9-11 Truth hero Charlie Sheen arrested for domestic violence

[Thunder]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091225/ap_en_ot/us_charlie_sheen_arrested

its a set up!!!

he's a patsi!!!

this is part of the NWO's persecution of truth seekers!!

:)

[WildCat]

The story (http://www.denverpost.com/ci_14070088):

Actor Charlie Sheen was booked into the Pitkin County Jail on felony domestic violence charges today, authorities in Aspen said.

Aspen police were summoned by a 9-1-1 to a home at 320 West Hallam St. near downtown at about 11:20 a.m..

A unnamed "victim did not require transport to the hospital," according to a statement from police.

[WildCat]

Looks like parky started one at the same time, merge?

[Lisa Simpson]

I doubt trutherism = domestic abuser in this case. Charlie Sheen has had a long history of physical altercations with his wimmins.

[T.A.M.]

[Alex Jones]
"Charlie was too close to the truth, so then what did the fascist pigs do? They trumped up some ridiculous charges to silence him."
[/Alex Jones]

TAM:)

[Thunder]

no Lisa, I must disagree.

just as those who were aware of the JFK conspiracy, and those who were aware of the Titanic conspiracy, those who have knowledge of the 9-11 inside jobbbity job are being killed or arrested...one by one!!!!

he is a patsy!!! free Charlie Sheen!!! free Charlie Sheen!!!

im a little drunk. :)

[cyclonic]

Mr sheen needs to wax and polish up his love life.:D

elHnwjgrgS0

[Sam.I.Am]

Well at least now we know who the half man was...

[WildCat]

I doubt trutherism = domestic abuser in this case. Charlie Sheen has had a long history of physical altercations with his wimmins.
Now now... shooting Kelly Preston was an "accident".

But mental instability/illness is an excellent precursor to being a truther.

[Thunder]

But mental instability/illness is an excellent precursor to being a truther.

confident, mentally stable people, do not become truthers.

[Redtail]

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=153200.0;topicseen

:D

[Sledge]

I particularly enjoyed the idea that NWO mind control might be responsible. 'Cos there's just no way that Charlie Sheen would normally do something like this.

[Lisa Simpson]

I particularly enjoyed the idea that NWO mind control might be responsible. 'Cos there's just no way that Charlie Sheen would normally do something like this.

If he had only been wearing his tinfoil hat, he wouldn't have smacked his wife around.

[nicepants]

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=153200.0;topicseen

:D

Hopped over here when I saw the news, and looked over at PP...I'm not at all surprised that they're already claiming it was a set-up. I'm sure they'd be saying the same thing about Tiger Woods if he'd been a Twoofer hero.

My hat's off to the NWO operatives working overtime today to make this happen. You've all earned your Christmas Bonuses this year!

[AJM8125]

If he had only been wearing his tinfoil hat, he wouldn't have smacked his wife around.

I don't believe it helped. But he looks younger here, this may be an older booking photo.

http://forums.randi.org/imagehosting/thum_268324b357b7115c73.jpg (http://forums.randi.org/vbimghost.php?do=displayimg&imgid=18563)

[Lisa Simpson]

He looks scary in the current photo and no tinfoil hat, either:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/idiotdogbrain/1225_charlie_bn_2.jpg

[leftysergeant]

Drug rehab didn't take, maybe?

[Thunder]

i liked him in Platoon. I really did.

:(

[AJM8125]

i liked him in Platoon. I really did.

:(

I liked him too parky, before teh troof got him. His line regarding the Heidi Fleiss scandal ("I don't pay hookers for sex, I pay them to leave") was classic. Maybe when he gets on his meds he'll be OK.

[T.A.M.]

The responses over at the prisonplanet forum gave me no end of laughs. They are classic.

TAM:)

[Lisa Simpson]

i liked him in Platoon. I really did.

:(

I liked him in the Hot Shots! movies.

These men have taken a supreme vow of celibacy, like their fathers, and their fathers before them...

[A W Smith]

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=153200.0;topicseen

:D


Stundelicious

Whattt?!??! Charlies real name is CARLOS?

Does that make him Spanish or something?
And

That has always confused me. The family name is Estavez and brother's name is Emilio. They don't look or sound a bit spanish,latin or anything.:dl:

[Lisa Simpson]

What? Wikipedia is beyond their abilities?

Born and raised in Ohio, United States, with Irish and Spanish parents, (Martin) Sheen is also an Irish citizen.

