100 year old pedophile released from prison.

[Cainkane1]

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/breakingnews/article_212272561.shtml?ref=rss

[Skeptic]

Now that's a REALLY dirty REALLY old man.

[Arcade22]

There was an Scientology ad on that page... :eek:

[Darth Rotor]

http://www.postchronicle.com/news/breakingnews/article_212272561.shtml?ref=rss
They sending him to Lybia? They might want to do that for his own safety, if this DA spokesman is allowed to remain in office.
"Mr. Sypnier is the personification of evil and should be removed from civilized society permanently, until the day he dies," Erie County District Attorney Frank Sedita III said. "He is an unrepentant child molester who has been doing this or trying to do this for 60 years. He can't be cured. He's not sick. He's evil. He's not old. He's evil."
Sir, the man served his sentence. You are part of the system. This outburst doubtless plays to people who are still pissed off at this man for his crimes. We note that the DA's office failed to get him executed, failed to get him a life sentence without parole ... shoot yourself in the foot much, Mr Sedita?

By the way, Mr Sedita, he is old. Being old and being evil are not mutually exclusive. He may be sick and he may be incurable. Which is of course evil. ???

While my emotional sentiments are roughly aligned with his, I think a ball gag for Mr Sedita is in order until he learns how to give a public statement.

DR

[Ryokan]

He's not old. He's evil.

He can't be both?

[Damien Evans]

At 100, how's he gonna catch a kid to rape them anyway?

[Cainkane1]

I have a question about the personality disorder called pedophelia. What if a pedophile who had not committed the crime came into a psychiatrists office looking for treatment? Back in the 70's I read an article where the advice to those seeking treatment was to get into an adult relationship and stay the hell away from children. However is there no cure for this? What if kids live with him or her already?

[The Central Scrutinizer]

At 100, how's he gonna catch a kid to rape them anyway?

He'll have to rape someone his own age.

[Ryokan]

At 100, how's he gonna catch a kid to rape them anyway?

He seemed to manage fine at 90...

Well, not rape but abuse anyway.

[INRM]

What is your opinion on civil commitment proceedures? Some states have successfully committed sex offenders after they served their jail sentence. The supreme court has actually upheld this.

It kind of strikes me as being imprisoned twice for the same offense.

Do you think this is acceptable always, or under some circumstances, or never acceptable? If you do not think this is acceptable ever, do you think sentencing laws should be revised to increase jail time for certain individuals.


And by the way, I don't want to hear a SINGLE person tell me "If you were a father you'd understand" or "Would you want a person like that near your kids?"

Of course if I was a father I'd be scared about such a person, and if I was a father, I would not want such people near my kids. However, we can't always let fear drive our actions to the extent of ignoring the Constitution, and violating the civil-rights all citizens (and in some cases all people) are entitled to.

[Cleon]

There's been a TV show based on his exploits for years. He's really not that much of a threat.


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[Pinkymcfatfat]

I keep getting mental pics of 'Herbert' from "Family Guy"....wait they came from the post above!

[Cainkane1]

At 100, how's he gonna catch a kid to rape them anyway?
At his age a kid could probably whip his ---. The drawback is that the perverted old buzzard would enjoy it.

[plumjam]

Well, viagra eventually had to have a downside.
...err.... not that I'm advocating it be banned, you understand.

[Eyeron]

At 100, how's he gonna catch a kid to rape them anyway?

Tranquilizer dart gun.

Never underestimate a person because of age or gender.

[Almo]

What is your opinion on civil commitment proceedures? Some states have successfully committed sex offenders after they served their jail sentence. The supreme court has actually upheld this.

It kind of strikes me as being imprisoned twice for the same offense.

Do you think this is acceptable always, or under some circumstances, or never acceptable? If you do not think this is acceptable ever, do you think sentencing laws should be revised to increase jail time for certain individuals.

I've never liked the sex offender registries. Recidivism is clearly a problem with certain crimes. But branding people doesn't seem like the right solution to me. Unfortunately, I can only say I don't like that system; I don't have a good idea myself.

