Yet another psychic sleuth!

[Stumpy]

I have not the words!

http://www.stockportexpress.co.uk/news/index/articles/article_id=6409.html

The final paragraph tells you all you really need to know:

PC Chris Horrocks said on the programme: “It’s very rare in these cases that there is no trail. It isn’t police policy to use mediums, but we’ll follow any line of enquiry. What she’s said has corroborated some things we’ve already investigated. We will keep in contact with her.”

So the "medium" can only supply information that is already known? Marvellous!! My girfriend has exactly the same gift of stating the blindlyingly obvious and pointing out things to me that I have previously pointed out to her - please can she have the million dollars?

[Goshawk]

Errrr....

Vinny goes to considerable trouble to look up a medium, he interrupts her Tarot session with these two other women, he tells her, "I was murdered" and "I made three phone calls" and "I don't want Vickie to keep thinking I'm still alive somewhere" and "Go visit Didsbury and Cheadle"--but he can't manage to tell her who murdered him, or where his body is?

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I see.

Maybe Vinny's holding out for a Hollywood deal, and this was just the pitch meeting...

[TruthSeeker]

Originally posted by Goshawk
Errrr....

Vinny goes to considerable trouble to look up a medium, he interrupts her Tarot session with these two other women, he tells her, "I was murdered" and "I made three phone calls" and "I don't want Vickie to keep thinking I'm still alive somewhere" and "Go visit Didsbury and Cheadle"--but he can't manage to tell her who murdered him, or where his body is?

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I see.

Maybe Vinny's holding out for a Hollywood deal, and this was just the pitch meeting...

further proof that dead people become stupid and incapable of sending useful messages.

How does Sylvia explain this?

[The Don]

I'd love to know which "other inquiries" the medium is helping the police with. If fact I'd like a full public enquiry regarding police use of mediums.

Unless *gosh* the help to the police is unsolicited

[Clancie]

I'm not defending the medium going on tv about this, which I think is reprehensible. Nor would I say she is necessarily legit. But, Stumpy, I disagree with your characterization here:
Posted by STumpy

(from the article) What she’s said has corroborated some things we’ve already investigated. We will keep in contact with her.”

Stumpy: So the "medium" can only supply information that is already known? Marvellous!!
Actually, the police don't say she only came up with things they already knew.

They say she mentioned some things they already knew (which apparently weren't public, as it got their interest). It doesn't seem at all clear from this article that that was all she had told them, though. (i.e. Your girlfriend should keep her day job....:p)

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Fact: M = R!

What does this mean stranger!?

What does this mean stranger!?

This is a proven scientific rule that means: Materialism = Reality!

This is a proven scientific rule that means: Materialism = Reality!

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Wow! Is it really proven!?

Yes! I'm a skeptic and skeptics are superior so I don't have to back myself up because I have to be right!

Yes! I'm a skeptic and skeptics are superior so I don't have to back myself up because I have to be right!

I wouldn't dare question that!

[Abdul Alhazred]

Originally posted by The Don
I'd love to know which "other inquiries" the medium is helping the police with. If fact I'd like a full public enquiry regarding police use of mediums.

Unless *gosh* the help to the police is unsolicited

Or the police suspect that the medium knows something about the case in the normal sense.

[iain]

I live in the village between Cheadle and Heald Green and I'm getting concerned about my local police force wasting taxpayers money on this stuff.

I think maybe letters to the local police authority and my MP is in order. If anyone has any suggestions, I'll certainly bear them in mind when writing the letters.

[Hannibal]

I can actually help out here. I serve with GMP so I can try and track down the detective concerned. The most interesting point to me was,

It isn’t police policy to use mediums, but we’ll follow any line of enquiry.

because I have been trying to tell the more "fringe" elements on the board this for quite some time.

Iain, don't bother with the letter because we are not wasting your money. Police receive info and are duty bound to investigate. She won't get paid for it so you have no complaint.;)

I'll do some digging and post what I can.

edited for crap typing

[The Don]

Originally posted by Clancie
I'm not defending the medium going on tv about this, which I think is reprehensible. Nor would I say she is necessarily legit. But, Stumpy, I disagree with your characterization here:

Actually, the police don't say she only came up with things they already knew.