[Lisa Simpson]

TMZ is saying his wife was drunk and now recanting her story:

Law enforcement sources tell TMZ ... Brooke Mueller was legally drunk when she called 911 on Charlie Sheen.

Sources say authorities gave both Charlie and Brooke blood alcohol tests. Brooke registered a .13 while Charlie registered a .04.

We're also told Brooke recanted her story to a female officer just before today's bail hearing. Nevertheless, law enforcement sources say police will still pursue the case -- at least for now.

[triforcharity]

He looks scary in the current photo and no tinfoil hat, either:

http://i200.photobucket.com/albums/aa25/idiotdogbrain/1225_charlie_bn_2.jpg

They took it away. Man, he is screwed now! Not only can he NOT wear his hat, but he can't run away either!!

[triforcharity]

What? Wikipedia is beyond their abilities?

Now Lisa, you know better than to expect any twoofer to do any kind of research!!

[Arus808]

Stundelicious

And

:dl:


And they also probably believe that when they says Spanish, they think of Mexico. Martin Sheen's father was from Spain. Guess none of them have ever been to Spain.

[AJM8125]

Guess none of them have ever been to Spain.

Or able to find it on a map.

[WildCat]

Guess none of them have ever been to Spain.
Not unless mama's basement is in Spain.

[ozeco41]

Mr sheen needs to wax and polish up his love life.:D

elHnwjgrgS0
Well said Aussie - plus the "translation" video for the rest of the world. :D:)

[Sledge]

Oh lol. (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=153200.msg908670#msg908670) :D
Harp must have been fired up all night long last night as I woke up in a state of panic a dozen times.Yeah, bloody string instruments making people act crazy. Somehow I suspect the poster wakes up in a state of panic very often.

[dropzone]

TMZ is saying his wife was drunk and now recanting her story:Brooke registered a .13 while Charlie registered a .04.
Is that the LOWEST Charlie's ever officially blown? That's more than sober enough to be a mall Santa.

[dtugg]

Oh lol. (http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=153200.msg908670#msg908670) :D
Yeah, bloody string instruments making people act crazy. Somehow I suspect the poster wakes up in a state of panic very often.

He was taking about HAARP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haarp). Some crazy people think that it is a mind control device/death ray/weather control machine/earthquake weapon, ect.

[Macgyver1968]

Hopefully he isn`t being targeted with some kind of mind control to make him look like a screwball.No doubt after his 9/11,Meeting With the President clip there are a few NWO criminals that would like to take him down.

Oh...the irony...the irony.


Definite Stundie worthy

[Mr.Herbert]

12/25 was an inside job!

Sweet Jesus

[cyclonic]

http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=153200.0;topicseen

:D

I like this comment about JREF:

"That http://forums.randi.org forum is a scary place. I've never seen it until today, but it makes me wonder if there was a "Reichstags Fire" Debunking crew that set out after Hitler had it set ablaze to make sure EVERY Patriotic German knew that it was the Communists that did it.


Stupid Reichstags Truthers"

BOO BOO! TRUTHERS WE ARE COMING TO GET YOU!!

[angrysoba]

"THIS REMINDS ME OF THE TIME ALEX JONES SAID SOMETHING ABOUT KEEPING YOUR GUARD UP INCASE YOU EVER START HEARING NEWS ABOUT ALEX JONES BEATING UP LITTLE GIRLS IN WHEEL CHAIRS."

I have heard some things here about some one attacking girls in wheelchairs. What's it about?

[WildCat]

"THIS REMINDS ME OF THE TIME ALEX JONES SAID SOMETHING ABOUT KEEPING YOUR GUARD UP INCASE YOU EVER START HEARING NEWS ABOUT ALEX JONES BEATING UP LITTLE GIRLS IN WHEEL CHAIRS."

I have heard some things here about some one attacking girls in wheelchairs. What's it about?
German Talis. (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/police_bush_basher_smashes_disabled_e4GDFfEFW8Xdv5 CeOGREoJ)

Thread here: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=112099

[angrysoba]

German Talis. (http://www.nypost.com/p/news/regional/police_bush_basher_smashes_disabled_e4GDFfEFW8Xdv5 CeOGREoJ)

Thread here: http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=112099

Thanks!

