Cattle Mutilations

[nightwind]

I had a recent encounter the other night with a friend in a store. I hadn't seen him in years, and always respected him for his intellect and level headiness. I congratulated him on recently landing a job with a large corporation and heading up one their computer divisions, etc.
From that point, on the conversation started getting strange. He claimed that while driving through New Mexico, he had ran off the road, and got his car stuck while traveling during the night. He indicated that he saw lights in the distance, and started towards them. He related having come to a fence that had some kind of electrodes sticking in the ground every few feet or so. He indicated that he continued to walk and came to a large field that had dead cows laying all over it, with holes cut in their sides.
He indicated that there was some kind of revolving light in the field, and that he could make out some figures a ways off. He indicated when he got close enough to the 3 figures, that 2 of them were humans, dressed in farmer like clothing, and the 3rd, now get this, was a very small grey skinned alien being! He indicated that they were assisting each other in cutting up the cows!
He indicated that he left, and in trying to go back to his car, he kept "rewinding" as he called it, and going back to the fence. He said that he would walk down the road, get to a particular sign, and then rewind back to the fence. He said he kept doing this, until a patrolman, picked him up and carried him to the next town.
Now being the skeptic, that I am you can kind of guess what was running through my mind at this point. I indicated to him, that possibly he had hit his head when he ran off of the road and had dreamed it. He indicated that he had checked himself into the hospital to get checked, and they told him he was ok, and that he did believe that it was real.
Well, anyway, he is going back that way, and is going to try and find the area again where this happened. He did indicate it was about 10 miles from an Air Force Base in New Mexico.
Anyway, I just told him, that this was indeed a strange story. I gave him my email address, and told him to keep me posted.
This guy is really an intelligent guy, and according to him, has now kind of become obsessed with investigating this kind of stuff, etc.
Anyway, I gave him my email, and told him to keep me updated.
I thought the folks in this forum, might find this story interesting. I will keep you posted.

[Rolfe]

These cattle mutilation events don't seem to be reported in Britain. However, I've seen quite a lot of photographs of the carcasses. I've also seen a lot of real carcasses which have been attacked by corbie crows while lying in the field. As far as I can see, the lesions look identical.

As for the rest of it - as you say, blows on the head can do very strange things.

Rolfe.

[SteveGrenard]

There are people who seriously investigate cattle mutilation. For starters, check out the papers at:

http://www.nidsci.org/articles/articles2.html

[thaiboxerken]

Have you told your friend that his story sounds loony? Think he'll consider telling it to a therapist?

[Yahweh]

I've searched all the major New Mexico newspapers (http://newslink.org/nmnews.html), and I cant find a single story with the keywords "cattle mutilation" in it.

(But it seems like Mad Cow Disease is no threat to New Mexico schools, so I guess thats good...)

[Trinity]

Is that old nonsense still going around. There was even an official investigation. The report is HERE (http://www.parascope.com/articles/0597/romindex.htm) .

These aliens must be very strange creatures. First they travel a long way through space. When they finally find an in habited planet they go around for decades and:

Abduct people and make funny games with them.

Kill cattle in the fields and cut their a**hole out.

Make strange patterns in grain fields.

Post here as Shemp.

They must be very very strange creatures. I do not think i want to meet any of them.

Trinity

edited to asterisk -- Pyrrho

[The Don]

I can state with complete certainty and withouit fear of contradiction that no farmer has ever, in the history of the world, done anything to their own livestock post-mortem to change the apparent cause of death.

For example, there were rumours circulating near where I grew up that certain unscrupulous farmers may have had a much higher rate of animal mortality due to lightning strikes than would be considered reasonable. None of them was ever successfully prosecuted for interfering with the corpse in such a way as to give the impession that an animal had been struck by lightning (and that the value of the animal could be recovered via insurance) rather than the animal just keeling over and dying.

These investigations were pursued vigourously (by the National Farmers' Union) and therefore their failure to throw up any evidence is clear proof that no such shennanigans were under wasy.

[Jon_in_london]

Jimson Weed?

[Hypocolius]

That's a lot of indicating!

[Powa]

Originally posted by Jon_in_london
Jimson Weed? No, thanks. :D

[Vitnir]

Another thing that hardly gets mentioned in cattle/horse mutilations. What would be the most likely culprit, aliens or nutcases enjoying killing animals in cruel ways.

[Dragonrock]

Originally posted by Vitnir
Another thing that hardly gets mentioned in cattle/horse mutilations. What would be the most likely culprit, aliens or nutcases enjoying killing animals in cruel ways.

NO!! It MUST be aliens, no human would stack books this way!

[Correa Neto]

Corpses of cattle muitlated by aliens, of animals attacked by chupacabras, mysterious corpses of unknown animals, mysterious animals... What do they have in common?

