Why truthers are dangerouse!

[911kongen]

As amusing as all this banter is, have the twoofers been able to prove that members of their movement did not kill 3 police officers, two doctors, a security guard, assault an elected official, stalk dozens of others, beat up a girl in a wheelchair and smuggle guns and explosives to wanted fugitives?

Well?

I know it is a lot to ask for, but do you have any source on this? Would LOVE to have collected all attacks made by twoofers an conspiracy-nuts and make a blogg about it. Maby updating it every time we have a new attack!

[UWdude]

As amusing as all this banter is, have the twoofers been able to prove that members of their movement did not kill 3 police officers, two doctors, a security guard, assault an elected official, stalk dozens of others, beat up a girl in a wheelchair and smuggle guns and explosives to wanted fugitives?

Well?

I wonder how many of those attackers fell into any of these categories:
Democrat
republican
Christian
Pot smoker
On clinical antidepressants
etc, etc


I can say, without a doubt, that christian women by and large are much more likely to kill their children. Does that then mean christian women are dangerous?

[Sam.I.Am]

I wonder how many of those attackers fell into any of these categories:
Democrat
republican
Christian
Pot smoker
On clinical antidepressants
etc, etc


I can say, without a doubt, that christian women by and large are much more likely to kill their children. Does that then mean christian women are dangerous?

*insert "Your mom" joke here*

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I know it is a lot to ask for, but do you have any source on this? Would LOVE to have collected all attacks made by twoofers an conspiracy-nuts and make a blogg about it. Maby updating it every time we have a new attack!

Truthers killing:

3 Pittsburgh Police Officers (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Pittsburgh_police_shootings)
(Suspects reading material list is a who's who of 9/11 twoof sites)

Doctor #1 (http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/search?q=Sean+Fitzgerald)
(Killer was victims son, an officer of the local "We Are Change" and one-time Alex Jones guest)
Doctor #2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_George_Tiller#Anti-government_activism)
(Convicted killer of abortionist Dr. George Tillers beliefs just scream 9/11 truther, however no confirmation of 9/11 wackiness from him has emerged yet)
US National Holocaust Museum Security Guard (http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2009/06/holocaust-museum-shooter-was-9-11.html)
(James Von Brunn was a confirmed truther, died a few months ago in prison hospital due to health issues unrelated to the shooting)

Since I posted the "hit list" you responded to, 9/11 truther John Patrick Bedell (http://screwloosechange.blogspot.com/2010/03/pentagon-shooter-truther-fits-nutbar.html) opened fire on two police officers at the Pentagon. Bedell died shortly thereafter from wounds received from the officers return fire.

[UWdude]

Truthers killing:
en.wikipedia org/wiki/2009_Pittsburgh_police_shootings"]
3 Pittsburgh Police Officers
(Suspects reading material list is a who's who of 9/11 twoof sites)

or a white supremecist, since he visited stromfront


screwloosechange.blogspot com/search?q=Sean+Fitzgerald"]
Doctor #1
(Killer was victims son, an officer of the local "We Are Change" and one-time Alex Jones guest)

also had serious mental problems, a concussion, probably on medications.

Doctor #2
(Convicted killer of abortionist Dr. George Tillers beliefs just scream 9/11 truther, however no confirmation of 9/11 wackiness from him has emerged yet)

then why list it?

US National Holocaust Museum Security Guard
(James Von Brunn was a confirmed truther, died a few months ago in prison hospital due to health issues unrelated to the shooting)

Confirmed truther? By who? Geraldo?

9/11 truther John Patrick Bedell
opened fire on two police officers at the Pentagon. Bedell died shortly thereafter from wounds received from the officers return fire.

Also pot smoker, on antidepressants.

some other similarities:

all of them were white males: therefore, white males are dangerous

most of them had been in the military: therefore, all ex military are dangerouse.

Most of them had psychiatric problems, and were more than likely on medications: therefore psychiatric medications are dangerous.

Some of them were known to smoke herb... lock em all up!!