[cyclonic]

Truthers have their finest on the job!

fireflyblue : "in the scanner about 20 min after the first call - there is a mention from a cop about cleaning out trash from a dirty alleyway...behind a house...."

sociostudent : "Especially domestic violence...even if Brooke DID recant her story, the cops get federal money to pursue these cases to "the fullest extent of the law", even if they're bogus. They're trying to assassinate his character and thus, hurt the movement he engaged in when he did the "20 minutes with the president" video."

[Cl1mh4224rd]

Couldn't They™ just kill him and make it look like a drug overdose? I mean, if they were really that worried about that fake interview he did (notice how truthers are no longer outraged about initial deception and utter worthlessness of the fake interview; they need it now to explain what's going), I don't think an amazingly weak, apparently false allegation against him is going to do much. He assaulted a prostitute for Christ's sake. If he's still going strong after that, this isn't going to do anything...

Another example of how truthers utterly lack a sense of perspective.

Also, his death would just be another win-win scenario for truthers. He allegedly did something stupid, but is still alive, therefore it was an attempted character assassination. If he had died, by any means, it would "obviously" have been homicide.

Truthers: They're all winners in their world.

[JamesB]

Hey, how can you trust the judgement of someone who could wake up next to Denise Richards every morning and tell himself, "I could do better."

[Elizabeth I]

Whattt?!??! Charlies real name is CARLOS?

Does that make him Spanish or something?

That has always confused me. The family name is Estavez and brother's name is Emilio. They don't look or sound a bit spanish,latin or anything.

Yeah, because everybody who's Hispanic wears a sombrero and serape, leads a burro around and talks like Ricky Ricardo.

[AJM8125]

Yeah, because everybody who's Hispanic wears a sombrero and serape, leads a burro around and talks like Ricky Ricardo.

But if you look closely you see "¡Yo quiero inside job!" tattoed on the back of his neck.

[tsig]

But if you look closely you see "¡Yo quiero inside job!" tattoed on the back of his neck.

"I want an inside job"? Sounds more like an invitation than an accusation.

[AJM8125]

"I want an inside job"? Sounds more like an invitation than an accusation.

That's why Charlie picked it.

[9/11-investigator]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091225/ap_en_ot/us_charlie_sheen_arrested

its a set up!!!

he's a patsi!!!

this is part of the NWO's persecution of truth seekers!!

:)

Ah come one, every woman knows: "if he beats me, he still loves me."

http://www.telegraaf.nl/prive/5658632/__Loog_vrouw_Sheen_tegen_politie___.html

This Brooke woman probably lied about this to the police. They were both dead drunk.

Non event.

[Lisa Simpson]

Ah come one, every woman knows: "if he beats me, he still loves me."

http://www.telegraaf.nl/prive/5658632/__Loog_vrouw_Sheen_tegen_politie___.html

This Brooke woman probably lied about this to the police. They were both dead drunk.

Non event.

.04 (Charlie's BAC) is hardly dead drunk. More from TMZ:

Charlie Sheen's felony menacing charge is even more menacing than it sounds -- because according to Colorado law, the charge is only handed out if someone alleges that a weapon of some sort was involved in the incident.

According to the Aspen Police Department, the charge includes "anything that can be used as a weapon" ... whether it's a "knife, fork or rolling pin." The charge even includes instances, "when one claims to be armed with a deadly weapon."

We're told body parts -- like fists and feet -- do not count. No further details about the charge are being released at this time.

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Charlie & The Conspiracy Factory has a nice ring to it!

[9/11-investigator]

.04 (Charlie's BAC) is hardly dead drunk. More from TMZ:

Brooke had .13, at 8:45 that is when tested, probably hours after 'intake'.

Initialy Brooke had claimed that the famous truther had tried to strangle her.
The truther responded that he had acted out of self-defense.
Meantime, Brooke doesn't want to talk about it anymore to the police.
She has probably come to here senses after Charlie promissed that in future it will be him who will put the garbage can outside.

[Thunder]

Non event.

beating a woman, is a non-event?

[Algebra34]

beating a woman, is a non-event?

It's no more relevant than Bill Mahr being accused of rape and violence in the past, or Gene Simmons, who is a big supporter of the preemptive war on terror, who was also accused of violence yesterday.

Hey Parky and the rest of the debunkers here, did you all have a good Christmas day? I hope so.

[9/11-investigator]

beating a woman, is a non-event?

It's not world news. Or rather it should not be.

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

It's no more relevant than Bill Mahr being accused of rape and violence in the past, or Gene Simmons, who is a big supporter of the preemptive war on terror, who was also accused of violence yesterday.

