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BCR
15th March 2010, 12:33 PM
As many on JREF are aware, there was a dominate theory at one point that AAL77 was landed at some point after being lost by ZID radar around 12:57 and its reappearance over Charleston, WV at around 9:05. I will be doing another field trip to tie up some loose ends next month, starting at the Tri-State Airport (http://www.airnav.com/airport/KHTS) (there was some speculation that it did an emergency landing there) in Huntington, WV on the 12th of April, followed by Yeager AP in Charleston on the 13th.
If you guys are aware of any other 'landing' or 'take-off' scenarios in the area, let me know. I've got to be in Arlington the evening of the 13th, but I've got enough time to make a few additional stops along the way if there are any other speculative nonsense that needs to be examined or verified.
By the way, so far Huntington (airport or people living in the area) does not know anything about a 757 making an 'emergency' landing on 9/11 around 9:00 am.
beachnut
15th March 2010, 12:53 PM
As many on JREF are aware, there was a dominate theory at one point that AAL77 was landed at some point after being lost by ZID radar around 12:57 and its reappearance over Charleston, WV at around 9:05. I will be doing another field trip to tie up some loose ends next month, starting at the Tri-State Airport (http://www.airnav.com/airport/KHTS) (there was some speculation that it did an emergency landing there) in Huntington, WV on the 12th of April, followed by Yeager AP in Charleston on the 13th.
If you guys are aware of any other 'landing' or 'take-off' scenarios in the area, let me know. I've got to be in Arlington the evening of the 13th, but I've got enough time to make a few additional stops along the way if there are any other speculative nonsense that needs to be examined or verified.
By the way, so far Huntington (airport or people living in the area) does not know anything about a 757 making an 'emergency' landing on 9/11 around 9:00 am.
Who started those delusions? Sporty landing, and takeoff. RADAR never got close to Tri-State.
Sword_Of_Truth
15th March 2010, 12:56 PM
The "Bumble Planes" theory was espoused in the earliest version of "Loose Change" I believe.
Mangoose
15th March 2010, 01:26 PM
The pre-LC genesis of the idea (from April 2002):
http://www.serendipity.li/wot/plissken.htm (http://www.serendipity.li/wot/plissken.htm)
BCR
15th March 2010, 10:16 PM
You guys are not being much help. Someone give me a clue where to look for the secret NWO/CIA landing strip up in them thar hills.
Hokulele
15th March 2010, 10:22 PM
It's in the underground lair built in the crater of an extinct volcano.
Sheesh, don't you ever watch James Bond films?
cyclonic
15th March 2010, 11:07 PM
You guys are not being much help. Someone give me a clue where to look for the secret NWO/CIA landing strip up in them thar hills.
It's one mile NNE from the grey aliens artificial insemination bigfoot farm.
just look for the big syringe.
tsig
16th March 2010, 07:21 AM
You guys are not being much help. Someone give me a clue where to look for the secret NWO/CIA landing strip up in them thar hills.
They disguise them as coal mines they even hire the local yokels to help and those dupes really think they're mining coal but we know what's really going on, right.:eye-poppi
BCR
16th March 2010, 07:29 AM
:rolleyes: You guys really aren't helping ya know. I need the coordinates of the darn thing. If I go wandering around them thar hills aimlessly, either the moonshiners or the pot farmers are going to mistake me for a revenue'r. Surely this is something the board CT folks could give me some guidance on.
http://zoesflight.com/files/airports.jpg
Maybe the GE image will help. ATC Chuck Thomas considered Tri-State as a possible emergency landing site since the 'coast track' pointed in that general area. At the time, they were still thinking electrical/mechanical problems or a crash since they had not learned of the WTC attacks by then (the controller Thomas relieved for a break heard about it first on CNN playing in the break room). Also, the rumor of smoke in the Charleston, WV area puts Yeager in play.
I just don't see many other possibilities in the area for landing a 757 left to check out, but I'll defer to more imaginative minds. My motel in the area is pegged (got one right under the flight path), so as you can see I pretty much will be positioned to check out any leads you guys can come up with.
beachnut
16th March 2010, 09:06 AM
77, oops I was thinking 93.
The landing would take time. Where is the time warp?
ElMondoHummus
16th March 2010, 10:14 AM
Sorry, John, the only "landing" myth I'm familiar with is UA93 at Cleveland, not AA77 somewhere else. I wish I could help, but you obviously are more familiar with the claim than I am.
BCR
16th March 2010, 11:32 AM
Sorry, John, the only "landing" myth I'm familiar with is UA93 at Cleveland, not AA77 somewhere else. I wish I could help, but you obviously are more familiar with the claim than I am.
Not really. When I started looking into AAL77 years ago, the notion was that when it went off radar during its turn, the plane was landed and either a drone, global hawk, A3 or something else replaced it immediately after the turn.
