Anyone running "HACKINTOSCH"

[Darat]

Came across a reference to it in another thread and I was wondering if anyone has got it up and running and if so was it worth the effort?

[GreNME]

My brother's work has one set up for testing, and he says it's pretty nifty. I've not bothered to try because, well, I'm typing this post right now on my MBP.

It's apparently not too difficult, but as far as "worth the effort" I'd say no, if only because the updater needs to be turned off or the OS won't work (or update) properly. This means downloading and installing all the updates manually. Not worth the pain, when even on command-line Linux you can update more painlessly than that.

[Ducky]

Not worth the pain, when even on command-line Linux you can update more painlessly than that.

Therein lies the rub. Most who hackintosh their rigs aren't going to bother, and that leaves some security updates and kernel updates left out.

Then again, if you're adventurous enough to run OpenSolaris, the LiveUpdate/patching process could also be a pain to the uninitiated. Same with BSD flavors.

Honestly it boils down to this:

Are you doing this specifically so you can run a Mac app, or for the geek cred/fun? If for the latter, just install linux. It's a bit more painless than a hackintosh.

[Terry]

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Then again, if you're adventurous enough to run OpenSolaris, the LiveUpdate/patching process could also be a pain to the uninitiated. Same with BSD flavors.

What's so hard about pkg image-update followed by a reboot?

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[BenBurch]

Macs have gotten so cheap that its really not worth the effort unless your time is worth nothing.

[Ducky]

What's so hard about pkg image-update followed by a reboot?

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Typing in a shell is hard for n00bs. Clear, easy and graphical updates are far easier for them.

[ddt]

Macs have gotten so cheap that its really not worth the effort unless your time is worth nothing.

Ahem. MacBookPro 17 inch: € 2,299.
My HP Pavillion, also 17 inch: € 599.
It has a little bit less of everything, but we're talking a price difference of factor 4.

Mind, I liked my iBook (and that the hibernate actually works), but this price difference is a bit outrageous.

Anyone know if Hackintosh works on VMs like Xen or KVM? I looked at a couple of sites about Hackintosh, but the only reference to VMs I found was to install XP in a (VMWare) VM on top of Hackintosh. I'd like the other way round - to run MacOS in a VM on my Linux box.

[GreNME]

Anyone know if Hackintosh works on VMs like Xen or KVM? I looked at a couple of sites about Hackintosh, but the only reference to VMs I found was to install XP in a (VMWare) VM on top of Hackintosh. I'd like the other way round - to run MacOS in a VM on my Linux box.

Oooh, now that's an idea. I wonder if I could get it into VirtualBox.

Apparently, yes (http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2076&sid=844f4c665799d467d40507fde8795647)

[ddt]

Oooh, now that's an idea. I wonder if I could get it into VirtualBox.

Apparently, yes (http://forums.virtualbox.org/viewtopic.php?f=4&t=2076&sid=844f4c665799d467d40507fde8795647)

Interesting! I see that VirtualBox also uses Qemu for its hardware emulation, so then KVM or Xen should be easy too.

Here's one for KVM (http://alex.csgraf.de/self/?qemu/). :D

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Anyone know if Hackintosh works on VMs like Xen or KVM? I looked at a couple of sites about Hackintosh, but the only reference to VMs I found was to install XP in a (VMWare) VM on top of Hackintosh. I'd like the other way round - to run MacOS in a VM on my Linux box.

I did that for my Linux box.

Just as quickly got rid of it. You need some more powerful hardware to do that, I guess. It was very, very slow.

[ddt]

I did that for my Linux box.

Just as quickly got rid of it. You need some more powerful hardware to do that, I guess. It was very, very slow.

Could be a lot of factors. My iBook G4 ran MacOS 10.3 Panther, and that worked fine. The PPC G4 was not a very powerful processor compared to its contemporary Intel/AMD offerings, let alone the current ones.

What processor was in your Linux box? Which virtualization software did you use, including version number?

[GreNME]

Interesting! I see that VirtualBox also uses Qemu for its hardware emulation, so then KVM or Xen should be easy too.

Here's one for KVM (http://alex.csgraf.de/self/?qemu/). :D

As far as know, VirtualBox only uses a little of Qemu for its emulation, which is why the Qemu hack mentioned in that thread apparently doesn't work (or is slow). There's apparently a boot loader hack out there called "Boot-132" or something that helps the boot loading process, but again you're going to need hardware close to what Apple uses for it to work without problems.

So far the answer to whether it can be done is yes, but with qualifications and not with stellar results (most use a hacked image), in my opinion. Having the OS on a VM but not being able to update it or make use of it as a test-bed for an actual Macintosh makes it pretty much a non-starter for me right now.

[Tsukasa Buddha]

Could be a lot of factors. My iBook G4 ran MacOS 10.3 Panther, and that worked fine. The PPC G4 was not a very powerful processor compared to its contemporary Intel/AMD offerings, let alone the current ones.

What processor was in your Linux box? Which virtualization software did you use, including version number?

Core 2 Duo T5500
2.9 GB RAM
VMware Workstation 6.5

[Kestrel]

Therein lies the rub. Most who hackintosh their rigs aren't going to bother, and that leaves some security updates and kernel updates left out.

Then again, if you're adventurous enough to run OpenSolaris, the LiveUpdate/patching process could also be a pain to the uninitiated. Same with BSD flavors.

Honestly it boils down to this:

Are you doing this specifically so you can run a Mac app, or for the geek cred/fun? If for the latter, just install linux. It's a bit more painless than a hackintosh.

There are certain low end netbooks such as the Dell Mini 9 that run quite well as a Hackintosh. They happen to use most of the same chipsets that Apple used on it's systems and OS X drivers are available for the rest of the hardware. I have played with Andy Inatko's Hackintosh (http://www.vimeo.com/3630135) and it's a rather slick little machine. If you want a really small OS X portable (Apple doesn't make anything smaller than a 13 inch), one of these will do nicely.

[GreNME]

There are certain low end netbooks such as the Dell Mini 9 that run quite well as a Hackintosh. They happen to use most of the same chipsets that Apple used on it's systems and OS X drivers are available for the rest of the hardware. I have played with Andy Inatko's Hackintosh (http://www.vimeo.com/3630135) and it's a rather slick little machine. If you want a really small OS X portable (Apple doesn't make anything smaller than a 13 inch), one of these will do nicely.

Oh, Hell Yeah.

Doesn't look like it works with the Mini 10, though some reports say the Mini 10v does work (same video card as the 9).

Definitely going to check Dell's outlet store for refurbs for this.

[Kestrel]

Oh, Hell Yeah.

Doesn't look like it works with the Mini 10, though some reports say the Mini 10v does work (same video card as the 9).

Definitely going to check Dell's outlet store for refurbs for this.

Just make sure you are getting one of the exact models and versions known to work.