[Carnivore]

The article says that after his initial release he was returned to jail in '07 for violating his parole conditions. He would have been 98 then. Everything about this case is repellent, but for some reason, that impresses me. Sure he's evil, but he's commiting to it.

[Eyeron]

Well, why not? If you have not other choice in the matter you might as well commit to the path that's been laid out for you.

[godofpie]

"Mr. Sypnier is the personification of evil and should be removed from civilized society permanently, until the day he dies," Erie County District Attorney Frank Sedita III said. "He is an unrepentant child molester who has been doing this or trying to do this for 60 years. He can't be cured. He's not sick. He's evil. He's not old. He's evil."

This quote bothered me as well. I don't believe in evil. It doesn't exist. It was created to give "good" something to do battle with. The truth is that there is healthy or appropriate behavior and there is unhealthy or inappropriate behavior. I'm not against punishment like chemical castration and I believe that whatever legal steps are necessary to keep this guy locked up or closely supervised until his death is completely appropriate but demonizing medical disorders, no matter how abhorrent we might find them, doesn't help anyone.

[The Drain]

I've heard many references to 'chemical castration' before but I don't know what it is. What does it do? Does it remove, completely, one's sex drive? Is it permanent, or does it require an injection every few months?

And more to the point - does it work? If a committed paedophile is chemically castrated, is that person then safe to leave with children?

[Cainkane1]

Prozac does that.

[Ryokan]

I've heard many references to 'chemical castration' before but I don't know what it is. What does it do? Does it remove, completely, one's sex drive? Is it permanent, or does it require an injection every few months?

Ask Alan Turing.

[Carnivore]

Well, why not? If you have not other choice in the matter you might as well commit to the path that's been laid out for you.

This quote bothered me as well. I don't believe in evil. It doesn't exist. It was created to give "good" something to do battle with. The truth is that there is healthy or appropriate behavior and there is unhealthy or inappropriate behavior. I'm not against punishment like chemical castration and I believe that whatever legal steps are necessary to keep this guy locked up or closely supervised until his death is completely appropriate but demonizing medical disorders, no matter how abhorrent we might find them, doesn't help anyone.

His medical conditions, if any, and his sexual orientation don't make him evil. His decision to keep acting on his desires to the extreme detriment of children makes him evil.

At any given moment he - like most sex offenders- will refrain from committing his crimes if he thinks he would be caught then and there. His compulsion is not such, for instance, that he would molest children in front of uniformed police officers. Therefore at any given moment he has the choice as to whether or not to commit a crime. That he so chooses every time he thinks he can get away with it is entirely his responsibility, no matter how strong his desire.

To say he has no choice is wrong, and puts his crimes into the same category as lightning strikes, for which no one bears any responsibility.

Cainkane1 raised an interesting point about peadophiles who refrain from committing the crimes that would give them sexual fulfillment. Thinking about it, It seems likely that some such individuals exist and choose celibacy or a relationship that doesn't provide what they truly desire. If these people do exist, giving Sypnier a free pass on moral responsibility seems unwarranted. (No, I don't know how you would establish that non-criminal padophiles exist.)

[INRM]

Almo,

Well, I personally think each sex offender convicted should have to undergo an individual risk assessment. If deemed to be a danger, they register, if not they don't.

[Damien Evans]

There's been a TV show based on his exploits for years. He's really not that much of a threat.


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That is exactly the image I had in mind when I clicked on the thread.

[Ducky]

Good news everybody! I've invented a machine in which you read about 100 year old pedophiles while hearing my voice in your head!

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[Moochie]

There's been a TV show based on his exploits for years. He's really not that much of a threat.


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You beat me to it -- I thought of Mr. Herbert straight away. But then he seems to have an infatuation for Chris Griffin, so I don't think he'd be a threat to anyone else. Can never be sure, though.


M.

[Moochie]

Prozac does that.


I've found that to be the case with 5 or 6 of the top-selling antidepressants. You take them, and then you need an antidepressant for the antidepressant. They're all seriously lacking in efficacy, IMO.


M.