Hey Parky and the rest of the debunkers here, did you all have a good Christmas day? I hope so.

This thread isn't about Bill Mahr or Gene Simmons!

I had a good time, although next week for New Years I'm going out to get drunk.

[Lisa Simpson]

Ah come one, every woman knows: "if he beats me, he still loves me."

http://www.telegraaf.nl/prive/5658632/__Loog_vrouw_Sheen_tegen_politie___.html

This Brooke woman probably lied about this to the police. They were both dead drunk.

Non event.


Brooke had .13, at 8:45 that is when tested, probably hours after 'intake'.

Initialy Brooke had claimed that the famous truther had tried to strangle her.
The truther responded that he had acted out of self-defense.
Meantime, Brooke doesn't want to talk about it anymore to the police.
She has probably come to here senses after Charlie promissed that in future it will be him who will put the garbage can outside.

You said, as shown above They were both dead drunk. Again, Charlie was not dead drunk. Hence your both is incorrect.

[T.A.M.]

It's no more relevant than Bill Mahr being accused of rape and violence in the past, or Gene Simmons, who is a big supporter of the preemptive war on terror, who was also accused of violence yesterday.

Hey Parky and the rest of the debunkers here, did you all have a good Christmas day? I hope so.

I believe Parky is Jewish (though I could be wrong).

You are correct, Charlies Sheen and his violent behavior are both irrelevant.

TAM:)

[Thunder]

Hey Parky and the rest of the debunkers here, did you all have a good Christmas day? I hope so.

i am not a Christian.

[9/11-investigator]

Hence your both is incorrect.

I'll have it repaired on monday. :p

[9/11-investigator]

I had a good time, although next week for New Years I'm going out to get drunk.

Never postpone anything until tomorrow when you can get it fixed today.

Cheers!

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Never postpone anything until tomorrow when you can get it fixed today.

Cheers!

The more I wait, the more I get thirsty! ;)

[Horatius]

i am not a Christian.



So, that's a "No", then?


;)

[Whiplash]

i am not a Christian.


Surely you realize that is not a pre-requisite for celebrating Christmas.

[Thunder]

Surely you realize that is not a pre-requisite for celebrating Christmas.

i see no reason to "celebrate" the birth of a kid born of a non-virgin...who was crucified for not being the Son of God.

I had my holiday, I enjoyed it. Its called Hannukah. It lasts 8 crazy nights. :)

(as opposed to my sister, who sees fit to celebrate Christmas, but didn't have a damn menorah in her window. i am a little pissed at her over this.)

[Lisa Simpson]

i see no reason to "celebrate" the birth of a kid born of a non-virgin...who was crucified for not being the Son of God.

I had my holiday, I enjoyed it. Its called Hannukah. It lasts 8 crazy nights. :)

(as opposed to my sister, who sees fit to celebrate Christmas, but didn't have a damn menorah in her window. i am a little pissed at her over this.)

Stephen Colbert: Does Hannukah commemorate events profound and holy? A king who came to save the world?

Jon Stewart: No, oil that burned quite slowly...

[Thunder]

Stephen Colbert: Does Hannukah commemorate events profound and holy? A king who came to save the world?

Jon Stewart: No, oil that burned quite slowly...

actual, my dear friend Lisa, Hannukah does revolve around an actual historical event, namely the Maccabean army kicking out the Assyrian Greeks from Judea. The oil story is just for da wee kiddies. :)

[Lisa Simpson]

actual, my dear friend Lisa, Hannukah does revolve around an actual historical event, namely the Maccabean army kicking out the Assyrian Greeks from Judea. The oil story is just for da wee kiddies. :)

Sigh. You've never seen A Colbert Christmas, then? Can I Interest You in Hannukah? was one of the best songs. That, and the song about bringing weed to baby Jeebus, sung by Willie Nelson.

[Thunder]

Sigh. You've never seen A Colbert Christmas, then? Can I Interest You in Hannukah? was one of the best songs. That, and the song about bringing weed to baby Jeebus, sung by Willie Nelson.

Stephen Colbert. Love his book. Never saw his Hannukah show. My cat refuses to chip in for standard cable. :(

[Whiplash]

i see no reason to "celebrate" the birth of a kid born of a non-virgin...who was crucified for not being the Son of God.

I had my holiday, I enjoyed it. Its called Hannukah. It lasts 8 crazy nights. :)

(as opposed to my sister, who sees fit to celebrate Christmas, but didn't have a damn menorah in her window. i am a little pissed at her over this.)


