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UnrepentantSinner
5th January 2004, 09:27 PM
http://www.cbn.com/CBNNews/News/040105a.asp

As if Roberston's declaration that other day that God will re-elect Gee Dubyah wasn't bad enough today he put on Rummy's suit and bashed out new "enemies." Like a good little toady the phrase "old" Europe was used to push the point home.

Deimos
5th January 2004, 09:54 PM
It's interesting, though not surprising, that it's apparently appaling to the writer of the article that European leaders areagnostic/atheistic, yet it's great when Bush is overtly Christian.
And, where is the European rush to support terrorists and dictators, not to mention moral ambiguity?
Of course they're probably smug about the quagmire of Iraq, most of them started saying no to the idea of invading on day one.

aerocontrols
5th January 2004, 10:08 PM
The 700 Club's War on "Old" Europe
Sounds like a good poll topic:

Who would win, do you think?


MattJ

UnrepentantSinner
5th January 2004, 10:42 PM
Originally posted by aerocontrols
Who would win, do you think?

Well, "Old" Europe's has more population, but the 700 Club has more money.

shemp
6th January 2004, 05:08 AM
It will depend on who has more pointy sticks.

c0rbin
6th January 2004, 09:30 AM
Is it too ironic to pray that old Europe beats the snot out of the 700 Club?

Skeptic
6th January 2004, 02:35 PM
The 700 Club vs. Old Europe

Sounds like a good poll topic

...or a B-grade Japanese monster movie.

("Old Europe has awakened off Tokyo! Call the 700 Club!")

corplinx
6th January 2004, 05:58 PM
God told Robertson that Bush will win.

God told Robertson that he would win.

Say hello to future president Dean.

American
6th January 2004, 07:36 PM
Hungary, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, and other eastern european countries lived under forced socialism for 40+ years. Now they need us, as we need them.

Old Europe (except Spain, Portugal, and England) told us to F- ourselves when we needed them most. It makes me happy to see them rot in the ass-backward freakish cultural ways they have always been so proud of.


:eek:
Mon Dieu, Mama Mia!!!

UnrepentantSinner
6th January 2004, 08:02 PM
Originally posted by American
Old Europe (except Spain, Portugal, and England) told us to F- ourselves when we needed them most. It makes me happy to see them rot in the ass-backward freakish cultural ways they have always been so proud of.

Saying no thanks to an unnecessary invasion so Halliburton could pillage American tax dollars is saying "F-you?"

The Don
7th January 2004, 02:48 AM
Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner


Saying no thanks to an unnecessary invasion so Halliburton could pillage American tax dollars is saying "F-you?"

Absolutely, all the U.S. has ever asked from its allies is complete quiescence

Jon_in_london
7th January 2004, 03:02 AM
And of course, a true friend will never disagree with you when you are wrong.

charley_bigtime
7th January 2004, 03:25 AM
"Most of the media here (London) are dominated by liberals"

LOL!!!

Funny.

It wasn't a statue it was an effigy. Accurate representation huh?

And why is it specific to the article to mention that the man is Gay?

Toppled by "leftists"?

One gets the feeling that CBN has an alternate agenda - and a very sad one at that.

Jon_in_london
7th January 2004, 03:41 AM
Displaying a disturbing moral blindness, Europeans rush to support terrorists and dictators,


Europeans rush to...

hmmm.... How many of them? all of them? two of them?

What a daft article.

UnrepentantSinner
7th January 2004, 04:35 AM
Originally posted by charley_bigtime
"Most of the media here (London) are dominated by liberals"

LOL!!!

Funny.

It wasn't a statue it was an effigy. Accurate representation huh?

And why is it specific to the article to mention that the man is Gay?

Toppled by "leftists"?

One gets the feeling that CBN has an alternate agenda - and a very sad one at that.

CBN is the media mouthpiece for the reactionary religious right of the Republican party. Pat Robertson.. well, what can be said about Pat Robertson that he and his fellow travellers haven't said already themselves (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7027/quotes.html).

charley_bigtime
7th January 2004, 07:29 AM
Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner


CBN is the media mouthpiece for the reactionary religious right of the Republican party. Pat Robertson.. well, what can be said about Pat Robertson that he and his fellow travellers haven't said already themselves (http://www.geocities.com/CapitolHill/7027/quotes.html).

Ah....thought so.


Talent.




Thanks for the link btw.

American
7th January 2004, 07:39 AM
Originally posted by UnrepentantSinner

Saying no thanks to an unnecessary invasion so Halliburton could pillage American tax dollars is saying "F-you?"


Old Europe.

Crossbow
7th January 2004, 07:41 AM
Originally posted by American
Hungary, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, and other eastern european countries lived under forced socialism for 40+ years. Now they need us, as we need them.

Old Europe (except Spain, Portugal, and England) told us to F- ourselves when we needed them most. It makes me happy to see them rot in the ass-backward freakish cultural ways they have always been so proud of.


:eek:
Mon Dieu, Mama Mia!!!

