Cured her own HIV

[NullPointerException]

Yes another miracle woman who cured aids! Go woo woo power, how do you explain this you perfect skeptics!

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&u=/ap/20040102/ap_on_he_me/hiv_lawsuit&e=1

[Mycroft]

I read the article, but I'm not sure what you think needs to be explained. Either she was misdiagnosed, or the treatment worked.

I don't follow AIDS research very closely, but isn't it possible to erase all traces of the virus from the body except in the lymph nodes?

[CFLarsen]

"Cured her own HIV"??

Did you read the article at all? She was misdiagnosed. That's what she sues for.

She did not "cure her own HIV". How did she cure this? What methods did she use?

AFAIK, nobody has been cured of HIV yet. The symptoms can be controlled.

[Skeptic]

(puzzled look)

Er, she doesn't claim to have been cured of HIV, let alone self-cured. She claims she never had it in the first place and doctors misdiagnosed her--not at all the same thing.

[CFLarsen]

Sometimes, we see a paranormal claim being refuted by facts.

Sometimes, they even refute themselves.....

[NullPointerException]

Yet another skeptic cover-up for incidences when Woo-woo techniques succesfully cure life threatening illnesses that may not have existed in the first place. Anyone with the words Doctor, Amazing, or Revolutionary in or around their name are infallible. Therefore this is an obvious case of divine intervention by my God(and yours even though you don't know it).

Mycroft, she did not have AIDS therefore even if what you stated is true you would need to establish the same for HIV.

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by NullPointerException
Yet another skeptic cover-up for incidences when Woo-woo techniques succesfully cure life threatening illnesses that may not have existed in the first place. Anyone with the words Doctor, Amazing, or Revolutionary in or around their name are infallible. Therefore this is an obvious case of divine intervention by my God(and yours even though you don't know it).

Mycroft, she did not have AIDS therefore even if what you stated is true you would need to establish the same for HIV.

What "cover-up"? What "woo-woo techniques"? What are you talking about??

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by NullPointerException
Anyone with the words Doctor, Amazing, or Revolutionary in or around their name are infallible.

I think I shall change my name to Doctor Amazing Revolutionary. You can all call me DAR for short.

Three times the infallibility that way.


Seriously, Null, the article doesn't seem to be saying the same thing you are saying. Can you explain your point more clearly? Thanks.

[Prester John]

Theres no claim for self cure in the article. Although it may well arise later if sufficient income generation opportunities present themsleves.

[NullPointerException]

To those in the know, this is a parody of the "magical" children in california who were misdiagnosed as having AIDS and than cured themselves miracously the next time they were tested.

[xouper]

CFLarsen: AFAIK, nobody has been cured of HIV yet.See, for example,

"Clearance of HIV Infection in a Perinatally Infected Infant"
by Yvonne J. Bryson, et al, NEJM, March 30, 1995, Vol. 332, No. 13

There have since been other cases of infants born with HIV that later were cleared of the virus. At no time did they ever have AIDS, though.

I mentioned this previously in another thread:

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=1870229088#post1870229088

NullPointerException: To those in the know, this is a parody of the "magical" children in california who were misdiagnosed as having AIDS and than cured themselves miracously the next time they were tested. If you are referring to the case I cited above, then may I ask for some evidence that it was a misdiagnosis?

[CFLarsen]

Originally posted by NullPointerException
To those in the know, this is a parody of the "magical" children in california who were misdiagnosed as having AIDS and than cured themselves miracously the next time they were tested.

To those not "in the know" (which you seem to be), could those be enlightened just a bit?

Originally posted by xouper
See, for example,

"Clearance of HIV Infection in a Perinatally Infected Infant"
by Yvonne J. Bryson, et al, NEJM, March 30, 1995, Vol. 332, No. 13

There have since been other cases of infants born with HIV that later were cleared of the virus. At no time did they ever have AIDS, though.

I mentioned this previously in another thread:

http://www.randi.org/vbulletin/showthread.php?s=&postid=1870229088#post1870229088

Interesting!

[xouper]

Addendum to my previous question:

NullPointerException: To those in the know, this is a parody of the "magical" children in california who were misdiagnosed as having AIDS and than cured themselves miracously the next time they were tested.For some reason I can't seem to locate my notes (including sources) on this when I researched it a couple years ago. A quick google search, however, turns up some of them, although this is by no means a complete list.

http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/332/13/833 (http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/abstract/332/13/833)

http://www.research.ucla.edu/chal/2blvd.htm (http://www.research.ucla.edu/chal/2blvd.htm)

http://www.aegis.com/news/lt/1995/LT950309.html (http://www.aegis.com/news/lt/1995/LT950309.html)

http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SUA03/hiv_baby_seroconverts.html (http://www.accessexcellence.org/WN/SUA03/hiv_baby_seroconverts.html)

http://www.s-t.com/daily/05-96/05-05-96/1aidsbby.htm (http://www.s-t.com/daily/05-96/05-05-96/1aidsbby.htm)

There has obviously been some skepticism, including Bryson herself, and cases prior to the one reported by Bryon were largely anecdotal. However, the above cites strongly indicate that there was no misdiagnosis in this particular case. And because of this particular case, subsequent cases have been under close scrutiny to avoid any misdiagnosis.

Anyway, I would be interersted in some of your research notes on this matter. Thanks.


Edited to fix links.