, 02:16 PM
The reptilians and the mole people are fighting out a secret war for world domination. In 2012 we will know the result.
I think we know the result already. That little Geico bastard is everywhere.

Nosi
12th October 2009, 06:49 PM
OMG, we gots a civil war on our hands!
:eek:

zaphod2016
12th October 2009, 07:36 PM
There is a scorchingly good documentary by occasional JREF poster Jon Ronson - whose book is the source material for the upcoming movie The Men Who Stare At Goats

I wanted to go see that- it looks excellent.

- about this theory. It's available on Google Video and is called The Lizards and the Jews (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2912878405399014351&ei=BFjPSoD4AZCl-AbvofXvCQ&q=jon+ronson+david+icke#). There's a lot of background and archive clips on Icke's previous career in the UK in there as well.

I second this documentary; very well made.

GreNME
14th October 2009, 11:32 AM
There is a scorchingly good documentary by occasional JREF poster Jon Ronson - whose book is the source material for the upcoming movie The Men Who Stare At Goats - about this theory. It's available on Google Video and is called The Lizards and the Jews (http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-2912878405399014351&ei=BFjPSoD4AZCl-AbvofXvCQ&q=jon+ronson+david+icke#). There's a lot of background and archive clips on Icke's previous career in the UK in there as well.

I second this documentary; very well made.

I thought it was okay for about 30 minutes, and the second-to-last segment with one conspiracy theory "coalition" basically behaving like Icke is preaching was horrible. After that the rest was rather boring.

Steelmage
14th October 2009, 11:53 PM
My thoughts on the Reptilian Conspiracy?

It is going sssssplendid.

Dubbi
15th October 2009, 12:28 AM
Please help. I can't tell if this is a parody:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXKESd1AlrU

Dubbi
15th October 2009, 12:47 AM
Here is more of this wierdo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7TKKL9V4Hsg

Should this turn out to be serious, I reserve the right to stundie this video.

Andrew Wiggin
15th October 2009, 02:05 AM
What do I think? I think you shouldn't eat the brown acid. That trip will leave you spun out and feeling pretty seriously wierd, man.

A

Furcifer
16th October 2009, 04:17 AM
Yesterday's Balloon Boy's father is a Reptilian Conspiracy nutter. Enough said.

Nosi
16th October 2009, 08:37 PM
That family tree is pretty darn freaky man...

aviolet4u
16th October 2009, 10:03 PM
This conspiracy scares me the most, I can't even watch youtube videos trying to prove they are real. I pause it and read the comments. Seeing that the video you posted is receiving 5 stars doesn't help.

If anything I would want Bigfoot to be real, seems harmless:D

Nosi
17th October 2009, 01:16 PM
This conspiracy scares me the most, I can't even watch youtube videos trying to prove they are real. I pause it and read the comments. Seeing that the video you posted is receiving 5 stars doesn't help.

If anything I would want Bigfoot to be real, seems harmless:D

Paris Hilton is real.:dl: