Jewish settlers bring new Korans to Immam of attacked Mosque

[Thunder]

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1134687.html

I am a little speechless. I could imagine this act of generosity and kindness and brotherhood, coming from a Rabbi from within Israel. But from a settlement? I am indeed shocked.

Its the rare stories like this, that give one hope in the possibility of mankind.

:)

[Darth Rotor]

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1134687.html

I am a little speechless. I could imagine this act of generosity and kindness and brotherhood, coming from a Rabbi from within Israel. But from a settlement? I am indeed shocked.

Its the rare stories like this, that give one hope in the possibility of mankind.

:)
That's no way to run a pogrom. :cool:

[Thunder]

That's no way to run a pogrom. :cool:

no. it certainly is not.

lovely story though, ay DR?

"wait....Parky76 is posting a positive story about Israeli settlers? but..but..but!!!!"

[Darth Rotor]

no. it certainly is not.

lovely story though, ay DR?
It's nice when neighbors help neighbors, and treat them as they'd like to be treated ... I hear some guy who lived in that neck of the woods was real big on that. ;)

[Thunder]

It's nice when neighbors help neighbors, and treat them as they'd like to be treated ... I hear some guy who lived in that neck of the woods was real big on that. ;)

too bad Paul and then the Council of Nice came along and totally ruined Christianity. but that's for another thread. :)

[Marduk]

It's nice when neighbors help neighbors, and treat them as they'd like to be treated ... I hear some guy who lived in that neck of the woods was real big on that. ;)

Ave Caesar
:D

[Thunder]

i wonder who will ruin this thread by saying: "i bet muslims would not do the same thing, if the situation was reversed".

:(

[Madalch]

:p

[tyr_13]

i wonder who will ruin this thread by saying: "i bet muslims would not do the same thing, if the situation was reversed".

:(

Don't give people ideas.

[Skeptic]

Such cases of decency occur daily on both sides, though they usually don't get press. One case that did was that, a year or so ago two soldiers who accidentally wandered into the Kasba in Nablus (I think) were rescued by PA police. Certainly it also occurred that Arabs heard of, informed about, and stopped planned terrorist attacks.

Whatever many settlers might think about "the Arabs" in general, they don't think of their actual neighbors as "the Arabs". They think about them as people. Similarly with the PA police that saved the soldiers. They hate "the IDF", I am sure, but those two soldiers were not "the IDF" for them, but two unlucky bastards who need help.

If the situation was reversed, however, and there was a lot of press about a synagogue burned, you would not see Palestinians giving a Torah scroll to the settlers, I am afraid. Not because there are no decent Palestinians who would like to do it to show they had nothing to do with the burning, but because Hamas and Fatah "freedom fighters" would kill anybody who did it as a "traitor".

If you treat Jews decently in the PA, keep a low profile.

[gtc]

A Tongan Christian Church was burnt down in Sydney a few years ago, apparently as retaliation for racially motivated riot by whites targeting Middle Easterners in a beach side suburb.

I believe there were similar acts of generosity from the local Muslim community towards the members of the Tongan church community. Unfortunately I can't find the press reports about the help given after the fire.

It was the Auburn Uniting Church that burnt down in December 2005.

[Skeptic]

I like Tongans:

Oh, it's hard to say...
Flanders: "Oly-ma-kitty-luca-chi-chi-chi"

Both: But in Tonga, that means... "No"!

If I ever have the money,
'Tis to Tonga I shall go.
For each lovely Tongan maiden there,
Will gladly make a date.

And by the time she's said:

Flanders: "Oly-ma-kitty-luca-chi-chi-chi",

Both: It is usually too late!

(Completely off topic, I know)

[Eddie Dane]

I think there are many good deeds going on between the communities.

I worked as a volunteer at a Kibbutz that distributed fruit and vegetables for free to the occupied territories during the first gulf war. Apparently the situation was quite bad in the territories during the conflict.
The Kibbutzim aren't rich, but they gave away truckloads of produce.

