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Some Friggin Guy
4th January 2004, 09:35 PM
I received an e-mail from my parents (still devoutly christians and extremely conservative) regarding the "keep god in the pledge and on our money" thing. It said:

A recent survey shows that 86% of all Americans believe in God, yet there's a big deal about having "In God we trust" on our money and saying "under God" in the pledge. Isn't it about time we told the other 14% to SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP?!

Aside from being incredibly offensive, it got me thinking:

Is there a survey out there that breaks down that 86%?

What percentage of Americans believe in the judeo-christian god? What about allah? And what percentage believes in the pagan gods? How many are ceramonial deists? And of the judeo-christian crowd, how many are bible literalists?

I think it's entirely possible to deal with the study quoted in this e-mail by showing that the 86% has WIDELY differing definitions of "god".

Sanamas
4th January 2004, 09:47 PM
http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20040101-110805-1766r.htm

That strongly resembles the above piece of garbage by Pat Boone. I suppose the idea that the minority should be at the mercy of the majority is how he thinks the government should work. Someone should introduce him to the Federalist Papers (51 I think).

Some Friggin Guy
4th January 2004, 09:51 PM
This is the same Pat Boone who thought it would be a good idea for him to remake "Highway to Hell"?


Yeah, I'm going to trust this guy...

Dorian Gray
4th January 2004, 10:32 PM
With all due respect to your parents, you should e-mail them a copy of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights and then put them on spam-block.

Some Friggin Guy
4th January 2004, 10:46 PM
I would be more than happy to do that if I didn't stand to inherit quite a bit of money.

Okay, I'm altruistic and charitable, but I'm not an idiot.

Darat
5th January 2004, 01:21 AM
Originally posted by Some Friggin Guy
I would be more than happy to do that if I didn't stand to inherit quite a bit of money.

Okay, I'm altruistic and charitable, but I'm not an idiot.

Sounds like your motivations for keeping in with your parents are taken from good Christian values!

triadboy
5th January 2004, 11:30 AM
I'm sure there's some survey out there that shows most people believe in alien-driven UFOs. Should the ones who don't be subjected to anal probings?

Yahweh
5th January 2004, 09:40 PM
A recent survey shows that 86% of all Americans believe in God, yet there's a big deal about having "In God we trust" on our money and saying "under God" in the pledge. Isn't it about time we told the other 14% to SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP?!
:dl:

:big:

Ratman_tf
5th January 2004, 11:28 PM
And if 89% of the population wanted to outlaw belief in God, would they be right because they're in the majority?

epepke
6th January 2004, 08:07 PM
Originally posted by Some Friggin Guy
Is there a survey out there that breaks down that 86%?

I have no joke.

I would, however, like to point out that 14% is about the same percentage of people in the US who are African-American.

The idea
6th January 2004, 08:30 PM
Originally posted by Some Friggin Guy
I received an e-mail from my parents (still devoutly christians and extremely conservative) regarding the "keep god in the pledge and on our money" thing. It said:

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A recent survey shows that 86% of all Americans believe in God, yet there's a big deal about having "In God we trust" on our money and saying "under God" in the pledge. Isn't it about time we told the other 14% to SIT DOWN AND SHUT UP?!
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Over 90% of all Americans believe that Pope Paul exists, so why would it be a big deal to have "In Pope Paul we trust" on US currency?

Also, why have it on money as opposed to, for example, on government inspected meat or drivers' licenses or income tax return forms?

c4ts
6th January 2004, 09:05 PM
Just because someone believes in God doesn't mean they approve of it being on our money or in the pledge of allegeance.