They say she mentioned some things they already knew (which apparently weren't public, as it got their interest). It doesn't seem at all clear from this article that that was all she had told them, though. (i.e. Your girlfriend should keep her day job....:p)

Depends how you read it, I read it as

She has corroborated some things we have investigated. That is, she hasn't been able to corroborate all of the things we have investigated. It doesn't say whether she said anything they have subsequently been able to corroborate. I would tend to think not.

[iain]

Originally posted by Hannibal
Iain, don't bother with the letter because we are not wasting your money. Police receive info and are duty bound to investigate. She won't get paid for it so you have no complaint.;)
Surely if I walked into a police station and said something like
I have no direct knowledge of this case, but there are pixies living at the bottom of my garden and they have told me the solution. the police wouldn't be duty bound to investigate.

Why would they be any more bound to investigate someone claiming to be a psychic, unless of course they had some reasonably convincing evidence of their psychic powers?

I appreciate the psychic isn't being paid; my concern is that a detective could be spending his time following up real leads or investigating other crimes. My taxes pay his wages (well, sort of).

[Hannibal]

Police pay tax and pay our own bloody wages thank you very much! And we don't get a discount for the fact we are paying ourselves to protect ourselves as well as every other tom dick & harry, so don't come that one sunshine!:mad:

OK, rant over...you just touched a pet bugbear of mine!;)

No, we would not necessarily investigate the pixies, but if the information you said came from the pixies corroborated or matched something we already had then that within itself would be a lead - Did you do it? Did you see someone else do it? (etc..).

Often people prefer anonymity when giving information. Again we don't just go off willy-nilly, it is cross referenced before acting. Any info received is graded according to source value and quality of the info. The detective will follow up all leads eventually, but they will be prioritised or delegated. Psychic info generally would come very low down the scale. Remember that in this case he said that it matched up with stuff they already have so it is worthy of investigation

[Lothian]

Originally posted by Hannibal
Police pay tax and pay our own bloody wages thank you very much! And we don't get a discount for the fact we are paying ourselves to protect ourselves as well as every other tom dick & harry, so don't come that one sunshine!:mad:
Hannibal,

You could expand your rant and point out that not only do you pay tax but you pay more tax that the average person because of the ludicrously high pay that the police currently receive for by and large failing to solve crimes. :D (no doubt the latter partly aided by following leads from Psychics ;) )

[Hannibal]

You had BETTER be joking.....

Do you want a serious reply or a silly one?;)

[Lothian]

Originally posted by Hannibal
You had BETTER be joking.....

Partly, as a low paid public worker I sometimes dream of retiring on a police recruits salary.

[Hannibal]

Ok then, I'll forgive you!:D

Anyone with low pay has my sympathies, but the pay I get is not really commesurate with what I put up with. But then, I don't do it for the money - no honest....stop laughing....

What happened to the duck on your head by the way?

I am back on duty tomorrow so I will send a message to the OIC for this psychic job.;)

Personally I have a good sucess rate in solving crimes (around 85% or so). Bear in mind that some cannot be solved and the government has introduced a piece of nonsense called "ethical crime recording". This means that if I say I was jumped by three men dressed as rabbits carrying guitars and whistling "she'll be coming round the mountain" who proceeded to steal 10p from me...it happened!

Then they wonder why I get p*&%ed off!

[Ed]

Sorry, post to wrong topic.

Move along. Nothing to see here.

[Hannibal]

LOL:D

[Lothian]

Originally posted by Hannibal
Ok then, I'll forgive you!:D

Anyone with low pay has my sympathies, but the pay I get is not really commesurate with what I put up with. But then, I don't do it for the money - no honest....stop laughing....

What happened to the duck on your head by the way?

Not many public workers do.

I changed avatar for Christmas and then when it was time to change back I forgot where I put the duck.

I have assigned 3 of the countries top remote viewers to locate the duck and all they have come back with is, "We see it near water......"

[iain]

Originally posted by Hannibal
Police pay tax and pay our own bloody wages thank you very much! And we don't get a discount for the fact we are paying ourselves to protect ourselves as well as every other tom dick & harry, so don't come that one sunshine!:mad:

OK, rant over...you just touched a pet bugbear of mine!;) Rant - and advice - accepted.

[SteveGrenard]

Hannibal: This means that if I say I was jumped by three men dressed as rabbits carrying guitars and whistling "she'll be coming round the mountain" ......


Isn't there a TV program in the UK where this sort of thing occurs?