- They were seen or "studied" by people that never spent more then a weekend away from the cities...
- They were seen or "studied" by people who are getting (or trying to get) some money and/or attention...
- They were seen or "studied" by people who desperately want to belive in anything that could make their lives a bit less dull and purposeless...
- They are shown by (usually sensationalist media) for a while as non-explained stuff. And they are forgotten on a few days. And if someones comes up with a rational plausible explanation, he/she will get less then a tenth of the space, if any space at all (usually with the "specialist", alleged witness or someone else that has nothing to do with the story

[Psi Baba]

Originally posted by Hypocolius
That's a lot of indicating!
I was thinking the same thing. Apparently this guy does not communicate verbally. I suspect that nightwind's friend is either mute or an alien. Of course, I'm leaning toward alien.

[nightwind]

I haven't heard back from him yet. I hope he wasn't abducted!

[NullPointerException]

Somewhere an alien is reading these boards while he enjoys a nice angus burger and laughing because they found out its easier to get away with it if they don't kill the witness!

[Theodore Kurita]

I have actually seen one of our cattle mutilated.

There were some *cough* satanists *cough* in our area at the time holding a convention up off at Unity Temple (A new agey church).

M'eh!

Seen worse.

Especially when the crows get to cow carcasses.


Most "Mutilations" are aused by the fact that the cow died and crows/vultures have pecked at the carcass.

There are some though that are done by Satanic freaks in the area though.

[epepke]

I've always wondered how people fit the aliens/cattle mutilation thing into any remotely sensible system of thought. Is there supposed to be, like, a really expensive restaurant around Barnard's Star where Genuine Earth-Grown Cow Eyeballs goes for 85 quatloos a pop? If so, maybe we could pay for the space program by just selling it to them. Forget the international space station; what we need is a big, orbiting billboard saying Earth: Home of the Galaxy-Famous Cow Anus.

[Rolfe]

Originally posted by Theodore Kurita
Especially when the crows get to cow carcasses.

Most "Mutilations" are aused by the fact that the cow died and crows/vultures have pecked at the carcass.Exactly. Seconded, thirded and fourthed.

I read some of that stuff in a woo-woo magazine while waiting for the shop to sort out the bill for my car repair. They kept going on about how there was no natural explanation for the patterns of damage. And every picture looked exactly like a carcass got at by crows. Not that the word "crow" actually got a mention, though.

Rolfe.

[neutrino_cannon]

I think mister Kurita has got it. Cattle mutilations are caused, mostly, when dead cattle dry out a bit and became hard, and only the softest, thinest skin can be penetrateed by insects and other scavangers.

Unless it was alien scavangers.

[Garrette]

85 quatloos is a bit steep. You can get 'em for 70 at a little diner near Sirius, and that includes a wimplik of snick.

[MRC_Hans]

It gets even sillier than that. I took part in a cattle mutilation depabe on another BB a year or two ago; some of these people claim that the government is involved (yeah), and mysterious agents in black apache helocopters fly out at night and mutilate hapless farmer's cattle!

Of course, THAT makes a lot of sense: Evil government needs various parts of dead cows, for some vile secret purposes (yes, trades with aliens were hinted at). What easier and safer way to get such parts could there be than to train and equip a secret corps of agents with black helicopters? Obviously this is the only way to get such articles as cow's udders, anuses, eyes, and ears?:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: :nope:

Hans

[Paul C. Anagnostopoulos]

The purpose of the MIBs performing cattle mutilations is not to obtain cow parts. It's to test the psychological reactions of the populace. This is also why they create crop circles.

Why do they want to understand people's reactions? Just in case aliens ever come and do real cattle mutilations and crop circles.

Sheesh, people, get with the program.

~~ Paul

[sophia8]

Originally posted by Theodore Kurita
There were some *cough* satanists *cough* in our area at the time holding a convention up off at Unity Temple (A new agey church).
You mean this Unity Temple? (http://unitytemple.org/)
What made you think that the "mutilations" had anything to do with the Temple?
And what made you think that the people meeting there were any sort of Satan-worshippers?
And what makes you think that Satan-worshippers mutilate cattle?

[plindboe]

nightwind, tell your friend he probably had a hallucination. Many hallucinations occur after people have been driving for hours in the middle of the night and therefore have been sensory deprived. Notice how many of these abduction stories start exactly that same way. He doesn't need to be mentally ill at all, or hit his head, such hallucinations can happen to everyone under the right conditions. I hope you will be able to convince your friend of this most logical conclusion, and the fact that he experienced this "rewinding" should further point to it occuring in his own mind only.

If you try and google a little about such cases, you can perhaps find some good scientific articles about such hallucinations to show to your friend.

[epepke]

Originally posted by Garrette
85 quatloos is a bit steep. You can get 'em for 70 at a little diner near Sirius, and that includes a wimplik of snick.

Yeah, but if you really want to impress a date, you need to go to a place with Wub fur menus and tentacle bowls and a tight little combo playing Fob.

[Theodore Kurita]

Originally posted by sophia8

You mean this Unity Temple? (http://unitytemple.org/)
What made you think that the "mutilations" had anything to do with the Temple?
And what made you think that the people meeting there were any sort of Satan-worshippers?
And what makes you think that Satan-worshippers mutilate cattle?


No, not that Unity Temple. That is the Unitarian temple, quite different actually.

The one I am talking about is a new agey chuch kind of thing.

You can see there website here:

http://www.unityleessummit.org/

Like I said, a bunch of new age woowoo idiots that live literally two miles from my house. :(