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15th January 2004, 10:36 AM
Here's one that might be interesting if they went for the challenge:
Russian X-Ray Vision Girl (http://english.pravda.ru/science/19/94/377/11797_phenomenon.html)
(the link can be slow)
Moscow's medical workers discovered a magnificent gift of a sixteen-year-old girl Natalya Demkina from Saransk. The girl possesses "dual vision". She is capable of discerning a person's internal organs without using X-ray or ultrasound.
Natasha has already disproved several medical diagnoses and has not made any mistakes. A series of medical experiments conducted in one of the clinics provide substantial and undeniable proofs of the girls' unique abilities.
"Growing up, my daughter was just an ordinary child," states Natasha's mother Tatyana Vladimirovna. "Perhaps, she just a bit more mature than other kids her age. Natasha started to talk when she was only 6 months old. At 1, she could already recite Pushkin and Nekrasov by heart. By 3, Natasha mastered the alphabet and learned to operate a snowmobile," continues her mother. "Since early childhood, Natasha has been resistant to cold temperatures. She practically walked around naked till winter. She once walked barefoot in the snow after sauna [Rus. banya] Overall, she was just a normal kid. Never was she able to see through humans!"
The Demkins family remains puzzled as to the origin of their daughter"s gift. Perhaps, Natasha"s latest surgery has triggered such "vision improvement". Natasha"s appendix has been removed. However, by the time she was scheduled to be sent home from the hospital, she could hardly move. Ultrasound revealed that doctors forgot to remove sanitary cotton tampons from the girl"s intestines. Natasha was once again hospitalized and operated for the second time. In a month after that incident, the teenager was able to surprise her mother with her unique quality. "I see a crimped tube similar to our vacuum cleaner inside of you. I also see two beans and a tomato that resembles a bulls' heart," states the girl. Back then, she was not aware of medical terminology and could not provide a proper name for a heart, a liver, a kidney, or intestines. She simply compared what she saw to fruits and vegetables.
Anyone feeling motivated enough to contact her...? :D
19th January 2004, 11:43 AM
These's a UK article at http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2004030583,00.html
She certainly sounds like a potential candidate (although I'd hate anyone to think I believe what's printed in The Sun newspaper!)
19th January 2004, 09:14 PM
Spotted this article at another site and came straight here, only to see that I was beaten to it. I noticed this at the end of the story.
"I would like to get into Moscow"s medical academy of Sechenov. However, I do not think that I will be able to pay for my studies- 70,000 rubles annually. Not even my gift can help me in these matters," says Natasha.
But she's wrong, her gift could get her a million dollars. Plenty for her schooling. Someone just needs to let her know about it.
19th January 2004, 09:22 PM
I'd love to see the results of this test. But I've been told elsewhere that the paper that this storry was first published in is Russia's version of the Weekly World News . So, I wouldn't count on this being a true claim.
19th January 2004, 10:08 PM
There is no point in getting people like this tested besides for publicity when they fail none of it is real!
This logic that I have used before shows that these abilities canít exist!
1. Anything that isnít proven doesnít exist!
2. Paranormal abilities are not proven so logically we must conclude that they are impossible! We could even say that they have been proven untrue!
3. Even if theses abilities happen to exist they donít because theyíre impossible in the first place and could never be proven!
20th January 2004, 10:45 PM
Then I guess there's no point in the JREF continuing to exist. Claims like these do need to be tested(if the story is true, and not from a Russian tabloid). Because if this girl isn't shot down, and is allowed to make these claims, what's to stop the next person? There wouldn't be a deterrent, and who knows how many more "mutants" would pop up?
21st January 2004, 05:49 AM
Personally, I don't feel the JREF is a deterrent at all. Frauds know that the majority of people don't know or care about our point of view. The public love to read about these cases and there will always be a market for them.