I completely understand where you are coming from. It's just that, when asked if you celebrate Christmas, you didn't say "No, I'm Jewish". You said "No, I'm not Christian". I didn't understand why you'd answer that way considering there is a large and longstanding secular celebration of Christmas as well. Santa, Frosty the Snowman.. people getting together to celebrate family and good times.. all that jazz. In fact, prevailing wisdom is that Christmas was originally a winter festival of sorts, that Christians co-opted. So I wasn't sure what you saying.

A (very sincere) Happy Hannukah to you and your family.

[Thunder]

I completely understand where you are coming from. It's just that, when asked if you celebrate Christmas, you didn't say "No, I'm Jewish". You said "No, I'm not Christian".

A (very sincere) Happy Hannukah to you and your family.

Oh, I was very aware of my answer. I was asked if I celebrate Christmas, and I felt the most logical answer would be "no..for I am not a Christian".

now, did i get drunk and eat a ton of seafood at my office Christmas party? sure I did. :)

thank you for the Hannukah wishes. happy Holidays to you too.

[AJM8125]

Stephen Colbert. Love his book. Never saw his Hannukah show. My cat refuses to chip in for standard cable. :(


Happy Hannukah parky :)

http://www.hulu.com/watch/110165/a-colbert-christmas

[Thunder]

Happy Hannukah parky :)

http://www.hulu.com/watch/110165/a-colbert-christmas

hmmm...he should stick to political comedy.

[Sledge]

He was taking about HAARP (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haarp). Some crazy people think that it is a mind control device/death ray/weather control machine/earthquake weapon, ect.

I know. But I can't resist a chance to mock someone for not even getting their own stupid conspiracy lunacy right.

[Björn Toulouse]

Another successful operation by our Hollywood Desk at NWO Headquarters. After precise engineering of Charlie Sheen's second divorce, we managed to plant our operative, Brooke Allen (Mueller-Sheen), into position to discredit and ultimately silence this voice of the Truth. After faithfully remaining undercover for over a year and a half and bearing twins to Sheen in furtherance of our noble plans for world domination, Agent Allen consumed an appropriate amount of alcohol and badgered Sheen into assaulting her, resulting in his being jailed for the holiday and causing considerable embarrassment to our enemy, the Truth Movement.

Meanwhile, back at the Reality Ranch, this thread is really about how Truthers twist any story they can like street corner clowns twist balloons into animal shapes.

[AJM8125]

hmmm...he should stick to political comedy.

7 whole minutes.

*AJM walks away shaking his head and grumbling....

[Orphia Nay]

Another successful operation by our Hollywood Desk at NWO Headquarters. After precise engineering of Charlie Sheen's second divorce, we managed to plant our operative, Brooke Allen (Mueller-Sheen), into position to discredit and ultimately silence this voice of the Truth. After faithfully remaining undercover for over a year and a half and bearing twins to Sheen in furtherance of our noble plans for world domination, Agent Allen consumed an appropriate amount of alcohol and badgered Sheen into assaulting her, resulting in his being jailed for the holiday and causing considerable embarrassment to our enemy, the Truth Movement.

:newlol

Meanwhile, back at the Reality Ranch, this thread is really about how Truthers twist any story they can like street corner clowns twist balloons into animal shapes.

Correct, except Truthers' animals look something like this:
http://www.cepolina.com/freephoto/f/other.objects.nature0/cow.crazy.animal.jpg

[SezMe]

What happened to the 4th boot?

[Orphia Nay]

What happened to the 4th boot?

That just adds to the weirdness. :)

[Whiplash]

What happened to the 4th boot?


It's on Das Boot.

[Redtail]

It's on Das Boot.

With Bootsie Collins.

[TheDaver]

Back on topic, if a bit stale…

sociostudent : "Especially domestic violence...even if Brooke DID recant her story, the cops get federal money to pursue these cases to "the fullest extent of the law", even if they're bogus. They're trying to assassinate his character and thus, hurt the movement he engaged in when he did the "20 minutes with the president" video."
I’d be surprised if the general public even knows Charlie Sheen’s engaged in 9/11 Truth.…

[Thunder]

I’d be surprised if the general public even knows Charlie Sheen’s engaged in 9/11 Truth.…

Joe Public says: "9/11 Truth? what's that?"

[Thunder]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091227/ap_en_tv/us_charlie_sheen_arrested

uh oh..looks like a weapon may be involved.

