Bible Prophecy Checklist!

[XxDeadlyNinjaxX]

http://www.theprophecies.com/checklist1.html

Hmm, haven't things like this always been happening?

[Marduk]

yup, religious people have always believed bs

[Pure Argent]

Israel brought back into her Land again as a Nation (and the nations of the world won't like it)

Hasn't happened yet.

□ Jerusalem . . . trouble and more troubles . . . a "cup of trembling," a "burdensome stone"

Too vague to mean anything.

□ Wars and rumors of wars . . . increasing

No way to measure, always happening.

□ "Ethnic against ethnic"... tensions and ethnic wars . . . increasing

No way to measure, always happening.

□ Global famines and starvation . . . increasing

Hasn't happened yet.

□ Deadly diseases spreading . . . and increasing

No way to measure, always happening.

□ Earthquakes in "diverse" places . . . increasing

Always happening.

□ Europe? . . . Strong nations mixed with weak nations from the Roman Empire re-uniting in power

No way to measure.

□ A "peace plan," "treaty," or "resolution" being prepared for Israel (and enforced after the Rapture)

No way to know.

□ False Prophet(s) leading many ... and keeping many away from Christ, the promised Messiah

...and always being dubbed "False Prophets", conveniently, by those who want you to believe.

□ Some kind of extraordinary sights or signs from space.

Too vague to mean anything.

□ The Bible provides a clear description of the Generation who will lead the world into the 'Apocalypse'...
"But know this, that in the last days perilous [savage, fierce] times will come, for men (mankind ... men and women) will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boasters, proud, blasphemers (mocking God and Jesus), disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, unloving, unforgiving, slanderers, without self-control, violent [brutal], despisers of good, traitors, headstrong, arrogant [haughty],<snip forever more bull>

Always happening, vague.

□ Christians (followers of the Messiah) will be hated

And who defines hatred? Conveniently, Christians. Persecution complex, anyone?

□ "Lukewarm" churches no longer teaching (or even "enduring") sound Biblical doctrine

And hardcore Christians, once again, conveniently decide.

□ Church leaders and churches corrupting from within . . .

As determined by Christian fundies.

□ Jerusalem! A call to battle . . . all nations of the world will turn against the tiny nation of Israel

Hasn't happened yet.

So... it's all crap, yeah.

[HansMustermann]

Actually, what makes that list idiotic is that a lot of those things are actually on a decline.

E.g., wars... even with the likes of Iraq and Afghanistan, the fact is that we live in a period of extraordinary peace. If you look at history, most civilizations at the time when the Bible was written had pretty much yearly wars. And if you look even further, most tribal societies are pretty much at perpetual war with their neighbours, and as a member of such a tribe you'd have up to 60% chance to die in battle instead of in your bed. Or here's a bit of history-geek trivia: in Rome the custom was that if the doors of the temple of Janus were open, Rome was at war; during the Republic those doors have only been closed twice.

So they think _now_ it's gotten worse enough to be a sign of the apocalypse? Did they sleep in history class or are they homeschooled?

Ethnic wars: ditto.

Deadly disease spreading? Are they freaking kidding? The medieval Black Death outbreaks wiped out up to 80% of the population in cities, slightly less in the less dense country side. Or the pox outbreaks in the first centuries AD depopulated Rome from over 1 million people (or even 2 million by some estimates) to 10-20,000 survivors living among acres of ruins and abandoned buildings. At the peak of the outbreaks, up to 5000 people a day were dying in Rome alone. And then came Justinian's plague and it made Italy's population and economy pretty much implode. And in Constantinople alone it killed 10,000 people a day at its peak.

And they think _now_ it's bad that maybe a dozen people worldwide died of swine flu? Are these people serious?

A generation that's sexually immoral? You mean like when the Emperor of the HRE thanked the city for providing a few thousand prostitutes for the church council? Heh.

Some churches no longer teaching what other churches consider sound doctrines? You mean unlike the massively spread heresy of Arius before? Or the schism between byzantium and Rome that's been brewing for centuries before the final rift? Cathars? The Reformation wars? WTH, if they think that's new, they haven't even paid attention to their own religion's history.

And so on and so forth...

[Brian-M]

I noticed that there's almost no references given in that list, which makes it almost impossible to look them up and check their context. I wonder if this was deliberate, or just incompetence? For example, I was recently given a pamphlet by a Jehovah's Witness. One of the prophecies it quoted predicting the end of the world was...


Bible prophecy says: "In the days of those kings [human rulerships now existing] the God of heaven will set up a kingdom [in heaven] that will never be brought to ruin... it will crush and put an end to all those kingdoms [present rulerships], and it itself will stand to times indefinite." (Daniel 2:44)



So I looked up the quote in The Bible too see why they assumed that the kingdoms being talked about were "present rulerships", and found a better description of these kingdoms in Daniel 2:39-40...

After you, another kingdom will rise, inferior to yours. Next, a third kingdom, one of bronze, will rule over the whole earth. Finally, there will be a fourth kingdom, strong as iron - for iron breaks and smashes everything - and as iron breaks things to pieces, so it will crush and break all the others.


Since there has not yet been a "kingdom" that ruled "over the whole earth", then our "present rulerships" cannot be the "kingdoms" referred to by this prophecy. Because more than three "kingdoms" have followed in the thousands of years since the time of king Nebuchadnezzar, this is clearly a failed prophecy. I'm still trying to figure out if their use of that prophecy was the result of deliberate deception or just stupidity. :confused:

Did they sleep in history class or are they homeschooled?

Probably the latter. :)