Nick Griffin on the BBC tonight

[scarlettinlondon]

Will be interesting here in the UK, will be watching

[Marduk]

do BNP policies interest you ?
:p

[NWO Sentryman]

Well, he got Pwned

[Aitch]

And the BNP are complaining about it:


And a BNP spokesman complained that the programme had focused entirely on Mr Griffin's views and ignored newsworthy stories such as the postal strike, Afghanistan and Europe.

"This was not a normal Question Time," he told BBC Radio 4's Today programme. "It was 'let's have a go at Nick Griffin time'."


Fuller report here (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8321683.stm).

[Think_Tank]

It was good to see that his grasp of history was as tenuous as his equal opportunities policy.

Claiming that the "indiginous people" of Britain had been here since the last Ice Age was priceless. Invaders such as Celts, Romans, Saxons, Vikings and Normans would probably disagree.

Hell, if I don't have any hairy-arsed Viking berserker blood in my genetic makeup somewhere, I'll be greatly disappointed!

But frankly, if Griffin wants to claim that his heritage is Neolithic, who am I to argue :D

[Marduk]

retard, just retard

message ends
:rolleyes:

[Filippo Lippi]

It was good to see that his grasp of history was as tenuous as his equal opportunities policy.

Claiming that the "indiginous people" of Britain had been here since the last Ice Age was priceless. Invaders such as Celts, Romans, Saxons, Vikings and Normans would probably disagree.

Hell, if I don't have any hairy-arsed Viking berserker blood in my genetic makeup somewhere, I'll be greatly disappointed!

But frankly, if Griffin wants to claim that his heritage is Neolithic, who am I to argue :D


My question to BNP apologists who make this "indiginous people" claim -

"I have reddish hair and blue eyes, but we know a relative on my mother's side of the family came to England from Milan in 1810 and my surname probably means there's some Hugenot French ancestry there too, so am I British?"

Cue handwaving.

[wollery]

I have ancestry that can be traced all the way back to the Domesday Book, at least some of my ancestors were Angles. I also have Eastern European Jewish ancestry.

So where the hell do I stand? :boggled:

[Filippo Lippi]

Ask them and watch them squirm.

I'd buy you a pint, duck.

[Dave Rogers]

I have ancestry that can be traced all the way back to the Domesday Book, at least some of my ancestors were Angles. I also have Eastern European Jewish ancestry.

So where the hell do I stand? :boggled:

Over there by the big trench with your back to the man holding the gun, if the BNP get their way.

Dave

[Guybrush Threepwood]

Over there by the big trench with your back to the man holding the gun, if the BNP get their way.

Dave

That is a vicious slur on the BNPs policies and proposals. As Wollery is presumably white, not Muslim, and speaks English with a proper (non-foreign) accent, he would be welcomed with open arms as an indigenous Briton (provided he doesn't insist on bringing up the unfortunate Jewish connection).

[cyborg]

I await the BNP Britishness DNA testing kit with anticipation.

[Perfume V]

And a BNP spokesman complained that the programme had focused entirely on Mr Griffin's views and ignored newsworthy stories such as the postal strike, Afghanistan and Europe.

Which should have made it a lot easier for him, shouldn't it? He didn't have to swot up on any other topics, just sit there and explain what he believes and why for an hour. And yet he still stammered and twitched his way through it like a schoolboy in front of the headmaster.

[scarlettinlondon]

do BNP policies interest you ?
:p

all policies interest me

[Information Analyst]

Considering his father was one of the first into Belsen after it was liberated, I thought Dimbleby was remarkably restrained under the circumstances.

[dafydd]

Nick Griffin in his younger days sporting a white power tee shirt.
http://www.thebnp.org/images/BNPNaziNickGriffin01a.jpg

[CriticalSock]

Haha! That NF on the National Front flag looks like the kind of secret symbol my 5 year old nephew would come up with! :)

[Information Analyst]

Haha! That NF on the National Front flag looks like the kind of secret symbol my 5 year old nephew would come up with! :)
It was probably designed to make it as quick and easy as possible for the Neaderthals to daub on walls before running away.

[zooterkin]

Which should have made it a lot easier for him, shouldn't it? He didn't have to swot up on any other topics, just sit there and explain what he believes and why for an hour. And yet he still stammered and twitched his way through it like a schoolboy in front of the headmaster.

He probably spent his time swotting up on the topics that would normally be expected to come up, and didn't have time left to work out his evasions properly.

[dudalb]

Nick Griffin in his younger days sporting a white power tee shirt.
http://www.thebnp.org/images/BNPNaziNickGriffin01a.jpg

Oh, he's an Oswald Mosley wannabe.