I'm just trying to be objective and examine this as a possibility. I mean Robin Hordon (http://fv911truth.org/robin/) just did an affidavit (http://fv911truth.org/robin/affidavit.html) for the Court asserting pretty much this very thing.
AA77 was lost to positive radar contact in eastern Ohio and nobody, at any facility, in any location, at any time during the events of 9/11/2001 or thereafter, has ever re-radar identified any target flying anywhere as being AA77. AA77 became lost to positive radar contact and remains so today.
The high speed eastbound primary radar target eventually seen by Danielle O’Brien at Dulles Tower-Potomac Approach, and which went on towards WDC, and then which made a large right handed turn into or over the Pentagon, has only been PRESUMED to be AA77..
BigAl
16th March 2010, 04:38 PM
Not really. When I started looking into AAL77 years ago, the notion was that when it went off radar during its turn, the plane was landed and either a drone, global hawk, A3 or something else replaced it immediately after the turn.
I'm just trying to be objective and examine this as a possibility.
How is it a possibility given that body parts identifying all the passengers was found inside the Pentagon alongside essentially the entire body of the 757 that was Flight 77?
BCR
16th March 2010, 05:35 PM
Well, BigAl, I guess a judge agrees with you. Robin Hordon's affidavit seems to have resulted in Gallops case being thrown out :)
Gallop's Court case in toilet (http://forums.randi.org/showthread.php?t=170182) - JREF
dropzone
16th March 2010, 06:41 PM
Welcome to the bright side, BCR.
gumboot
17th March 2010, 12:14 AM
In all seriousness, why would you waste your time investigating claims this absurd? You yourself know that AA77 was recorded on radar for the entirety of its flight. Did FAA primary radar records indicate a second contact "replacing" AA77 at any point? No. No need for a field trip.
BCR
17th March 2010, 03:55 AM
In all seriousness, why would you waste your time investigating claims this absurd? You yourself know that AA77 was recorded on radar for the entirety of its flight. Did FAA primary radar records indicate a second contact "replacing" AA77 at any point? No. No need for a field trip.
Thanks for the words of encouragement. Blame it on my old history professor Dr. Dubay. The man refused to have a textbook for his class and insisted that his students track down all available primary historical sources when researching a subject. Man I loved his classes....
zorro99
19th March 2010, 05:06 AM
Here's what really happened to Flt 77 according to lost, rare video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qPapNyvg6Wg&NR=1
BCR
10th April 2010, 10:16 PM
Headed out Monday morning on my little field trip. The 12th I will visit Tri-State airport and then Yeager on the 13th. Afterwards I'll head on to Arlington. I'll be at the Arlington Public Library at 1:00 pm on the 14th (Virginia Room). So if anyone has any special requests, let me know. However, I will not be bugging any of the eyewitnesses again. They have been harassed enough.
LashL
10th April 2010, 10:22 PM
All the best, BCR. Keep us posted.
Cheers,
Lash
BCR
15th April 2010, 06:20 AM
Had lunch yesterday at the Dama Deli and Restaurant (between A-One Auto and Navy Annex). It is an Ethiopian ethnic hang-out and a favorite of the local immigrant taxi drivers. It just brings to mind why the CIT boys did not spend some time talking with them? Maybe because they would confirm Ed and Shinki's assertion that a 'bent' antenna was replaced on the VDOT/VSP tower?
Not sure what I had for lunch. I asked the waitress for a fork and she looked at me as if I was crazy. Whatever it was, it was good :)
My Lunch (http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?pid=3724331&id=551607366)
uk_dave
15th April 2010, 06:48 AM
Not sure what I had for lunch. I asked the waitress for a fork and she looked at me as if I was crazy. Whatever it was, it was good :)
My Lunch (http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?pid=3724331&id=551607366)
Maybe she mis-heard you?
BCR
18th April 2010, 01:09 AM
Maybe she mis-heard you?
No, she patiently showed me how to use the soft bread that came with the meal. It seems that the appropriate method is to tear off a piece of bread and use it to pick up the food. I also visited the 'terror mosque' frequented by the AAL77 hijackers. Although on the corner of Row and Leesburg Pike, it is surrounded by dense vegetation which completely conceals it with the exception of the drive entrance.
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Dwb9T8FT5XM
lapman
18th May 2010, 02:16 PM
No, she patiently showed me how to use the soft bread that came with the meal. It seems that the appropriate method is to tear off a piece of bread and use it to pick up the food. I also visited the 'terror mosque' frequented by the AAL77 hijackers. Although on the corner of Row and Leesburg Pike, it is surrounded by dense vegetation which completely conceals it with the exception of the drive entrance.
ZYPaRFyumww
Dwb9T8FT5XM
Sorry to dig up this thread and the derail, but I am trying to find the pic that shows the tail strike on the Pentagon. The search function really doesn't work all that well.
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