Also, if we were to be completely honest, and wanted to view this "skeptically", we would have to quantify up all the mass shootings, and then see what percentage of them had been precipitated by "truthers", if less than 25% of them had been, then the "truther" part would be irrelevant.


You can color it however you want, but correlation =/= causation. I would venture to bet most domestic shootings are committed by people who listen to either country or hip-hop, and while country and hip-hop both for their own reasons give unrealistic views of relationships, it is not the fault of the said types of music, that cause people to murder their family members.

[Grizzly Bear]

I don't think it's so much the label of truther that's the causation as much as it is that the people happen to be "truthers" on the side. This is one of the few threads where I disagree with the association being made. :\

To commit murder requires a sick mind to begin with and not all people with crazy ideas are inclined to go as far a killing another person. The "danger" if anything may well be the "information" as one of the ways society is influenced is through the flow of it. The movement continues trying to exploit people's ignorance in relevant fields to sway opinions and my main concern would more lie in how much this incompetence and ignorance begins to infest professional fields of study. Get one of these crazies to practice bat poo crazy methodology in a professional work environment would endanger lives. But associating crime with the requirement to be a bat poo crazy conspiracy theorist is a broad and often inaccurate association (although the lack of condemnation of the sickest individuals within the movement is probably as disturbing as some people committing the crimes being in their ranks).

[Prometheus]

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You can color it however you want, but correlation =/= causation. I would venture to bet most domestic shootings are committed by people who listen to either country or hip-hop, and while country and hip-hop both for their own reasons give unrealistic views of relationships, it is not the fault of the said types of music, that cause people to murder their family members.

True, but so what? Who cares if being a truther causes one to become dangerous? The correlation is important, whatever the cause. Of course, it's also true that we don't actually know that even a significant correlation exists from such a small number of cases. But if a correlation can be established that certainly tells us that its wise to stay away from truthers even if the real cause is that truthers are more likely to be drug-addicted, neo-nazi, ex-military crazies, or whatever.

[eddyjoke]

I don't know what really happened on 9/11 but I know that governments have done evil things in the past and will continue to do evil in the future.

Did the government literally knock the towers down? Maybe not.

But there are other claims about foreknowledge and how they reacted to 9/11 afterwards.

Why there is such a rush to condemn people who are interested in finding out truth is a bit disheartening.

[TexasJack]

I don't know what really happened on 9/11 but I know that governments have done evil things in the past and will continue to do evil in the future.

Did the government literally knock the towers down? Maybe not.

But there are other claims about foreknowledge and how they reacted to 9/11 afterwards.

Why there is such a rush to condemn people who are interested in finding out truth is a bit disheartening.

Nobody is condemning the people that can't figure out how to properly research or discern the information that overwhelmingly points to the 19 hijackers, funded and planned by Al Qaeda, but those truthers that resort to violent methods, hence the OP of this thread, are being condemned.

[Christopher7]

you lie.liar!

[Dave Rogers]

Why there is such a rush to condemn people who are interested in finding out truth is a bit disheartening.

There is no rush, and the condemnation is because they show no sign of interest in finding out the truth, but rather in distorting and misrepresenting the evidence to support an untrue theory. You don't find the truth by starting with the story you want to end up with, then rejecting or lying about all the evidence that doesn't agree with it, yet that's what conspiracy theorists invariably do.

Dave

[JihadJane]

. You don't find the truth by starting with the story you want to end up with, then rejecting or lying about all the evidence that doesn't agree with it, yet that's what conspiracy theorists invariably do.

Dave

And what the NIST reports did...

[grandmastershek]

And what the NIST reports did...

Until you people provide the invisible silent explosives that would have been needed to pull this off all you're doing is playing the Pee Wee Herman game of discuourse.

[Newtons Bit]

And what the NIST reports did...

Evidence? I've yet to see a single claim about the NIST reports by a truther that turned up to be true. They are invariably quote mines or misunderstandings because they lack a basic engineering education.