God's name in orbits of electrons

[El Greco]

I'm not sure whether I should post this under Humor, but here it goes:

God's name in orbits of electrons (http://members.lycos.co.uk/code/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=19)

GOD'S SIGNS IN PHYSICS (http://members.lycos.co.uk/code/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=12)

Lots of other indisputable proofs can be found in the main page (http://members.lycos.co.uk/code/) :D

[lifegazer]

Scientific knowledge is reducible to a singular reality... a singular essence. Hence, a singular law (of physics) applying to all existence.
The only difference between a scientist and a theist, is that a theist states that this reality is God, and a scientist states that he doesn't know what that reality is.

[espritch]

The only difference between a scientist and a theist, is that a theist states that this reality is God, and a scientist states that he doesn't know what that reality is.

The interesting thing is that they are both saying exactly the same thing except that the theist is calling his ignorance God and worshiping it.

[lifegazer]

Originally posted by espritch


The interesting thing is that they are both saying exactly the same thing except that the theist is calling his ignorance God and worshiping it.
So, everybody is ignorant of the truth, is an absolute truth?
Wakey wakey.
Scientists don't know what reality is. Theists claim that 'God' is reality. And some theists claim to know that God is reality.
So the difference between a theist and a scientist is more marked than you mention. Not all theists base their acknowledgement of a God upon need or fear. Another dispelled myth.

[espritch]

And some theists claim to know that God is reality.

Yes they do. Of course you can claim to know pretty much anything as long as you don't have to provide any kind of proof to back it up. I don't find that kind of "knowledge" particularly compelling.

Not all theists base their acknowledgement of a God upon need or fear. Another dispelled myth.

Don't you mean "Another straw man burned?" I made no assertion about either need or fear. I don't really claim to know what precisely compels some people to invent answers to questions they can't answer. Fear and need are only a few of the possible motives.

[shemp]

I dunno about electrons, but after a few beers I can write his name in the snow.

[lifegazer]

Originally posted by espritch
Yes they do. Of course you can claim to know pretty much anything as long as you don't have to provide any kind of proof to back it up. I don't find that kind of "knowledge" particularly compelling.

All kinds of philosophers = rational people, have been reasoning the case for the existence of God since the time of the ancient Greeks. Notably, philosophers, even amidst these "modern" times, still reason for the existence of that entity.
Those of you besmirching the existence of this entity amongst such "modern times" have been fooled or are afraid (of God).

Take care brothers.

[Yahweh]

Originally posted by lifegazer
Scientific knowledge is reducible to a singular reality... a singular essence. Hence, a singular law (of physics) applying to all existence.
Nope, Science is still working on a Grand Unified Theory (or Theory of Everything). Until we figure out the mysteries of Gravity, we wont have our singular Law of Physics just yet...

Edit to add: Minor booboo on my part. Theories of Everything must be distinguishable from Grand Unified Theories. Theories of Everything try to unite all 4 fundamental forces, Grand Unified Theories try to unite all the fundamental forces except gravity. Unified Field Theories (which unite electromagnetic and weak nuclear force into electroweak force) have already been established. Sorry for any confusion...

[Mercutio]

Originally posted by espritch


The interesting thing is that they are both saying exactly the same thing except that the theist is calling his ignorance God and worshiping it.
:clap: :clap: :clap:

[Yahweh]

Originally posted by El Greco
I'm not sure whether I should post this under Humor, but here it goes:

God's name in orbits of electrons (http://members.lycos.co.uk/code/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=19)

GOD'S SIGNS IN PHYSICS (http://members.lycos.co.uk/code/modules.php?name=Content&pa=showpage&pid=12)

Lots of other indisputable proofs can be found in the main page (http://members.lycos.co.uk/code/) :D
:D

:dl:

[Mercutio]

Originally posted by lifegazer

All kinds of philosophers = rational people, have been reasoning the case for the existence of God since the time of the ancient Greeks. Notably, philosophers, even amidst these "modern" times, still reason for the existence of that entity.
Those of you besmirching the existence of this entity amongst such "modern times" have been fooled or are afraid (of God).

Take care brothers. Other philosophers have made the case against...have you read any of them? You really ought, you know...

[lifegazer]

Originally posted by Yahweh

Nope, Science is still working on a Grand Unified Theory (or Theory of Everything). Until we figure out the mysteries of Gravity, we wont have our singular Law of Physics just yet...
No finite material entity can be held responsible for the whole of creation. The simplest reason has evaded modern man, en masse. But not forever. Certainly not this day.
I wish you well people. And I am not talking about your bodies.
Take care.

[Yahweh]

Originally posted by lifegazer

All kinds of philosophers = rational people, have been reasoning the case for the existence of God since the time of the ancient Greeks. Notably, philosophers, even amidst these "modern" times, still reason for the existence of that entity.
Those of you besmirching the existence of this entity amongst such "modern times" have been fooled or are afraid (of God).

