Now HERE's Something You Don't See Every Day...

[Mr Manifesto]

Taliban apologises for Kandahar blast 'mistake' (http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1021947.htm)

Afghanistan's ousted Taliban is apologising for a bomb attack in the southern city of Kandahar that killed 16 people, including many children, calling it a botched attempt to target US troops.

When this story first broke, either yesterday or the day before, a Taliban official was saying that it wasn't them because they don't target children. Now they're saying 'oops'.

Well... At least they said 'sorry'. None of this, "There will be an investigation, blah, blah, blah" crap.

[Grammatron]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto
Taliban apologises for Kandahar blast 'mistake' (http://www.abc.net.au/news/newsitems/s1021947.htm)

When this story first broke, either yesterday or the day before, a Taliban official was saying that it wasn't them because they don't target children. Now they're saying 'oops'.

Well... At least they said 'sorry'. None of this, "There will be an investigation, blah, blah, blah" crap.

Does this mean that you only need an apology everytime something goes wrong, screw the investigation to make sure it doesn't happen again?

Of I don't see what kind of investigation Taliban would run -- stone the guy who was the problem thus fixing it?

[c0rbin]

You dork. An investigation is made to detirmine if negligence was the cause of the oops.

Would you rather there was no investigation?

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by c0rbin
You dork. An investigation is made to detirmine if negligence was the cause of the oops.

Would you rather there was no investigation?

"Dork"? Man, that's cold...

I'd rather see an apology after the investigation- which never seems to happen. The investigation seems to be more of a tool for sweeping the issue under the carpet rather than trying to get to the bottom of something.

[Grammatron]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto


"Dork"? Man, that's cold...

I'd rather see an apology after the investigation- which never seems to happen. The investigation seems to be more of a tool for sweeping the issue under the carpet rather than trying to get to the bottom of something.

Example?

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by Grammatron


Example?

Here's one (http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/7636914.htm)- Note the lack of apology to the prisoner(s) who were beaten.

Here's another (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040105/ts_nm/iraq_tikrit_killing_dc_1)

Now it's your turn. Find an example of a US investigation that resulted in an apology.

[aerocontrols]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto


Here's one (http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/7636914.htm)- Note the lack of apology to the prisoner(s) who were beaten.

Here's another (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040105/ts_nm/iraq_tikrit_killing_dc_1)

Now it's your turn. Find an example of a US investigation that resulted in an apology.


Your first article doesn't say that there was no apology. Do you have some sort of evidence that no apology was forthcoming?

Your second article contains claims that the US denies.

Here (http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2003/Fallujah-8-Iraqi-Policemen13sep03.htm) is an example of an incident that was investigated, with an apology after the fact.

Another (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2003/12/08/wafg08.xml)

MattJ

[WildCat]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto


Here's one (http://www.centredaily.com/mld/centredaily/news/7636914.htm)- Note the lack of apology to the prisoner(s) who were beaten.

Here's another (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040105/ts_nm/iraq_tikrit_killing_dc_1)

Now it's your turn. Find an example of a US investigation that resulted in an apology.
From your own link: (http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/nm/20040105/ts_nm/iraq_tikrit_killing_dc_1)
Russell said he had spoken to the local tribal elders and police heads to express sadness over the incident and tell them his troops patrolling in the area were flagged down after the shooting and provided assistance.


"We went out and talked to several people on the streets," Russell said. "I stood before several of the popular restaurants and said we came to provide assistance and that it was a sad thing that happened.


"Whether or not they accepted that, I don't know."


Regarding the first link, do you think whether or not an apology was issued would appear in a story about the court marshal? Do you think that the media reports every last detail about everything? They did punish the soldiers involved.

Was there ever any Iraqi court marshals regarding the abuses of American POW's in Desert Storm? I know, this doesn't bother you, only the US has a duty to apologise in the Manifesto world...

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by WildCat

Russell said he had spoken to the local tribal elders and police heads to express sadness over the incident and tell them his troops patrolling in the area were flagged down after the shooting and provided assistance.

Missed that, my bad.


Regarding the first link, do you think whether or not an apology was issued would appear in a story about the court marshal? Do you think that the media reports every last detail about everything? They did punish the soldiers involved.

If the apology was significant, the media would have published it. That is to say, if the US military was sincerely sorry about the grief they caused, they would see to it that the media reported that they were sorry.


Was there ever any Iraqi court marshals regarding the abuses of American POW's in Desert Storm? I know, this doesn't bother you, only the US has a duty to apologise in the Manifesto world...

Cheap strawman. You can do better than this.

[aerocontrols]

Originally posted by Mr Manifesto
Now it's your turn. Find an example of a US investigation that resulted in an apology.

Challenge posed, answered, and seemingly ignored.


Why am I not surprised?

[Skeptic]

If the apology was significant, the media would have published it.

Vintage "Mr. Manifesto" reasoning: if "the media" didn't publish an apology (e.g., if "Mr. Manifesto" couldn't find the apology by spending five minutes on www.google.com), it "wasn't significant".

In other words, if somebody finds that there WAS an apology that "Mr. Manifesto"'s extensive five-minute googling had missed, That DOESN'T mean "Mr. Manifesto" was wrong for claiming no such apology existed. On the contrary: the mere fact that "Mr. Manifesto" failed to find it merely PROVES that the apology "wasn't significant" in the first place!

[c0rbin]

"Dork"? Man, that's cold...

I can tell you are warming up to it, though.

[Mr Manifesto]

Originally posted by Skeptic
If the apology was significant, the media would have published it.

Vintage "Mr. Manifesto" reasoning: if "the media" didn't publish an apology (e.g., if "Mr. Manifesto" couldn't find the apology by spending five minutes on www.google.com), it "wasn't significant".

In other words, if somebody finds that there WAS an apology that "Mr. Manifesto"'s extensive five-minute googling had missed, That DOESN'T mean "Mr. Manifesto" was wrong for claiming no such apology existed. On the contrary: the mere fact that "Mr. Manifesto" failed to find it merely PROVES that the apology "wasn't significant" in the first place!

I notice that, for all your blather, you didn't find the apology.