Pine Bush: Bigger than Roswell, Rendlesham and Kecksberg

[SteveGrenard]

http://www.abcfield.force9.co.uk/bcornet/bcornet1.html


Here's a photo of Dr. Cornet with his special camera. Is it my imagination or do his fingers look longer than those of most or is this the camera angle?

http://www.abcfield.force9.co.uk/bcornet/Figure-5.jpg

[Pyrrho]

Hmm. The photo quality is too poor. Also, they take liberties with facts; this photo purports to show "right-angle turns", but no right-angle turns are evident. The distortions of the time exposure of the lights is explainable by ground vibration, despite the measures taken to minimize such.

http://www.abcfield.force9.co.uk/bcornet/Figure-6.jpg

This looks exactly like common aircraft running lights would look in a time exposure. Also, the photograph is completely "clean" -- the pure black background would not appear in a true time exposure. Either the photograph is an illustration and not a true photograph, or it has been doctored to improve colors and contrast.

[Grommitt]

[i]Originally posted by Pyrrho
http://www.abcfield.force9.co.uk/bcornet/Figure-6.jpg

This looks exactly like common aircraft running lights would look in a time exposure. Yep. Whoever or whatever is operating this "UFO" is complying with FAA regulations regarding navigation and anti-colission lights for aircraft operating in US airspace.

Port wing - Red steady
Starboard wing - Green steady
Tail - white steady
Vertical stabilizer or belly - Red rotating beacon
Nose or wing leading edge - White landing light

Add to this optional but common white flashing strobe lights on each wing plus dual landing light configuration (also common) and we have a perfect match.

An aircraft making an approach to nearby Stewart Airport in Newburgh would have a landing light(s) lit at the position this photo was claimed to have been taken.

They consider this to be "unidentified"?

Their interpretation of "right angle" seems to be a few degrees shy of 90 as well. They look like camera jiggles to me.

If this is a typical example of their analysis of UFO photos, it sure doesn't do much for their credibility as investigators.

By the way, I am a commercial pilot, flight instructor, amatuer astronomer and I live in Ulster County just North of Pine Bush. I've logged hundreds of hours of night flight and many hours observing with a 10" SCT telescope. I've never seen hide nor hair of any unusual lights in the sky.
edited to correct dumb mistake

[SteveGrenard]

Yeah, I live in the glide path for Newark and often wondered why so many UFOs headed for there everynight.

He admits to using time lapse but has an extensive discussion regarding jiggling somewhere on the site. He claims to have used a tripod. I am wondering if the blades of this external shutter didn't produce the effect.


Actually Pyrrho I was referring to this photo of Cornet behind his camera and the length of Cornet's fingers:

[Pyrrho]

Originally posted by SteveGrenard
Yeah, I live in the glide path for Newark and often wondered why so many UFOs headed for there everynight.

He admits to using time lapse but has an extensive discussion regarding jiggling somewhere on the site. He claims to have used a tripod. I am wondering if the blades of this external shutter didn't produce the effect.


Actually Pyrrho I was referring to this photo of Cornet behind his camera and the length of Cornet's fingers:
Yeah, he does have long fingers. Must be an alien!

To minimize vibrations, photographers used to literally "sandbag" their tripods. Even anchoring the tripod to the ground won't eliminate vibration entirely. I have no idea how his external three-blade shutter works, but yes, it could possible be a cause.

You'd think, though, that with all the equipment available to them, they'd have better photos to show. I'm disappointed.

[T'ai Chi]

gees, he didn't even notice the UFO? It is there, right on his camara!

;)

[SteveGrenard]

Grommitt:

Port wing - Red steady

Starboard wing - Green steady

Tail - white steady

Vertical stabilizer or belly - Red rotating beacon

Nose or wing leading edge - White landing light


Have you ever seen a situation where there were white steadies on the port and starboard wings as well as the nose and but the tail not clear from the ground. This would fit the layout of the triangular lights in the sky "UFO" sitings.

In fact on one glide path into Newark which is a couple of miles from me I have seen these triangular arrangements going in for a landing.

How about a white steady on the belly of the aircraft, looking to be geometrically midpoint between white steady wing tip lights?

[Grommitt]

No. I cannot recall ever seeing any non-standard light configuration.

The purpose for the green-red-white steady navigation lights is the same on aircraft as it is on watercraft. That is, so that the pilot can determine the dirction of travel of another aircraft to avoid a colission. If the pilot sees a green steady light and a white steady light, it indicates that the right wingtip and tail are in view. This indicates that the aircraft is traveling from left to right from your point of view.

Three steady white lights on wingtips and tail are in violation of FAA regulations.

You may have seen a large aircraft with three landing lights. One on each wing and one in nose.

[SteveGrenard]

Thanks. These planes were descending and pretty low and easily seen so it makes sense the steady whites of the nose and wing tips are landing lights...