Take care brothers.
Believe me, I (Yahweh) am afraid of no god(s).

Leprachauns on the other hand... *shudders* I get the willies if I even hear the word "Leprachaun" *shudders*...

[lifegazer]

Originally posted by Yahweh

Believe me, I (Yahweh) am afraid of no god(s).

Leprachauns on the other hand... *shudders* I get the willies if I even hear the word "Leprachaun" *shudders*...
To be unafraid of omnipotence whilst unaccepting of omnipresence, is omnidumbness. Enjoy your splash upon the beach. It means nothing to the ocean. But everything to the wave.

[Dancing David]

To understand all in one, refute the rest but rely upon the same proof for all.

If god is omni present and omni potent then I have no need to fear god for god made me the way that I am and revels in my life.

Enjoy your glass of beer, it makes no differenece to the cake, but is all the meaning the ouke has.

Silly Solstice, Happy Birthday Baby Jeebus!

[c4ts]

Originally posted by lifegazer
Scientific knowledge is reducible to a singular reality... a singular essence. Hence, a singular law (of physics) applying to all existence.
The only difference between a scientist and a theist, is that a theist states that this reality is God, and a scientist states that he doesn't know what that reality is.

Somehow I get the impression that you don't know reality from the back of your hand...

[lifegazer]

Originally posted by Mercutio
Other philosophers have made the case against...have you read any of them? You really ought, you know...
I come across skeptical philosophy on a daily basis. The point I make, is that there is serious reason to think a God exists. Halfwits who crack jokes all the time at God's expense, do so by unveiling their own ignorance.

[Upchurch]

Originally posted by El Greco
I'm not sure whether I should post this under Humor, but here it goes: I think we maybe need a new forum board:

:wow2: XTREME RATIONALIZATION! :wow2:

Selective acceptence of facts...

TO THE XTREME!!!

[Mercutio]

Originally posted by lifegazer

I come across skeptical philosophy on a daily basis. The point I make, is that there is serious reason to think a God exists. Halfwits who crack jokes all the time at God's expense, do so by unveiling their own ignorance. I did not ask whether you came across it, I asked if you ever read it. Certainly, serious attempts at proving the existence of god have been made. I have read many. My point was that serious attempts at explaining the world without the existence of god have also been made. If you had read any, my next question would have been about your reactions to them. Instead, you unveil your own ignorance. Bummer, actually.

[WonderfulWorld]

Perhaps lifegazer would share these "serious reason[s]" with us, so we will not be so ignorant. I was raised Baptist (oy), and have looked at religion from many perspectives over my 36 (oy) years. And all of them end up being intellectually circular: you have to believe (or want to believe) in the first place, or it just doesn't work. "Reason" has nothing to do with it.

Science, on the other hand, requires evidence and proof, all of which is open to revision based on better evidence.

[RussDill]

Originally posted by Upchurch

TO THE XTREME!!!

is that a running gag?

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

Note new second sig line.

~~ Paul

[Folly]

Lifegazer said
To be unafraid of omnipotence whilst unaccepting of omnipresence, is omnidumbness. Enjoy your splash upon the beach. It means nothing to the ocean. But everything to the wave.

You know, Lifegazer, that struck me really oddly. I wasn't sure why. Then it hit me. Someone, somewhere (sometime!) had a web page that generated random "profound sounding" statements, with zero meaning (barring an extraordinary coincidence.) That sounded an awful lot like that.

[lifegazer]

Originally posted by Folly
Lifegazer said


You know, Lifegazer, that struck me really oddly. I wasn't sure why. Then it hit me. Someone, somewhere (sometime!) had a web page that generated random "profound sounding" statements, with zero meaning (barring an extraordinary coincidence.) That sounded an awful lot like that.
Wasn't me. I've never had a website.
The meaning of this is there for those who sincerely look.

[WonderfulWorld]

Originally posted by lifegazer

The meaning of this is there for those who sincerely look.
Again, perhaps you'd like to explain, since no one else understood. If I accept neither omnipotence nor omnipresence, then why should I be afraid of either? I don't go about my life fearing the nonexistent. In fact, this is one of the first lessons we must teach a child -- there's nothing in the closet, there's nothing under the bed, there's nothing to be afraid of, now GO TO SLEEP.

[Dragonrock]

Originally posted by lifegazer

The meaning of this is there for those who sincerely look.

Woah...maybe if I have another toke then everything will suddenly become clear to me.

man, the colors are awesome...

[juryjone]

Originally posted by lifegazer

To be unafraid of omnipotence whilst unaccepting of omnipresence, is omnidumbness. Enjoy your splash upon the beach. It means nothing to the ocean. But everything to the wave.

Hey, lifegazer, when you can snatch the pebbles from my hand, it will be time for you to leave.

[El Greco]

The mighty one does not forgive. You may look through the eyes of the lobster, but the predators have not satiated their hunger yet. The abyss will prevail.