Chucky is going to da po po. :)

[Mr.Herbert]

uh oh..looks like a weapon may be involved.



Yup, it was the DVD "Men at Work."

[cyclonic]

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091227/ap_en_tv/us_charlie_sheen_arrested

uh oh..looks like a weapon may be involved.

Chucky is going to da po po. :)

Chucky shouldn't play with knives, he'll end up cutting himself.

:shocked::shocked:

[LibraryLady]

Can we make at least a token effort to stay on topic, please? Thanks so much.

[tyr_13]

Character assassination? On Charlie Sheen? What the hell for? That's like setting fire to a volcano; unnecessary and redundant.

[davefoc]

i am not a Christian.

What does this mean? Only Christians can have good Christimases?

I went on a politically correct campaign for awhile where I only wished somebody a Merry Christmas if I was sure they wouldn't be offended. But jeez who is offended by being wished a Merry Christmas and does it imply some advocacy of Christianity or a belief in the supernatural?

I am really asking about this. As somebody who grew up in the American culture but who has no memory of ever having any religious beliefs I had never really considered all the religious implications of wishing somebody a Merry Christmas. Is it anti-semitic? We have traded Christmas gifts with our secular Jewish friends, are they being disloyal to their heritage by partaking in the custom?

[davefoc]

The main reason I came to this thread was to get a feel for what the truth of the situation was or at least what my fellow skeptics thought about it.

Both stories seem fairly implausible to me. Charlie Sheen really held down his wife and threatened to cut her throat? Or his wife made up this story out of whole cloth?

Sheen, has been a jerk, an addict and a philanderer. Has he ever done anything remotely like this? On the other hand, if he didn't do it, how was it in all the world of women that he might have picked to be his wife he picks one that would make up a story like this. Drunk or not this doesn't sound like something that a sane woman would do. And if the woman was crazy enough to make up something like this it seems like there must have been signs of her craziness long before this.

OK, so now it sounds like she might be recanting her story. What does that mean if she was willing to lie about something like this she would certainly be willing to lie about it not happening. And somebody mentioned that Sheen had shot somebody. Was that a joke? I may not be as up on my Charlie Sheen facts as I should be to be a participant in this thread.

So, what happened here? Does anybody have a gut feel about what the truth of this situation is? From some of the posts, it sounds like Sheen holds some nutjob 9-11 theories. Is that a relevant fact as to whether or not he actually held his wife down and threatened to cut her throat? And if so what is the significance of it?

[Undesired Walrus]

i am not a Christian.

Neither is 95% of this forum, but you can still celebrate it.

[LibraryLady]

The main reason I came to this thread was to get a feel for what the truth of the situation was or at least what my fellow skeptics thought about it.

Both stories seem fairly implausible to me. Charlie Sheen really held down his wife and threatened to cut her throat? Or his wife made up this story out of whole cloth?

Sheen, has been a jerk, an addict and a philanderer. Has he ever done anything remotely like this? On the other hand, if he didn't do it, how was it in all the world of women that he might have picked to be his wife he picks one that would make up a story like this. Drunk or not this doesn't sound like something that a sane woman would do. And if the woman was crazy enough to make up something like this it seems like there must have been signs of her craziness long before this.

OK, so now it sounds like she might be recanting her story. What does that mean if she was willing to lie about something like this she would certainly be willing to lie about it not happening. And somebody mentioned that Sheen had shot somebody. Was that a joke? I may not be as up on my Charlie Sheen facts as I should be to be a participant in this thread.

So, what happened here? Does anybody have a gut feel about what the truth of this situation is? From some of the posts, it sounds like Sheen holds some nutjob 9-11 theories. Is that a relevant fact as to whether or not he actually held his wife down and threatened to cut her throat? And if so what is the significance of it?

Yes. (http://mygloss.com/buzz/2009/12/28/denise-richards-mum-on-charlie-sheen-arrest-sheen-history-of-violence/)

[Thunder]

Neither is 95% of this forum, but you can still celebrate it.

i don't feel the need to celebrate a Holiday, just cause everyone else is. I would not celebrate Ramadan or Id if I lived in Jordan.

[davefoc]

Yes. (http://mygloss.com/buzz/2009/12/28/denise-richards-mum-on-charlie-sheen-arrest-sheen-history-of-violence/)

A link from LibraryLady's link to an itemization of Sheen's various lapses:
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/marc_malkin/b159724_charlie_sheens_women_troubles_are.html

I take it LibraryLady thinks he actually did threaten his wife with a knife.

