Muslim 'Duty'.

[Hux]

I found this interesting, from Atheistforums. com, from a forum leader.

http://www.atheistforums.com/is-any-other-religion-like-islam-t18418.html#426825



Dear friends, as some people here are not much familiar with islam as regard concept of JIHAD I am going to try and clarify it.

You may have heard some muslim saying that jihad can only be started by an ameer al momineen=a muslim ruler of an islamic state. This in actual fact is not true rather Jihad in islam is FARD AL-KIFAAYA.

According to islam a fard=binding duty is of two kind a)FARD AL-AIN and b)FARD AL-KIFAAYA. Fard ain is a duty of each and every individual adult sane muslim but fard alkifaaya is not rather it is duty on whole of the ummah as a group eg daily five prayers are fard al-ain but funeral prayer is fard alkifaaya ie not every muslims needs to be part of a funeral prayer at a muslims funeral however at least some muslim must carry out this duty or whole islamic ummah will have committed a major sin.

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http://www.muslimsandislamic.faithweb.com/

[Mister Agenda]

It may have been more fortunate for the Muslims than the kafirs, the numbers of Muslims have had a great opportunity to increase in the period they were less warlike.

[Darat]

I found this interesting, from Atheistforums. com, from a forum leader.

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What did you find interesting about it?

And does he, at any point, ever actually do what he stated he would at the start "Dear friends, as some people here are not much familiar with islam as regard concept of JIHAD I am going to try and clarify it."?

[Hux]

It seemed rather different from the usual apologist Jihad explanation. That's why I found it interesting. It will be interesting to see how his fellow Muslims respond.

[Darat]

It seemed rather different from the usual apologist Jihad explanation. That's why I found it interesting. It will be interesting to see how his fellow Muslims respond.

Sorry not following you - different to what " usual apologist Jihad explanation"?

[Hux]

Morning Darat. I am refering to the explanation given about 'personal struggle'. Whats up? Can't sleep?

[Darat]

Morning Darat. I am refering to the explanation given about 'personal struggle'. Whats up? Can't sleep?

Sorry that doesn't help - you say you are comparing this to something else but you have been very vague about what the "something else" is - can you point me to an example of "usual apologist Jihad explanation" that you think it should be compared against.

Otherwise I havenae a chance of understanding why you think the quote was "interesting".

[Hux]

I found it interesting. If you did not; fine. I do not see I need do anything else.

[Darat]

Of course you don't have to explain yourself but it is hard to have a discussion about something if one side doesn't want to participate. I was genuinely interested to know what you found interesting in the post you quoted.

[Hux]

Of course you were.

[Sideroxylon]

Of course you don't have to explain yourself but it is hard to have a discussion about something if one side doesn't want to participate. I was genuinely interested to know what you found interesting in the post you quoted.

I was also interested enough to revisit this thread a couple of times for the same reason but I guess its going nowhere.

[FireGarden]

It seemed rather different from the usual apologist Jihad explanation. That's why I found it interesting. It will be interesting to see how his fellow Muslims respond.

His fellow Muslims?
SecularRealist asked: Are you a Muslim?

pr126 replied: No, Mughal is an apostate, an ex Muslim.

Mughal said: Thanks pr for clarifying that for our friend secular realist.


Have I missed something?

[Beerina]

not every muslims needs to be part of a funeral prayer at a muslims funeral however at least some muslim must carry out this duty or whole islamic ummah will have committed a major sin.

As psychologists have known for 50 years, and politicians for thousands, if you want to stop a behavior in a society, don't just punish the perps, but punish the people who allow the perps to do this.

It's interesting God is using cynical (and discredited as ethical) psychological techniques of mass manipulation to get people to support murdering His political opponents.

Can't God murder His own political opponents?