When I told Muslim friends here in the Netherlands about this they stared at me in disbelief. They are so used to seeing all Israelis as the 'Zionist oppressor'.

Palestinians I met were cool people. visited them at home along with some guys from the Kibbutz.

Never give up hope for a solution to the situation. In the end we are all just people.

[Dr Adequate]

In parts of Indonesia, IIRC, there's a sort of twinning arrangement between Muslim and Christian villages, so that they do maintenance work on each others churches/mosques. I'd like to meet the genius who thought of that and shake his hand, but presumably this custom started a long time ago and he's dead.

[FireGarden]

In parts of Indonesia, IIRC, there's a sort of twinning arrangement between Muslim and Christian villages, so that they do maintenance work on each others churches/mosques. I'd like to meet the genius who thought of that and shake his hand, but presumably this custom started a long time ago and he's dead.

So you won't shake his hand just because he's dead? Bigot!

[JenseitsDavon]

Jeez, Dr. A, quit being such a vitalist and shake the guy's hand already!

[Skeptic]

Be nice to people who're / Inferior to you
It's only for a week so have no fear /
Be thankful that it doesn't last all year!

[davefoc]

too bad Paul and then the Council of Nice came along and totally ruined Christianity. but that's for another thread. :)

It is the subject for another thread, but it suggests for me, what is an interesting question: "Would Christianity exist today without Paul?"

Also a small correction: I think you were referring to the Council of Nicaea not the Council of Nice. And I don't think it is quite accurate to say that the Council of Nicaea totally changed Christianity. Christianity was already a fairly large movement by the time of the Council of Nicaea (in 325 CE) and the effect of the Council was to favor one branch of Christianity over Arianism and to provide a common doctrine for the developing religion.

As I see it Paul was a key player in the creation of Gentile Christianity which I think was a total change from the Jewish Christianity that proceeded it and I think it is reasonable to say that Paul totally changed Christianity.

[Thunder]

As I see it Paul was a key player in the creation of Gentile Christianity which I think was a total change from the Jewish Christianity that proceeded it and I think it is reasonable to say that Paul totally changed Christianity.

si senor.

he Gentilized and Romanized it. had it not been for his and future Roman influence, Christianity would have stuck to its original Judaic roots.

[davefoc]

si senor.

he Gentilized and Romanized it. had it not been for his and future Roman influence, Christianity would have stuck to its original Judaic roots.

And my guess, is that it would have died out. The whole issue of the early Jewish Christianity is murky. The Jesus-didn't-exist crowd might even argue that early Jewish Christianity didn't exist. I think it did, but it seems to have been a small movement that's main contribution to today's Christianity seems to be as a source for some of the underlying mythology of Christianity and probably as the spark that got Christianity going. A great deal of Christian mythology seems to have been made up either entirely or by massaging Old Testament mythology. I am not a biblical scholar (obviously) but I have had a long term interest in this issue and I've never seen clear cut evidence about the nature of early Jewish Christianity. Almost everything (maybe everything) is based on what can be gleaned from the New Testament and some writings by the early Church fathers. And that's not a lot.

And my apologies to others in this thread, this will be my last off topic post in this thread.

[Skeptic]

Yesterday in the papers in Israel: a couple was caught in a blazing apartment in a Jewish town, set accidentally by their hannukah candles. People called the fire brigades of course, but nobody dared enter the apartment due to the blaze. Three Palestinian workers, there by chance, burst into the apartment and rescued the couple.

One of the two leading papers in Israel arranged (at the rescued couple's request) a meeting between the rescuers and them to formally thank them, etc.

The headline in the paper in the story about the meeting is is a clever Hebrew pun: it is aravim ze la'ze. The meaning conveyed -- based on a partial quote from the Talmud the headline invokes in the reader's mind -- is either "We [Jews] are all responsible for each other" or "Arabs are responsible for our lives".