At this point it certainly seems plausible. Although, it's a big leap from his past lapses to this. My own, largely uninformed guess, is that Sheen did threaten his wife with a knife. My guess, is that the guy is significantly disturbed and some kind of intoxicant, possibly alcohol is enough to push him into nut job land.

ETA: I wasn't able to find a primary source on the shooting incident with Kelly Preston, but the story is repeated in hundred's of places on the web. It's not clear what happened. Apparently Sheen claims the gun went off when he heft it loaded in a pocket and Preston picked them up. Apparently Preston told a different story, but I couldn't find the details of what she said. At any rate, immediately after that they called off their engagement.

[DGM]

A link from LibraryLady's link to an itemization of Sheen's various lapses:
http://www.eonline.com/uberblog/marc_malkin/b159724_charlie_sheens_women_troubles_are.html

I take it LibraryLady thinks he actually did threaten his wife with a knife.

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Did I miss something? Where is the report of a "knife"? :confused:

[LibraryLady]

I have an open mind on the subject, I just wanted to point out that Sheen in no stranger to violent threats.

I think it's pretty likely he did something violent, but as I recall, they need to prove something in a court of law.

[davefoc]

Did I miss something? Where is the report of a "knife"? :confused:

That was just a summary of some of the past Charlie Sheen fun. The knife deal is new and his wife is now apparently recanting the story. However, there is a possible mercenary explanation for her recantment. She is a stakeholder in Sheen's career and it doesn't seem like holding women down and threatening to slash their throats will be good for it.

I have an open mind on the subject, I just wanted to point out that Sheen in no stranger to violent threats.

I think it's pretty likely he did something violent, but as I recall, they need to prove something in a court of law.

Well, there's truth and there's what's provable beyond a reasonable doubt in court. Both are interesting to me. We rarely can know what the truth is but we can sometimes make a good guess based on available information. Beyond a reasonable doubt in he said/she said cases is very difficult to obtain and the wife's apparent equivocation will probably make that impossible. There might be enough evidence for some kind of civil judgment (more likely than not criteria) but I think money and/or the children will prevent this from ever going to civil court. So I think we'll be left with rumor and internet musing as the basis of figuring out what the truth is.

However this shakes out, his finances are going to take a big hit, so instead of being the richest television actor going, he'll just be one of the richest.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I think it's pretty likely he did something violent, but as I recall, they need to prove something in a court of law.

You mean like the "official" story of 9/11 was proven in a court of law beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt to the satisfaction of a jury that they felt comfortable with putting a man into a concrete box for 23 hours a day for the rest of his unnaturally prolonged life?

If the evidence for Sheens spousal abuse is as strong as that for the "official" version of 9/11, then he is screwed (and I don't mean the kind of "screwed" that Sheen pays 20,000 dollars a night for)











(Or maybe I do? "Charlie Charlene, this is your new cellmate boyfriend, Bubba...")

[Sword_Of_Truth]

i see no reason to "celebrate" the birth of a kid born of a non-virgin...who was crucified for not being the Son of God.

I had my holiday, I enjoyed it. Its called Hannukah. It lasts 8 crazy nights. :)

(as opposed to my sister, who sees fit to celebrate Christmas, but didn't have a damn menorah in her window. i am a little pissed at her over this.)

Did you have a good day last friday?

[davefoc]

You mean like the "official" story of 9/11 was proven in a court of law beyond the shadow of a reasonable doubt to the satisfaction of a jury that they felt comfortable with putting a man into a concrete box for 23 hours a day for the rest of his unnaturally prolonged life?

If the evidence for Sheens spousal abuse is as strong as that for the "official" version of 9/11, then he is screwed (and I don't mean the kind of "screwed" that Sheen pays 20,000 dollars a night for)











(Or maybe I do? "Charlie Charlene, this is your new cellmate boyfriend, Bubba...")

I didn't quite understand the point of all that, but is SOT some flavor of truther? Or is his point that the people the government says were involved in 9-11 are actually innocent or might be innocent. Sorry, sometimes for the less sophisticated amongst us, interpreting what was actually meant by the sarcasm is not always easy.

[Sword_Of_Truth]

I didn't quite understand the point of all that, but is SOT some flavor of truther? Or is his point that the people the government says were involved in 9-11 are actually innocent or might be innocent. Sorry, sometimes for the less sophisticated amongst us, interpreting what was actually meant by the sarcasm is not always easy.