But occasionally, when a journalist or programme-maker decides to offer a balanced view of these sorts of topic, the JREF and Randi are there to give an authoritative response. And I feel that makes it worthwhile. In fact, there appears to be a bit of a supernatural-backlash in the UK media at the moment (at least on TV. I don't read tabloids). I am sure I have seen the skeptic's view given far more often of late.
24th January 2004, 02:41 AM
Well, we all know how the media can "make mistakes", being overzealous in their claims, be incompetent in the presentation of scientific research, etc. I only wish that the challenge was made more public in the media. But, she is definitely a candidate for the JREF challenge.
24th January 2004, 08:27 AM
from the Pravda article
I also see two beans and a tomato that resembles a bulls' heart," states the girl. Back then, she was not aware of medical terminology and could not provide a proper name for a heart, a liver, a kidney, or intestines. She simply compared what she saw to fruits and vegetables.
The girl could not provide a proper name for a heart, but she describes what she sees as resembling a bulls' heart?
At 1, she could already recite Pushkin and Nekrasov by heart. By 3, Natasha mastered the alphabet...
The girl recites renowned poetry at age 1, and masters the alphabet by age 3, but at age 15, doesn't know the word to describe a human heart?
24th January 2004, 12:32 PM
X-Ray girl will be appearing on This Morning on ITV1 in the UK. If previous shows have been anything to go by, they go woo-woo at around 11am.
Recent pundits have included Michael "Bible Code" Drosnin and David "when I said I was Jesus I was mad, but you can trust me on the baby-eating reptile overlords thing" Icke.
Hand Bent Spoon
25th January 2004, 08:15 PM
Is she hot?:D
26th January 2004, 03:37 AM
I captured the interview/test on my computer but when I came to play it back my stupid computer had decided to record the audio from the non-existant mic! Argh!
Did anyone else see it? I'd give a rundown but my boss was talking to me while I was trying to watch it, grrr, so I probably missed a lot of salient points. What I saw appeared, on the face of it, very impressive.
27th January 2004, 03:47 PM
As The Sun seem to be championing her cause, i just e mailed them the details of the $1million challenge and suggested they have her apply for it.
28th January 2004, 04:29 AM
from Uri Geller's site:
Russian teenager Natasha Demkina has just taken a course in medical terminology, learning the names of the bones, muscles and organs in a human body. Already patients are queueing to consult 'Dr' Natasha. Natasha charges nothing for her diagnosis, and turns no one away. At nightfall the queues disperse. As the daylight fades, so do Natasha's medical powers. She becomes an ordinary girl again, until the sunrise restores her miraculous gift - the power to see through flesh.
The remarkable tale of Natasha's X-ray vision was soberly reported in Pravda, the Moscow newspaper, last week. Natasha says: "It's like double vision. I can switch from one to the other in no time. I see an entire human organism. There are certain impulses I feel from damaged organs." Unlike other psychic healers, Natasha can pinpoint illness but can't help with the cure.
Now she wants to study for medical qualifications so she can work in mainstream hospitals. It costs about £1,350 a year to train as a doctor in Russia - far more than Natasha's family could dream of. I hope one of the West's stupendously rich drug companies will spot Natasha's potential and sponsor her education. For a tiny investment, medicine could gain a vast talent.
28th January 2004, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by digital goldfish
from Uri Geller's site:
Natasha charges nothing for her diagnosis, and turns no one away.
Now she wants to study for medical qualifications so she can work in mainstream hospitals. It costs about £1,350 a year to train as a doctor in Russia - far more than Natasha's family could dream of. I hope one of the West's stupendously rich drug companies will spot Natasha's potential and sponsor her education. For a tiny investment, medicine could gain a vast talent. Or, she could, you know, start charging for her services.
At £10 a person (that's, what, $16?), it would only take her 135 patients a year to earn that kind of money. That's less than 2 a day during the summer months when she'd probably not be at school. (I'm unfamiliar with Russian university timetables; please forgive me.) If they're queueing up to see her, this should be a no-brainer.
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