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leafman91
27th October 2009, 07:19 AM
I've been reading recently about the Soviet forces finding hundreds of dead green gloved Tibetan monks in SS uniform across Berlin when they seized Berlin at the end of the war. No papers or anything, just hundreds of dead Tibetan monks in SS uniform with green gloves. Google lead me to the society green men, supposedly a group of Tibetan occultists who agreed to help Hitler. Something about Agarthi came up, which is the opposite of Shambhala (heaven for Tibetan monks)

First question:
What evidence is there of Hitlers/ the Nazi's link with occultism and Nazi investigation into alternative/paranormal phenomena/groups for the war effort?

Second question: Any reliable sources which confirm/debunk the idea of Tibetan monks in Berlin?

Third question: Any clue as to what Tibetan monks may have been doing with green gloves and SS uniforms?

Gord_in_Toronto
27th October 2009, 09:21 AM
Mounting a presentation of Spring Time for Hitler? :duck:

zooterkin
27th October 2009, 09:27 AM
Where did you read it? If they were wearing SS uniforms, and had no papers, how were they identified as Tibetan monks?


ETA: This might be what you're looking for (http://newdawnmagazine.com.au/Article/Behold_the_Green_Dragon.html).

pakeha
27th October 2009, 10:15 AM
Good find, zooterkin.

leafman91
27th October 2009, 03:41 PM
Where did you read it? If they were wearing SS uniforms, and had no papers, how were they identified as Tibetan monks?


ETA: This might be what you're looking for (http://newdawnmagazine.com.au/Article/Behold_the_Green_Dragon.html).

The book was 'Conspiracy Files' by David Southwell and Sean Twist. The book itself is fairly confusing, as while in some places it makes the distinction between reality and myth, in others both are presented as the same. The book always includes an element of scepticism with each article, but often such views don't deal with the bigger picture, and in some cases exist as one line of logical argument. While I can't say much for his counterpart, David Southwell is a parapolitical/paranormal investigator with 20 years of research under him. He pertains a cynical view of the subject he deals with, but not much of a sceptical one (the distinction is there).The book tries to feign a position of neutrality towards the subject. I wouldn't call it the greatest source in the world, but it does deal in evidence, and from what I recall, I have yet to see most of this disputed.

The facts according to Southwell:

a 'well known' of arm of the SS that dealt with paranormal/occult investigations, the 'Ahnenerbe' conducted 2 prewar trips to Tibet in search of allies there.
Just found this article: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1939_German_expedition_to_Tibet
confirming it.

That during the final days of the war, Soviets advancing on Berlin discovered the bodies of several Tibetan monks wearing green gloves in a cellar, 'as part of some arcane ritual', and over the next few days, hundreds more were discovered, all lifeless in green gloves and SS uniforms, but lacking identifying papers. I can't find anything whatsoever on this, and Southwell does note: '...this element of the war tends to be glossed over in history books...'. Southwell doesn't list any further reading in the book, nor does he give any sources apart from the acknowledgements page in the back,which are fruitless, frankly. There are mentions of Karl Hauschoffer, whoever he is, and apparently,this guy was brought into the Order Of The Green Dragon, whatever that is, and this helped put the Tibetan monks inside the cellars.

Thanks for the link, it has helped me out, especially with ruling out the Agarthi aspect of it. I will chase up the texts listed.

NoZed Avenger
27th October 2009, 03:49 PM
ETA: This might be what you're looking for (http://newdawnmagazine.com.au/Article/Behold_the_Green_Dragon.html).

Coollsville.

commandlinegamer
27th October 2009, 04:10 PM
Now it makes sense: Bruce Lee discovered their secret past and had to be liquidated.

Safe-Keeper
27th October 2009, 05:47 PM
Nazi Buddhists! Sounds like a Dead Snow sequel.

Kiosk
27th October 2009, 07:14 PM
Good song, though.

"Gregoror, satiated walking through capital
Stumbles on two thousand dead Thai monks in SS uniforms
Then fled to Hotel Bloedel, outside Nuremberg
A long way south, to a reasonable smell of death..."