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a_unique_person
26th February 2003, 03:03 AM
Clash over voting machines
Wednesday 26 February 2003, 16:05PM

At least one in 10 voters in the United States cast ballots in the last presidential election on electronic voting machines, whose popularity is growing as counties replace the antiquated systems blamed for Florida's hanging chad debacle.

But in Silicon Valley, computer scientists want to halt the trend - at least until voting machines are redesigned to produce a paper record of every vote. They say paper backups offer more protection against hackers - or political hacks - who might tamper with electronic results.

The debate over the security of voting computers reached a peak this week, when the Santa Clara County board of supervisors tentatively approved an investment of $US20 million ($A33 million) in 5,000 touch-screen machines.

The machines, whose screens look similar to ATM screens, allow voters to press a button to make their choices or touch keys to write in a candidate's name. But unlike ATMs, the terminals approved for Santa Clara County do not produce paper receipts.

The paperless system angered computer scientists gathered for the board meeting. If supervisors had rejected the contract bids and required a paper trail, Santa Clara would have become the nation's first county to purchase the so-called voter-verified paper backup system.

"I'm disappointed," said Peter G. Neumann, principal scientist at the computer science lab at Menlo Park-based SRI International. "You'd think we'd have enough of an understanding of computers to know that a voter-verified paper backup system is the absolute only way you can have any integrity whatsoever in elections."



http://www.theage.com.au/articles/2003/02/26/1046064096610.html

Worrying, the potential for undetectable fraud with a purely electronic system is incredible.

Reginald
26th February 2003, 03:08 AM
what was wrong with putting an "X" in the box?

Worked well for years.

Sometimes quicker is not always better.

Wolverine
26th February 2003, 04:58 AM
Originally posted by Reginald
what was wrong with putting an "X" in the box?

Worked well for years.

Still does, in my neck of the woods. Much as I like high-tech goodies, completing a ballot with paper and pencil is quite satisfying. :)

GreyWanderer
26th February 2003, 06:12 AM
They are talking about voting over the internet here in Norway. Hopefully they people who are too lazy to get out of the house to vote will vote then.

Aoidoi
26th February 2003, 08:05 AM
Originally posted by Reginald
what was wrong with putting an "X" in the box?

Worked well for years.

Sometimes quicker is not always better. It gets to be a problem in places with large populations. There's also something of a problem with fraud amongst the people counting, and it's pretty easy to stuff a ballot box that way.

Of course with computers you can still taint the results it just takes a little more technical ability but is probably harder to find out. A paper backup system seems prudent. Why not vote at a machine, have it print out a paper copy and drop the paper copy in the little box as a backup if the computer croaks? That seems like a prudent move, I wonder why the town disagreed.