[Wudang]

Read and weep
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?forumID=7149&sortBy=2&edition=1&ttl=20091023184751#paginator

I despair, I really really do.

[Guybrush Threepwood]

Read and weep
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?forumID=7149&sortBy=2&edition=1&ttl=20091023184751#paginator

I despair, I really really do.

I don't know, I only read the first page, but there was something strangely homogenous about those comments, almost as if there was a script somewhere. But maybe I'm just being paranoid.

[Ian Osborne]

I know what you mean, but I bet those recommendations are part of an orchestrated campaign.

[zooterkin]

To take just the first comment, which seems to be fairly representative:
Nick Griffin stands up and says what a lot of people in the UK think on subjects like immigrations, Muslims and homosexuality, but they are too frightened to say it because of political correctness.

I think it's half true. There are a lot of people who think that way in the UK. However, the reason I know this is that they aren't frightened to say it. From my unscientific survey, a lot of the older generation (I would say over 60s) seem to be casually racist. They were brought up in a different society and don't see why they should change their views to accommodate people they see as different from them. My impression is that younger people tend to have much more multi-cultural experience, both directly and through the media, though the former varies greatly depending on which part of the UK you live in.

[MaGZ]

Read and weep
http://newsforums.bbc.co.uk/nol/thread.jspa?forumID=7149&sortBy=2&edition=1&ttl=20091023184751#paginator

I despair, I really really do.

Thanks, made my day.

[Information Analyst]

I know what you mean, but I bet those recommendations are part of an orchestrated campaign.
Bingo!

BNP Social Network "Operation Fightback" (http://bnp.org.uk/groups/operation-fightback)

[Debaser]

To take just the first comment, which seems to be fairly representative:


I think it's half true. There are a lot of people who think that way in the UK. However, the reason I know this is that they aren't frightened to say it. From my unscientific survey, a lot of the older generation (I would say over 60s) seem to be casually racist. They were brought up in a different society and don't see why they should change their views to accommodate people they see as different from them. My impression is that younger people tend to have much more multi-cultural experience, both directly and through the media, though the former varies greatly depending on which part of the UK you live in.

I've always suggested that 'the British' are actually a much more liberal nation than often appears in the soundbites. Yes, you get the usual chunterring from some sections about immigrants, etc. but ultimately, as long as other peoples actions do not impinge on them then I think the majority of Britons don't actually mind who you are, what you do, or where you come from, so long as you pull your weight.
After all, this is the country that refined the art of 'eccentricity' and dreamed up the statement 'an Englishmans home is his castle', something I take to mean as 'you are perfectly at liberty to do what you will, to as many people and as often as you have the stamina for , so long as everyone is consenting, you don't make too much noise, and I don't have to know about it if I don't want'.

[whatthebutlersaw]

That is a vicious slur on the BNPs policies and proposals. As Wollery is presumably white, not Muslim, and speaks English with a proper (non-foreign) accent, he would be welcomed with open arms as an indigenous Briton (provided he doesn't insist on bringing up the unfortunate Jewish connection).

That decription fits me, would the fact that I was born and raised in a completely different country be a problem? Do I get a badge? Or does he reserve the badges for anyone who do not fit that description?

[The Don]

That decription fits me, would the fact that I was born and raised in a completely different country be a problem? Do I get a badge? Or does he reserve the badges for anyone who do not fit that description?

I think Nick Griffin is on record stating that Northern Europeans share a cultural heritage with the British and so as Aryans in good standing will quickly assimilate into his idea of Britain. If you're from Northern Eurpoean stock (but nothing too Slavic) then you should be OK.

Anyone who is suspiciously dark (I assume this also includes the Welsh) should be encouraged to be voluntarily repatriated. I believe that he has said that one drop of black blood can ruin a perfect heritage. If this is the case then I think is consituency is much smaller than it thinks it is (and I think he should avoid DNA testing at all costs).

[Fiona]

I believe that he has said that one drop of black blood can ruin a perfect heritage. If this is the case then I think is consituency is much smaller than it thinks it is (and I think he should avoid DNA testing at all costs).

I think this is very unfair. It is perfectly obvious that he would not change his view at all if he discovered he was not wholly racially pure. I am convinced that he would accept the facts and seek to return to his proper place of origin as soon as he possibly could

I know this because Nick Griffin is not a bigot. He sincerely believes, on the basis of the best scientific and social evidence, that different races should not live together. He understands that we are culturally diverse and that it is not possible to truly assimilate into any other culture even after several generations. It follows that when he got to wherever he should be he would feel a strong sense of "belonging".

It may be that his discomfort with multi cultural Britain derives from just this: that he should really be somewhere else. I think he should take a test soon and then he can find a place to call home.

If this were not true it would make him a hypocrite. I cannot believe that of him for a moment

;)