My point is that the "official" story of 9/11 (note the use of scare quotes) has been proven to the courtroom standards that Library Lady mentioned.

The 23 hours a day in a concrete box is a reference to ADX Florence (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence) "Supermax" prison where convicted 9/11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui is currently incarcerated.

[davefoc]

Are Sheen's actions indicators that he might be bipolar?

[Mr.Herbert]

Did I miss something? Where is the report of a "knife"? :confused:


911 Tape was released.

911 Operator: OK and you have a domestic disturbance? OK, tell me exactly what happened.
Brooke: My husband had me (inaudible) with a knife and I'm scared for my life and he threatened me.

http://www.cbsnews.com/blogs/2009/05/20/crimesider/entry5027489.shtml


Recording here:

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[dudalb]

And Sheen is the Truth Movement's outstanding celeb spokesperson. Talk about Fail.

[mythstifieD]

I must say that I'm highly disappointed by this thread. I'm no Sheen fanboy, but you guys claim to be skeptics. You're condemning this guy simply because of a vague media report. It seems like everyone here has already condemned him as guilty. I know you all hate the guy, but that doesn't automatically mean he's a wife-beater.

[davefoc]

I must say that I'm highly disappointed by this thread. I'm no Sheen fanboy, but you guys claim to be skeptics. You're condemning this guy simply because of a vague media report. It seems like everyone here has already condemned him as guilty. I know you all hate the guy, but that doesn't automatically mean he's a wife-beater.

It's hard to believe you and I read the same thread. I have been interested in what actually happened. It seems like both the idea that Sheen actually held a knife to his wife's throat and that his wife would claim he that Sheen had threatened her with a knife when if fact he hadn't were both unlikely possibilities and yet it seems that one or the other possibility is true.

When I asked people what they thought had happened, I didn't notice anybody stepping forth and saying they knew what happened or even that either possibility was all that much more likely than the other.

People did step forth and provide links to evidence of past Sheen bad acts as a means of providing information that might be useful as far as making a guess about what happened here. Does that mean that the people who provided links to evidence of Sheen's past bad acts were claiming that this proved something about the current situation? I didn't notice that. They were providing some information that might be used to formulate a guess about what happened, but guessing that Sheen did hold a knife to his wife's throat is very different than claiming or assuming that Sheen held a knife to his wife's throat. I haven't seen that anybody in this thread has done that.

And I haven't noticed a scintilla of evidence in this thread that anybody hates Sheen. Being curious about the range of human behavior and making guesses about what Sheen did, seems completely unrelated to liking or hating Sheen.

[Sam.I.Am]

I could hate Charlie Sheen. He raped my father and killed my mother. Then he sold my sister into white slavery in Somalia. Then he came back and burned our home to the ground causing my little brother and I to go into foster care where I was placed with a closet transvestite crack whore named Benicia and I had to eat cardboard boxes to quiet my stomach while she smoked away the DHCF checks and kept me chained to a radiator. I later learned the fate of my little brother, he ended up as a pass around toy for the Des Moines chapter of NAMBLA. What a horrible fate... Des Moines...

He also kicked my cat on the way out the front door. Twice.

Good thing I don't hold a grudge.

[cyclonic]

If chucky goes to jail, two and a half men will be renamed two men.

chucky said "if you tell anybody , I'll kill you!"

she did, he will.

But when?

6-4-10.

[Brainache]

I could hate Charlie Sheen. He raped my father and killed my mother. Then he sold my sister into white slavery in Somalia. Then he came back and burned our home to the ground causing my little brother and I to go into foster care where I was placed with a closet transvestite crack whore named Benicia and I had to eat cardboard boxes to quiet my stomach while she smoked away the DHCF checks and kept me chained to a radiator. I later learned the fate of my little brother, he ended up as a pass around toy for the Des Moines chapter of NAMBLA. What a horrible fate... Des Moines...

He also kicked my cat on the way out the front door. Twice.

Good thing I don't hold a grudge.

Sounds like you've had almost as hard a life as Unsecured Coins...

[Sam.I.Am]

Sounds like you've had almost as hard a life as Unsecured Coins...

Did I forget to mention that he killed me... twice? Bludgeoned to death once by a tire iron and the other with a whiffle bat. To be fair the first softened me up for the second...

I got better... Kinda. :rolleyes: