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Jon_in_london
19th January 2004, 12:33 AM
Heres the latest installment of beaurocratic interfering EU idiocy:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3408123.stm

Seems the gravy-train pilots in Brussels are thinking of intrtoducing an EU wide labelling scheme, possibly making it compulsory for goods to carry a "Made in the EU" label.

Lookee!

"Among the advantages we see are... promoting a mark of distinction, improving the visibility of the European Union, giving adequate information to consumers and fighting consumer deception.

"On the minus side there could be questions of the additional costs for the industry."


Some things to consider here:
1, Do not these idiots have better things to do with my tax money?
2, Many brands trade on their country of origin eg Italian shoes, British Wedgewood china, German cars etc....
3, Arent there more important things to be sorting out?
4, Instead of antagonising everyone by interfering unnecesarily, why not just try and run the whole ship smoothly?
5, Maybe try stamping out corruption in the EU first?

Also consider that the EU has recently introduced the Euro (not working too well), Planning for massive expansion eastwards (those countrys Chirac told had "missed a great opportunity to shut up), Is trying to introduce a new constitution that nobody can agree on and is trying to get a pan-EU defence force together.

Does the EU have an unavoidable trajectory that prevents it from sitting still for a little while?

ZeeGerman
19th January 2004, 01:57 AM
Originally posted by Jon_in_london
Heres the latest installment of beaurocratic interfering EU idiocy:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/3408123.stm

Seems the gravy-train pilots in Brussels are thinking of intrtoducing an EU wide labelling scheme, possibly making it compulsory for goods to carry a "Made in the EU" label.

Lookee!


Some things to consider here:
1, Do not these idiots have better things to do with my tax money?
2, Many brands trade on their country of origin eg Italian shoes, British Wedgewood china, German cars etc....
3, Arent there more important things to be sorting out?
4, Instead of antagonising everyone by interfering unnecesarily, why not just try and run the whole ship smoothly?
5, Maybe try stamping out corruption in the EU first?

Also consider that the EU has recently introduced the Euro (not working too well), Planning for massive expansion eastwards (those countrys Chirac told had "missed a great opportunity to shut up), Is trying to introduce a new constitution that nobody can agree on and is trying to get a pan-EU defence force together.

Does the EU have an unavoidable trajectory that prevents it from sitting still for a little while?

German manufacturers aren't pleased at all with the idea, since "Made in Germany" has always been a major selling factor for our products.

Zee

Jon_in_london
19th January 2004, 02:00 AM
Originally posted by ZeeGerman


German manufacturers aren't pleased at all with the idea, since "Made in Germany" has always been a major selling factor for our products.

Zee

Indeed, likewise here (unless it refers to something to do with railways).

Why cant the EU just do nothing for a little while? Its like a kid with attention deficit with hyperactivity disorder that had far too much coffee.

Flo
19th January 2004, 02:01 AM
- Is the British Sausage in danger again ?

- Do you plan to run for prime minister office ?
;)

Jon_in_london
19th January 2004, 02:04 AM
Originally posted by Flo
- Is the British Sausage in danger again ?

- Do you plan to run for prime minister office ?
;)

My sausage is fine Flo, thanks! (just a bit small, more of a chipolata really).

Im much too unfit to be an office runner.

aerocontrols
19th January 2004, 08:14 AM
Europe has bigger problems (http://www.time.com/time/europe/magazine/printout/0,13155,901040119-574849,00.html) than that.

When Valerio Dorrello looks around his lab, he sees a miniature European Union. As the afternoon sun streams in, the Italian postdoctoral fellow stands at his sink, changing solutions for one of his experiments. A Spanish colleague, Virginia Amador, pours a gel between glass plates, while a German researcher named Tarig Bashir works on a computer nearby. Their primary investigator, Michele Pagano, is Italian. Two other postdocs are Italian, too, while two more are French. There's such a jumble of languages in the group, which is doing cancer research, that its members have talked about putting up a keyword chart by the telephone with basic phrases in all their languages, "so anyone can say, 'He's not here' in Italian if my mom calls," says Dorrello, punctuating his Neapolitan-accented staccato with laughs. "We're going to make it with flags and everything."

What's not so funny for European policymakers is that this lab isn't in Brussels or Paris or any other E.U. capital. It's at the New York University (N.Y.U.) School of Medicine. All over the U.S., such research facilities are teeming with bright, young Europeans, lured by America's generous funding, better facilities and meritocratic culture. "In Italy," says Dorrello, "I'd be earning maybe €900 a month." At N.Y.U., he gets nearly three times that. "The U.S. is a place where you can do very good science, and if you're a scientist, you try to go to the best place," says Pagano, who likens researcher migration to football transfers. "In soccer, if you're great, another team can buy you." Science is the same, and the big buyer is the U.S.: in 2000, the U.S. spent €287 billion on research and development, €121 billion more than the E.U. No wonder the U.S. has 78% more high-tech patents per capita than Europe, which is especially weak in the IT and biotech sectors.

Three years ago, E.U. leaders vowed to make the union "the most competitive and dynamic knowledge-based economy in the world" by 2010. But one of the most worrying signs of their failure is the continued drain of Europe's best and brightest scientific brains, who finish their degrees and pursue careers in the U.S. Some 400,000 European science and technology graduates now live in the U.S. and thousands more leave each year. A survey released in November by the European Commission found that only 13% of European science professionals working abroad currently intend to return home.

To be fair, this has been a problem since before the EU existed, but do you think the EU is going to make the problem better, or worse?

MattJ

Ed
19th January 2004, 08:32 AM
Originally posted by Jon_in_london


Indeed, likewise here (unless it refers to something to do with railways).

Why cant the EU just do nothing for a little while? Its like a kid with attention deficit with hyperactivity disorder that had far too much coffee.

It's like a bunch of fat bloated beurocrats looking at unlimited funds to spend.

Matabiri
19th January 2004, 08:38 AM
Originally posted by Jon_in_london
Why cant the EU just do nothing for a little while? Its like a kid with attention deficit with hyperactivity disorder that had far too much coffee.

Ah, the manager's dilemma. Even if everything works, you can't just do nothing because people will wonder why you're there and maybe make you redundant. So you have to "manage", even if it makes things less efficient, to justify your existence.

Originally posted by Ed
It's like a bunch of fat bloated beurocrats looking at unlimited funds to spend.

Unlimited funds of someone else's money.