True enough, they did not agree to help Bush in his war with Iraq, and when the crisis is over America will pack up its troops and go home. Whereas countries like France, Germany, and the others have the good fortune to be located much closer to Iraq and they would have to continue to deal with the problems that would ensue by agreeing to help with aggressive war for many years after it has faded from the front pages of American newspapers.

However, countries like Poland, Spain, Turkey, etc. are willing to risk the problems that would go with their minor involvements since they are being paid to do so.

Another fine example of the American thought process at work!

charley_bigtime
7th January 2004, 07:48 AM
Originally posted by Crossbow


Whereas countries like France, Germany, and the others have the good fortune to be located much closer to Iraq and they would have to continue to deal with the problems that would ensue by agreeing to help with aggressive war for many years after it has faded from the front pages of American newspapers.


I do hope you're not saying that the main reason for France, Germany et al not joining in with the invasion of Iraq is/was purely Geographical? ;)

Crossbow
7th January 2004, 07:53 AM
Originally posted by charley_bigtime


I do hope you're not saying that the main reason for France, Germany et al not joining in with the invasion of Iraq is/was purely Geographical? ;)

Not purely geographical, but I am sure that geography had a good bit to do with it.

Similar causes were offered during the 80's when President Reagan was attacking Libya and many in Central Europe were not very eager to sign on due to their large Arab population, trade ties, the citizens they had who were working and living in Libya, and the fact that Libya lies just across the Med.

charley_bigtime
7th January 2004, 09:34 AM
Originally posted by Crossbow


Not purely geographical, but I am sure that geography had a good bit to do with it.

Similar causes were offered during the 80's when President Reagan was attacking Libya and many in Central Europe were not very eager to sign on due to their large Arab population, trade ties, the citizens they had who were working and living in Libya, and the fact that Libya lies just across the Med.

Nah - doesn't make sense re: Germany/France when you consider they were part of the coalition in the first Gulf war. Why the sudden change of heart? I doubt proximity is an issue here.

American
7th January 2004, 09:35 AM
Originally posted by Crossbow


True enough, they did not agree to help Bush in his war with Iraq, and when the crisis is over America will pack up its troops and go home. Whereas countries like France, Germany, and the others have the good fortune to be located much closer to Iraq and they would have to continue to deal with the problems that would ensue by agreeing to help with aggressive war for many years after it has faded from the front pages of American newspapers.

However, countries like Poland, Spain, Turkey, etc. are willing to risk the problems that would go with their minor involvements since they are being paid to do so.

Another fine example of the American thought process at work!


Old West Virginia.

Crossbow
7th January 2004, 09:37 AM
Originally posted by charley_bigtime


Nah - doesn't make sense re: Germany/France when you consider they were part of the coalition in the first Gulf war. Why the sudden change of heart? I doubt proximity is an issue here.

Excuse me, but I just have to point out that in the first Gulf War there was widespread agreement,
there was UN backing, and
the goals were clearly defined.

As opposed to the second Gulf War which did not have idespread agreement,
where there was not UN backing, and
the goals were not clearly defined.

aerosolben
7th January 2004, 09:00 PM
Originally posted by Crossbow
Whereas countries like France, Germany, and the others have the good fortune to be located much closer to Iraq and they would have to continue to deal with the problems that would ensue by agreeing to help with aggressive war for many years after it has faded from the front pages of American newspapers.

However, countries like Poland, Spain, Turkey, etc. are willing to risk the problems that would go with their minor involvements,

Creative emphasis mine.

Geographical proximity is probably not a huge issue, unless I am way off base and this is a discussion about RISK.

charley_bigtime
8th January 2004, 01:35 AM
Originally posted by Crossbow


Excuse me, but I just have to point out that in the first Gulf War there was widespread agreement,
there was UN backing, and
the goals were clearly defined.

As opposed to the second Gulf War which did not have idespread agreement,
where there was not UN backing, and
the goals were not clearly defined.

So you agree it's not down to Geography having a "good bit to do with it" then?

Cheers.

Crossbow
8th January 2004, 05:40 AM
Originally posted by charley_bigtime


So you agree it's not down to Geography having a "good bit to do with it" then?

Cheers.

Just read my posts and you will find my answer.

However, if you need something clarified then please point the part that is giving you trouble and I will address it.

Crossbow
8th January 2004, 05:41 AM
Originally posted by American



Old West Virginia.

You are soooo sweet!

Crossbow
8th January 2004, 05:49 AM
Originally posted by aerosolben


Creative emphasis mine.

Geographical proximity is probably not a huge issue, unless I am way off base and this is a discussion about RISK.

What I am talking about is the risk that can occur when one's country is located near another country that is undergoing serious problems.

Or put another way, if you have a picnic next to a bee hive, then you should expect to get stung.

OK now?

charley_bigtime
8th January 2004, 06:22 AM
Ah...the bit that's giving me trouble.

OK.

Why is it that this Mineral water that says "filtered through volcanic rock for seven years" on the bottle has a sell by date of three months hence......?


>What I am talking about is the risk that can occur when one's country is located near another country that is undergoing serious problems.

Hmmm...

The Canadians must be panicking in the streets then. :p

c0rbin
8th January 2004, 09:00 AM
The Canadians must be panicking in the streets then.

If they start suicide bombing Americans, they will.